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post #41 of 187
I just read through this thread but DH just brough me dinner and Ally Rae's being calm laying in her Boppy so I'm going to take this opportunity to eat alone and I'll reply to everyone a little later.
post #42 of 187
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Originally Posted by JMarie930 View Post
DH has been sleeping on the couch because DD's waking-to-nurse is disrupting his sleep. On the one hand I want to pummel him for thinking that it's okay with me.

I think DD may be getting overstimulated too. DH loves keeping the TV on all.day.long just for 'noise.'
I think our husbands must have been separated at birth - mine does the same things! Once he even came in late at night when Eleanor had been fussy for about an hour (hadn't been to sleep yet and I was really tired), laid down in bed next to us and tried to sleep(!), and after about 15 minutes when she hadn't calmed down got up in kind of a huff and went back out to the livingroom. Gee, thanks for the help! I also get pretty irritated when he complains about being tired and wanting a nap after getting yet another night of uninterrupted sleep. At least he realizes he's not likely to get any sympathy from me, but still, does he HAVE to make comments like that?

We went to the new Bond movie last night, which was awesome! My whole family came over to watch Eleanor, including my 92-year-old grandmother who she's named after. I love seeing how happy it makes them to spend time with her, and she apparently obliged them with plenty of smiles and baby babble! :
post #43 of 187
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Originally Posted by mamanurse View Post
AAM: My stupid saga continues. I've been MIA here because I had to be re-admitted back to L&D Yes, again. I spiked a temp to 104.6 and had a large amount of low abdominal pain on Thursday night so I called my sis to take me to the hospital. It seems I have a bit of scar tissue from the D&C that also became infected. They should just designate a special room for me. I had a small procedure called a hysteroscopy guided laser revision. Hopefully this is the last damn gyn procedure I ever have in my life. Hazel was a trooper and I had my sister come to the ED and stay on L&D with me instead of dh. She's way more useful and a lot less whiney. Dh, of course, stayed with dd1. I've decided he's essentially worthless when I have an emergency. :

The good news is that I have officially hit my deductible on my insurance and am also going to have my "elective" tonsillectomy next month. I was supposed to have it in March, but got knocked up in February instead It's really the best financial time for me to do it since I won't miss anymore work, dh will be home to help with the dd's, and I won't pay a dime out of pocket since I've reached my deductible.
Oh my mama. I'm so sorry to hear your rough times are continuing. I totally believe that we are eventually rewarded for our strength during rough times though so hang in there and know that things will look up soon.

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Originally Posted by neveryoumindthere View Post
how do you *get* them to sleep?
Which signs of tiredness do they give before you get them to sleep or do they just get put down and they close their eyes?

ds is becoming much more fussy and not sleeping as much just wondering what tips you all have
What works best for Ally is me bouncing her while she'd cuddled on my chest. Sometimes she likes that combined with swaying and sometimes she likes it with me patting her back. Her biggest sign of tiredness is when she latches on, she gets panic-y like she can't find the nipple even though it's in her mouth and she cries while it's in her mouth. Silly girl. At that point, I always know she's not actually wanting to nurse (even comfort nurse) but is very tired and just needs to cuddle and calm down. I've also gotten to know her so well that I can look at her eyes and tell when she's needing some sleep. She looks almost drunk. Just very dazed and loses a lot of her animation.

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Originally Posted by Baby_Cakes View Post
And, my reason for posting, which I cannot believe I forgot to mention before, but DH and I DTD last night! Woo hoo! It was a little ouchy at first but then I was fine. I am so glad the "first time" is over with and now it's more about finding time to be together. Huzzah!
YAY for DTD! I'm so nervous about this.

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Originally Posted by sonshine_rae View Post
AAM:

Excuse me while I pout......

: I've been a mess, and really broke down last night, thought PP depression must have been hitting me hard this time.

SIGH but I started spotting late last night, and my period is here today... : This is so frustrating, why can't I be like 'most' women who EBF and don't get their period for months and months !?!?

With my first kid it came back at 5w PP, 2nd kid 8w PP, and now third kid apparently it's back at 6.5w PP .

So now I'm not only tired from being Mommy of a newborn, I'm crabby from having my period... and all of it adds up to a tearful grumpy Mama.

**Sorry ya'll I know most of ya have bigger issues.. and didn't need to read another whine/complaint post... but I really needed to vent it to someone!
Rae, I'm so sorry to hear you're having a hard time PP. What a hard thing to deal with PPD and now the return of your cycles. You know you can call or email me anytime you need someone close by if you need to vent. I'm home all the time too. You're more than welcome to call me if you need some company.
post #44 of 187
Thx for the replies....I should have clarified: I can get him to sleep, but putting him down and getting him to *stay* asleep is my problem...It was with my other 2 as well, I can't believe after 3 and I still suck at getting babies to take a decent nap

HUGS to all you mamas dealing with sleep deprivation. IT totally sucks and it's hard to get through the day when all you need is a few hours sleep. It should get better within the next few weeks.(at least I think so!)

AAM: I could feel PPD rearing its ugly head all last week, was weepy, irritable, angry, so so sad etc....I upped my fish oil to 4000mg and within just 2 days I'm feeling so much better!

seems like the thrush is clearing up too with gentian violet..it's messy but it works so fast!
Ah, babe is crying..bbl
post #45 of 187
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Originally Posted by sonshine_rae View Post
You could also try the 5 s's ... swaddling, sucking (nursing, bottle, or pacifier doesn't matter), side-lying, swaying, shushing.
Awwww.... The good ol' 4th trimester theory. It worked for us with our first. I believe I read about it in "The Happiest Baby On The Block" It's also a movie I believe.

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Originally Posted by AmamaAgain View Post
well..my babe is officially spoiled. thanks to weeks on the couch sleeping while holding him due to c section recovery, he refuses to be in the swing. refuses all pacifiers, sling and bouncer seat. julien will not sleep in the crib/bed or out of my arms. ive tried everything. he will just scream for an hour until i pick him back up. then he gets all cuddled on my chest. its been 6 weeks now since i have slept in my room.l
Not spoiled. Just attached. The way he should be IMO

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Originally Posted by sonshine_rae View Post
SIGH but I started spotting late last night, and my period is here today... : This is so frustrating, why can't I be like 'most' women who EBF and don't get their period for months and months !?!?

With my first kid it came back at 5w PP, 2nd kid 8w PP, and now third kid apparently it's back at 6.5w PP .
That's about the lamest thing I've heard. I'd be downing the Prozac if that happened to me.

Great pics!!!

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Originally Posted by Amber Lion View Post
Dh just took Addie outside and away from me for a little while. We were both in tears, her screaming, over this last nursing session and I finally just set her next to me on the couch and said, "I can't do this right now." Which is when Dh stepped in. For the first time all day, which can't have helped the situation. He slept in, laid in bed and read for a while, and took a couple hour nap so far today. He *did* make me breakfast and take her long enough for me to eat it, but that's it. I NEED help with the other things when this nursing business is so hard, but he won't take her when she's sleeping.

Sorry that all I seem to do these days is vent.
What's going on with your nursing relationship? I'm soory to hear you're having problems. I had a lot of trouble with dd1 and ended up EP'ing for 15 months.

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Originally Posted by JMarie930 View Post
AAM: DH has been sleeping on the couch because DD's waking-to-nurse is disrupting his sleep. On the one hand I want to pummel him for thinking that it's okay with me. On the other hand, at least I can watch terrible reality TV or sappy movies while DD nurses without listening to DH whine about how bad the shows are.
Dh slept upstairs on the futon the first week and I wish he was still up there. It was the best sleep I got postpartum so far. Not only does Hazel keep me up, but DH's snoring does as well.

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Originally Posted by Baby_Cakes View Post
FWIW, DH told me that he doesn't offer to take Nora, but rather waits for me to ask for help. Take this advice ladies, DO NOT wait for your DP to volunteer to help. Just ask for it. Don't wait until it's too late and you're crying and can't take anymore.

And force the issue - I think it was Friday, DH came home from work, and Nora woke up and I told him to change her diaper. He said, ok, I'll change her diaper and you can get her pjs on. I said, no, that's ok, you can put her pjs on too, I've got to throw in some laundry.
I think you and I know how to train our men Carrie. Dh is a baby pro ever since dd1. It was a necessity for him to learn the ropes with her since I was finishing up nursing school while he was home on paternity leave. He can do everything I can with confidence save for wash the diapers and breastfeed. I agree with being assertive and having your dp/dh assume some responsibilities.

Also... Leaving the house. Like to walk the dog or something saved one of my friend's sanity. After her dp got home from work and had about 30 minutes to wind down, she'd feed the baby and leave for a long walk with the dog. This gave her some alone time and it wasn't an option for her dp to opt out or bring the baby to her if the babe was "hungry."

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Originally Posted by TaraRae82 View Post
I just read through this thread but DH just brough me dinner and Ally Rae's being calm laying in her Boppy so I'm going to take this opportunity to eat alone and I'll reply to everyone a little later.
Jealous you got to eat with two hands. That's a rare occurence for me. It's like Hazel has some sort of alarm set on my dinner plate. So that just as I pick up my fork and knife, she starts crying.

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Originally Posted by neveryoumindthere View Post
seems like the thrush is clearing up too with gentian violet..it's messy but it works so fast!
Ah, babe is crying..bbl
Too bad the thrush didn't rear its ugly head a few weeks earlier. The gentian violet face makes for a great baby Halloween costume

I hope things get better for you and that the PPD doesn't sink in.

AAM- The home health nurse was supposed to come draw my labs today and the ho never showed up. I'm self-administering an IV antibiotic at home via a PICC line and need to have labs drawn every other day. They haven't been drawn since Friday so Hazel and I had to leave the house to go into work and have my labs drawn I'm supposed to stay home and lay low. That's why I qualified for home healthcare. Otherwise, though, I seem to be healing well and have been taking it super easy. Dh has taken this latest complication as serious and it's put the fear of G-d into him. He's cleaned the house from top to bottom and has been taking care of me/dd1 the way he should have after the hemorrhage.
post #46 of 187

omg.

And the saga continues. Now we (or at least I) have thrush.

So, from what I've gathered, genetian violet is what I should do? Twice a day? Newman's protocol says to use all purpose nipple oinment, what is that and do I really need it? Please don't tell me I'm supposed to make it.

I want this cleared up fast. I am so pissed that this happened (b/c I could have prevented it w/upping my probiotics and it didn't even cross my mind).

ARGH! GRR!
post #47 of 187
Crud.

I never used it because there is a link reported to oral cancer... I used GSE and diflucan.
post #48 of 187
Did you use the GSE topically or orally? I could probably finagle diflucan out of my mw...if I had to.
post #49 of 187
Ok trying to keep up.

To all the mamas having sleep trouble with their LO's...HUGS! I was there with my first and second. I remember having to hold my 2nd and bounce at the end of the bed. My ex was no help either. It did get better as they got older. My #7 was a daytime screamer and wouldn't nap at all (but she had food sensitivities), it got better when I eliminated the offending foods and she did end up napping after all. Hang in there mamas!

AAM: i'm doing well. I'm getting a bit of "cabin fever" and need to get out. LLL is meeting on Wednesday so I"m thinking of going, just to go somewhere. I'm going to start working out this week too, just a DVD here at home, and if G man let's me have enough time. He naps but they are short naps, less then an hour but very frequent throughout the day. Gotta work on getting him to sleep longer in the day. As for nights, well he just started to go longer spurts. Usually from 9 ish pm to 1 is a.m., but the other night I did get until 3 a.m. I couldn't believe it! Then it's every 2hrs after that.
Oh and we have THRUSH...ugh...i suspected since last week but it's getting really painful now. I just started OTC lotrimin for my nips and will start GSE today. I don't use Genetian Violet because it can cause ulcers in baby's mouth. I'll be heading out for some bifidobacteria today too. this just sucks!
post #50 of 187
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Originally Posted by Baby_Cakes View Post
Did you use the GSE topically or orally? I could probably finagle diflucan out of my mw...if I had to.
Carrie,
I do 5 drops per ounce of water. Swab nipples and baby's mouth frequently throughout the day. If after a few days it doesn't work, up it to 10 drops. I also take per bottle recommendation too.
post #51 of 187
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I just started OTC lotrimin for my nips and will start GSE today. I don't use Genetian Violet because it can cause ulcers in baby's mouth. I'll be heading out for some bifidobacteria today too. this just sucks!
Ok, I didn't want to use GV anyway b/c of how messy it is, and all this talk that it causes cancer and ulcers makes me even more wary.

You can use OTC Lotrimin?!? Can you use Monistat? B/c I have that in the house. And are you going to use GSE orally or topically?

TIA..
post #52 of 187
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Originally Posted by sonshine_rae View Post
AAM:



SIGH but I started spotting late last night, and my period is here today... : This is so frustrating, why can't I be like 'most' women who EBF and don't get their period for months and months !?!?
so sorry..i thought 3 months was early...vent away all u need to.

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Originally Posted by janasmama View Post
No, you wouldn't have any extra slings.
haha! actually, i just sold one to a mama who just had a c/s (for a very cheap price...i just need for some of these to go to good homes and i havent been using them). i think my DP doesnt like the fleece KK...,he's small but i think he still needs a large. and of course, my huge boobs can not use a med. anything right now.

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Originally Posted by NDFanatik View Post

I'm doing good too. I healed up really fast. Boy let me tell you, a vaginal birth ROCKS compared to a c-section. At this point with my son I was still 5 weeks away from being fully recovered and with my daughter it's like I didn't just give birth 3 weeks ago. I feel awesome! Love it!
thats awesome! i dont know that i got a chance to congratulate you on your vbac. its so true..the difference in recovery is just insane...my first 2 were c/s's and ds3 and 4 have been vbacs...i feel on top of the world compared to the first 2 "births". anyway, congrats! i rarely get 2 hands to type so i miss alot.

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Originally Posted by Amber Lion View Post
He slept in, laid in bed and read for a while, and took a couple hour nap so far today. He *did* make me breakfast and take her long enough for me to eat it, but that's it. I NEED help with the other things when this nursing business is so hard, but he won't take her when she's sleeping.

Sorry that all I seem to do these days is vent.
its ok. it helps me that others vent here. even if i cant do it properly! lol!

its amazing how some men just can never get enough rest (im with one also! lol!).

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Just an FYI- Target.com has a few marathons on clearance for 42-59$ with free shipping.
i totally scored on that last night but shouldnt have...i really didnt need another seat. Zen has been through 3..he HATES car seats. I guess thats my punishment for being a car seat freak.

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Originally Posted by Baby_Cakes View Post

FWIW, DH told me that he doesn't offer to take Nora, but rather waits for me to ask for help. Take this advice ladies, DO NOT wait for your DP to volunteer to help. Just ask for it. Don't wait until it's too late and you're crying and can't take anymore.

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this is excellent advice. I didn't start out doing this and totally regret it. I spent about 2 weeks doing everything (and we have 3 stories so that was 2 2 flight of stairs from the laundry to the bedrooms upstairs).

DP does not offer but will do what i ask him to do. He will NOT volunteer.

its not the way i want it to be but its the way it is.

AAM: i finally found tshirts long enough. J. Jill. really nice, dressy, long tshirts that fit over my boobies! im a very happy woman now!

DP went back to work today. he was off for 4 weeks. I am obsessing about what i can do b/c i can NOT stay in this house alone w/ 2 young kids. lol!
post #53 of 187
I used monistat over the counter cream on me, and Nystatin on Henry (DS1) when we had it. It was very effective.

The nystatin is hard to use, adn mine smelled like atomic peaches (hard to describe unless you've tatsed/smelled it) and the dose the doctor prescribed was WAYYYY too much. It gave DS1 diarhea, so I QUARTERED it and just kind of let him lick the syringe while I slowly administered it. It's supposed to be topical/swished anyway, not ingested per se. Nystatin is prescription, BTW- buit it worked so fast.


to all mommas having a hatrd time. I'd love to respond to all of you- but my brain cells have all leaked out my ears, and all I want ot do is sleep. I'm not even that sleep deprived, I think it's just recovery from over a year of constant stress.

mamanurse- good for your DH for sdtepping up to the plate. DH actually came up to me this weekend at one point and said, 'What can I do to help you right now?' :

Changed- just momma, and I'm thinking of you.

babycakes- congrates on DTD! : for you! I might have collared DH again last night, but he put liquer in my cocoa! SO I pretty much passed out!


Milo's cradle cap is so bad! It's crusty and dry, and the treatment I'
m using is working, but I don't want to bathe him as often as I need to treat his scalp! It's in his hair, in his tiny eyebrows, and in the folds of his ears!

I shaved my legs! : Which is actually more of a testamnet to having time in the shower than any physical barrier! Hehehe! But it felt so good, and I wore a skirt and pantyhose to church yesterday.

Milo nursed constantly over the weekend, and he must have increasedmy supply, because I have enormo-boobs this morning. I am a bit nervous about his latch still, so I used the sheild tis morning, because that hot spot is back, and it really hurt this morning! I do NOT want to get mastitis, please! :

getting him to stay asleep, has depended on holding him for a while till he's all limp, and doesn't startle when I get up. THen I can usually lay him down! And suddenlt he HATES to have a poopy diaper! My baby demands to be clean and dry! This kid is going to cost me a fortune in laundry detergent! On the up side, the new smaller wraps I ordered are working perfectly, and that has meant less blowouts on clothing! Yay! OTOH- I have had to change his diaper after his 3 am poop three nights in a row now!

I'm waiting on my sling, I just feel like he'd love it, he HATES the swing, which makes both of my babies now, who aren't fooled by a swing i the slightest! I had to wait for breakfast until he was down fopr his morning nap. . . oh well.

He pretty much hates the meitai too!
post #54 of 187
According to my IBCLC you can use monistat.--barely coat nipples after every feeding.

We seem to be losing the Thrush battle. I think I am going to try to get someone to give me a prescription for Diflucan. This really sucks.
post #55 of 187
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Originally Posted by Baby_Cakes View Post
Newman's protocol says to use all purpose nipple oinment, what is that and do I really need it? Please don't tell me I'm supposed to make it.
I am using all purpose nipple ointment prophylactically on my nips since I'm on IV antibiotics. It's an Rx that I had filled at a compounding pharmacy. It's not natural at all, though, if you're not into allopathic medicine.

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Originally Posted by Changed View Post
I never used it because there is a link reported to oral cancer... I used GSE and diflucan.
GV or all purpose ointment?

You're frickin awesome, btw, Changed. Always so supportive and with good info.
post #56 of 187
I feel horrible! I told myself I was going to participate in this thread this week and haven't.

Nursing is going much better here, although still not perfect. My left breast (the one where the nipple is still quite raw) hurts after most feedings, even if her latch is decent. And decent is all I can do most days, she still just will. not. open. her. mouth. Left to her own devices, she'd slurp in the nipple and just chomp away. So I kinda push down a tiny bit on her chin to help things along and we go from there.

I hear y'all on the husbandperson front. Mine feels a little useless I think, because he's not been very successful in calming her down very often. Told him that I spend all day with her, not to mention the past nine months, and so of course she's more used to me. We just need to have him spend more time with her. Luckily, after next week, he has the week off work for Thanksgiving so that should help a lot!

I started this reply at like 6 or something last night, and now it's almost 11. Gotta love being distracted by hungry babies. Off to catch up on reading now!
post #57 of 187
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You're frickin awesome, btw, Changed. Always so supportive and with good info.
Aren't you sweet!
post #58 of 187
my left nip oftwen tingles after a feeding, i've pretty much gotten used to it.
post #59 of 187
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Originally Posted by TaraRae82 View Post
Rae, I'm so sorry to hear you're having a hard time PP. What a hard thing to deal with PPD and now the return of your cycles. You know you can call or email me anytime you need someone close by if you need to vent. I'm home all the time too. You're more than welcome to call me if you need some company.
Thanks Tara,
I may have to holler at you one of these days, though I don't think I have your phone #? I guess I can just PM you on here.

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Originally Posted by heidirk View Post
Milo's cradle cap is so bad! It's crusty and dry, and the treatment I'
m using is working, but I don't want to bathe him as often as I need to treat his scalp! It's in his hair, in his tiny eyebrows, and in the folds of his ears!
We are having cradle cap issues as well, I used coconut oil on my baby's forehead/eye brow area, and it worked really well. Put it on, let it soak in a couple of minutes and rubbed off the icky skin with my finger nail (gently). I tried the same except with using a comb on his head/hair, but I think the comb was to rough because he got upset and it did seem pretty red. So today I got out the bottle of 'Gentle Naturals cradle cap' treatment/soap I had, and gave him a bath, then used a soft brush in the bath to gently rub away the mess. I think we'll have to repeat that a time or two but it does look better. I'm afraid the cradle cap was blocking his hair from growing in on the front (hehe looks like Daddy, with a bald forehead lol).

AAM: SIGH I'm still really crabby about my period (or because of it), but at least I get to use Mama cloth now (I bought it for the PP period, and get to use it for my cycles too now!), so I'm more comfy then I used to be for this time. Though I was saddened to realize I only got 5 days without pads, between PP bleeding, and my period starting . Oh well.

Samuel is having terribly fussy periods where he's over tired and won't sleep. Last night it was from 8-11pm, usually it's 9-12 or so.... ugh Even though I should be 'thrilled' that he slept 5 hrs once he finally went to sleep (I only got 4 though by the time I laid him in this bed and got myself ready for bed etc). But it just seems so tainted by all those fussy hrs before hand . Usually he sleeps 2-3hrs maybe 4 at night, so that was a good extra stretch. In the daytime unless he's in a wrap or something held against me, he usually only sleeps 30mins-1hr if he'll sleep at all without me. I don't mind holding him sometimes, or wrapping him part of the time, but I do NEED a break sometimes too.

*goes back to repeating her mantra while almost crying.... ahhh these hormones!!*

He WILL only be this little for a short time... I WILL miss this time...
post #60 of 187
Too much to keep up with everything already on this thread!!!! So, to all the mamas having a hard time. And Carrie, I'm jealous that you got to dtd! I'm having problems with my girly parts. My tear is not behaving/healing properly I think. Th emw told me to go back to using the herbs again and if I don't think it's helping she's going to have to come take a look and possibly put more stitches in.. sigh. I have been ready to dtd for weeks now and that's the only thing holding me back lol!

On the DH front.. I noticed mine starting to not participate as much with Elina because she was often so fussy if he took her. I just made him, told him the only way she's going to get used to you is if you give her a chance to. Now they are great pals except when she needs the boob. If he would only babywear, I'd get some serious time to myself once in awhile! Seriously though, I had to ask him to do things, and sometimes I still do, but once he got used to participating he's actually offered to do baby care, day or night!

Elina is in the Moby wrap today! After all the talk about carriers, I decided to give it another go. It's a lot of work to get her into the same positions that we get so easily in the hotsling, but I know I'll be able to do more with it down the road if I can just get accustomed to all this fabric all over me. Plus it seems to snug her in a little more - which was actually hard for her to get used to, she likes to be able to stretch her legs, but it's good for me. She's been snoozing away for about an hour and a half now. Unfortnately I didn't think and put it on over my pajamas. Now I can't get dressed without moving her/waking her up. :
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