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post #1 of 31
11/9/08 at 5:15pm
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to teach a lesson? So I'm driving and there's a dead deer on the side of the road. I say to my 4yo DS, "That deer didn't look both ways before crossing the street." He says, "Yeah, the car didn't see him." And we talked a bit about being careful and watching for danger.

Good choice? Bad choice?






Absolutely hilarious?
post #2 of 31
11/9/08 at 5:19pm
Wrong on so many levels. I think I've done the same though. ....can't get a better visual than that, can you?
post #3 of 31
11/9/08 at 5:25pm
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Originally Posted by chaoticzenmom View Post
Wrong on so many levels.
Dang it! :
post #4 of 31
11/9/08 at 5:32pm


OMG my stbx has said the same thing to my almost six year old.

I'd like to say - absolutely hilarious (and sooo inappropriate - which is what makes it even funnier...)
post #5 of 31
11/9/08 at 5:37pm
my daughter made that observation to us about a dead 'possum....so I wouldn't be too worried about it.
post #6 of 31
11/9/08 at 5:39pm
i would probably do the same with my dd. just maybe better to avoid if you have a very sensitive dc.
post #7 of 31
11/9/08 at 5:53pm
I'm just as bad... Dh, dd and I where driving somewhere (can't remember where) and DD was about 5, being a brat and throwing things around the car after being asked not to, yada yada yada. Suddely DD piped up "Hey there's a car in that ditch!" so I told her "That's what happens when you throw things in the car. THe driver gets distracted and goes off the road."

: at least she stopped throwing things after that.
post #8 of 31
11/9/08 at 6:00pm
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Originally Posted by kirei View Post
i would probably do the same with my dd. just maybe better to avoid if you have a very sensitive dc.
This.
post #9 of 31
11/9/08 at 6:03pm
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post #10 of 31
11/9/08 at 6:11pm
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Originally Posted by QueenOfThePride View Post
to teach a lesson? So I'm driving and there's a dead deer on the side of the road. I say to my 4yo DS, "That deer didn't look both ways before crossing the street." He says, "Yeah, the car didn't see him." And we talked a bit about being careful and watching for danger.

Good choice? Bad choice?






Absolutely hilarious?
I did the similar thing with a squirrel a month ago. We were walking down the sidewalk & saw a dead squirrel in the street. We talked about what happened - that the squirrel didn't look when crossing the road, and the car didn't see him because he's small. Seemed applicable to me. We did have a memorial for the squirrel once we got home - DD drew a picture of the squirrel in chalk on the sidewalk, and her "prayer" was, "Don't go in the street squirrel".
post #11 of 31
11/9/08 at 6:12pm
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Originally Posted by kirei View Post
i would probably do the same with my dd. just maybe better to avoid if you have a very sensitive dc.
Yeah, mine would have nightmares and cry for months at that. But they are unusually sensitive.

Not sure that it makes any real difference to how kids react though when in a situation. There's a world of difference between knowing how to cross a road, and actually doing it. There is a huge developmental factor in play.

Oh grief, I'm going to cry myself about the deer now...........
post #12 of 31
11/9/08 at 6:19pm
I thought this was going to be about bringing roadkill home to dissect for a biology lesson, which sounds like a fine idea to me. (Though technically illegal in many cases.)
post #13 of 31
11/9/08 at 6:45pm
My 2 kids run this "lesson" on each other when they see roadkill!!! I have just added that there are many people driving around the roads where we live who do not know the area and go way too fast, thus causing accidents. Though it's not tremendously frequent, we sometimes see their smashed-up or flipped over cars in the ditches or the police taking info from them.

As far as development goes, I see that as a step beyond merely "realizing" that one needs to look both ways before crossing towards being constantly aware of the need to act on the knowledge. A skill they both still need to hone.
post #14 of 31
11/9/08 at 6:55pm
was curious about the thread title too......

I don't see anything wrong with using roadkill as a lesson in safety. YOU didn't hit the poor thing to teach the lesson, now that would be wrong.
post #15 of 31
11/9/08 at 7:00pm
I think it's appropriate. My boss told me his mom did that to him. "See what happens when a car (that's big) runs over a frog (that's little)? And you're kinda little..."
post #16 of 31
11/9/08 at 7:07pm
it could be wrong, I would never say that to a kid that wasn't mine. My kids however,
post #17 of 31
11/9/08 at 8:03pm
As long as it isn't you that hits the deer then takes it home to cook it, that's fine. It's not like the taxpayers money is going on Road Safety for Wild Animals or anything along those lines, kwim?
When DS1 was about 3 he went through a phase of sheer insanity around roads, public places, anything. In the end I bought a cheap frozen leg of lamb, defrosted it, put it in the middle of the road, strapped him into his car seat and then drove around and drove over it at 20 miles an hour. He then got to look at the kind of damage that a car can do to bones- you know, like people have. He got MUCH better about road safety after that.
Why is dissecting road kill illegal, btw? Is it illegal to eat it over there???
post #18 of 31
11/9/08 at 8:16pm
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As long as it isn't you that hits the deer then takes it home to cook it, that's fine. It's not like the taxpayers money is going on Road Safety for Wild Animals or anything along those lines, kwim?
When DS1 was about 3 he went through a phase of sheer insanity around roads, public places, anything. In the end I bought a cheap frozen leg of lamb, defrosted it, put it in the middle of the road, strapped him into his car seat and then drove around and drove over it at 20 miles an hour. He then got to look at the kind of damage that a car can do to bones- you know, like people have. He got MUCH better about road safety after that.
Why is dissecting road kill illegal, btw? Is it illegal to eat it over there???
Not that I know of. When we lived in Maine, we hit 4 deer over our time there. Two out of the 4 times, folks approached us asking if they could have the deer. One of the times, police were on the scene, and just asked the folks to sign something (who knows what).
post #19 of 31
11/9/08 at 8:23pm
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Why is dissecting road kill illegal, btw? Is it illegal to eat it over there???
It depends on the species, and on state laws, but generally you're only allowed to possess a dead animal if you have a hunting license (and that animal is in season) or some other type of permit. You can't just go out and kill something like a fox or a hawk any time you want to, and making it illegal even to possess the body of a protected species makes the laws easier to enforce because a person doesn't have to be caught actually in the act of killing the animal. Of course, the intent of the laws is just to prevent people from unauthorized killing, so if you do happen to find something dead, IMO there's nothing unethical about going ahead and using the body any way you want.
post #20 of 31
11/9/08 at 8:42pm
Not what I was expecting from the thread title! LOL!

I never think about it from a safety lesson perspective, but a (someday, I have a 25 mo) lesson on the ways humans have encroached on the wildlife in the area.
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