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post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
For those of you with kids that are beyond the teen years, or even just the older teens and beyond--I'd love to have a tribe to discuss extended parenting to this group. Some kids are slow to mature and can create quite a stressful environment in the home, some leave and return, some of us have sibling issues with those young adults. I for one would like a mothering board place to vent, discuss and get ideas to help with this age group. My kids are 21, 19 and 16, so most of what is discussed on the teen board doesn't quite hit my household. Just because they go off to college doesn't mean we as parents are off the hook IMO the late teen and early 20's have been much harder then the challenge faced as a parent of a toddler--at least its felt differently! Anyone out there share this feeling? Little kids, little problems, big kid big problems--isn't that how the saying goes

Thanks
post #2 of 17
i'm here and in a very poignant place. my older kids are in and out of the house and i have a new baby. dd's partner also lived with us for about a year. i don't know if he is gone for good or not, but i do know that he has a lot of problems and that i am grateful to him for helping my family weather some serious storms.

i have not been a perfect parent by any means, but i love my children very much and want to help the older kids navigate young adulthood and i also want to understand and avoid repeating my mistakes with the baby.

i have not seen dd and her partner since halloween and don't really know what is going on with them. she attends community college and works. ds attends a public high school and claims that he lives with me, but actually only sleeps here 1-2 nights a week at best. The police did not enforce my custody order when he ran away from home to live with my ex, who is not a nice man.

Only another parent of adult children can understand why i don't just "get over it". :

Thank you for starting this tribe.
post #3 of 17
Moving to the Parenting forum, since it's still a parenting issue, just a different stage.
post #4 of 17
I am bumping this thread. I am not a mom of adult children, but I was a troubled young adult. I gave my parents heart ache. It is a difficult time.

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post #5 of 17
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I am bumping this thread. I am not a mom of adult children, but I was a troubled young adult. I gave my parents heart ache. It is a difficult time.

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I have to ditto this. I'm just starting a family... but I know I have given my parents hell, and I know my Mom for sure would have likely loved to have some support and still would in parenting us adult kids (I have two sisters).

I was thinking about this last night actually... My Mom was my rock through my divorce... I had to move home and I left with nothing, they were fully supporting me again at 25 years old. I was humiliated and depressed and my Mother spent some nights holding me while I cried.

Through my Mom and my very small experiences... I know parenting will never be over and I dream of the days when my daughters grow old and still need me in their adult years and I hope I can be as wonderful and supportive as my Mother has been to me.
post #6 of 17
I'm bumping this because dd will be 20 in a few days and I see that I'm not the only one on the teen forum stretching the definition of "teen" a bit.

I thought she and I were doing so well until I came home to a nastygram last night. I know she doesn't have a job or money and I don't want her living on the streets or selling drugs or worse, but I just want her gone!

I had my kids right out of college and other than teaching myself guitar and supporting my first husband and his other wife for awhile and travelling around the country, I haven't really done anything else with my life than swim upstream trying to parent dd and 17yods1. They so don't get it or me or anything I care about.

dd used to be the one thing I could be proud of. Now I just want her to go away like everything else that hurts.

I so don't want to scare the young mamas who are my extended family of choice right now but I need to connect with other womyn my age who know that extended nursing is not how they suck the life out of us.

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and respect each other when the world tells us it doesn't need us any more and we have no value.

I value you. I need your courage right now.
post #7 of 17
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Originally Posted by birthpartner View Post
IMO the late teen and early 20's have been much harder then the challenge faced as a parent of a toddler--at least its felt differently! Anyone out there share this feeling? Little kids, little problems, big kid big problems--isn't that how the saying goes

Thanks
I agree.
Hugs to you, spider! I have had to tell my oldest to move out, and I think it was the best thing for both of us and the rest of the family. I know it's really hard and it really hurts to be where you are right now.

My two big kids are 25 and 20 years old. They have both moved out, but that doesn't mean I'm not their mother anymore. They both study and have jobs, still I find there are new parenting challenges all the time.

My parents haven't been good parenting models throughout the teenage years and early twenties of me and my sisters, and I have often wished I knew someone with children the same age as mine.
post #8 of 17
I am parenting on so many different levels these days that I confuse myself! ElderSon is 27, and I have a rocky but intensely loving relationship with him. The Dumplings are 12 & 13 (YoungSon and BigGirl), and ElderSon wants to tell me how to parent them. Foster Dumpling (LittleGirl) is 8, and I parent her entirely differently from the others, due to her history of extreme neglect and abuse. I will be adopting her, and probably her 2 - 5 YO sisters, who were if anything, more damaged by their past. I had the grandbabies, aged 6 months and just over 2 years now, for about 3 months. Oh, and YoungSon has autism and dyslexia, and I homeschool him and BigGirl. And I am a foster home for medically fragile infants. And I care for my mother, who turned 90 this week.

I would welcome a place where folks understand about parenting adult children.

I look at the evolution of the parenting relationship like this:

Pregnancy is, or at least could be nearly 100% physical. We may feel a spiritual connection to our unborn children, but that is almost optional. At birth, our interactions begin to need a component of feelings: as we gaze lovingly into Baby's eyes, as Baby's eyes light up at mama's smile. But still, the interactions are mainly physical - food, warmth, holding, etc. As the baby grows, we begin to have a little space - the toddler wanders off, but checks back in often, and still is totally dependent and vulnerable. The growing child explores farther afield, and the teen even more so. But while we are lessening our physical relationship, the intellectual and emotional fronts are strengthening. We carry on abstract ethical discussions, and they come to us for a new kind of help: advice on how to solve their own problems, rather than,"Mama, make it all better". In our culture, they are still dependent, but in reality, teens could be "productive adults", parents, and independent.

There is nothing I can do to care for ElderSon - he meets his own physical needs. But he calls me for advice and support, and asked me to take his babies when his wife was unable to care for them. Our relationship has come full-circle - from physical, gradually transitioning to purely emotional, and starting again with physical with the next generation. I never felt so much a part of the Circle of Life, as when I held my tiny grandson, and gazed into his eyes, with the same love I had for his Dad. And he returned my gaze with love.
post #9 of 17
Can I join? My girls are 31, 26.5 and 24.5. My parenting days with them is long over. Our relationships are more as different generation friends/mentor/advice giver/seeker than parent/child.
post #10 of 17
Thank you.

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Chris, you are EXACTLY who I need to talk to right now. The Universe was looking out for me when it brought you to MDC. Mamarhu, I have missed you so much! I'm mostly on the baby boards now so we don't bump into each other as much, but I always considered you a mentor and an inspiration when i was on the teen boards and I think of you and ElderSon often as I work through my own issues with ds1, who i find myself refering to as....ElderSon....

dd and I have been civil and I am calming down about the nastygram, but I need her out of my house. She has agreed to get on the Greyhound in a couple of months if she can't find work here and if she hates Humboldt so much then maybe she'll be happier somewhere else.

No sign of CPS so I guess she was just making empty threats. She is not ds2's father or my romatic/life partner.. I would give notice to any 20 year old roommate who did not respect my parenting .

I love her. I will mss her. I will be happy when she comes back for a visit. I still wish I could live in an intergenerational household someday.
post #11 of 17
I don't know how much help I can be. My most dificult child, Erica, was dificult as a child, not as an adult. But then she wasn't on meds growing up and she is now. Better living through chemisty as she says.
post #12 of 17
How great to see this thread. My mother sure could have used it during my hell years.

to all of you great mamas.

mamrhu-holy hanna you sound like a busy lady.
post #13 of 17
Can I join? I have a long convoluted story that I'm not going to take up board space with. But I've got an 18yoDD who is now a mom herself and is out of the house, across the country actually. My others are 15, almost 8, and 1yr so we're spread out.

But it'd be nice to talk to mamas that have kiddos who have flown the nest already. It's hard!!!!
post #14 of 17
Well, both of mine left prematurely even though they come back periodically and i don't have to know the whole story to tell you that`yes, it is this hard, society is this cruel, support is this hard to find.

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my longstanding joke is that i expected to be writing my memoirs by now and having people ask me how i did it all. instead i'm emptying bedpans for minimum wage and listening to my parents ask me if i'm properly ashamed of myself yet and my dd call me "gullible" and blame me for everything i did not have the power to protect her from.

Feminism gave me some comfort, because at least i knew i wasn't alone, but the fact that i have a one year old who was definitely not an accident says more than my words ever can.

We would not be here at mdc if we did not value motherhood in a society that does not value mothers. The next step in the journey is the legacy that will live after our bodies return to the earth. My older children will remember me as somebody weak and foolish and there isn't much I can do about that. The young mothers I have mentored who call me "Sage Femme" even though i am only 44 will not even recognize me from the obituary they will write.

Something of me will remain in my older children's subconscious and I know, intellectually, that as adult children of my alcoholic and cocaine-addicted ex-husband, they are far better off than they would have been if I had given up on them just because they don't like me.

Something of me will remain in the young mamas I mentor and in their children and after all, what's a life? What could I have done with it that would have given me more pleasure than my one year old's smile or the knowledge that he has benefited from the knowledge i gained from the mistakes I have made and the tears I have cried?

I know a little of your story,. Theoretica. Enough that I just want to hold you while you cry, because not being allowed to cry was one of the hardest parts for me.
post #15 of 17
, mamas. Thank you for this thread.


My oldest child is 14 and very independent. I'm already blown away by how early the "leaving of the nest" begins. When I started out on my mothering journey, it seemed so black and white. Like, I'll have 18 years of solid influence on her life and then she'll go "out there". But the truth that I'm finding is that she's already got one foot out the door and is much more ready than I am to let her go. Plus, she has already begun offering her critical feedback that leaves me speechless. I am thankful to have a process of self-inquiry with which to hold onto (or come back to) my sanity after these times.

I can only imagine how much more of this will continue before she comes back to wanting intimacy with me again. I know that, for me, it was not until I was 30 that I wanted to be close to my mother again . . .



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. . . and my dd call me "gullible" and blame me for everything i did not have the power to protect her from.
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My older children will remember me as somebody weak and foolish and there isn't much I can do about that.

Noordinaryspider, I have really learned a lot from your posts at MDC. Thank you so much for sharing yourself with us. I want to respond to your quotes above because I see so much of myself with my own mother in them. I was so very critical of my mother when I was a teen and young adult. I felt a lot like you describe your children as feeling.

Where was it that I read (Reviving Ophelia, maybe?) that girls need to push their mothers away in order to establish independence because it would be so difficult or even impossible otherwise. I really went through that, and now I see my daughter at the forefront of that place, too.

My childhood situation was such that I needed many, many years of independence in order to establish myself as separate from my own mother. I was even a mother myself for over 6 years when I began to come to a place of wanting closeness with my mother, again. It was possibly a tragic but so deeply poignant twist of fate that brought such openness just before the time that my mother would unexpectedly pass on from this earth.

She has been gone for 7.5 years, now, and I feel bittersweetly more intimate with her than ever before. I understand things, now. I understand why she did what she did that I used to mercilessly scorn her for as a rebellious teen and young adult. I tell her every day that I understand things now. It has been so humbling and so healing for me to keep this realization alive. I see so much of my mother in me now that I couldn't/wouldn't before.

Trust that your efforts, no matter how unnoticed they are by your children (for the moment, because we can't know what the future will bring, but my experience tells me they'll see it, too), have laid a foundation that is everlasting. Trust that your own acknowledgment of your work is enough to validate its rightful existence. If what you gave/give is right for you then that is all there is. Because you're the one you live with. Let that be enough.


I look forward to learning from you all as our journeys continue. Thank you for being here and for sharing your stories.
post #16 of 17
My kids are pretty spread out too.
Our oldest is going to be 21 in August "sigh" I miss him (some days) he's away at college coming to the end of his junior year, one more to go and he'll be done.
I have to keep reminding myself and Dh how he's an adult now, he makes his own plans, all we can do is offer advice when asked and ask questions if we have concerns. He seems very able and stable and doing lots of planning for his future without us telling him what to do.
Next is Ds#2 who just turned 15. Freshman in high school doing well, has the teen attitude some days, but is a joy and a good kid more often than not.
Last but defiantly not least is Dd age 4. Hell on wheels, drama queen, sweet as candy and a pain in the butt, all in the space of five minutes. To me she seems excited with life and learning and tries to squeeze everything into a day that she can.
She is very much like the oldest in many ways, he tried and tested us well, so it doesn't seem so bad this time around.
post #17 of 17
I had 2 tenets in raising my 4: 1) I do not do "mommy guilt" ever; and 2) my "job" as a mother is to be out of a job by the time they are 18. So far it has worked so well that Erica says she had nothing to rebel against as a teen.
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