June 28 - July 5 Feb Mamas

[ekblad9]

OK, I did it :LOL

I had rice and steamed veggies for lunch. You can't get much blander than that and I still feel kind of :Puke Argh!


Kater07 February
Chiku due Feb 1 birthing center
Parker'smommy (Heather) due Feb 1
Lisashepp (Lisa) due Feb 1
Dandylion (Stephanie) due Feb 2
Truvie due Feb 2
PeacefulVegan (who also answers to Tracie) due Feb 3
Lou due Feb 3
Kelly 1216 (Kelly) due Feb 3
Twin Mom (Deb) Due Feb 4, VBA2C homebirth
Free Thinker (Mandy) due Feb 5
HelloKitty (Kitty) due Feb 6
Letabug (Arleta) due Feb 6
LianneM due Feb 7 homebirth
TexasSuz (Susan) due Feb 7
Happymamajenni (Jenni) due Feb 7 hospital/OBGYN
LesleyLuu (Lesley) due Feb 7
DeirdreAlison (Deirdre) due 1st week Feb homebirth, maybe waterbirth
New Life Due Feb 8
Shannon 0218- due Feb 11 hospital birth with great OB
Tug due Feb 12
Firefly due Feb 13
Christi due Feb 14 hospital birth with fab OB
Periwinkle (Karen) due Feb 14
Fairymomma (Pamela) due Feb 14
Jorie (Margorie) due Feb 14
Ellie's Mom (Jenny) due Feb 14 homebirth
AmBam (Amber) due Feb 14 homebirth
Wtchyhlr (Joy) due Feb 14
Seren (Serenity) due Feb 16 birthing center/waterbirth
rose angel (Karen) due Feb 16
mama2m&m (Denise) due Feb 17
Karennnnn (Karen) due Feb 17
Coopsmama (Kristen) Due Feb 17
weesej (Jen) Due Feb 19 homebirth
mehndimama (Stell) due Feb 22 unassisted homebirth
*Amy* (Amy) due Feb 20 birthing center/possible water birth...?
heveasoul due Feb 24
Ekblad7 due Feb 28

[Ravenmoon]

My nausea is only in waves.With my last kid my morning sickness only lasted a week so i am hoping this one is similar.I do have trouble with smells of food making me feel sick.Yesterday on the radio they were doing a commercial for a McDonald's hamburger and it made me very ill.Then later i smelled some Barbecue coming out of a restaurant and i was salivating.

My appt is today to find out my next beta numbers and get all of my blood taken.The only thing is is that i am going to switch my OB's to be at a closer hospital as back up and i don't want to go to todays appt.But it is the only way i can get my beta's.Hopefully i will meet with some midwives this next week.My insurance doesn't cover them so it will be out of pocket.

[wtchyhlr]

ms is really acting up for me today. I'm thinking there's a correlation to being tired. I woke up to go pee at 2 this morning, and could not get comfortable enough to get back to sleep.

So, this hip pain. HM. Does the below sound like ligament stretchy type pain?
If i'm laying on my back, and roll to my side (either one), if i'm not thinking and don't move knees first, but expect my abs to do the work, i get a deep, sharp pain to the opposite side that i'm rolling. It goes away pretty quick, but its sharp enough to take my breath way.

Am i normal or a freak?

[Ellie'sMom]

Joy: You're not a freak (well not based on this anyway ;) ). I've had exacly that pain. It is definitely ligaments.

Ekblad: Thanks for starting the thread! Could you cut and paste the list of mamas and due dates, and add it to your first post? It is a helpful reference. Thanks!

[wtchyhlr]

Thanks Jenny. Its a bit disconcerting when you're not expecting it.

[*Amy*]

Joy, I had the same exact thing. It kind of freaked me out, but I read in some book (don't remember which one) that it happens especially often when you are standing up from sitting down, or rolling over.

[mehndi mama]

I feel poopy. And I'm supposed to be unpacking, but I don't wanna :(
I'd rather lay around in bed & whine all day.

[ekblad9]

I :hearts my midwives! They are awesome! Even had dh all excited about the homebirth. I'm so happy. Still exhausted and that definately relates to how pukey I feel. I have to work tonight. Argh. The house is staying messy! :)

[*Amy*]

LOL, Stell!

OK y'all, I need some feedback here. DH and I will be going to visit his father, step-mother, and two young sisters (age 5 and 7) for the holiday weekend. DH has already told me that he knows his dad is very much against co-sleeping, and has made negative remarks about DH's aunt/uncle & cousins who co-slept. I am relatively sure this issue will come up this weekend, and I rather rabid about defending myself and my well-educated parenting decisions. I think it will also be much more of a hot topic considering that FIL has the two young girls himself.

Honestly, I lack tact when it comes to these types of things. My stance is, this is our child and we'll raise him/her the way we feel is best. You raise your kids the way you want. Period.

Being a first-time Mama, though, I know they (parents-in-law, grandparents) will all want to offer their 2 cents (even strangers are giving such golden nuggets of advice such as "don't pick up the baby whenever it cries" because they see me reading a pregnancy book in the waiting room of my DH's doctor's office, for f**k's sake), and I am trying to figure out how to be gracious, yet confidently be able to assert our beliefs. Well, I guess I should say one thing in our favor will be that the co-sleeping aunt in question will be there as well so I'm hoping that I won't feel quite so attacked.

I guess I just get easily offended by people not thinking I know what I'm doing, when the fact is that I have put A LOT of thought, energy, and love into the decisions that DH and I have made so far. Also, to be honest, I kind of have the personality type where I get annoyed when people try to tell me how to do something that I feel perfectly confident about myself.

Oh, and one minor fact of note...DH is 3 1/2 years younger, and his parents had him when they were young, which means that his parents are more like older brother/sister age to me than mother/father age, so I have a VERY hard time accepting their attempts to "parent" me. Oh, and I'm pregnant, so I'm irritable and easily offended.

I'm sure that some of y'all have had to handle this type of thing before. What is the best approach to take?

[heveasoul]

Oh Amy, I hear you...:hug

I know it will be a learning experience, and that we will have to be prepared to be flexible, but we too have put a lot of thought into the many choices. (and I emphasize the word CHOICES...ugh - people who just do what marketers and doctors tell them is best...a whole 'nother thread...)

Unsolicited advice has GOT to be one of my biggest fears going into this...yesterday, dh mentioned that when he was talking to these two guys, one asked, "So, are you getting the baby's room ready, have you chosen your colours", dh replied that no, we were going to be in the same room...And of course, then the "blah blah blah - ok, for the first few months in a bassinette, but not IN the bed?! what we did was..., aren't you afraid of crushing it, etc..."

Anyway, it rolled like water on a duck's back, dh said - he told me when it happens, to let them go on, to remember that these people just want to hear themselves talk. I will try and remember that next time someone tries to tell me that they know better...

[shannon0218]

It's tuff Amy, like you, if I begin to defend myself I go all the way--do his parents HAVE to know you plan to co-sleep?? Why not say you haven't decided yet--I guess my thing is that my family will never know as they are not going to be in my house when we are all sleeping. I plan to have a room for the babe with toys and change table etc in it (our bedroom is way too small to keep any more stuff in it--even more clothes) so if they want to see the baby's room, there will be one there--of course, our cat will likely be sleeping in it, but what the heck!!

Had my U/S and I can honestly say I've never been so thrilled as I am right now. We saw a heartbeat and baby is measuring dead on 7 weeks, 4 days (which is exactly how long ago we did the first insemination) I could even see the little one moving around, so cool, so cool.

[mehndi mama]

They had their chance to do it their way with their babies, and now it's your turn, and it's not up for discussion. You'll be happy to provide them with concrete evidence that co-sleeping is not more dangerous than crib-sleeping, and that co-sleepers do not grow up warped.

How's that? ;)

Still oozing around like a slug here.....DH is bringing Subway home for dinner.

[mama2m&m]

with my ds we did all the "normal" and "expected" stuff and were patted on the back, etc. then i discovered what's really important and matters in raising children and suddenly we were being questioned on everything we did and i was constantly defending my choices.

in the end i think what someone else said is that they like to hear themselves talk. plus i think the generations before us want to be validated for the way they parented as if since we do it differently that makes their way wrong. which may or may not be the case.

i started just nodding my head and saying something banal such as "oh okay" or "things have changed so much" or even "well, my doctor said to do it this way." okay so the last one was a cop out but it did the trick when needed LOL!

you know that however you parent is because that's what you feel is best and while it's nice to educate and inform people it's okay to let people talk because they want to talk, without agreeing with them or feeling the need to defend yourself.

yeah once you get pg and then actually ahve the baby, people come out with all sorts of "advice" sometimes it's really funny LOL.

[mama2m&m]

oh shannon that's awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! grow baby grow!!!

[heveasoul]

Yay Shannon! What wonderful news! :D

[Periwinkle]

OMG Shannon hurrah! YOu took my breath away with the "baby is measuring dead" :eek but then I kept reading. YAY! :love

I'm coming out of self-imposed hiding-slash-self-protectiveness-about-how-EARLY-this-is :) to say, I am 7 completed weeks today. My first sonogram and OB appointment is tomorrow. It's pretty soon for a sono but I need to know if it's twins again. Supposedly there's a 1 in 15 chance when you've already conceived fraternal twins. I am admitting to myself that I really, really, really do NOT want twins again but that dh and I will handle whatever G*d throws our way, no doubt. (Singleton vibes welcome, nonetheless ;) ) And now in honor of my first impending sonogram, my heart is in my throat and I am freaking, worrying that there won't be a heartbeat. I mean, there SHOULD be a heartbeat now right?? Everything I read says it's there by 6 weeks (completed) and visible then or very soon thereafter. I am 100% positive of my O date, so I'll definitely be 7+1 weeks tomorrow. Anyway, strong heartbeat vibes welcome.

Some catching up to do...

Ravenmoon - Good luck on those beta #s!
wtchyhlr - This is me to a T. I flip over suddenly in the middle of the night and am just shot with pain for a moment. I remember this from last time.
Jenny - I've been touching base here and there over past 2 weeks and am so relieved to hear everything looks OK. Still :fingersx for you and your babe - when will you know "for sure" that all is good?
mehndi mama - Sorry you're feeling like a slug. I feel like one myself. mmmm.... Subway... :yum
Ekblad - Hurray about a (dh-supported no less) homebirth with caring midwives. Sounds wonderful!
Heve - Things sound really good. Pregnancy symptoms are so welcome when you've been worried about how things are going! :)
Amy - I think the higher road is not to defend yourself at all. Whenever I get in these kind of conversations with my parents, I just try to nicely say something like "I respect that you have a different opinion/approach/way of doing things and that that's worked for you. [Whether or not this is complete horsedoodoo LOL] But this is how we're going to do it, and I'm not really interested in feedback on this one. Let's move on."

Everyone else I'm too tired to mention (for tonight!) - :dust :fingersx: :sticky :sticky :sticky

[Lousli]

Yay Shannon! What awesome news. I'm so happy for you!

My appointment also went well. The doctor did a culture for herpes (see my other thread) which hurt like the dickens, but also told me he hasn't done a c-section for herpes in something like 15 years (since Acyclovir became available). He had a hard time getting a good picture of the babe, and much like my mom's office, it was measuring a little small (about 7w1d). If you would like to take a look at my chart, it is still in my sig. Do you think I O'ed on CD 15, 16, or 17? Or some other day, I guess? Anyway, he said my due date was somewhere between 2/7-2/15, so I will find out when the baby comes! I'll be having the nuchal translucency test in a few weeks.

I knew my day would suck, and it did. One of the kids in my class threw up about 4 times before she managed to get out the door. We had to throw away her $90 brand new textbook, and I had to take my class into one of the kindergarten rooms for about 2 hours until my room was "safe" again. The kids, were of course, totally wild. Ugh. On the plus side, i ordered Chinese food, delivered, and it just got here!

Stretching/mild cramping/round ligament pains are normal, if sucky.

Amy, sorry about the unasked for advice. I try to stay off these topics with anyone who is going to give me grief. I try to say, "We'll just have to agree to disagree" or "I really feel very strongly about this issue, so why don't we talk about something else?" That way I'm being both honest and polite. It does suck sometimes though. How about this one? "Are you going to nurse her while you're pregant? You will rob the fetus of nutrients!" ARGH!!

[Periwinkle]

Lesley, I'd say CD16 just like FF. I've read that OPKs can still read + AFTER you've O'd if you have a really high LH surge or a prolonged LH surge. That temp spike is pretty clear though and correlates with HSO cervix too.

:hug for your crappy day. The Acyclovir also sounds really promising - can they give it to the baby after delivery too or do they not do that? What is a nuchal translucency test? Are you at risk for having a baby with Down's? I'm so sorry you've had such a rotten day and also found out about Herpes basically at the same time.

[Lousli]

Thanks periwinkle,

FF says CD 15, but that's why I asked (the CM, and + OPK's)

About Acyclovir for the baby, I don't know if they do that unless they feel that the baby was exposed (which if I don't have an active lesion is minimal risk).

I'm not (that I know of) at risk for having a baby with Down's, but the nucahl transparency is a non-invasive (ultrasound) test done at around 10 or 11 weeks that helps determine your risk of Downs and some other chromosomal abnormalities. Since it is done so early, if for whatever reason the parents decide to persue further testing (amnio or CVS) then the pregnancy can be terminated more easily. Not to offend anyone by talking about pregnancy termination, but there are certain abnormalities that infants cannot live with, and I would probably terminate rather than have to see my baby suffer and pass away.

Okay, that was a huge super downer! I'm not really worried that anything is wrong, especially after seeing that heartbeat today!

I have to go help dh with dd, they both have colds, and dh is pretty miserable. We're all tired, and looking forward to my break in just 1.5 days!!!

[seren]

SHannon, that's great about the u/s!

I haven't been on the comp much the last few days, just too tired to do much of anything. I posted last week about my loss of libido, well I found it. And it's back with a vengence. Anyone else cry after GIO? I never did with dd, a few times with ds, and this time I have every single time. It's not a bad cry. I don't really know how to explain it. Just almost immediatly after we are done I start crying. Luckily dh says he takes it as a compliment and doesn't get upset. Am I a freak?

[shannon0218]

Lesley, that's great about the low chance of c-section for you!!! As for when you O'd, I'd also go with the temp spike--you weren't sick or anything then were you??
Seren, I have cried a couple times, I'm trying to hide it from Steve as he's so worried he's hurt me, so I just shimmy off to the bathroom.
So far I've kept down some kraft dinner tonight and at least one glass of juice (I never drink juice but I figured it was better than nothing)

[Christi]

Evening Ladies

Shannon, that is such good news to hear. I'm glad you were able to enjoy your honeymoon and then come back to this wonderful news! :D

Amy, The other day my mom asked me where we were going to put the baby. I said that we are going to get a bigger bed. We all sleep in a queen now. She didn't even argue. I guess she finally sees how easy and healthy ds is. When ds sleeps at her house he sleeps alone and is fine with that.

Today I actually had energy. I didn't get anything accomplished in my house. ds and I played outside all day. We have been having such unusual weather for the last week. It was only 70 today. I feel guilty because I haven't had the energy to take ds out. So today we had fun at the park.

I haven't felt any ligament pain for the last week or so. It is kind of strange not to have it. I definately had it a lot both times I was preg.

Twinmom, How far along were you when you found out that you were having twins? DId the doctors treat you different when you found out? I was thinking about that the other day when I was reading a story about doctors who didn't know that a woman was having twins and the babies were still healthy. My Grandma was surprised with twins and everything was fine. That was 61 years ago. Is it really necessary to be classified high risk if you are having twins? If you are not experiencing any diffuculties. I'm just wondering what you opinion is since you have experienced them.

[Ellie'sMom]

Lesley: I'd say CD 15 if you are pretty confident about your CM consistency and cervical position. In fact, I've rarely seen such a pretty chart! You had all the signs and GIO'd at the perfect times!

Periwinkle: Thanks for the crossed fingers. I am still so freaked out about posting here, so I really understand why you've been lurking. I have an u/s on Friday. I should be 7w4days (or 6 days or 2 days, I'm a little confused about my o date), so I should be able to see a hb. Good luck with your u/s. Sending you lots of healthy singleton baby vibes!!

Shannon: WOOHOO!!! Yay squirmy baby!

Ekblad: I'm glad you have great midwives! I am playing phone tag right now with a local CNM who does homebirths. I can't wait to meet her.

Lesley: What a relief that the herpes sounds manageable. I'm sorry about the rough day. The kids were nuts our last week of school as well, but for me that just meant treating lots of injuries from fights and playground injuries. OT, but I would love to hear more about the school you are in. This was my first year working in a school. It is such a unique culture!

Amy: My FIL is the king of unsolicited advice. I want to second what others have said about just keeping it as a non-issue if possible, especially at this point. I should tell you that I had some passionate discussions with the ILs about co-sleeping before dd was born. Ultimately, co-sleeping did not work for us. Ellie is a really light sleeper (like her mama) and she sleeps better in her own space. I hated the satisfied look on FIL's face when he heard that we bought a crib. Argh. On the other hand, I never discussed EBF with FIL (though I know he thought it was wierd), but I just kept nursing her. When we saw the ILs at Christmas, FIL commented on how independent and adventurous dd is. He also saw her nurse a ton. I am hoping just seeing my terrific kid made the argument. If you need to, maybe just say something like, "Well, we'll do what works for our family." That's my fallback now.

Mehndi: Hope your sluggitude ends soon!

Raven: Sending good beta vibes!

Things were much better today. My mom is here now, and dd is sooo happy to have her GM to play with. It takes lots of pressure off, but I really miss dh!

[ekblad9]

OMG, go away for a few hours and there's like fifty posts to catch up on! :LOL I went out to Starbuck's after work so dh could put the kids to bed before I came home :bag: Isn't that awful? I felt so crappy I just didn't want to deal with anything. I felt really crappy there but at least I could sit and sip water in peace. I miss coffee. :( I keep telling myself how worth it this all is and of course I know the end result is so worth it. I just hate this feeling of :Puke all the time.

Yeah for the heartbeats that were seen and heard today! :heartbeat That is so awesome! I really want to see my baby's heartbeat (or at least hear it) but there's a while to go until that. I'm 7 wks today, too. Only 5 more weeks of morning sickness! Then I can enjoy this pregnancy again!

Take care ladies! :hug

[Ellie'sMom]

OMG you chatty pattys! In the time it took me to write my post (I was talking to my mom too, so granted it was like 45 minutes.) there were 5 more posts!!

I'm going to curl up in bed and read my new Mothering mag. You all tire me out.

[Ravenmoon]

Yay Shannon!Congrats on hearing that lovely heartbeat.I can't wait to hear it.Two weeks for me.

My beta's were better then expected they went from 33 to 213 in two days.I'll know todays results on Wed.

Now i am feeling good about this one.Even better once i see the heartbeat!

Hi everyone~

[Parker'smommy]

Hi ladies!!

Ive been mia for awhile because Ive just been too sick to even post. I wish I would just throw up and feel slightly better for awhile but alas, I just feel crappy. I feel like you do Amy- Lets get on with this sickness stuff and enjoy this pregnancy!!! I remember the 2nd trimester to be the best part of the pregnancy. We shall see if this holds true for this bean.

I'm glad to see so many mamas joining us here!! I am due Feb 1st so I joined up when it was just a few of us, left to lay on the couch for a few weeks and actually felt up to posting tonight and wow, we are full!!!!

I'm so happy and jealous to see so many homebirthing mamas here too! Wow, that is great!! Im attempting a vbac and havent been able to find a midwife to do it so now I am going to try the most awesome OB to help me with my birthing goals......

Also, congrats to all those seeing and hearing their babes....so awesome, especially those first time mamas hearing it for the first time....I remember it so well with ds!!!

have a great week ladies and hopefully we all start to feel better!!!!


and oh, is anyone already feeling too big to wear their clothes????I heard that you popped out faster with your second, but geez, Im only 8 weeks!!!!!!!! I REFUSE to wear maternity clothes this early!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eyesroll :D

[*Amy*]

Good morning all!

First, HOORAY to everyone who saw/heard heartbeats! :throb I'm so happy for y'all! I can't wait til I get to that point in my own pregnancy. I have my first appointment tomorrow, but it is with the nurse just to gather my medical history so I don't think I will be able to hear anything. I may try to convince them to use the doppler, so keep your fingers crossed for me!

Thanks to everyone for your wise words regarding the nay-sayers and buttinksis! I think the "we'll do what's best for the family" is the best approach, with a few "I see your point"s added for good measure. This is only the second time I will have interacted with the in-laws, so perhaps it's a bit too early in the marriage and pregnancy to begin alienating them! LOL :D

I have been in the best mood the past couple of days,and it feels *really* good. DH and I went to see that documentary Supersize Me last night (excellent, by the way), and we were walking around the little town where the indie theater is afterwards, joking around like we usually do (before nausea and moodiness) and he said, "you sure are in a good mood tonight," and I said, "it won't last." But I woke up this morning again feeling really good, so I'm just going to enjoy it while it lasts. My nausea has been minimal the past two days, too, and I even got a day's respite from the never-ending breast pain...so it's been a good 36 hours for me so far. I hope it continues at least through the day because I have to go back to the old apartment one final time to clean and get the rest of my clothes. Not looking forward to that, but at least it'll be OVER today.

On that note, I'd better get my butt up and moving.
Have a great day everyone!

[mehndi mama]

I have a question - are you all actually believing the "adjusted due-dates" based on your ultrasounds? I don't want to step on anyones' toes, because I know that many of you need these sonograms right now for various reasons, but this whole trend of "I went in for my ultrasound today, and they moved my due-date up" really gets me steamed. A baby doesn't care what it's due-date is - it's gonna come out when it's fully cooked, no matter what the ultrasound says! And if the us is saying your're further along than your chart was saying, then you're dealing with a doctor who is more likely to say you're post-dates when the time comes, even when there's a possibility that you aren't. (Has anyone been reading the pre-40 week induction thread in Birth & Beyond?)

Anyway, just thought I'd ask. Something to think about, if anything.

[ekblad9]

I'm didn't get an ultra sound or anything but I know my midwives just want to be safe regarding fluid etc. They said they have to do an ultra sound at 42 wks if I haven't delivered yet because of safety reasons. I guess a due date is important for that. Other than that I'm happy saying that I'm due anywhere from mid February to mid March. That gives me lots of time to relax and just enjoy. :)

How's everyone feeling today? I'm OK right now. Did a bit of cleaning this morning. I made my older kids clean the bathrooms and laundry room :LOL Then I was able to make some bread and give a couple of baths. The baby is sleeping now so I think I will sneak in a shower. I'll be feeling like :Puke in a few hours.

:hug to everyone!

[mama2m&m]

hello everyone!

mehndi mama, my last pg i had an early u/s because of spotting. her machine measured exactly how far along i thought i was based on ovulation since i chart. at first she tried to do the regular calculations but i ovulate later than average so she accepted my dates and they matched the u/s. it was pretty cool.

amy, glad you're feeling better!!!!

parker's mommy, i have hardly any pants that still fit. ihave some shorts that are elastic band but other than that i'm too bloated. i dont' mind so much wearing maternity clothes as long as they're cute lol. but i'll wear anything that's comfortable.

ravenmoon, glad your counts are good!

jenny, thinking of you! i hope all goes well friday :hug

so i feel remarkably well today. i did eat a hamburger last night but i can't believe that's the cause. my boobs hurt less. i feel so not pg and that scares the crap out of me. i'm so worried ladies. i think i'm going to cry. did i jinx another pg? i did ask for the m/s to be taken away but i hope that means my pg isn't taken away as well. do i sound like a nut? i have my appt. tomorrow and i think i'm losing it. sorry to sound like a crazy and hope i'm not bringing everyone down. i have no one to talk to right now. i can't wait until tomorrow is over.

[shannon0218]

Stell, my U/S also measured to the day of when I know I ovulated (I had IUI and cycle monitoring so I know when I ovulated within about 4 hours)
My previous pregnancy however, the first U/S showed the baby measuring 5 days small--which in retrospect was do to IUGR that proceeded to get worse--my OB changed my due date to give me more time, she said she wouldnt' change it if I was measuring 5 days older, but that when baby measures small, she changes it so nobody panics if baby is "late" However, I do know that my OB is an exception where common sense is concerned.
I'm still very sick today, I'm worried my ob will put me on IV again today. But I did keep some kraft dinner down last night.

[HydeParkB]

So sorry to hear about all the morning sickess, ladies.

So far, all I am dealing with is a little queasiness, knock on wood. And last night I got an extra hour of sleep, and I think that has helped matters. Right now I am enjoying a cup of Brown Cow full fat yogurt, which cream on top and chocolate sauce on the bottom. Mmmm.

Last night I thought there was a little spotting, but today everything seems fine.

Hang in there 'til tomorrow, mama2m&m. Thinking of you.

[Ravenmoon]

U/S done in the first trimester are accurate by a 3 day margin.They can measure much better during this time.I have a midwife so i am not worried about induction.I inducted myself last time with castor oil and acupuncture because i was 43 weeks and i knew i was 43 weeks.My baby came out very dry and there wasn't much amniotic fluid left.I feel i know my body fairly well but with my history of miscarriage i feel i need the reassurance of a first trimester U/S.I know the risks.

Feeling quesy today and loving it!

[Ellie'sMom]

Big :hug Denise. You know I know where you're coming from. You are NOT going to jinx anything with wishing you weren't sick.

Trying to catch up on work, so no time for a real post. Just had to pop over and give a hug and a dope slap to m&m. :)

[Lousli]

My ultrasound actually measured the baby smaller than I thought, and gave me a later due date. The reason I'm asking about it is that I had some confusion with charting this cycle (EWCM past the O date given to me by FF, as well as + OPK's past that date) I was new to charting CP this month, so while I think CD 15 was the only day I had HSO, I'm not 100% certain that I didn't also have it on CD 16 and/or 17. Finally, my temps on CD 16 and 17 are unreliable, due to night waking, so this month's O wasn't really clear to me. I suppose a few days doesn't matter, but I thought I was 7w6d yesterday, and my biggest measurment was 7w1d. I just want to make sure that everything is going okay, and baby is developing normally (no IUGR).

My OB is very cool though, and he said because of the position of the baby he was having a hard time measuring. Since I was charting, he thinks my O date was pretty accurate, and instead of moving my EDD to 2/14 or 2/15, he moved it only to 2/9.

But I still think baby might come in january.

[mama2m&m]

Big :hug Denise. You know I know where you're coming from. You are NOT going to jinx anything with wishing you weren't sick.

Trying to catch up on work, so no time for a real post. Just had to pop over and give a hug and a dope slap to m&m. :)


thanks jenny, i needed that!

[shannon0218]

Well I'm back and I'm not on IV yet. Turns out I can keep down popsicles so she told me to eat lots of them all day and try to eat something solid and drink lots of water during my 2 hour window in the evening when I'm not too bad. Oddly I feel much better just after eating 3 popsicles. She says as long as I don't get dehydrated she's willing to leave me with no IV. She also suggested that when I come into town in the evening to take home my daycare dogs I can pop into labour and delivery for a shot of gravol--that way I'd be more likely to keep down dinner. So a few options, none of which require a hospital bed or nurses coming to my house. She also said I was actually on a low dose of the diclectin and I can basically double it--which is good to know, I had been puking up the first dose about a half hour after taking it but didn't want to retake it as I didn't know how much had been absorbed, so now if I hurl I can retake it and hope I can get a decent dose in.

[mehndi mama]

Man, I thought I was feeling bad yesterday....but after reading your posts, Shannon, I should just suck it up & count my blessings!

BTW, I wasn't refuting the validity of us measuring a baby for gestational age early in the pregnancy - just the wisdom of adjusting the due-date because of it. So many people seem to put such faith in their specific due-date these days.....but the baby comes when it's ready to, no matter what the due-date is, yk? I don't know - maybe I'm just disdainful of due-dates in general :bag: I'm one of those people who answers the "when are you due?" question with "Oh, sometime in February". They always get wierd on me - "Don't you know the exact due date?!?!" Of course I don't! Only God knows that! :LOL

[Periwinkle]

I have a question - are you all actually believing the "adjusted due-dates" based on your ultrasounds? I don't want to step on anyones' toes, because I know that many of you need these sonograms right now for various reasons, but this whole trend of "I went in for my ultrasound today, and they moved my due-date up" really gets me steamed.

Absolutely not. For me, I know 100% for certain when I O'd, so I will always know my due date regardless of what a sono says. It is important for ME to know my due date, because it really does matter if you experience problems whether you're 27 weeks or 28 (example). BIG differences in just a few days here or there.

Onto happy news!!

I just had my first OB checkup and sono. I had a sono because I needed to know if I was carrying twins again -- no way we could risk waiting til 20 weeks for that (it would change everything for me: what I eat, what I do, how I mentally prepare, labor/delivery options, etc etc.). Anyway...

We saw a good strong heartbeat (150 bpm! :heartbeat ) and a beautiful little smudge of a baby! (head, spine, arm/leg buds -- too cute)

I know "anything can happen at any time" but it is SUCH a relief to know that once you detect a heartbeat via sono, the risk of miscarriage plummets to <3-5%. I am someone who really needs to work on the "relax and enjoy it" factor -- to be honest, I think I'm still a little traumatized from my last (twin, high-risk, monitored-to-death) pregnancy and need to just breathe and enjoy this pregnancy and the babe growing inside me!

This is me working on relaxing and being happy...
:Peace :zzz :raz :hearts :toothy :sunshine :D :)

Also good news: my OB says "definitely a go" re: supporting me trying for a VBAC. :banana I have some increased risks (bad adhesions from a previous surgery etc) that make it important for me to labor in a hospital just in case, and to be honest that's a lot more in line with my own personal comfort zone anyway... but he also said he was more than happy to let labor start on its own up to 43 weeks (hey, 43's not bad, he's still an OB after all - but I'll take the extra week!) and is very much in support of vaginal birth. I'm also going to start looking into getting a doula. My primary goal is baby's health - I'm not really someone who puts a lot of stock in how baby is brought into the world provided baby and I are healthy, so mostly I'm looking to maximize outcome. Currently, the best outcome would be VBAC (for both of us), but I also know things change, so I'm going to be flexible and realize birth plans aren't set in stone. Ultimately, it's good to know my OB is very supportive of VBAC goals, regardless. :thumb

[mehndi mama]

43 weeks?!?!?! Pat that man on the back!!!!!!!!! :D

[Periwinkle]

No kidding! I couldn't believe my ears either, so asked him to clarify. He said, as long as you're fine and the baby is fine, I see no problem with going that far post date.

I almost kissed him. :D

[Lousli]

Awesome! I hope my OB will be so understanding, although he seems to be so far.

In fact, yesterday in his office, i didn't know how to bring this up, but I told him about the person who gave me terrible advice over the phone. I called in with a cold, and she told me that "any of the Tylenol products are safe to take. You can take Tylenol Cold and Sinus" so I'm thinking, "That has Sudafed in it" and I say, "What about Sudafed?" she answers with, "You can't take Sudafed in your first trimester" (What? I can't take Sudafed, but i can take Tylenol and Sudafed mixed together?)

Then she offered to call in a prescription for antibiotoics for me! I told her, "I don't need antibiotics, I have a cold." and then realized she was an idiot, and i might as well get off the phone.

Long story short (too late!) he told me he would have an office meeting to clarify what advice to give patients over the phone!

Anyway, back to you all.

Shannon, glad the popsicles are working for you.

Periwinkle, Congrats on your bean's heartbeat!

Mama2m&m, I'll be thinking of you tomorrow.

Eeek! The bell is about to ring, I have to go!

[fairymama]

Delurking with a :hug for Denise. I can so relate. Just take a deep breath and repeat your mantra that today you are pregnant and everything is fine. It's okay to feel okay, you really don't have to be sick to have a healthy baby. ( I know you know that, just wanted to repeat it for you)
I've been nausous at times, very tired, and have sore breasts, but that's about it. I just remind myself 20% of women have no nausa of any kind, it's okay. My hCG went up so well they quit taking it. Last Monday it was 11,040 and my progesterone is holding steady at 16-17. Still doing those fun suppositories twice a day, but what a small price to pay. Have had no spotting of any kind for a week now, so feeling more confident. My first dr. visit is next Tuesday, so waiting really sucks. Hurray to all those with that first, strog heatbeat visit behind you. It really makes such a difference to ones mental health, IMO.
I too have felt like posting here would jinx something, but feel I need the support more! We've only told maybe 5 people IRL, and that includes grandparents. We haven't told Carrie, our 3 year old, as I felt if would be too long of a wait and didn't want to deal with the negative outcome. Of course, she knows something is up. We've been so careful with conversations around her, but she asked me yesterday if I had a baby sister in my tummy. I told her I didn't know. She prays all the time for a baby sister and told my mother she was getting one for her birthday, which is February 5th. That was before we knew anything, so who knows :)
Pamela

[seren]

I haven't had an ultrasound, but I don't really belive the due dates I have been given based on my LMP. I have been given the 14, 15, and 16. I think I am actually due sometime the following week, probably the 25. I have been having 38 day cycles. I did the same thing with my ds. He was due the 16 according to my LMP, but according to ultrasound was due the 23. When he was born the midwife said he was actually due later than we thought (we had been going by the 16) and he was born the 15. So, I have just been saying sometime in Feb.

[Ravenmoon]

Yay for the heartbeat and one baby Periwinkle!

Thinking of you tomorrow mama2m&m.Hugs~

Shannon i hope you feel better soon!

Hi to everyone,busy day.

[heveasoul]

Yay Periwinkle on the u/s results!

I go in today for my first u/s - dh is coming to join me, then we'll go out for lunch...still undecided on how many more I'll have after this one, but that's another story, another day...

So, what am I supposed to be able to see at 4 weeks (embryo), 5 weeks, 5 days (preg - based on LMP)? I guess the main thing is to see that it's not ectopic, but what else?

The requisition states it's for dating and viability...but I'm sure whomever I end up working with will take my O date into consideration...not that it's far off from the LMP-based edd...

[wtchyhlr]

Great news all of you getting ultrasounds.... i'm kind of jealous, my first prenatal appt isn't til July 20. And i am not sure we're doing an ultrasound then, but will be listening for heartbeat.

So this morning my m/s decided to pull a u-turn and i've had intestinal issues instead of queasy issues. Is this normal?

[AmBam]

Good morning Ladies!! Congrats to all of you who heard or saw your little ones heart beating. That is always my favorite part! I have an appointment with my mw on the 8th. Probably won't hear one but will have my first prenatal! (Mostly just talk!! I love my mw! She is so cool!)

Anyway, I felt a little better yesterday and not too bad this morning. I am in the middle of packing so it's a good thing. We have to be out of here by the end of the weekend and the house that we are moving into is still occupied!!! They couple living there is building their own home and it isn't finished yet!!! :irked: So we will be living in my mom's 5th wheel trailer (which I SWORE I would never do again!!!) We lived in it for a few months 2 summers ago when I was preggo with my 16 month old! It was terrible!! I get soooo clostorphobic (sp?) Anyway, we should only be there for a week or two but who knows!! Okay enough of my whining!! ;)

[mama2m&m]

ambam, that's pretty sucky! i hope the moves go well and you get into you new place really soon!

wtchyhlr - at this point i'd say almost anything is normal LOL. not sure which is worse but hope you feel better soon.

heve, good luck today!! you *may* be able to see a heartbeat depending on the machine. i hope to see one too.

thanks ravenmoon and fairymama. I sure needed the hugs and verbal reminders. I had totally forgotten my mantra in my despair. just a few more hours now.

lesly, that person sounds like a dodo! hope that you're feeling better soon.

peri, glad the visit went well!

mehndi, i like that response! maybe i'll borrow it ;) i'm getting feisty in my old age

shannon, i hope things are still going okay. how are the popsickles working out??

[Christi]

Hi Ladies,

So today I'm having negative feelings. I haven't had any preg symptoms for a few days. I feel absolutely normal. I haven't had any cramping or spotting. I just have that feeling lurking in the back of my mind. I'm thinking of calling and asking for an u/s to see. My first apt is on the 12th so its still a couple weeks away. I feel kind of numb.

[ekblad9]

:hug Christi - go get an u/s. It will make you feel better. It's a long wait to the 12th.

[shannon0218]

Heve, at 5 weeks 5 days, they can usually only see a sac and a yolk sac (sometimes they can't see the yolk sac) They may not tell you at the U/S and you may have to wait till Val gets the results tomorrow (just warning you--I was so upset when that happened the first time) Where are you going to the one in the hospital or the one on Main St.? (or are you going somewhere closer to you??) Oh and she wrote dating so OHIP wouldn't question it at this early stage--that's standard.
Christi, I agree, go in for a scan, or at least a series of betas, put your mind at ease.

[HelloKitty]

Forgive me, I have not read everyone's posts this week :bag: I have been soooooo sick that I haven't even had the strength to come here! Anyways I know a lot of us are suffering through this horrible nausea so I wanted to share some pointers that my doc shared with me the other day, maybe some will help others. These are in addition to the well known "eat a little something before you get up in the morning and eat small meals throughout the day". Here goes...

Exposure to the sun can make the nausea worse so try to stay out of all day sun and wear sunglasses and / or a hat when you are outdoors. (I noticed this big time as the day after I spent the day on the beach was pure and utter Hell)

Something about the way that dill pickles are made can help - this is also actually an old sea captain trick for helping those that get sea sick. (You are suppose to suck on the pickle as opposed to shoveling it down your throat.)

White grape juice (thought of juice makes me ill personally but for some of you this may work) or alternatively - sucking on grapes.

B6 vitamin supplements - 500 mg three times a day

Forget the prenatals for the first trimester and take straight folic acid.

Sea sickness bands can help and if you are super sick you can take Dramamine - but the regular kind, not the non-drowsey.

Hope some of those help some of you. :)

Kitty

[shannon0218]

Gravol suppositories also help out a bit and if you drink juice, cut it half and half with water--and use a low acid juice (yes currently sipping warm water with mellow apple juice--yum yum)

[Lousli]

Kitty and Shannon, sorry you're suffering so much with the m/s. That really stinks. Hopefully not too much longer until you're feeling better.

Christi, I was convinced a couple of weeks ago that things were not okay, my symptoms (what few there were) went away for a few days, and I felt fine. possibly a little tired, but it was hard to tell. I was so worried, I was actually depressed and crying. I decided to ask my mom for an u/s, and saw the heartbeat! Then, of course, all the symptoms came back, and I've been feeling sick this week.

So, if your doc or midwife is willing, I'd tell them how you feel and ask for an u/s, it will make you feel so much better.

Heve, hope your u/s is reassuring! It is hard to see much at that stage, but you should be able to see the sac.

Ambam, I really hope the move goes well. It is hard to move while pregnant, but at least you're early. Last time I was pregnant and we moved, I was able to convince dh to hire movers.

[mama2m&m]

thanks for all the tips. think i'll try a few of those. i'm having a bad day today which started as soon as i got home alst night. almost threw up on the front doorstep while my kids were fighting in the other room. :eyesroll they didn't even notice me throw everything down on the floor and race up the stairs LOL.

i'll be so glad when this part is over.

christi, :hug i hope you're able to get that u/s and that all is well.

[mehndi mama]

Ginger (if you can tolerate it) is supposed to settle the stomach - ginger beer, ginger candies, crystallized ginger, fresh gingerroot matchsticks...whatever. They make ginger lozenges for motion sickness, too.

I've been craving fresh fruit - nectarines & cantaloupe mostly. I ate 5 nectarines yesterday.

I'm having the intestinal ickies, too - I think it's just because I'm not eating worth crap - nothin' to hold it all together, and I'm gassy to boot. Burping all the time....and I NEVER burp!

I succumbed to the craving yesterday & ate an ice cream sandwich that was in the freezer calling my name :Sheepish: I'm gonna eat another one pretty soon. But I *did* just put up 14 yogurt popsicles, so those should be ready by tonight.

[Lousli]

Yogurt popsicles sound awesome. How do you make those?

[heveasoul]

Huge hugs for those feeling so horrible...knocking on wood here...so far mild queasiness and weird appetite things (ie I picked up a bunch of local organic strawberries and have had NO appetite for them...very weird for me).

Had my u/s, and she pointed out the yolk sac, and something else (duh - I'll have to get a book that lays it all out) - a small white speck within the big dark blob that was the yolk sac. Also pointed out the heartbeat - I had to take her word on that one...I couldn't discern anything...Anyway - feeling good - my bean is where it's supposed to be, doing what it's supposed to be doing... :D

[Periwinkle]

Christi :hug I think the scariest time in pregnancy is before you can feel kicking. Whenever symptoms change, it's so easy to freak out. Hang in there, and I hope everything's fine.

Heve - :banana That's called a bipole I think. A yolk sac and a bipole - how cool! And a heartbeat! :heartbeat Now you can join me in the "working on being relieved and happy and refusing to stress ANY MORE about this pregnancy" camp. ;)

[Ravenmoon]

Christi :hug

I got my betas back!They tripled.The first time they quadrupled and this time tripled.I am so relieved and feeling much more at ease.Now just to see that heartbeat!

[heveasoul]

Oh sure, now you've done it, Shannnon! I had to run out to get popsicles this afternoon! :yum

[heveasoul]

And Christi - have you requested betas or an u/s? Hope you're feeling better about it...:hug

Congrats, Ravenmoon, on the great results! you can join the "working on being relieved and happy and refusing to stress ANY MORE about this pregnancy" camp! (to quote Peri!)!!

[*Amy*]

Hey ladies! I'm so happy to hear that all of you are getting positive u/s and beta results back. Yay!! I actually had a really great prenatal clinic visit this morning...

I went in for my first nurse visit to give my medical history and let them tell me to stop smoking crack and to take folic acid. I had previously scheduled an appointment with an OB because the two new midwives on staff had not yet started taking appointments. My nurse visit went MUCH better than I had been expecting; she was very nice, and I definitely got the feeling that the staff/hospital is very natural-birth oriented, pro-breastfeeding, etc. That really put me at ease. I asked her if the birthing center has laboring pools or has done water birth, but she said, "no...we don't have a pool, but I know that you can rent them and have one brought in. You should mention it to your midwife; they would *love* to do a water birth here." :) I explained that I only had an appointment with an OB, and she said to go back to the receptionist and see if I could make an additional appointment to meet one of the midwives. I did, and she said, "sure, I'll page one of them" and I did in fact get to meet with one (without an appointment!) right after my nurses visit!

Y'all, she was so cool! I told her about my concerns with delivering the baby in a military hospital (DH is in the Navy, but we're stationed at an air force base, which is much more human than a Navy base). Anyway, she's a civilian, and she said it was odd for her to be working in an environment where everyone calls her ma'am. :) We talked for almost 30 minutes and I shared with her my feelings about breastfeeding, intervention, inducing labor, c-sections, monitoring, etc., and she was on-board with everything I said, and she seemed just as excited to have me as a patient as I am to have her as a midwife! We also talked about the water birth option, and she said that she has worked at another local hospital where they do about 5 water births per week, and she is all in favor of them. She said we may have to persuade some majors or captains or something, but that we have 8 months to do it, and that all progress is consumer-driven, so I need to be vocal about my desires (which is not a problem for me). I felt totally confident that she would push as hard as possible for me and for what DH and I want. It was great.

I left feeling about 200% better than when I walked in. I just had no idea of what kind of care I'd be getting since my choice of doctors was so limited, but I feel completely comfortable with Joanne, and now I am feeling *excited* about the whole pregnancy and birth process. :bgbounce

Oh, and when she said, "this is your first child? How do you know so much about the details?" I got to say, "have you heard of Mothering magazine?" She said, "of course, I love that magazine!" So we felt like co-conspirators against the big medical monolith of the US. She also gave me *her* reading list, which included several books I already have, such as WAB, a couple of Dr. Sears books, etc. and she said, "I hope you're not reading WTEWYE." I got to tell her no, I had it, but I traded it in for something else. (Thanks to Stell and the other ladies over on the what are you reading thread!)

So I'm just really happy, relieved, and excited. I can't wait until my first appointment with Joanne on the 27th so that DH can meet her, and we get to hear the heartbeat!

Sorry this is so long, but I just had to share all of the good vibes with everyone. :D

[ekblad9]

I'm spotting. This hasn't happened to me before. When I miscarried before it was very early on and it was alot of blood. Should I call the midwife? I'm very freaked out.

[mama2m&m]

ekblad!!!!! call your midwife! it may turn out to be nothing, but i always err on the side of caution :hug i hope everything is okay!!

i'm glad to hear the good reports today. I have one too! saw the heartbeat at the u/s. she set the dd at 2/16 which is one day before i thought. anyhoo, i think i'll use mendhi's approach and just say mid-february! now i can relax for a couple of hours LOL!

[seren]

Glad to hear all the good news! Ekblad, :hug 's I hope everything is alright!

[LianneM]

Wow, I finally got on and read the thread. There's no way I can catch up with each of you, but I'm so glad to hear the good news and I'm praying for those of you waiting for good news.

I had my first real prenatal appt yesterday at about 8 weeks. It was so fun! Well all the paperwork stuff wasn't, but I got to hear the heartbeat! :throb It was like 170 :eek What a beautiful sound. I didn't get to hear it at my u/s b/c the tech didn't turn the volume on. :eyesroll

I've thrown up 3 times now... ugh. Before I was just nauseous and even thought I wish I WOULD throw up to feel better, but I have to say it does NOT make me feel better. In fact, it pretty much puts me out of commission for the day. :( It's ok, I'm thankful. :) Sunday and Monday I felt GREAT all day and that was a little freaky. Nice to hear the heartbeat on Tuesday for reassurance.

[Ravenmoon]

Ekblad do call your midwife or go to the Er for an emergency U/S if you need some reassurance.I hope everything is allright :hug

[Periwinkle]

:hug Ekblad


:sticky :sticky :sticky :sticky :sticky :sticky

[shannon0218]

Ekblad, are you cramping as well as spotting?
I'd call your midwife, but try to relax a little and know that spotting is normal in about 50% of pregnancies.
:hug :hug :hug
Please let us know when you know anything.

[*Amy*]

I'm off to the in-laws for the holiday weekend. I hope y'all have a good one!

Ekblad, :hug I hope you are doing OK.

[shannon0218]

Ekblad, hope you're doing alright. How are things?
I'm in rough shape. The arthritis in my hip started acting up badly, I can't have it injected (which works instantly to settle it) because they need to inject it by x-ray. I tried taking my demoral but it just comes back up as soon as I swallow it. So I can't keep any liquid down, I'm horribly bored of popsicles, I'm beyond starving and I can't sleep because if I move my leg at all I wake up with pain shooting down my leg and through my pelvis. About 3:00am I was crying and puking and just generally pathetic. :( :( :( :(

[ekblad9]

Well, I called the midwife last night. She considers it a "threatened miscarriage" and gave me some tinctures to take. I really want an ultra sound. I think I'm going to call my family practice dr. today and see if he can get me in. I'm on bedrest, which really sucks but will obviously be worth it if the baby is OK. I'm feeling less and less "pregnant" though. The m/s isn't really there today but that could be because I've had so much rest. I'm not really spotting today. Mostly it's blood when I wipe in a mucousy form. Sorry for TMI I'm just so freaked out.

Thanks for listening and :hug to all.

[heveasoul]

Oh ekblad - my thoughts are with you. :hug Take care of yourself, and let someone take care of you and your little ones.

Shannon - :( :hugs for you, too. Man, to be able to sleep solidly for the next several weeks...I hope this passes soon, and you can start enjoying your pregnancy. Perhaps you need to relocate to a drier clime for a while?!

[AmBam]

Ekblad!! :hug I hope all is well with you. Take it easy and keep us posted!

Shannon! Hope you get feeling better soon. That sounds terrible!!

Hope everyone else is doing okay! I am just catching up before I start packing again!! I threw up for the first time yesterday and I must say it was NOT pleasant!! I thought it would make me feel better but.... blaahhhh!!
Anyway, have a nice day everyone!!

[HelloKitty]

Sending you lots of sticky dust Ekblad :dust

[ekblad9]

I'm going nuts waiting to hear back from the dr. I want an ultrasound so bad. I'm afraid to get my hopes up but don't want to give up altogether either. Does that make sense? I feel so completely confused. I will accept whatever the outcome is but I would like to KNOW what it is, at least for today. Thanks for all of the well wishes.

[mama2m&m]

ekblad and shannon :hug:

[Ellie'sMom]

:hug Ekblad. I hope you are getting plenty of rest. Did your mw mention taking extra Vitamin E? Is Susan Weed's Herbal for the Childbearing Year, she suggests taking up to 2000 IU per day for a threatened m/c. I did not take that much, but when I was spotting last week I took 800-1200 IU per day in addition to what is in my prenatal. I stopped spotting within a day of starting this. It could be a coincidence, but I don't think it could hurt. I am still taking 400 IU per day now. I also know what you mean about not wanting to get hopes up while not wanting to give up. For several days I managed to really let go of all expectations, and it was so liberating. I am now back to feeling hopeful, which scares the $hit out of me, because I don't want to be let down. It's a tough place to be. I hope you doc gets back to you soon.

I am totally wiped out. I am really tired. M/s is still mild, though it is more noticeable now which is reassuring. My u/s is tomorrow, and dh comes home from his trip tonight!

Kitty and Shannon: Hang in there! Can you get an injection of demerol for your hip? You need to sleep!

Lianne, Hev and Denise: Yay for the little beating hearts!!

Amy: That mw sounds awesome! It must feel great to have an ally in such a faceless monolithic system. It sounds like you will get the birth you want!

Raven: Excellent betas!

Periwinkle: Thanks for the mantra reminder. I can always use it!

So please send lots of positive vibes for the u/s tomorrow. I am terrified. It is the same place I went in Feb. and I keep having flashbacks to staring at that tiny, still image on the screen. At least I won't be alone this time (dh coming). I just reread that, and I'm sorry it's such a downer, but I just had to express this dark feeling to someone. With dh out of town I haven't been able to express my fears to anyone. Anyway, 24 hours from now I should know.

:hug to you all!

[ekblad9]

I'm starting the vit. E today and I have been doing some tinctures that the mw recommended as well. I'm so upset. Crying with worry now. How could I have ever gone through 5 pregnancies and not truly know how lucky I was to have little to no complications? I keep staring at the tiny baby stuff left out from when ds3 was a baby. I know it's making it worse and I should stop.

Good vibes for the u/s tomorrow Ellie's Mom (btw, Ellie is my niece's name and I love it! :)

[Lousli]

Ekblad, hope everything is going to be okay with you, I will keep you in my thoughts. Please let us know if you get in for an u/s.

Shannon, I'm so sorry about the arthrititis and m/s combo, it truly sounds miserable. Can you take some demerol for the pain? Is there anything besides popsicles you can keep down? I hope it gets better, I really do.

Ellie's mom, I'm sending you good u/s vibes for tomorrow.

I'm feeling kinda sickish today, so I'm going to go try and sip some mint tea now.

[shannon0218]

Unfortunately I can take the demoral, I just can't keep it down long enough to get any effect from it.

Ekblad, any news yet??

[heveasoul]

happy, joyful u/s vibes for Jenny!

:sticky vibes for Ekblad - hope the rest, tinctures and vit E help!

[Ravenmoon]

Oh Ekblad,i so know that feeling.I have had three kids with no problem and then this year i kept having miscarriages.I felt betrayed.Something has to be wrong with my body,right?What if i can't have anymore kids!This month i was prepared.I took Wild Yam capsules and False Unicorn with Cramp bark for my whole 2ww and the first week after i knew i was pregnant.I got my betas every few days and so far so good.I figured wherever i was deficient i would make up for it by taking all of these supplements.

I so hope your U/S turns out well. :hug

Today i sent my lil girl off on a plane for MI. :crying :crying
She went with her dad to visit some grandparents and it is always hard to let go like that.She's only 6 now so i am going to really be sad when she is 18!

In for more betas today.I hope they keep going up.

[Ravenmoon]

Oh and Shannon,i feel for you girl.Do you ever take homeopathic arnica?Let me see what else i can find for arthritis.

[shannon0218]

I have taken it, it doesn't do a whole lot for rhuematoid, but it does help with the osteo in my knees.

[ekblad9]

OK, I've been continueing with the herbs/vitamins and have an u/s scheduled for tomorrow afternoon. My family dr. is calling in progestrine (sp?) for me. Is this a good thing? I need to research it, I guess. Will it make me sick. Not that I care if it saves the baby I just want to know. I'm still freaking out. :(

[Ravenmoon]

No it is a good thing.But they shouldn't give it to you until they see what is going on and they should check your levels.From what i have heard Dr's routinely prescribe it now without checking.It may make you nauseous but nothing you aren't use to.Continue with your herbs also.

[shannon0218]

Progesterone will not do any harm. Levels flucuate so drastically that even blood results are not terribly reliable. Mine for instance can go from 12 to 36 in a matter of days with no rhyme or reason--36 is fine--12 is absolutely not. It can increase your morning sickness and make constipation worse, but no damage to mom or baby. Oh and it does cause headaches for me.

[ekblad9]

OK, Plan B is happening. I called my OB from before. I know I'm bad :nono but I just can't wait to know what's going on. So I'm going in there in about an hour. They're going to do an ultrasound there. I'm so nervous I feel like I could puke. I hope that's a good sign. I'll keep you posted and thank you all again. :hug

[Ellie'sMom]

Ekblad: Feel no guilt about calling the OB. Do what you have to to feel reassured. Though I'm planning a homebirth I am going to my old mws at the birthcenter for now, simply because they can order betas, and u/s and such. No harm. No foul. (I actually have no idea what that means, but it seems appropriate :eyesroll )

Sending you tons of :sticky vibes!! Let us know.

[shannon0218]

OK, Plan B is happening. I called my OB from before. I know I'm bad :nono but I just can't wait to know what's going on. So I'm going in there in about an hour. They're going to do an ultrasound there. I'm so nervous I feel like I could puke. I hope that's a good sign. I'll keep you posted and thank you all again. :hug

Oh I'm so glad--and hey, do what you gotta do!!!! Don't feel guilty!!

[Ravenmoon]

Ekblad :hug

[Periwinkle]

Ekblad :hug

:fingersx: :sticky

Please let us know as soon as you hear anything.

[Lousli]

Ekblad, any news?

[ekblad9]

I'm back! And the saw a strong :heartbeat I'm 6wks 2 days according to the u/s. So that makes my due date Feb 25 which is way closer to what I thought it was. Anyway, it was such a relief! Now just lots of rest for me. Hope you're all doing well and thank you SO much for getting me through this!

[LianneM]

HOORAY!!!! :heartbeat :bgbounce :sticky

[Ravenmoon]

Oh thank goodness!I was thinking of you all day! :love

[mama2m&m]

excellent ekblad!!!!!!!!!!!! woohoo!

[Ellie'sMom]

Yay Ekblad!!!!!! That is sooo good to hear. I was sending sticky vibes all day!

OK you all. After no spotting for over a week and a half I had some brownish cm tonight. More than anything it makes me feel :irked: . I just want to tell the fates, "Stop yankin' my chain already!" Thank goodness the u/s is tomorrow.

Before I go staighten up in anticipation of Dh's arrival (woohoo), I just need to say what a terrific group of women you are. I want to stay pregnant for lots of reasons of course, but part of it is wanting to share this journey with you 2/05 mamas.

:love

[Periwinkle]

Ekblad! :heartbeat :banana

Jenny :hug We want YOU to stick around too! Best of luck tomorrow!

[HydeParkB]

Well, I could use some good vibes, if there are any left. I've had the slightest bit of spotting the last two days, and my doctor's office is having me come in for a sonagram tomorrow.

I'm hopeful, but worried. The most frustrating part has been getting a live person at the OB's office. Their practice has really grown, and the staff isn't quite able to keep up with it.

Crossing my fingers for good news tomorrow.

[heveasoul]

:sticky :sticky :sticky :sticky :sticky HydeParkB and Jenny!!

[seren]

ekblad, glad things are looking good.

Hope all things go well on the ultrasounds tomorrow.

I had my own scare today. I'm a very big worrier. Well, today I had to take my sister to the ER and I ran out of gas after dropping her and my mom off. I was on my way to the gas station. I was with a friend. She started pushing and I HAD to get out and help. We had at least 20 cars pass us before someone stopped to help, two guys rode behind us honking and laughing.. We pushed the car by ourselves for almost 3 blocks. Then two really nice men stopped and pushes us the rest of the way, somewhere between 1/4-1/2 mile. Well, by the time we got gas and were on our way I was feeling something weird in my abdomen. Not pain, excatly, but a kinda pressure. So I called my midwife and she said I should be okay and what to watch out for. So, I'm still a bit freaked. My stomach quit hurting after about an hour, but is starting up again. Hopefully it's just ligament pain. I'm gonna go to bed now, get some rest and hope it gets better.

[ekblad9]

:hug to everyone and sticky vibes to the ultrasounders today. Let us know ASAP if everything is OK. Sounds like with the amount of us spotting around this time it may actually be somewhat normal? I had never spotted before. Anyway, I'm still laying around, basically, afraid to do too much. My house is disgusting and the kids are out of control. :nut Hopefully I can keep them busy today!

[ekblad9]

I wanted to add that Wild Yam Root is awesome for m/s. I put it in my concoction to avoid miscarriage and then I stopped having m/s. Well, that freaked me out because I assumed that I wasn't pg anymore. Then when everything was OK with baby I looked up wild yam root and it is used to ease m/s. It worked great for me so far! :)

[wtchyhlr]

WOOHOO Ekblad! And good to know on wild yam. Thats interesting.
I actually woke up today feeling better than I've felt since I got the BFP. Which is a little disconcerting. My boobs aren't quite as sore, and I'm not quite as queasy. Today is my 8 week mark, and I thought all that didn't get "better" until around 12 weeks. But I haven't had any spotting at all, and no cramping at all, so I'm assuming the baby is giving me a rest today. :)

Joy

[tug]

yeah for elkblad and, seren, i hope everything is fine and that you are feeling better today? stop pushing cars! :)

i had an u/s yesterday and the little one is looking good at 1.16 cms and has a strong heartbeat! Yeah! Picture here:
http://www.loyno.edu/~jmguill/Journal/index.php

Horrible m/s this morning, but had a prego pop and that really helped. wow! i actually got the pop with my bag o' goodies for preggy women from the doctor. i was really impressed. a local merchant is giving them for those bags. much more useful than the stupid paper dipes and formula coupons!!!

woohoo!!

[Ellie'sMom]

Hi all. Wish I had good news. There was no heartbeat. Looks like everything stopped sometime last week.

I am numb, angry and sad. I think I will be taking a little time away from MDC. Need to get my head together.

Thanks for all the support.

[mama2m&m]

oh jenny, i'm so sorry. :bawl :crying I don't know what to say except my thoughts and prayers are with you. Take all the time you need. You always have a shoulder here. :hug:

[Ravenmoon]

Jenny :hug i'm so sorry.So,so sorry.There are some great women in the pregnancy loss forum if you feel like you need some additional love and support.

Hydespark i hope you are feeling better :hug

Seren i am sure you pulled some muscles in that area and no pushing cars :nono

Hello to everyone,Ekblad keep taking it easy.That is why i am taking Wild Yam.It helps with queasiness and cramping!

[Ravenmoon]

Tug~ yay on that heartbeat!

[wtchyhlr]

Jenny, I'm so sorry.

[seren]

:hug Jenny! I'm so sorry! My thoughts are with you!


My stomach doesn't hurt anymore today. Next time I think I'll just sit in the middle of the road until someone stops to help.

[Boobs]

Jenny. I'm so sorry. I wish words could make it better. :hug


I don't have much to throw in here. Everything is going pretty normally from what I can tell. M/S does seem to be getting a little better. Hopefully it has peaked and I'm almost over it.
I'll have an ultrasound on Tuesday and meet with the ob on Wednesday. I'm only going to an ob to get my cervix checked out. I have HPV I haven't tended to in over two years. I can't wait to only need my midwife. Just being around an ob makes me nervous.

Anyway, I got my preggie pops and I can't eat them. :irked: They taste like scented candles to me. Anybody want them?? PM me and I'll send them to you. No charge. I'd hate for them to go to waste.

[HydeParkB]

Jenny, so sorry to hear about your loss. I'm sending you healing thoughts.




Everyone else, thanks for the concern and good wishes. My ultrasound went well. Everything seems normal, plus no spotting today. The OB's office redrew my blood (1st batch got messed up somehow), and they are check for RH factor.

I'm glad I don't have to spend my weekend worrying.

[shannon0218]

Ah Jenny, I'm so sorry. Please yell if you need anything. :hug
Congrats to Ekblad.
I however am in the hospital, they admitted me yesterday afternoon. My electrolytes are completely out of wack and even today after constant fluids, I still am dehydrated. I was obviously worse than I realized. It took them forever to get an IV started as all my veins were collapsed. They will be keeping me until at least tomorrrow afternoon. I'm bored and tired, but at least they can give me IV demoral for the pain in my stupid hip.
I just keep telling myself--I've never been this sick before--I've never been this sick before.
:hug to everyone

[Periwinkle]

Oh no.

:hug to Jenny. I am so very sorry

:hug too to Shannon - that sounds awful; I hope everything is OK with you and the babe.

[ekblad9]

I'm so sorry Jenny. :(

[ekblad9]

Yesterday when I went for the u/s I went to the OB. Anyway, she recommended unisom for m/s? Anyone ever heard of that before? I'm desperate enough to try just about anything.

[Lousli]

Jenny, I'm so sorry. I wish I had words. I hope you are getting the support you need right now.

Shannon, I'm worried about you! Take care of yourself! Hopefully you will feel less sick in the second trimester, even with HG, right? How long will you be in the hospital for?

[shannon0218]

I should be out tomorrow afternoon, I've now kept down lunch and dinner. Just got my potasium level back and while it's not normal yet, it's moving up so things are going in the right direction.
One of the nurses was just in and commenting that she was surprised I was taking all of this so well--she said I didn't strike her as someone who "wants" to be in hospita. I told her that after 3 miscarriages I'm just thrilled to 1) Be still pregnant at this stage and 2) Be so very sick as it's different from any of my other pregnancies.
I have to say, I am SOOOOO impressed with my OB and the entire OB dept at my little wee local hospital. With my health history I've spent more than my fair share of time in hosptals and I have NEVER been treated so well or felt so confident in my care.
Another thing--I was in a labor room yesterday before they knew they were going to keep and on the wall there were posters showing the "best" way to labor efficiently and they showed, sqatting, kneeling etc and at the bottom it said that on your back is the least efficent way and should only be used if mom is exhausted or if there is an emergency where the doc would need to get at baby's head fast. There was another poster on drug free pain relief and on the bulletin board there are newsletters that are pro co-sleeping and very against formula feeding. I've also not seen one thing here regarding formula. Oh and isn't this cute, everytime a baby is born they play a lullaby over the PA system--how cool is that??

[TexasSuz]

Jenny, I am so sorry for your loss. Take care of yourself. You will be in my prayers.

[TexasSuz]

I started on Zofran yesterday. I had just been getting sicker and sicker and did not want to let it get really bad like last time. It has helped me eat more but I still have pain in my stomach. I am so tired of feeling bad.

Dh is doing everything for ds! I feel like the worst mom in the world because he now goes right to daddy if he needs something. I am lucky to have such a good Dh but I want to be the mommy again!

Going to the ob on Wednesday. They are doing a pap. Anyone else had one done during pregnancy? I don't remember having one last time. I really don't want one. Should I worry?

Shannon - what do they give you in the hospital? I would gladly go in if I knew it would help me get back to normal again. I am in bed most all of the day now.

[shannon0218]

Suz, I'm on IV fluids (I was severely dehydrated) and IV gravol--stemitil if I need it but the gravol seems to help just fine as long as it's IV. Are you keeping fluids down? That was my turning point, all was fairly ok until my popsicles started coming back up on me. I have diclectin (I'm in Canada) but of course I can't keep it down so it's not doing much good.
As for the pap, have you had one recently?? My OB told me to refuse one from the fertility clinic doctor--but I had had one in the past year.

[mama2m&m]

shannon, hope you're feeling better soon. i think i might come deliver in your neck ofthe woods lol! i really like my doctor but the hospitals around here leave a lot to be desired.

suz, i got one this time because she was doing some other tests. i didn't get one last pg because i'd just had one. now i won't have to get another til after the baby is born. the ironic thing is i didn't have to have any bloodwork done because the bloodwork i had done when i got pg last time was still good. although i'd rather get stuck than a pelvic. that speculum was so cold it made me ache. not a pleasant feeling.

we'll we're off to spend the night in a camper with my folks. not exactly looking forward to that but the kids will ahve a good time. enjoy your 4th everyone and happy belated canada day to you northerners! :)

[shannon0218]

I was thinking--cause I seem to have a lot of time on my hands sitting in this damn bed. The pregnant lady smilie--why must she have a bow in her hair--how many of us in real life where a big pink bow 1/2 the size of our head???? I know I don't speak for everyone, but I tend to be alittle "butch" IYKWIM. I mean there are bows everywhere, the knitting one, the dishes one, the laundry one. Like unless you're a girly girl you don't do these things......
Ok, rant over......just some of the things that make me go hmmmmmmmm

[Boobs]

Shannon, you have way too much time on your hands! :LOL Remember how popular those huge bows were in the 80's?? Would you believe my mil still wears one sometimes!? :laugh: It's really hard not to say something to her cause it looks so silly.
Your hospital sounds awesome. Is anybody staying with you to keep you company? There's nothing on tv this weekend here since it's a holiday weekend.

My m/s is definitely getting a little better every day. I'm taking the old man I take care of out to eat for lunch and a meal actually sounds really good. I haven't eaten anything healthy in like 2 weeks and I feel like it!


Anybody else so swollen that you look like you're showing?? I've had a gut since I had dd, but I look like I'm 4 months along right now. I can't hold it in. I know it's not baby, but sure does look and feel like it. Weird.

[shannon0218]

Yeah I do have too much time on my hands. Steve is here with me quite a bit but as it's a holiday weekend here too, I have a full house of dogs at home that he has to look after.
My MIL wears these gross flip flops with HUGE flowers on him--talk aobut stupid looking!
I'm not showing yet, but in spite of loosing so much weight my waist bands on my pants are definitely tight.

[weesej]

Hugs to you Shannon! I have survived HG 3 times without any treatment. Everyone blew me off in spite of loosing 30 lbs and vomiting my own spit and also vomiting blood. I am so glad you have gotten good treatment! This pregnancy is pregnancy #6 and the nausea is worse than the last 2, but its not HG like the first 3, so no complaints. We will survive:)

Has anyone else heard of the electric stim seabands, they are supposed to help chemo patients. I really want to try them.

[shannon0218]

Wow, I've never been blown off, I just got a lecture not to let it get so bad next time, told me if I was even having trouble eating to at least come in for a shot of gravol so I can keep at least one meal a day down, but that if I can't keep down fluids, I'm to call her so she can arrange home care.

[seren]

Shannon, glad you are feeling better. Hope you can go home soon.

Suz, I did have pap's at both of my first visits with my previous pregnancies. This time I won't, but only because I got one last month before I knew I was pregnant. I was only one or two weeks, not enough for them to be able to tell.

[ekblad9]

I had the electronic sea band thingy (I think it's officially called the Relief band) worked OK with baby 4 but not at all the last two times. I took the
b-6 and Unisom last night :bag: I know, I'm awful. I just felt so desperate. I feel like garbage, my kids were totally fending for themselves. Anyway, it worked like a charm. I hope my baby isn't born with two heads. I was actually able to eat some decent food this morning including fruit which has made me :Puke since sometime last week.

[shannon0218]

Ekblad, b6 and Unisom has been approved here for pregnant women as diclectin for ages. I don't think that there is much disagreement that the law suit that took it off the market in the states was bogus.
If you go onto Motherrisk's website check out diclectin--they are considered a world authority on drug safety during pregnancy.

[ekblad9]

:hug Thank you so much for that! I researched some on the web. I just felt like I needed something and if this worked it would really be worth it. It is working and I feel somwhate normal again.

Hang in there! :)

[lasofia]

Hi, I'm new here - due feb 2, 2005 with my second.

It seems like there's a lot of extreme morning sickness going around! I had it bad with my first, but was somewhat ignorant of how unusual it was, and suffered through (I did not lose weight in my second trimester). This time it started ramping up again a few weeks ago and I started acupuncture and the herbs the acupuncturist gave me. It helped for a little, and then it got worse. When I was throwing up 10 times + a day, I went to a doctor (I use a midwife). He gave me unisom (ekblad!) and vitamin B6 and then added Reglan when that didn't work.

The combo did help - was throwing up about 3 times a day - but was very, very sedating.

I'm so, so eager for the second trimester, when this should ease...
and I know what some others mean about feeling like a terrible mom. My mother is in town and has been amazing, otherwise I have no idea what we would have done.

[ekblad9]

The OB gave me Reglan too but I figured I would try the unisom mix first. I feel alright right now and it didn't knock me out last night like I thought it would. I'm nervous it's going to wear off, though. They didn't tell me how often I could take the unisom but am assuming only once/day.

[shannon0218]

Ekblad, you can take a large dose before bed and a dose in the morning and a dose in the early afternoon. You have to get a "level" in your system if it's going to keep working. This is my problem, it works until I start to puke, then it wears off and I can't keep anything down.

[Ravenmoon]

I'm glad my sickness isn't that bad.Dizziness and nausea i can handle.

I already had to buy some maternity shirts.My belly is out already and my other shirts were riding up.I've had 3 kids in 6 years so my belly was ready!

I've been feeling very crampy since yesterday and that makes me so nervous.No spotting or anything just crampy.I hate cramps!I hope they go away ASAP.

I had to push my U/S up to the 18th because we will be out of town camping.

We are heading to Big Sur for a camping trip on Tuesday and will be gone for the week.I so look forward to camping while pregnant :eyesroll but i get to meet some moms from an AP website i belong to.

[ekblad9]

Ekblad, you can take a large dose before bed and a dose in the morning and a dose in the early afternoon. You have to get a "level" in your system if it's going to keep working. This is my problem, it works until I start to puke, then it wears off and I can't keep anything down.

OK, I know you're not a doc so won't hold you to anything :LOL but Is it hte same for Unisom? It's 25 mg.

[ella-makes-3]

Hello ladies, Jasmine here. Just went for my midwife appt yesterday, and found out I am 8 weeks, so thought I'd come and say hi!!

This is my second pregnancy, we have an eighteen month old girl, and can't wait to meet the newest addition to our family, the estimated dd is Feb 11th, but got to look closley at the calendar to figure a "few" key dates out!!

We plan to use the same birthing center as we did for our first, if all goes according to plan. I 'm really interested in hypno birthing. A couple of friends have had great , reduced pain deliveries, so maybe I will give it a try. Any thoughts on that?
Well great to meet you all, this seems lika a pretty active thread!!

[shannon0218]

Hi Jasmine--both Heveasoul and I plan to use hypno-birthing. There is a hypnobabies web site you can join, have you seen it?

[Lousli]

I want to do hypnobirthing too! It is either that, or bradley, and I might end up trying both. I was pretty disappointed with myself for getting an epidural last time around, and since we only want 2, this is my last chance to go natural!

[ekblad9]

I would really like to try hypno birthing too. Is it good for homebirth?

Amy (who likes to take drugs while pg but wants a natural homebirth :LOL )

[lasofia]

OK, I know you're not a doc so won't hold you to anything :LOL but Is it hte same for Unisom? It's 25 mg.

My doc told me to take either 1 or 1/2 tablet 25 mg Unisom with 25 mg B6 3 times a day. He said if I were really struggling I could take it 4 times. I ended up taking 1 when I woke up, then 1/2 in the afternoon, 1/2 in the early evening and then 1/2 before bed.

[Kelly1216]

You can take my name of the due date list, we lost the baby last week, so it back to the TTC boards in a while.
I wish the rest of you good luck in your pregnancies

[shannon0218]

I'm so sorry Kelly :hug :hug
There is nothing worse. Please take good care of yourself right now, drink lots of fluids and rest up. If you need anything let me know.

[happymamajenni]

Geeze you guys have been busy! I haven't been online for a couple days and now there's a new thread with over 140 replies. It'll take me all night to catch up! :)
I met one of the OB's in my practice at my first appt. on Tuesday and I really like her! Now one down and 5 or 6 to go. I really hope I like or at least can tolerate the rest of them!

Kelly,
I don't know you, and I can't even imagine what you are going through, but I am praying for you!

[shannon0218]

Wow, where is everyone??
Well, after all the problems I've been through with past pregnancies I honestly thought I'd never get to this stage, but I've had it, and I'm having a whole lot of trouble coping mentally. I had to go back to the hospital last night as when the home care nurse arrived, the new IV that took an hour to even get in had blown. I called my doc and she set up for me to back into labour & delivery to get a new one. When I got there they told me it would be a little bit as they just had a c-section (1st one in the 4 days I was there inspite of 14 babies being born) and baby was not doing well. After a 1/2 hour they sent me to emerg as baby was really not doing well. The first nurse tried 3 times, second nurse tried 2 times and got it on the third, by the time the second nurse was working on me I was laying there with tears running down my face. I felt bad as she thought she was hurting me--which she was but that had nothing to do with my tears. I think I just hit the end of my rope, I've been crying off and on ever since. I have this overwelming fear that I could be this sick and have no payoff in the end but more pain. I have the fear that there is simply no way I will be able to cope with another loss, especially at a point when my body and mind is just SO depleted.
I feel silly, I mean I've said a hundred times I'd never complain about pregnancy symptoms but I just can't cope anymore, I"m just too tired.
Sorry to be such a downer.

[ekblad9]

Shannon :hug Hang in there sweetie! You're going through so much right now. I've always felt joy for being pregnant and then overwhelmed much of the way through the pregnancy. I haven't experienced the many miscarriages that you have so I can't speak there. I can only say that you are being so strong about all of this. Being a mom is not easy. From the very beginning, eh? I have to run as the toddler is pounding the keyboard. More later. :hearts You're in my prayers.

[Lousli]

Oh Shannon, I'm so sorry. I can't imagine how hard this is for you right now. I really hope things improve for you over the next few weeks as you get closer to the second trimester, both physically and emotionally. I just wish there was something we could do to help. Let us know if we can be anything more than a shoulder to lean on. I hope you're felling better today.

[Boobs]

:hug Shannon!

:hug Kelly. I'm so sorry for your loss. I just can't imagine.



Hope those of you in the US have a great 4th!

[wtchyhlr]

OH Shannon, hang in there. I so hope that this morning sickness lifts soon for you. Any chance of relocating somehwere non humid for a few months?

[shannon0218]

I've thought of going back to Calgary, but I don't want to be away from my doc.

[heveasoul]

Kelly, I'm so sorry for your loss. :hug Take care of yourself.

Shannon, so sorry you're feeling so miserable. I hope this passes soon. :hug

Nothing new here....it's been a very busy time, and now I am so pooped, so I think I'm going to hang out on the couch, then soon to bed...

[shannon0218]

Would someone like to do the thread for this coming week??
I would do it again but I just don't want to commit to anything right now with my health. That and I have to type with one hand. :irked:

[ekblad9]

I'll do the new thread tomorrow.

Doing OK here. My stomach is killing me. Not sure what's up. Take care everyone.

[mama2m&m]

i'll take care of it shannon! i'll start a new thread in the am and hope that you're feeling better soon. :hug: it seems like the longest haul ever but once you get over the hump it's so much better! take care :hug

[shannon0218]

i'll take care of it shannon! i'll start a new thread in the am and hope that you're feeling better soon. :hug: it seems like the longest haul ever but once you get over the hump it's so much better! take care :hug

Amy, Denise may as well do since you did it this week.
Thanks guys!!

[ekblad9]

:thumb

Are you home now Shannon? How are you doing?

[shannon0218]

Home now, only threw up once this evening. So tired and still not all that good mentally. I just fear that as soon as we stop the IV everything will go back to really bad, then what??

[ekblad9]

Oh my goodness, hang in there. You'll be mother of the year in my book for a long time! :)

[shannon0218]

Thanks :love

[mama2m&m]

shannon - thinking of you! hope everyone else is doing okay. each day brings us closer to getting past the sickies!

please join us on the new thread:

http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?p=1697481#post1697481