checking out relatives palates - Page 4

[JaneS]

OMG I look at people's faces almost everyday

Gotta run now but will be back to post pics my 5 year old round face boy! I was thinking I needed to update our palate story thread anyways. *And* he wants to be "a farmer with a fine red tractor" when he grows up.

Originally Posted by neveryoumindthere

nak

OK I read through this entire thread and I still have no clue what you all are talking about!
How does eating TF change hte palate/face shape and why does it matter? Any links I can go through?

thx

See this thread and the WAPF link in my sig.
http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=617414

[Vaquitita]

Originally Posted by Vaquitita

what do you guys think of ds teeth?

http://http://i387.photobucket.com/a...Jacobteeth.jpg

when he shuts his mouth his bottom teeth are behind his top teeth, but he likes to jut his bottom jaw forward alot -making faces. i worry about this because i had an underbite. he is doing it in this photo.

i didn't find tf till after ds was born. but grew up ala adele davis and so ate a pretty healthy diet growing up and during my preg (i did flirt with low fat for awhile preconceiving, but loved butter too much to really stick with it). dd doesn't have any teeth yet, but i'll try to find a picture of her that shows her gums. im not sure since she doesn't have any teeth, but i think her palate is wider than ds's.

let's try that link again
http://http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/o...Jacobteeth.jpg

ok here's a pic with him smiling normally...
http://http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/o...acobteeth2.jpg

and here is dd...
http://http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/o...urenteeth2.jpg

[Vaquitita]

Originally Posted by gardenmommy

I think that that huge growth spurt in the teenage years is an excellent time to focus on nutritionally speaking. I've heard it said that the only other time the human body goes through more change is prenatally. Everything is changing, brain, bone growth, hormones, etc. It seems that you could do a world of good by focusing on the diet during those years. It is a shame that so many parents seem to forget about nutrition and allow their teens to just eat junk (after all, all teens drink soda and eat junk, right? It's a normal part of being an adolescent). I am hoping that having grown up on "real food", my DC will appreciate the difference in how they feel when they consume junk.

and i was just worried about feeding my kids right for the first 7years, now i have to keep it up through their teens too?

i hadn't thought about it before, but i ate pretty rotten as a teen. cold cereal or no breakfast, mnm's for lunch, and then a good dinner.

[GoddessKristie]

Originally Posted by Vaquitita

let's try that link again
http://http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/o...Jacobteeth.jpg

Does this shirt have a triceratops on it? My DS has a shirt like that! I love it!

His teeth look good, some good space in between, but it's hard to see the overall shape of his face since he's smiling so big.
Your girl has a very nice face shape! They are a couple of cuties!

[Rainbow2911]

Originally Posted by JaneS

See this thread and the WAPF link in my sig.
http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=617414

I found this link in that thread that was interesting and quite reassuring. It says that with good nutrition some of the problems caused by bad nutrition during pregnancy and in the mothers earlier life can be corrected. Not completly but its still a relief to those of us who discovered tf later!

I shudder to think about my diet when I was a teenager. : I hope that I can keep my kids eating good food and drinking thier raw milk. Perhaps I can start disapproving of it when they hit puberty....

[Vaquitita]

Originally Posted by GoddessKristie

Does this shirt have a triceratops on it? My DS has a shirt like that! I love it!

His teeth look good, some good space in between, but it's hard to see the overall shape of his face since he's smiling so big.
Your girl has a very nice face shape! They are a couple of cuties!

yes it does have a triceratops, he loved those pj's.

is he smiling that big? well, here's a pic of ds not smiling for comparison
http://http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/o...acobteeth4.jpg
to me, they both seem to have pretty square faces. though dd has a longer head overall, which she inherited from dh (though his was much worse as a baby than hers, he was a preemie)

[GoddessKristie]

Gosh, he is so cute! His face does look pretty square. His chin is a bit narrow, but it looks like his face is square from the top to the bottom of his jaw. He's so cute!

[tanyalynn]

I’ll play from the other side. My kids have significant vitamin and mineral deficiencies (thanks Mom), and they actually have very differently shaped faces—my daughter is the spitting image of my husband while my son looks more like me when I was little, and they show the deficiencies in very different ways.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/32570993@N06/?saved=1

For my daughter, I think the tells are her nose/nostrils that are a bit narrow and some pointiness to her chin. It’s interesting that many of her teeth have reasonable gaps, but some are crowded and it’s not in a symmetric fashion.

My son has a different shaped face and more deficiencies overall. His jawline and chin are very heart-shaped. I don’t think chins are supposed to be pointy at all, from the healthy photos I’ve seen on the WAPF and PPNF site, and his is very pronounced. It’s a little hard to see, but his bottom front teeth actually form a v pointing back toward his tongue. But I don’t think his nose is narrow, and his teeth are symmetric—a bit tight in the top front, and very tight in the bottom, but symmetric.

I’m supplementing up the wazoo to see if this can slowly change over the coming years. I guess in a decade, I’ll know!

[angelachristin]

OOH...can someone tell me if the shape of my DS's face is okay or not? I ate horribly when pregnant with him and am trying to overcome that now...it took me forever to even get pregnant with him because I was vegan for several years before TTC.

http://www2.snapfish.com/slideshow/A...82/t_=41069382


this picture shows me with him...I have a horribly long face and had a lot of teeth removed and spaces made as a child, thank you mom for smoking while pregnant, eating badly and not breastfeeding me!

http://www2.snapfish.com/slideshow/A...82/t_=41069382

[leila1213]

Originally Posted by TanyaLopez

It’s a little hard to see, but his bottom front teeth actually form a v pointing back toward his tongue.

My DD too!

[ryleigh'smama]

Originally Posted by Vaquitita

let's try that link again
http://http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/o...Jacobteeth.jpg

ok here's a pic with him smiling normally...
http://http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/o...acobteeth2.jpg

and here is dd...
http://http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/o...urenteeth2.jpg

Your kids are adorable! I think his teeth look great, with good room. But I'm not an expert. They both look like they have great facial structure.

[wagamama]

This is an interesting discussion. I looked at the photos of everyone's kids, but honestly, I find it hard to tell about the wideness of a face. It's easier to judge by teeth spacing, I think.

My parents have slightly crowded teeth on the bottom only. I have bottom crowding, and slight crowding on top (never had braces though, and had space for all wisdom teeth). DS's baby teeth look a bit too tight to me. He has small spaces between all teeth except the two front teeth, which are so tightly packed I need to floss them once a day!

My parents both grew up in England on farms during and after WWII. They had raw milk, raw honey and fresh, organic food, but ... after the war, lots of sugar and white flour too (Dad had white bread and jam for breakfast). Unfortunately, they raised me on a fairly processed food diet.

On the bright side, DS is Japanese and grew up on a fairly traditional diet, and has great bone structure (not all Japanese do) and perfectly aligned teeth.

Anyway, now we are living in Nigeria, and I have to say, 99% of Nigerians have the most amazing, beautifully aligned teeth. Some people even have extra spacing -- it's common to see people with a gap between their two front teeth. And the kids -- well, again 99% have wide spaces between their baby teeth -- way wider than my DS! I googled a photo which looks pretty typical.

http://www.spraguephoto.com/stock/im...f%20Bauchi.jpg

[Junegoddess]

Originally Posted by wagamama

Anyway, now we are living in Nigeria, and I have to say, 99% of Nigerians have the most amazing, beautifully aligned teeth. Some people even have extra spacing -- it's common to see people with a gap between their two front teeth. And the kids -- well, again 99% have wide spaces between their baby teeth -- way wider than my DS! I googled a photo which looks pretty typical.

http://www.spraguephoto.com/stock/im...f%20Bauchi.jpg

That's what I've noticed, too! When we watched the Olympics, and when we sometimes watch international soccer... or just anytime we see Nigerians on TV, they have gorgeous faces. What do they eat? I know it's horribly "typical American" of me to lump the people of Africa together, but... I've always been under the impression that pretty much the entire continent is poor and there's not much food. Is Nigeria doing pretty well? Or do they just eat the right things?

It's weird, but it has already become so "normal" to have crooked teeth. Like of COURSE a child will need braces. Don't they all? Of COURSE you'll need to have your wisdom teeth pulled. Doesn't everyone? So sad...

[Rainbow2911]

This thread is bringing back memories of being in school. The secondary school I went too took a mixture of kids from the town and the outlying villages. You could usually tell from looking at them which kids lived on farms and which didn't - they had different looking faces and were stockier. I can only think on one exception which was a friend of mine who was raised on raw milk and had terrible teeth.
It is market day today in my town and walking around looking at faces was very interesting! There were quite a few beautifuly square/round faces but they were all on much older people. I wonder if it will still be possible to spot the farm kids when my kids are in secondary school?! Kids around here were studied and the ones who lived on farms and had drunk raw milk were found to be healthier. What surprised me was that drinking raw milk was more protective against allergies and asthma than breastfeeding. Wierd!

[tanyalynn]

Originally Posted by wagamama

I googled a photo which looks pretty typical.

http://www.spraguephoto.com/stock/im...f%20Bauchi.jpg

I'd be interested in seeing his bottom teeth (not like we can with an anonymous photo) because his chin is really pointy. Not nearly as bad as my son, but to me not really like the photos on the WAPF and PPNF sites either.

[Vaquitita]

Originally Posted by ryleigh'smama

Your kids are adorable! I think his teeth look great, with good room. But I'm not an expert. They both look like they have great facial structure.

Thank you. I think they're gorgeous, but I may be a bit biased.

i was looking at the healthy babies here: http://http://www.westonaprice.org/children/babies.html
unless it's real obvious, i have a hard time telling about babies. the toddlers and older are easier.

now that we've reassured ourselves that our babies are looking good- now comes the real test, keeping it up through childhood and teenagehood so they can keep the good bone structure they started with!

[tanyalynn]

Originally Posted by leila1213

My DD too!

In addition to the detox-related vitamins and minerals I'm supplementing (my amalgams and decades of pathetic eating are our main problems), I'm giving pretty hefty doses of hvclo and Thorne's K2. It's hard to be sure, but I think the V is less than it was when he was 18mos when I took him to the dentist for what turned out to be plaque in the V teeth.

[gilamama]

such a funny thread!

i am so jealous of one of my neighbors teeth and bone structure. wide hips and shoulders and perfect teeth and sqare jaw. i never checked out chins though, my dd1 has a super wide face and both my dds ahve nicely spaced straigt teeth but there are always other things to overcome. important to remember that how they turn out is a combination of factors.

[PaulaJoAnne]

The following letter was written to all my family this morning.
I had to share it with everyone here.

Also, for those worried if their children will continue to follow good nutrition through the teen years and beyond, make sure to teach them the science behind eating the Weston A Price way. Show them the physical differences!!
Get them in the kitchen too, and start teaching them to cook. Even a 5 year old can start with simple things.
They will retain this information far better.
Yes, they will cheat in their teen years, but their own bodies will give them resounding feedback!

"Steve and I have been taking a single dose of the High Vitamin Cod Liver Oil/ Butter Oil blend for about 5 weeks now. This particualr blend comes from www.drrons.com.
The reason we switched to this brand, is because of what the high vitamin butter oil does for teeth.
It has been used succesfully to reverse tooth decay. Weston A Price discovered this many years ago, and the foundation along with Dr. Ron has continued to recommend its use due to the full success rate that they have observed.
So, here is my story.
I had braces in high school. The result being that I ended up with several large fillings in my molars.
One of the molars was rather weakened. The tooth had a thin wall on the outside.
About 4 years ago, an area big enough for my the tip of my tongue to fit into broke off.
It has never bothered me, so I have left it alone.
I also have 2 or 3 small cavities on the other side, that I was planning on getting filled, until I found out about the blend.
SO........2 nights ago, as I tend to do off and on, I went to check on my broken tooth, just to make sure nothing was caught in it, and of all things, the hole had shrunk by nearly half!
Now, we knew it would rebuild the cavity "tissue", or whatever its called, but this is incredible!
Upon further examination, the entire tooth has thickened up. Its no longer thin around the edges.
This is not supposed to happen, or so we have been told!
Can you imagine how much we are saving in dental bills!!!!!!
And by the way, my cavities are improving.
One reason I think its working so fast, is because we drink so much raw milk as well, so the calcium is readily available to my teeth as well as my bones.
Oh yes, don't believe that thing about the body not being able to take in calcium to rebuild bones when you are an adult. Raw milk blows that myth out of the water."

[leila1213]

Originally Posted by TanyaLopez

In addition to the detox-related vitamins and minerals I'm supplementing (my amalgams and decades of pathetic eating are our main problems), I'm giving pretty hefty doses of hvclo and Thorne's K2. It's hard to be sure, but I think the V is less than it was when he was 18mos when I took him to the dentist for what turned out to be plaque in the V teeth.

So the K2 is instead of the BO? What do you see as the advantage over BO? What do you consider to be hefty doses?





Has anyone here taken any "beauty" classes, like hair/makeup/modeling? This thread is reminding me of some that I took, and how they always emphasize that Oval is the ideal shape, followed by Oblong and Heart shapes (with some tricks to fool the eye into seeing them as Oval). But the dreaded Round and Square face shapes are the least desirable (or "beautiful) shapes and basically frowned upon. And of course you must use special techniques to "correct" them.