February Mamas: Week of July 5 - 11

[mama2m&m]

Hope everyone in Canada and the USA enjoyed your recent holidays! Please PM me with any additions, changes or updates! Belly rubs to all :)


Kater07 February
Chiku due Feb 1 birthing center
Parker'smommy (Heather) due Feb 1
Lisashepp (Lisa) due Feb 1
Sadkitty. Due Feb 1st
Dandylion (Stephanie) due Feb 2
Truvie due Feb 2
PeacefulVegan (who also answers to Tracie) due Feb 3
Lou due Feb 3
Twin Mom (Deb) Due Feb 4, VBA2C homebirth
Free Thinker (Mandy) due Feb 5
HelloKitty (Kitty) due Feb 6
Letabug (Arleta) due Feb 6
LianneM due Feb 7 homebirth
TexasSuz (Susan) due Feb 7
Happymamajenni (Jenni) due Feb 7 hospital/OBGYN
LesleyLuu (Lesley) due Feb 7
DeirdreAlison (Deirdre) due 1st week Feb homebirth, maybe waterbirth
New Life Due Feb 8
Shannon 0218- due Feb 11 hospital birth with great OB
ella-makes-3 (Jasmine) - due ~ Feb. 11 midwife/natural birth at birth center
Tug due Feb 12
Firefly due Feb 13
Christi due Feb 14 hospital birth with fab OB
Periwinkle (Karen) due Feb 14
Fairymomma (Pamela) due Feb 14
Jorie (Margorie) due Feb 14
AmBam (Amber) due Feb 14 homebirth
Wtchyhlr (Joy) due Feb 14
Seren (Serenity) due Feb 16 birthing center/waterbirth
rose angel (Karen) due Feb 16
mama2m&m (Denise) due Feb 16
HydeParkB due Feb 17
Karennnnn (Karen) due Feb 17
Coopsmama (Kristen) Due Feb 17
Shyly (Monica) Due Feb 17
weesej (Jen) Due Feb 19 homebirth
mehndimama (Stell) due Feb 22 unassisted homebirth
*Amy* (Amy) due Feb 20 birthing center/possible water birth...?
heveasoul due Feb 24
Ekblad7 due Feb 28

thinking of you Jenny. :hug

[ekblad9]

:wave Just subscribing! :)

[shannon0218]

Subscribing. Still feeling like hell. Entirely too depressed to be happy about being pregnant but not sure what to do about it. Have thrown up twice this morning after making it all the way through yesterday only throwing up just before bed. Who knows.

[heveasoul]

:hug Shannon. Don't beat yourself up about not rejoicing right now. It's ok to complain here. You will feel better, and soon this will all be just a memory, then the fun can begin, k?!

Thanks for looking after the thread, Denise!

Threw up for the first time this am - it was the smell of dh's coffee that set me off...

Today I go for the beta I was meant to have done last week, and I guess my OB should be calling about last Wed's u/s.

[weesej]

Just subscribing also. Hope everyone is doing good.

Shannon, hang in there. It is ok and normal to have doubts and reservations when you are so so sick. You know how much you love this baby---being this ill is awful and the lowest point for even the best of us. You will survive it!! Try to keep a positive attitude. When you begin to get nauseated think--"I just feel bad it will stay put"....don't think "I'm gonna get sick" Eat again after you get sick. Never go more than 2 hours without eating protien..Protein-carb combos are best. Apples and cheese, carrots and peanut butter, beans and rice, etc Ice cream with granola :D Ice cream is a good thing with HG---if it comes back up it is nearly as good as on the way down (Awful I know, but some things are terrible when they come back up and with HG you don't take a bite without considering how it will feel) Set your alarm at night and eat, keep a protien bar next to the bed or have DH get up and make whatever sound ok at the moment, Lucky Charms always helpded me for whatever reason.

You have so much stress during this pregnancy after 3 losses and then family pressure and getting married don't discount the way stress can effect our body. My first HG was an unplanned pregnancy and I got married I was young and scared, didn't want to be pregnant or sick and HG was how my body expressed it. I miscarried that baby and then had HG for #2, I was due on the same day exactly 1 year later and had a huge amount of stress associated with it. #3 I had a 5 month old and had just moved 8 hours away from all my family support--lots of stress again. I know this is a very wanted baby for you Shannon, but there is also alot of fear after the losses, let it all out express it to anyone who will listen, cry, scream, etc, write thier stories if you haven't, allow yourself time and space to have this fear. My prayers are with you. :hugs

[Boobs]

Morning!

I'm sorry, but what is HG?? I know I should know by now. :innocent
Oh, and while I'm wondering about abbreviations, what is nak???

Hang in there, Shannon! It's gotta get easier.

I'm getting really excited about tomorrow. I'm having my ultrasound and if I have counted correctly, I will be at 10 weeks. I just can't wait to see that little heartbeat! :love DH and dd are going with me. I think that'll help reality sink in for all of us.

[Lousli]

Oh Shannon, don't worry about complaining. You sound so sick, I'm sure I would be bitching up a storm!

I have a question for you folks. I'll be 9 weeks tomorrow, and this is my second. I've heard you "show" earlier with #2. I have a little belly when I wake up in the morning, hardly noticeable to be honest, unless you know me. But as the day progresses, it is like every meal I eat has nowhere to go, and by 8 PM I look like I'm 5 months pregnant! Is this happening to anyone else? I feel like in the morning I can still wear my normal clothes, but by night time I need maternity.

Speaking of which, I'm trying to decide what to do about the upcoming weeks. My dh and I are pretty broke right now, and I'm on break from work, so it doesn't matter what I wear. However, I go back to work July 21st, and I have to dress fairly nicely. Some people say "buy bigger sizes of normal clothes, and you can wear them after" but really I can't because after I won't be working for a couple of months, so I will dress in comfy clothes, not work clothes, and then when I go back to work again, it won't be the dead of summer, so I probably won't be wearing the same clothes. I also am super short, so a size 6 or 8 will be a mile too long, even if it fits in the belly.

I'm frustrated, because I'm going to need 2 seasons of maternity clothes ($$!!!), summer and early fall, and then late fall and winter. There is no way I can make it through summer (I think) with what is in my closet now. Fortunately i have a friend who will lend me some of her winter clothes.

Sorry to complain, but I'm just in that in-between part where I look pudgy, not pregnant. I'll be glad to look pregnant when it comes.

What do you all think of dopplers for home use? I know many people are worried about the possible risks of ultrasound technology. Do you think the reassurance outweighs that? I'm kind of thinking about renting one...but then I waver on it.

[Boobs]

Lesley, if I were you, I would try to borrow from friends or family as much as you can. If that's not an option, check out some secondhand stores.
I'm in the same boat, kinda. I'm totally showing and my clothes aren't fitting, but I have two trips coming up that I need to look nice for. Not quite ready for maternity clothes though.
I also have to go to court for a custody thing and I don't want to buy something to wear once.
Wanna hear something really scary??? I have to fit into a bridesmaid dress in August!!! :duh :trollicon :crap :huh :O It's still at the alterers. I'm pretty sure it's going to have to have some emergency alterations at the wedding site. Nice. I didn't think I would be showing this early.

[Ravenmoon]

Personally with my second kid i didn't show until i was like 6 months.This time i gained weight during my two miscarriages(depressed and horomones)and now that i am pregnant i easily pass for 5 months,even in the morning.I don't mind but i just hope people think i'm pregnant and haven't just gained a bunch of weight :eyesroll

Oh a bridesmaid,i feel for you!

Shannon i hope you feel better soon,that must be so hard.At least you know that is one healthy baby!

[seren]

subscribing.

You can get maternity clothes on ebay fairly cheap.

[Periwinkle]

Maternity clothes! I totally relate. I actually haven't gained any weight (lost 2 lbs in fact, due to queasies/food aversions) but I have a little potbelly below my navel that's solid as a rock! (and it's not abs of steel either! LOL) I know my twin pregnancy stretched out my stomach muscles but this is silly... I'm starting my 9th week tomorrow and I KNOW I'll need maternity clothes by the end of my 1st trimester. My pants are still buttoning, it's not that -- it's just soooo uncomfortable to have that pressure on my belly. As much as I hated those giant panel maternity pants, I'm positively craving the relief they bring.

OK, let's talk hunger. Starvation is more like it. I've been trying really hard to eat very healthy foods (lots of fruits, veggies, healthy protein..) but no matter how much I eat or what I eat, 2-3 hours later (at MOST) I'm starving like I just ran the Boston marathon. I've been pretty good about toting snacks around with me (I have a bag of roasted sunflower seeds I bring with me wherever I go, and WF has organic apricots in now, and they're so snackable and portable too). Last night at the beach, we ate a big seafood dinner around 6:00 -- a giant but tender filet of grilled rockfish (striped bass), a corn on the cob with butter, local tomatoes with fresh mozzarella... :yum HUGE family dinner - we were all stuffed. Then there I was at 9:30 like I'd never eaten, stark raving mad with hunger. :D So I indulged my ice cream craving and had a cup of Cherry Garcia (my favorite) while we watched fireworks. (I could have had another.)

Off to eat supper (dh is cooking steaks on the grill!! YES!) :bolt

[Boobs]

I'm so jealous, periwinkle! I can't wait to be able to eat real food again. I have no appetite. Everything grosses me out.



:OT I just ventured out to the other side. A mainstream board. :eek It was really really really really scary. I think I'll stay here where it's safe! :hide:

[wtchyhlr]

MMMM Food. I'm mostly past the queasies, I think, tho its a bit disconcerting to think that. I'm 8 1/2 weeks right now. I have actually felt like cooking the last couple of days, for the first time all month. I made us steak pinwheels (with spinach/arugula pesto and roasted red bel peppers) for dinner, and they were heavenly.

Went to my energy work appointment this morning. My Shaman says this baby is very happy and i'm going to be a glow-er in a few weeks. (now thats something I couldn't/wouldn't put on a mainstream board).

thinking of you ladies who are still really sick, especially you Shannon....

Joy

[Ravenmoon]

Yes i am starving also.All the time.But lots of things make me sick but i still eat anyhow.

Ok,i'm off to Big Sur to go camping.I'll be back next week!

[Ellie'sMom]

Hi all. I just wanted to check in and let you know that I am doing ok. After a failed attempt to induce the m/c with cytotec, I had a d&c this afternoon. The ob was great. It was over in literally 2 minutes.

I am feeling surprisingly ok. I think there is a strong dose of denial, but it's serving me well right now.

Thanks again for all the support. I am feeling hopeful about the future.

:hug to you all and some extra ones for Shannon. I hope you feel better soon!

For those of you who still hang out in TTC, I'll probably make my way over there soon. Will be waiting to be ready for a bit, but I'll start charting as soon as AF shows up. The ob today also thought it was a great idea for me to at least talk to the RE there who specializes in recurrent pg loss. It will take a month or 2 to get in, but I'd love to have some charts for her.

Denise, can you take me off the list?

OK. I am sure I will lurk occasionally to see how you all are doing. I know in my heart that we will all be holding our babies soon. I'll just be a couple of months behind you guys
:) .

[Ravenmoon]

(((Jenny))) You have so much strength in your words.I really admire how well you seem to be handling this.I know how hard it is.Take care of yourself and allow some healing time.(although i know right after a miscarriage is your most fertile,hence my pregnancy) :hug

[mama2m&m]

jenny, i've been thinking of you. take good care of yourself and heal while you await the return of af. i hope to see you on the pg boards again soon. :hug sweetie!

[*Amy*]

Jenny, your message gave me goosebumps and tears in my eyes. I am so sorry about your loss, and I will miss seeing you on the forum. :crying Shannon, I'm glad you are still hanging in there. My thoughts are with both of you.

I'm still doing strangely fine. No throwing up at all, but yesterday my nausea was at its worst. I feel sluggish and unmotivated all the time. I will not complain, however; I know I have it easy compared to most of y'all. I can still eat just about everything, though my appetite is much less than usual. I'm the opposite of you, Periwinkle: I eat and feel full (almost uncomfortably full) for hours. It's very unlike me.

I too have a little pooch in the evening and my clothes are feeling a little snug in the tummy. No one other than myself and my husband would be able to see the difference, though. I think it's going to be a couple of months until I need maternity clothes, but I might buy some shorts in the next size up to get through until I start teaching in September.

OK, this is a random question, but is anyone else losing hair? It seems like when I wash my hair, much more is coming out than I remember before pregnancy. It's kind of freaky.

God, I am SO jealous of those of you who have had u/s and have heard your babies' heartbeats!!! Last week I changed from OB to midwife, so I had to reschedule for July 27. I don't want to wait 3 more weeks! :angry

[tug]

subscribing.

i'm with all of you who are queasy all the time but starving too. It's like when i was teaching and a five year old came up to me while he was drinking and said, "Ms. Urban, this stuff is YUCKY but it's kind of good too!"

Jenny, thanks for coming back and sending wishes, i've been thinking of you and sending you lots of wishes and strength.

my back is killing me today. what's with that? the pooch isn't that big yet...

:)

thing about the ultrasound is that it is great to see it and then you move on to the next worry. it's kind of like elkblad said, there's always something you can worry about so in a way, you just can't worry.

hoping for the best...

[Christi]

Hi all
First I would like to thank everyone for your support during my negative thoughts. My preg symptoms came back in full force a couple of days later.

Jenny I'm glad you checked in with us. I'm so sorry you are going through this I hope you can take it easy and heal your heart. I'm thinking about you.

I too am starving yet queasy all of the time. After I eat I feel sick and full for a long time. Then as soon as its gone I'm starving. I don't get it! I also feel sluggish all day long. I feel like such a bad mommy! My ds has watched more tv this last 5 weeks then in his entire life. Oh well Hopefully I will get my energy back in 4 weeks. I'm 8 weeks today.

My hair is falling out too. When I washed it this morning I noticed it all over my hands. I don't remember this with Gareth. Though I remember losing it after he was born.

My pants are starting to fit snugg. I wear control underware because I have a belly anyway adn they are too tight. I agree that the pressure on my tummy is so uncomfortable. I have been living in sweats. They are so becoming on me too! ;)

[shannon0218]

Well everyone, my doctor is trying to get things set up to put a central line in me. It has been admitted that this isn't going to get any better until at least 12 weeks and I am completely out of veins. They tried for over an hour and can't even feel any--so I have no idea where the hell they are going to site a central, but I suppose I'll let them worry about that. So by the sounds of things I will spend the next 4 weeks of my life on IV meds and fluids. Oh the wonderous joys of pregnancy.

[jorie]

Ellie'smom, I am so sad for you!:hug I am still a little bit scared myself as I miscarried in Jan. Good luck to you!

I had my first appt. almost two weeks ago now. I decided to go ahead and see my NP before I moved. She pulled in the portable ultrasound and I got to see the baby and heart beat!!!!: :love Feeling much more reassured but, see above. I am now in a quantry(sp) over finding a ob or family dr. My NP said I should see an ob since I had gd and went early. Ugh. I just don't want this preg turned into a "thing"--I fear the intervention that might come from being classified "high risk". Oh, and I have epilepsy which just makes everything more fun! Sigh. I so wanted a midwife this time--not in the cards though. The ones in my area either only do homebirth or are not covered by my insurance.

The wedding was fine except for ms kicked in on the plane to PA and I came down with pnuemonia! I thought I wasn't going to make it through the wedding actually. Esp, as I had to carry ds down the aisle since he refused to walk or be carried by dh (ds was the ring bearer and dh and I both stood up in wedding) I'm pretty well now, but still coughing a bit. I thought the ms would get better when I got well, but apparently, I'm just having a girl!:) My explanation for why I'm having ms, as didn't have any with ds. I haven't actually thrown up more than a couple times, but I have this almost constant low-grade nausea--partly blood sugar related, but as nothing tastes good, it has been difficult to overcome. Anyway, I've written a book. So glad to be back on the board! I tried to back read the stuff I missed and finally gave up--two weeks gone it just too much!

[wtchyhlr]

Shannon - i'm glad they're going to put a permanent IV in so that you don't have to remain a pincushion with collapsed veins. It, however, Sucks. I hope that the IV fluids, etc, make you feel tolerable

Jorie - Welcome back :)

My hair is falling out, too. Whats up with that. I noticed it this morning. Normally this only happens when my thyroid is acting up, but we're monitering that pretty closely.

and i'm exceptionally sleepy. the last couple of days off work, i've napped from 12:30 - 2:30, and man can i feel it today that i'm not napping.
i'll be sleeping when i get home from work in a couple of hours.

my queasiness is mostly gone. I am also very jealous of all ya'll that have seen the heartbeat... My midwife appt is July 20 - so only 2 more weeks til I get to hear my baby... or see, haven't decided yet on an ultrasound. Anyone NOT doing ultrasounds?

[shannon0218]

Well, the bullshit continues....
The pic line can't be put in at my hospital adn the hospital who does them can't see me until Thursday morning--course they didn't feel the need to call with that until 3:30 adn actually we called them. My doc is very mad and will try and get me in somewhere else tomorrow morning. The anesthesioligist tried three times to get a line in to tide me over with no luck, there are NO veins left he said, unless he does the bottom of my foot, which would place me on bed rest, which I'd really like to avoid obviously. So for now I will go in three times a day for IM injections of gravol and see if that holds me until thursday--this of course screws up my U/S that is booked for Thursday morning at 9:30--since I'm supposed to be at a different hospital by 10:10. Yeah, Right....

[ekblad9]

:hug Shannon! I'm so sorry you're dealing with all of this. I know you must be miserable. Hang in there.

I shouldn't complain at all b/c compared to Shannon I have no problems but I'm so overwhelmed. I feel so guilty b/c I just lay around all day long. I feel crappy, I don't cook, we need groceries, I just sleep on and off until it's finally time to put the kids to bed. I'm wasting their whole summer. I feel really bad about it. I just don't have the energy to do anything else.

[Truvie]

I feel so bad for all of you with such horrible symptoms! I hope you feel better very soon.

I've been worrying because I barely have symptoms. I'm definitely more tired than usual, but that's about it. I had an ultrasound at 8 weeks, saw the baby and heartbeat, and felt better for about a week. Then I started worrying again. Today I had an appointment with a midwife in a different practice (I'm trying to find someone I like), and I had her give me another quick ultrasound! I feel so guilty! But it was so wonderful and reassuring to see the baby kicking and jumping around! After my miscarriage and all the complications with my son, it's hard for me to believe that things can go normally with this one.

Truvie

[ella-makes-3]

Hi all, well great to see you all and catch up on what has been happening around here.
Elliesmom - sending you big hugs and even bigger baby making vibes too xx
Shannon - you are my due date buddy! Just hang in there, it must be so difficult to be patient, but just think of it as good practice for the next couple of years! I can't imagine how you are feeling, and how your life must already be completely different, but I think of you every morning when I wake up and hope that today will be better for you :love

At the moment I am really tired all the time. My dd has been sick all weekend with a double ear infection, very sore throat and and terrible cold, so no sleep for me!!
Those are about the only symptoms that I am having, other than the feeling of breathlessness and my heart feeling fluttery. Oh yes and the dreaded heartburn has reared its ugly head yet again, but much earlier, so I am off to get some papaya tablets. They are supposed to work really well.

I am glad to see that some of you other ladies are kind of feeling very unmotivated like me. It just seems so hard to get goingI just feel so lazy and slug like YUck!! But better than feeling pukey.
Have a great day xx

[tug]

morning everybody -

i don't remember being this tired for my first...i guess it was because i could go home and nap (i am sooo jealous, witchyhlr! :) ) now i go home and chase the little one around 'til bed time. and, like you ella-makes-3, my ds has been sick and up all night for three nights in a row. last night, he was really restless and would wake up and shout and then go back to sleep -- very odd.

anyway, hope everybody has an ok day and not too much pukiness and sleepiness. get lots of rest and take care of yourselves!

[ekblad9]

Hey everyone. After a couple of weeks of this I feel like everything is unraveling. We're out of all food, don't even have milk for cereal. The house is out of control and my mom just lectured me about how ungrateful I am. :eyesroll Apparently I should be jumping for joy that I feel like garbage and my household has fallen apart. Of course I'm happy to be pregnant. Of course I'm happy to have five healthy children. Does that mean I can't be overwhelmed? Argh :irked: Sorry, just had to get that off my chest.

[shannon0218]

ok, so now I have a horrible cold or some sinus thing on top of all else. So my evening goes, cough...puke....puking makes my nose stuffed, blow my nose...puke, etc, etc, etc.
I tell dh to get me sudefed as apparently you can take that without concern, he decides high power is best and brings me one with ibuprofen--which of course I can't take.
So tell me about these neti pots, and Heve, where can I get one around here???
I can't take much more of this, I haven't kept anything down since loosing my IV, I'm not coping in any way any more and if things don't get better I think I'm going to have to think about terminating this pregnancy. Sorry if that upsets anyone, I just can't cope anymore, I looked in the mirror this morning and my skin is literally grey--add that to the hair I can't colour and I look like shit.

[wtchyhlr]

:Hugs
Shannon, hang in there.

Neti pot - just about any health food store. And they work well. Try sniffing a tissue w/eucalyptus or tea tree essential oil on it. that'll unplug you.

[heveasoul]

I can call around for the neti pot in local stores if you'd like. Also, OLBAS oil is awesome - in steam tents, on your pillowcase, or on a kleenex, even rubbed straight on your chest. OLBAS also has lozenges that are wonderfully powerful. Do you have a vaporizor? Send Steve out for all of the above!!

[milk_maker]

Just subscribing, but also want to send my sympathy to Shannon. I hope you start feeling better and life starts to look up for you... :hug

For the records, I'm due 2/17/05.

Monica

[seren]

Oh SHannon, my thoughts and prayers are with you. I really hope you start feeling better.

Ekblad, my house is pretty awful, so don't feel bad. And I only have two children.

How early is too early for movement? I am almost positive I felt movement yesterday. It was kinda like a drum beat. I felt it 3 times yesterday and once this morning. I'm only 8 weeks. THe earliest I felt before was with ds, he gave a big 'ol kick at 12 weeks. Also, my stomach is already starting to get hard. I'm a big girl, I have a huge overhang belly, but I can feel it. I'm really starting to get freaked out that my dd might be right. Have I told ya'll about her? She's almost three. She told me awhile back that her sister was with Jesus and it was almost time for her to be in my tummy. I told her soon, but not yet. She then turned to dh and told him she wanted her sister, BOTH of them. That was within days of me getting pregnant. Then on Monday she asked us where our twins are. Can I just say EEK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Christi]

OK I have a cute story
Yesterday I lied down on my ds bed while he was playing. He said "What are you doing?" I told him "Mamas baby is making me tired" He picked up my shirt and said " baby you don't make mama tired" " mama you can play now" If only it were that easy! ;)

[ekblad9]

I just went to the grocery store and bought everything under the sun. All non organic, processed crap too! :eek I even bought pickles which I've never craved in pregnancy before! I can't believe how much money you save when you buy mainstream food! Anyway, my kids are in heavan right now. :LOL

Hang in there Shannon. I wish I lived closer so I could help in some way. :hug

[*Amy*]

LOL! I'm about to go to the store myself and the prospect is less than pleasant. *Nothing* sounds good to me today. I ate Honey Nut Cheerios for breakfast and it immediately made me feel like I was about to lose it. I had to lie down for about 10 minutes to keep it from coming back up.

This whole morning sickness thing seems so counter-evolutionary. How can it be good for the growing fetus for the mama to be so ill? It doesn't make sense.

[Lousli]

Oh Shannon, That sounds terrible! When is it that you get your IV back? Tomorrow? You can make it that long, right? And even though the IV limits you so much, you feel less sick with it. You're going to make it through this. Is there anything we can do to help other than the healing vibes we are all sending you?

Hugs to all who are feeling pukey and tired. I'm mostly tired, just a little nausea.

I'm with the pp who said that the u/s was reassuring for a while, but that they are nervous again after a week or so. Even though I have a ton of symptoms, I have those same worries. I was thinking about renting a doppler, but I don't know. It seems silly. I wasn't this worried when pregnant with my first, and that went fine. I think I was scared from the get-go when my HCG was so low and then I started spotting.

I'm so glad that I'm vacation, because I can lay around and do nothing pretty much as much as I need to, but then I feel guilty that I'm not helping dh with my dd, or clean our house, which is not just a mess, it is a total and complete pigsty. Neither dh or I are very good at cleaning or organizing, and as a result, my house is always in a state where it is embarassing to have people over.

Seren, when do you have an ultrasound or an appointment that would allow you to find out if there are two? That would be scary but exciting!

[seren]

I have an appointment on Friday, but the midwife doesn't have an u/s machine. Plus, if she diagnosis, I can still see her for care and she can deliver in the hospital. But if it's diagnosed somewhere else, I have to switch providers. I WANT MY MIDWIFE!!!!! Waah!!!!

[TexasSuz]

:crying UG! My OB called and cancelled my appointment today. We were all going to go and hear the heartbeat for the first time. I am soooo upset. Now I have to see the PA on Monday. I'll be 11 weeks and still have not talked to my OB, just nurses! The practice is really far from my house but I stay with them because they give such good care - ususally.

I had heard that 2nd time moms get overlooked because we are suppose to know what we are doing. UGGGGGGGGGG! I really want to hear my baby!

Feeling okay as long as I take the Zofran and get a nap everyday. I am still eating crap and not enough of it, but I guess it is better than eating nothing.

:angry Really upset today. At a loss for how to entertain two kids - ds and niece. Want to hide in bed!

[shannon0218]

Thanks for your well wishes ladies. I think I'm calming down a bit. Talked to my OB this morning on the phone and she wants me to come in this afternoon after my U/S to talk more. I have this overwelming fear that I will loose this baby after going through all this. I just want a guarentee, which she of course can't give me.
I will try to buy a neti pot this afternoon cause I'm sure not being able to breath is not helping my mental state right now.
Thanks for asking Lesley, I'm not sure what anyone can do, but keep on sending the good vibes and keep your fingers crossed for my U/S at 2:30.
Thanks,
Shan

[mama2m&m]

sorry ihaven't been posting much. the scrolling screen makes my head spin.

shannon, all my best vibes coming your way. i hope the scan goes well and that you have a productive visit with the doctor. :hug

[heveasoul]

Hang in there, Shannon, and I hope this afternoon goes well. Big :hugs
And dh's thoughts go out to you, too.

[heveasoul]

:yawning: I think it's time for another group nap.


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[*Amy*]

Shannon, hang in there honey. :hug

I hate complaining given what so many of y'all are going through, but I am having serious stomach/intestinal issues today. :sick The only things that seem to help are Processed Potato Products (the three P's). I bought potato chips (baked Lays) at the store, which I haven't done in like a year, but damn they are good. If lovin' starch is wrong, I don't wanna be right.

Oh, and I'm irritable :demon and moody. I started crying in the frickin grocery store. As I told DH this morning, growing a baby is harder than I thought it was going to be. But I wouldn't change it for anything. :love

[rose angel]

The only things that seem to help are Processed Potato Products (the three P's). I bought potato chips (baked Lays) at the store, which I haven't done in like a year, but damn they are good. If lovin' starch is wrong, I don't wanna be right.
:love
:LOL :rotflmao :LOL

[shannon0218]

Ok, I'm back, my doc calmed me down and encouraged me to look to the future and promised that even if the nausea and vomitting does carry through the entire pregnancy it always at least gets better by the second tri. She changed up my meds a bit and there is one more to try but she is hesitant as there have been no real studies of it's use in pregnancy.
I saw the baby, measured right on at 8w 5d, which is to the day where he/she should be, so the heparin is doing it's job. Heart rate was 158 and she let me hear it. I liked this U/S tech, as soon as she got a picture up on the screen, the first thing she said to me was "we have a good heartbeat" She pointed out limb buds and eye sockets too.
Neti pots are not available in any of our 3 health food stores, but I did get some olbas oil.
Off to take a nap right now, I'm exhausted.

[ekblad9]

Yippee Shannon! I'm so glad you saw your baby. That helps so much. My mom and dad have my 19 month old, 3 year old, and 7 year old for the afternoon so I'm off to nap and watch Party of Five on DVD.

[heveasoul]

Oh, what a relief, Shannon! I'm so glad this afternoon went so well for you! How wonderful to have such a supportive, caring doctor! :love

Yeah, the neti pot isn't something I've seen around, but I can call around if you'd like. The OLBAS oil should help - boil some water, pour it into a heat-proof bowl (eg Pyrex), make a tent with a towel over the bowl and test for tolerence (nosehair-singeing not good!). Then add a few drops of the oil - breathe~~~do that for 10 minutes/as long as you can tolerate it. Have a kleenex box handy, cuz you'll be draining! When you nap, put a few drops on a kleenex that you'll place near your face, and it's ok to rub it directly on your chest, neck, those glands under your ears - wherever it's sore.

CALL ME if there's anything I can bring/do, k?!

Yay ekblad7 on the babysitting score! :thumb

[shannon0218]

Yes, she is very caring and supportive. I met with her before the U/S and she was waiting for me when I came out, when I told her it was good she gave me a big hug and pointed out we've never made it this far before and that she has a good feeling about this pregnancy (and since she also had a feeling Heve would not need that Clomid script.....)
I'm about to try the whole bowl of water thing with the Olbas oil, will let you know how everything comes out ;)

[Lousli]

Shannon, so glad the u/s went well and that you are feeling somewhat better. The second trimester is right around the corner!

I am feeling grumpy and disoriented. I just woke up from a long nap (2 hours) but it wasn't very restful since we have workmen downstairs from where I was sleeping literally hamming on the walls. When I awoke, my dd and dh weren't here, and no note. While I would normally enjoy this, it was a little weird. Plus it is about 103 out today, and even with air on it doesn't seem to get cool enough inside.

Sorry to be grumpy. Anyone know what this is? Before I went to take a nap, the right side of my uterus seempy crampy and tender. Lsted that way for a while. Now it seems to have a dull ache, not bad at all, just barely noticeable. Could this be round ligament pains? Stretching? I also have more nausea today than I usually do. Don't know if that has anything to do with it.

[ekblad9]

Sounds like ligament pains to me. I get them that way too. Not so much anymore, I'm embaressed to say. All stretched out.

I feel crappy still. And very, very crabby. Dh just tried to get me to walk the dog. I just can't interact with other people right now. Anyone else feel that way? I feel like small talk would drive me insane!

[*Amy*]

Yes, yes, yes. I can't even fake interest.

[HydeParkB]

Yes, my patience is real thin right now. We just had some evangelists at the door (Mormons or Jehovah's Witnesses, I think), and I didn't even have the patience that I usually do. I gave 'em two minutes and then said, "You know, I really don't want to talk religion. I gotta go." Usually I let them go on for 10 minutes before I can't stand it anymore.

[Lousli]

Thanks ekblad. It is a little bit stronger again now, feels kind of like menstrual cramps, but only on one side, and low. I think it must be ligament, because it is stirring some memories for me (but you know, that was more than 3 years ago now).

I'm so glad I'm not the only one feeling like not interacting with people. I got a call from (almost certainly) a telemarketer, and I told them they had the wrong number! LOL.

I wish I could get over feeling guilty because I never want to do anything but lay around. My dh doesn't mind at all, in fact, he just said, "You are doing so much hard work right now making our baby!" Isn't that the nicest thing? I do look forward to that 2nd trimester energy boost, and really hope it comes before I have to start teaching again (in only 2 more weeks!)

Hope everyone is feeling okay today, getting lots of rest, etc.

[shannon0218]

Ahhhhh, yes, why do the telemarketers insist on calling the pregnant chicks???
I just had someone call and ask for Mrs. L........--I did not take Steve's name, so I told them there was no such person.

[wtchyhlr]

Hey Shannon - you can probably find a Neti Pot online, if you don't mind waiting a couple of days.....

I'm with ya'll on the antisocial thing. I did not get a nap today - Wednesday is my hard day, and I'm so feeling it.

Thinking of all of you.....

[jorie]

I'm with you on the anti-social thing--I about took the head off a telemarketer today--Beware those who call during nap time!!! I think we all need :grouphug

shannon--my continued thoughts and prayers!

I am definately starting to show already--I need to find my bigger clothes but I'm not sure where the movers put that box! I've been wearing the same pair of shorts for days--hopefully the energy fairy will visit tomorrow and I'll actually unpack something:LOL

Off for a bedtime snack . . .sweet dreams

[wtchyhlr]

Marjorie... once you're done with the energy fairy, please send her my way. I need to find the energy to fill in the holes the puppy has dug in my garden before i step in one adn break my ankle....

[Lousli]

Do round ligament pains last all day long? because mine have. I'm not too stressed, because I remember early labor with my dd feeling exactly like menstrual cramps, and this doesn't. I expect that if something was going wrong it would be more crampy, and more all over, rather than just confined to one side/area. But what do you all think?

[seren]

I have a yucky yeast infection! I called the midwife today and she told me I can't use any of the over the counter stuff, it's too early. So I now have yogurt in my vagina. I must say that is something I never thought I would have there. TMI, sorry. :eyesroll

[Parker'smommy]

HI ALL!!!!

Finding the time inbetween my toddler living on my breast and me laying on the couch in a stupor to post something. IT's 11:30 pm and its so quiet....for now!!!! It took 1 1/2 hours to get my 28 month old to sleep tonight. I thought I was gonna go crazy......dh helped, but he only wanted me. Im wondering how I will manage the nighttime routine with two???? ANd then I start thinking of it all and wonder how I will even leave the house with two???Someone talk me off the wall.......

ANd oh, I'm only 10 weeks but I swear I'll be in maternity clothes by the end of the month.......ugh. I didnt wear maternity clothes with ds until 5 1/2 months.

I hope everyone is doing well. This thread is so hard to keep up with but I did see Heavesoul's suggestion for a group nap, and I think that is a great idea!!!!
ANd Shannon, don't feel bad about your feelings. I have had those same feelings too and Im not half as sick as you are. I keep going, "Oh, yah, this is why I hated being pregnant last time!" And Ekblad , hey, at least you went shopping.....the cupboards are bare here!!!!!!!!!

[shannon0218]

Ok, here goes.....
Heather... Come. Down. Off. The. Wall.
Lesley, I was having similar pains last week while I was in hospital and when I described them to my doc she felt it was just stretching, they took 5 days to clear up.
Seren, If you have a latex glove, you can freeze the yogurt into suppositories trust me it kills that burning feeling quick and works great--that and it's easier to get it up nice and high if it's frozen.
Joy, give your puppy a digging pit in an out of the way corner of the yard, basically build him a small sandbox--I even just use the cheap plastic pools, fill it with play sand adn then bury toys and cookies in there, he'll soon figure out that he gets rewarded for digging there--and it's more fun since it's sand--but that he gets yelled at for digging anywhere else in the yard. PM me if you need more information.

As for me, the new medication seems to work wonderfully, she said it speeds gastric emptying--the right way--not the way I've been doing! I managed to eat a bit of steak, potatoe and corn last night and keep it down--then I managed to sip and finish 3 big glasses of juice/water and didn't throw that up either. I didn't throw up at all until this morning when I woke up!!!!! Woo Hooo!!!!
Going in shortly for my picc line--has anyone had one?? How bad are they to put in??? Where the hell are they gonna put it??? My arms are black adn blue.
Heve, if you could see if they have a neti pot in Guelph or Kitch, that'd be great.
Everyone have a good day.

[ekblad9]

Hi everyone. Heather - Leaving the house with two is not that bad. I have found that I can't even think about adding the new baby to the mix until he/she is actually here. It's too hard to imagine and you can't do it until you do it, KWIM? So no more worrying! You'll be fine!

Shannon - good luck sweetie. You're in my thoughts almost constantly. When I'm at my lowest I think of you and how lucky I am to feel as good as I do.

I'm going to the midwife today. Have to give her a bunch of money which dh is :eek about. I'd so much rather pay her out of pocket than have the insurance company over pay a dr. that I don't even know, KWIM? Anyway, I doubt she'll do much in terms of a check up. It's too early really. I'm only 7 wks 2 days.

Alright, :hug to everyone. Hang in there!

[mama2m&m]

shannon, yeah! so glad you're feeling better and things are looking up. good luck with the pic line.

i had another scan last night and everything looks great. baby is measureing 7w5d which is about right. by due date i'm 8w1d today. i've just been telling everyone we're due mid February.

so if i can make it one more week, i'll be past the m/c date of last time. i don't think i've really connected yet like i did last time. i'm too afraid.

hopefully i'll feel better soon. mine's getting worse and i'm throwing up more. but iwas able to get my tetth brush this am so that was a plus lol. i can't wait for the queasies to go away.

[tug]

lesleyluu - i've had weird aches around that area too, although usually mine are both sides. makes me nervous too, so thank you everybody for saying they're normal!

shannon - good for you eating something! hope the picc (?) line went ok. not sure what it is.

heather - i've wondered the same thing about how i will manage with another and i only have one now and he is easy!

still feeling ucky, but at 9 weeks, i'm telling myself that there's just a little bit more of this!

[Boobs]

I'm so glad the medicine is working, Shannon! I was getting worried about you. You are handling all this so much better than I could. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it all goes away and you feel beautiful and healthy and gloriously pregnant in your second trimester.

I had my u/s Tuesday. Baby measures 9 wks/2 days. Feb. 8 edd. So, I was a week off. Not too bad! Everything looks really good. It was so exciting to see him/her wiggle around.
Well, I had to go to the ob yesterday. After waiting for over an hour, the NP saw me instead of him. I almost lost it on her! After she tells me my levels are all perfect (including my iron) and the u/s pictures were great and everything looks like it's going very well, she starts lecturing me about being vegetarian and how I have another person to think about now!! :splat :cuss She wanted me to see the dietician. No thanks! Unless she specializes in vegetarian pregnancy, and I'm sure she doesn't, no thanks! I pay very close attention to what I eat. I was pissed. THEN, after I told her my midwife would be monitoring my diet, we talk a bit. This lady was going to be a midwife and only had 3 classes left when she decided to be a NP. She had her baby at home. After I tell her I had a cesarean before, she starts telling my how my midwife isn't going to LET me give birth at home and starts explaining that the word for that is VBAC like I'm a complete idiot who doesn't know anything! She used the word LET like 4 times!!! I'm sorry, but God is the only one who is going to LET me or NOT LET me give birth anywhere! I was livid. She also had no idea whether or not I had already worked all that out with my midwife. I haven't, but I'm not concerned about it. The whole thing just really pissed me off.
I feel no need to go back to the ob's office. I'll deal with my midwife only from here on out.
Okay, sorry for the rant. :innocent

M/S is easing up. I'm sure the prenatals I was taking were making it worse, so they gave me some that are supposed to help. They have time-released B-6.
Gotta go to work!
Hope you all have a good day and start feeling better!

[KateSt.]

Hi Ladies! I'm here too! I thought I was due in March, but after a visit with my m/w and according to the size of my uterus and hcg levels, I'm gonna be a Feburary Momma! (Heveasoul, thanks for the invite over here! :love )

This looks like a fun thread and I recognize so many of you women from ttc, I'm SOOOO happy to be joining you!

Shannon, I've been following you on both threads -- I'm so glad you seem to be doing a bit better.

I'm feeling the same as most of you -- extreme fatigue (I did partake of the group nap yesterday, Hevea!), food aversions, nauseous but not getting sick, and extreme aversion to any type of housework. My first 2 pregnancies were not this "bad" so I'm taking this all as a very good sign.

Tracie -- so glad your m/s is getting a bit better, though I'm sorry your appt was such a horror. YOU are your own expert and YOU know what's best for you and your baby -- screw them! (Can you tell I have very strong feeling about this sort of thing?)

Tugs and Lesley -- I had af type cramps for a good four weeks -- and they were constant. I was happy to hear this was normal, too.

Mama2m&m -- so happy to hear your scan went fine. Hope you feel better soon, too.

Ekblad -- good luck at your appt. (I'm paying out of pocket too... :eek )

Hugs to Parkersmommy, Seren, Wtchyhlr, Amy, Jorie, and Hydepark. :grouphug

Hey, one question for you guys -- are you estimating your weeks by conception date or date of lmp????

So happy to be here!!

[tug]

tracie- i have a pregnant veg/vegan question. i've been trying to eat the protein bars ("organic food bar" is the brand) but lately they've been turning my stomach. have you tried them or do you do something else for protein? i also eat lots of pb (yeah, i know, all the allergy stuff) and tofu. maybe those are enough for protein? just thought i'd get your thoughts.

thanks!

also, grrrr, to the np. i hate when people do that. we got lots of it when i was pregnant before. so far this time, i haven't gotten it 'cause i've only told our closest friends.

[tug]

welcome Kate! we must've crossed posts. i'm measuring from first day of last period even though i totally don't think it's very effective. in theory, my ds came three weeks early, but i think he was right on time. i think impreg. was much earlier than the assumed two weeks.

[wtchyhlr]

I'm measuring from conception date, because in my case, i have LONG cycles... and being as how we only gio once the entire frigging month (long story, new, very needy puppy, and tired us)... i am rather positive of when we conceived

[weesej]

I got the flu on top of my MS---Had a sympathy day with Shannon. Uggh- I know I will recover and start to feel ok again, but a days worth of vomiting made a hugedent in my milk supply. DD got supplements all night last night. Nursed all morning today-midwife said she might wean from all this. So pissed, she is only 8 months old!!! I was already supplementing 1 time a day because I would nurse her and nurse her and she would be so fussy and hungry, then she would just drain the bottle :irked: I want to be able to take care of the baby I already have!

[HelloKitty]

Hi everyone. Just saying a quick hello and subscribing. I haven't read everyone's post yet because looking at the screen makes me more ill then I already am all the time so... I guess I don't have many comments for everyone! Hugs to everyone. Hope to be feeling up to being more of a conversationalist soon :)

Kitty

[ella-makes-3]

Hi ladies, how's everyone doing?
Shannon - that's so great that you saw the baby, listened to the hb and hopefully the olbas oil is making you feel better! I was going to suggest VICKS to you, but the Olbas Oil works just as well.
Hope the pic ? went ok. What is it?

Kate - welcome to February, it is hard to stay ahead of all the posts here. We are a lively bunch!

Weesej- hope you are feeling better, flu, on top of everything else, not much fun. Good luck with the bf, just stick with it, your body will produce more . It took a long time with me, I never had an overabundance of milk. I did know of women that would pump and throw it away :eek :eek because they had too much!

To all those whose cupbaords are bare, and have bought mainstream stuff for their kids to eat, I drove past a Taco Bell today, and just HAD to have something. I think the last time I had a taco was 3 years ago, so anyway I had a nachos thing with cheese (?) and beans on it and it was delicious!!! I could have eaten 3!! So now I feel guilty about the toatl lack of nutrition, so will eat fish and grilled veggies for dinner!!

Hope you are all having a good day growing those babes!

[lasofia]

Ok, I'm feeling much better now. We just heard the heartbeat! (I'm 10 weeks LMP). My midwife asked me how I was doing and I said, Anxious to hear the heartbeat. So she listened for it first thing, a couple seconds on the doppler.

It was right there, immediate, loud and strong. So I'm pretty happy.

The midwife pointed out that sick as I've been, it was probably going well (I'm in the barf all day crowd, but am finding remedies at last). But nothing like hearing the heartbeat...

Oh, and just cause - my not-such-great food craving I've been wallowing in is jarred mandarin oranges by Dole. But they're SO SO SO good!

- Sofia

[Periwinkle]

Add me to the list of "fall off the organic-whole-foods wagon" ladies. Last night, I was ravenous for carbs - absolutely beside myself - and I thoroughly enjoyed a bowl of mac n' cheese (noooooo not whole wheat Annies, we're talkin Kraft here people - you know, the GOOD stuff ;) ).

Prior to gettng pregnant, I had cut way back on starches, sugar, grains... but since getting pg I have tried hard to up my intake of "good carbs" (fresh fruits, veggies, nuts, beans...) and have also added in one or two servings a day of grains, like a slice of sprouted sourdough toast with butter in the AM... :yum

BUT the last couple of days, I think my body is telling me something, because I have carbs on the brain. Thank G*d for TLC crackers is all I have to say - they taste good and they're good for you. I think I'm going to re-introduce sandwiches here and there, and am going to try to find other things - I've never had quinoa, think oatmeal would be yummy in the morning... etc etc

Oh yeah, and mac n cheese. And hot dog buns. :yum Is it bad that I would be willing to give away my house for a Wonder Bread fluffernutter sandwich??!!

So, enough about the cravings and starvation I feel (and nausea, and exhaustion, and...). I am soooo thrilled to hear everyone is getting good :heartbeat and seeing babes growing well. Those of you who are sick as dogs, my heart is going out to you - I know the alternative is worse :( but it doesn't make it any easier to bear. Shannon, I'm so glad to hear the medicine is working. Hopefully you will start to feel better again in a few weeks. :hug

[Periwinkle]

p.s. I actually think I'm showing now. In the past week, my little "potbelly" has gotten very hard and is now nicely filling out the pleats in my pants!!! LOL Does anyone know of good "transition" clothes - even I am way far away from panel pants - I thought I heard a company that sold some transition clothes, and would be willing to spring for a pair of pants or two to tide me over for 1-2 months and then after the baby is born for 1-2 months ( yeah right, or 1-2 years :D ). I thought it might have been Garnet Hill, but I checked and it wasn't them - they don't even sell much maternity anymore. :(

[KateSt.]

Periwinkle :LOL You sound just like me! I'm not a big starch, sugar eater but alas! that's all I've been wanting. I'm doing the oatmeal, quinoa, tlc cracker thing but I really want bagels, doughnuts, and pastry type things (okay, I've indulged a bit!). I even have frozen mac n' cheese waiting for me in the fridge that I bought on a whim! Why is it that our bodies/babies want carbs?
Before I thought cravings were just the result of not eating properly (I didn't really have many my 1st 2 pregnancies) but now I know that's not the case. I'm a very healthy eater...and all I want is junk (or nothing at all)!!! :D

Lasofia -- congrats on the :heartbeat That must have been beautiful, indeed. I wonder if I'll stop worrying as much when I hear that. I hope so.

Ella-makes-3 -- :yum nachos with cheese!! Mexican is my personal favorite..and you're making me drool!

Hellokitty and weesej -- I hope you both start to feel better very soon.

Wtchylr -- I have very looong cycles, too, which is why I asked. I'm usually on a 6 week cycle and THOUGHT I knew when we conceived...but my m/w insists I'm further along than that...so :shrug Wow -- one time all month and you got preggers! VERY impressive!!

[wtchyhlr]

Wtchylr -- I have very looong cycles, too, which is why I asked. I'm usually on a 6 week cycle and THOUGHT I knew when we conceived...but my m/w insists I'm further along than that...so :shrug Wow -- one time all month and you got preggers! VERY impressive!!

Even more so when you add in the fact that we'd been trying for 2 years, charted obsessively for over a year, and had given up and gotten the puppy... :LOL

[Lousli]

Old Navy and the Gap (evil companies, I know) both sell no-panel pants that are meant to be for the transitional period. I may cave and buy some soon.

[Parker'smommy]

Wow, this is a record for me, posting two days in a row!!!!

Thanks for talking me off the wall Shannon, Tug, KateSt. and AMy!!! I just get so overwhelmed just thinking about the reality of it all!!!

So, glad that you didnt puke this morning Shannon....that is so awesome and must have been a welcome change for you!!!

lasofia - so cool to hear the heartbeat so early....or is that just right? im not sure about these things. When is a heartbeat usually first detected just using a regular doppler and not a u/s??? You'd think I'd know these things, but Im clueless.


Oh, and I forgot to tell you guys my OB mess. Well, it feels like a mess to me. I haven't seen an OB since I had ds two years ago. My old OB/gyn told me that it was pointless to come in for a check-up because since I was bfing that the Pap wouldn't be accurate and she couldnt really do a breast exam either, so she said when ds weaned, to give her a call. Well, we have since moved AND changed insurances ( we have Blue Cross HMO now) and I guess I can only go to one place for prenatal care - North COunty WOmen's Care. I try to make my first appt. and they set it for July 27th and I ask who it is, and they say some male dr. THen I ask what will happen at the first appt and the receptionist says a pelvic exam, breast exam, u/s, and blood test. SO, I say, well, I want a female dr. ( just my preference) and she says, well, the dr. is backed up till August 3rd. I tell her that's fine, but I will be over 3 months along without seeing a doctor, does the dr. have any vitamin reccomendations? She says, "You can get prenatals at any drug store" umm okay. SO, now Im feeling, well, not confident. Heck, not only do I NOT want a U/S and pelvic exam at all But certainly not by someone I just met!!!! Thats just a little too personal for me. If it was an emergency, I would say okay, but it isnt. Im thinking of calling and talking with the receptionist about my concerns and asking to set up an appt pre- my existing appt to just talk with the doctor and possibly just confirm the pregnancy. I'm having a vbac, and while I've already been told that the doctor is very supportive of vbacs, I want to explain my other concerns like minimal pelvic exams, and ultrasounds. Am I too over bearing?????

[ella-makes-3]

Lesley, where would you find the panel pants? In the maternity section?
Kate, those nachos and cheese tasted so good, that I wish that dh wasn't here as I would go out and get more for dinner. Now that would be really gross eh?
I am kind of in the same eating habits as you. I used to eat very healthly, NO SUGAR at all, with only whole grains , meat, fish and loads of fruit and veg, but now, put broccolli and steak on my plate and I wish that I was back at Taco Bell. It actually makes me feel nauseuos to eat it? Wierd eh? Same with my last pg too.

[shannon0218]

Ok, well I'm home, what a friggin ordeal!!! Turns out my small shitty veins are all over my body! Took 4 tries to get the picc in--for those who don't know what one is, it's a long catheter (there is 50cm--so almost 2') inserted in at the bicep and it goes up through the shoulder and basically stops just before the heart. It shouldn't get clogged up like a regular IV and can stay in for months. Anyway, I had to lay flat with aobut a 40 lbs of lead surrounding me for over an hour--at a particularily bad time I had to throw up but they couldnt' move my arm, so they rolled me a bit and held a basin for me. All in all they were very good and supportive, but it was still kinda hellish for me. My bicep adn shoulder are just killing right now, I"m hoping that passes soon.
Well gotta go, client coming in an hour and this place is a mess.

[KateSt.]

Ohhhh Gawd, Shannon! How horrendous!!! My m/w couldn't find a vein after 2 tries and I got so lightheaded and nauseous, I had to lay down. I wouldn't let her go for a third. And that was only a needle!!! Ugh...I can't imagine what your experience must have been like. :hug

Parkersmommy -- I would feel the exact same way!! I do think a first appt (without exams) is perfectly acceptable and appropriate -- that's exactly what I would want. I hope it turns out okay for you. (And I've never had a man do a pelvic exam -- I know they're professional, but I just couldn't handle the thought.)

Elliemakes3 -- seriously, I am drooling. I can't believe the unhealthy crap I'm craving (and it's definitely different from non-pregnant cravings.) Right now, dare I say? I'm craving a Burger King cheeseburger and onion rings! :shy But I won't give in!!! (At least, I don't think I will...)

Wtchyhlr -- what a wonderful, beautiful surprise this must have been! You know, my dh and I had decided to "take a break" after my 2nd m/c. I gave up charting, checking cm, everything. We even avoided gio when I thought it might be time to o. Lo and behold 8 weeks later I'm pregnant. I am SO happy it happened this way. We tried so hard for 6 months after my first m/c ...and I was an obsessive/compulsive mess. Anyway, I loved your story.

[*Amy*]

Oh Shannon, UGHHHH!! That just made my heart hurt for you, but I really hope your IV helps you get through the next period of time. God, you are a strong girl! I'd probably pass out if they tried to do that to me.

Heather, I used to live in North County too! I graduated from Vista High and then moved to Oceanside for a few years before moving to New Orleans (hi Tug!). I definitely think you should see your OB before your visit - that isn't too pushy AT ALL! No one can advocate for you better than you!

Joy, that is so cool how it happened for you. The same thing happened to my sister; she was trying for about 2 years, even went to a fertility clinic to begin looking into other options. She was told she may never get pregnant, and it took her several months to come to terms with that. Once she stopped worrying, though, it happened! After her first child, she thought she would go through the same thing again, but got pregnant with her second child almost right away. :love

Anyhoo, I am officially insane. DH suggested today that we start thinking about getting a king sized bed because he's 6 feet tall and sharing the queen with me AND baby probably isn't going to work for him (especially since I'm a sprawler and tend to sleep diagonally if I can get away with it). This seems like a reasonable suggestion to any normal person, of course, but I got totally stressed out about the fact that our bedroom is SO small, and if we get a King, we literally may not have room for the bed and a night table and a bassinet. And then we'd have to buy all new linens, which we JUST got because of recent wedding gifts (which included a duvet that I just love and don't want to replace already!). I mean, really, just stupid stuff, but GOD it's so absurd how little things just get me so upset and stressed!!! DH just looked at me and said, "It's all going to be OK, honey...really." LOL.

Also, I made an appointment to cut my hair off next week because it's driving me INSANE. Oh and my skin looks like crap, so that's depressing too.

OK enough complaining from me. I mean I know some of you have *actual* stuff to worry and complain about. :grouphug to all of you!!

[lasofia]

Parker'smommy - NO NO NO that's not overbearing! It's your body, yours and your baby's, and you get to make the decisions. Though given your very limited list of possible providers - I suppose you have to be extra gentle when you explain what you want and why.

shannon - *wince* *ow ow* You say you have a client coming - are you actually managing to WORK through this?

amy - It's all "actual stuff." Our bodies sometimes take over and it's very disconcerting and sometimes uncomfortable. You're allowed to complain! Last time I had extreme vomiting/nausea and bad acne.... and the acne sometimes bothered me just as much. "oooh, I'm so bloated and swollen and broken out and ugly!" It was pretty sad. I mean my self pity level.

[Boobs]

tracie- i have a pregnant veg/vegan question. i've been trying to eat the protein bars ("organic food bar" is the brand) but lately they've been turning my stomach. have you tried them or do you do something else for protein? i also eat lots of pb (yeah, i know, all the allergy stuff) and tofu. maybe those are enough for protein? just thought i'd get your thoughts.

thanks!

also, grrrr, to the np. i hate when people do that. we got lots of it when i was pregnant before. so far this time, i haven't gotten it 'cause i've only told our closest friends.

I honestly believe in the idea that most of us eat way too much protein. Eating a balanced diet will take care of it. We really don't need tons of protein. I eat tofu and pb and homemade energy bars and beans and all that stuff, but not specifically because they are high in protein. Your body will tell you if you really are needing something. For me, if I start craving a cheeseburger or steak (which I would never eat), I know my body must be low on protein and I'll eat a bean burrito or something.
I checked out a great book from the library called "Your Vegetarian Pregnancy". I don't remember the author but I really thought it was great.

[shannon0218]

Well Amy, if you do get a king size bed, I'll gladly scoop your queen size sheets and duvet---cause we didn't get any for wedding gifts--inspite of registering for them.
My skin sucks too, I have an unbelievable pizza forehead.

[Boobs]

My forehead is gross too! I don't remember this. Seems like my skin cleared up last time I was pregnant.
I have been neglecting it a little bit though cause I'm too lazy to wash my makeup off every night.

[ekblad9]

My mw appt went great. I just love her. It's such a different experience for me. Anyway, too early to hear the heartbeat or anything like that.

I felt so horrible this afternoon. Poor ds1 (12 1/2) had to watch the little kids. He even changed a poopy diaper! He put a sugar peas snap in into a wool cover all on his own. I was very proud of him. I napped for like 3 hours uninterupted. He's been paid well!

I've been craving orange juice today. And anything else that is crappy and bad for me. I forced some blueberries down so I could at least feel OK about what I'm eating. My brother's birthday was yesterday and my mom brought the left over cake here. I've been chowing on that on and off.

:hug to everyone. Take care! :D

[jorie]

shannon--ow ow :hug

Good news is I actually managed to find the box of clothes I was looking for:) Bad news is, it only had jeans in it! I apparently didn't save more than the one pair of shorts in the bigger size. So, I am going to need some transition clothes. . . course, the way things are going, give me a month and I'll fit into the maternity shorts I bought at a garage sale "just in case"! I showed early with ds (~3 months) so with this 2nd preg, I figured I'd show the day after the stick turned:LOL

Many :hug and much sympathy to all with ob prob. I am still in quest of one. I am trying for a family doctor but might not be able to because I am technically "high risk". Grrr . . . I know having past prob statistically raises my risk for future prob but I wish they could just treat this preg in isolation. The ob practices all do the rotating dr for prenatal care and whoever is on call for delivery. Apparently, they've never heard of continuity of care! It will be Monday before find out if I can see the fam dr. So send lots of good vibes!

I keep thinking that if I could just eat better, I would feel better, but when the thought of eating anything but Ruffles potato chips makes me queasy . . . its hard to force myself to eat steamed broccoli instead.:) I try to tell myself that every meal/snack is a new chance to eat well and not get upset at the junk I consumed at the last meal. Something is better than nothing!

[heveasoul]

:w Kate!!

Oh Shannon - HUGE hugs to you!

So tired - have stayed up way past my bedtime...

hugs to everyone feeling wretched...

Was given advice this evening by my TCM practitioner to breathe deeply in and out on 4-counts when feeling winded or shaky (which I did - sadly - after walking up 2 flights of stairs to her office). 25 % of our hearts' work is going towards our sweet beans! Also, showed me an acccupressure point on the wrist that's good for nausea. About two fingers' away from the wrist.

g'night.

[wtchyhlr]

Shannon - will try the sandbox in the kiddie pool idea. thats a good idea. :) anything to get the dog out of the comfrey. I'm going to need the comfrey this year.

Kate and all - yes, I was completely suprised and beautifully, wonderfully so to get my BFP. I had actually been told by my Shamanic healer that probably the only way i'd catch would be IVF, so definately suprised....

We went for italian food tonight. Buca di Beppo. and man oh man did I grub. i'm in a food coma now.

[weesej]

Many and much sympathy to all with ob prob. I am still in quest of one. I am trying for a family doctor but might not be able to because I am technically "high risk". Grrr . . . I know having past prob statistically raises my risk for future prob but I wish they could just treat this preg in isolation. The ob practices all do the rotating dr for prenatal care and whoever is on call for delivery. Apparently, they've never heard of continuity of care! It will be Monday before find out if I can see the fam dr. So send lots of good vibes!


May I ask what happened during your last pregnancy??? Curious now. Wish you luck in finding a care provider.

[shannon0218]

Well ladies I think this pregnancy is going down in the record books as the worst one ever. I now have pneumonia. I thought something was very wrong with the picc line last night, I had terrible pain in my shoulder and chest, went into ER as I also was having trouble breathing. I get there and my O2 sats are only at 67--they should be between 95 & 100, got hooked up to every monitor in the book which had me genuinely fearing I was having a heart attack, when they listened to my lungs the doctor asked me if I have a cold, I say, yes, head cold, he says no I think you have pneumonia. After about 15 min on the oxegen I felt much better, they did a quick x-ray and indeed I do have pneumonia. He figures the cold fluids being dropped off so close to my heart made the pain kick into overdrive and the steroids I'm already on are why I really wasn't coughing. So I've been put on an IV antibiotic that only needs 3 doses, I'll give him credit, he brought me all the literature he did read to say it is safe in pregnancy.
Can I just say this better be one very cute kid??

[KateSt.]

:hug :hug Shannon :hug :hug

I truly hope your second trimester is as magical and rejuvenating as it should be. You deserve it...

[wtchyhlr]

omg shannon - your kid is gonig to be frigging adorable :)

[weesej]

Shannon- My prayers are with you for healing and a calm remainder to your pregnancy.

[jorie]

shannon--just got over pneumonia myself--much empathy to you

weesej--I have epilepsy (totally under control, not really a problem just a "problem"). With first preg, I had gd and premature rupture of membranes at ~34wks. They never did figure out why prm. Ds was in NICU 2.5 wks, first 48hrs for lung stuff, the rest for weight gain ("You might have to face the possibility that bottle feeding is just going to be best for your baby" bite me! sorry, a little residual bitterness :blush Ds did finally start bf well and gained fine, once we came home, and still is at 25month:)). I've wondered if prm because I was working this job I hated more than anything and was about to start training my replacement which I was severely dreading. Ds was born on Monday and I was suppose to start training on Wednesday! I'm not beating myself up or anything (no "its all my fault, sob"), just wonder if my body couldn't handle both the stress of my job and the stress of preg anymore. I have a much nicer boss now (ds :love) and if he gets too demanding, I only have to make it until daddy comes home!:)

heveasoul--going to try the breathing. been getting winded with all the "hold you" from ds, esp up and down the stairs.

[Boobs]

Shannon! :hug :hug

[ekblad9]

OMG, Shannon! :hug I woke up with a cold this morning and was feeling sorry for myself! You poor thing. Your baby must be royalty! :D

[Lousli]

Shannon! I think you have definately set a new record. Hopefully in just a few weeks, you will be able to take a deep breath of relief and say, "I'm glad all that is over!" We are all thinking of you.

Well the mysterious (round ligament?) pain went away, so that is making me feel better. Thans for reassuring me that it was normal everyone.

Ekblad, sorry about that cold. I know they stink when you can't take anything for symptoms. The neti pot helps like crazy.

Jorie, My daughter was born at 36 weeks, and I honestly believe it was the stress of my job too. I blame my evil principal to this day! She did my 45 minute evaluation (only time she was in my classroom ALL YEAR) on November 1st, the morning after Halloween. The kids were hyper and I was exhausted. I was scheduled for another evaluation a week later, and I knew I would have to nail it. Excpet that I went into labor the night of November 3rd, and she was born Nov. 4. I didn't even have lesson plans ready or a sub picked out!

How evil was my principal? Well, I returned to work on December 21st so that I could get paid for the winter break. My daughter was 7 weeks old (and 4 weeks early). That was the day she chose to tell me that I would be non-continued (not rehired) for the following school year. She literally fired me the day I returned to work. Four days before Christmas (which fortunately I don't celebrate, or I would have really been depessed.)

Okay, enough of my saga. nedless to say, I'm so worried about telling my new boss that I'm pregnant before I have tenure.

weesj, good luck finding a great doc or midwife. Have you tried looking in the forum for midwives here?

Okay, off to try and make myself eat something and read the ttc board. feel better all of you!

[heveasoul]

Holy :censored Shannon. Glad you can (sort of) maintain your sense of humour...yeah, (s)he had better be cute...!

Wow. So perhaps you should speak with Val on a daily basis - she's aware of today's events? HUGE hugs. :hug

Lesley, jorie - how horrid! I hope the Feb 2005 births go much better - they WILL go much better! I will transfer one of our sayings from ttc...Keep your eye on the prize! :)

[*Amy*]

Shannon, my GOD! Not only is your child going to be fabulously adorable, but I'm sure he/she will be easy-going and agreeable in every way. ;)

I'm feeling much better the past couple of days and even went hiking this morning. It was really nice; I haven't hiked in about 3 weeks so it was good to get back out in the greenery and see the river.

Heather, I was thinking about you last night regarding your vitamin worries. I actually took over-the-counter prenatals for the 3 months prior to conception. I checked the CVS brand against a listing of vitamin recommendations for pregnancy, and it had everything I needed. It was about $10 for a 60 (or 90?) day supply. I think you can feel pretty confident that pharmacy brands will give you everything you need until you get a prescription.

Have a great Friday, everyone, and feel better to those who are illin'.

[shannon0218]

Heve, unfortunately I have been speaking to Val everyday--last night when I called her at 10 I said it was a bad sign that I no longer had to look up her cell phone #.
I like her alot and all, but I could be happy not seeing her face or hearing her voice for a couple weeks.
Feeling a little better right now, inhalers are helping and actually ate a bowl of cereal and it's still down.

[wtchyhlr]

Shannon - Glad somethign is staying down for a while....
I just want to say HOORAY for the weekend.
and i'm going to go take my nap now.

[MommytoL]

Ha! Looks like I'm about the last one to check in for the week. All is going well. Just funny things about this preg from the first. With a 25 month old dd, you now find cracker crumbs IN THE BED. Since I've decided to keep a package near the bed to eat one (or 2, or 3...) in the morning, she thinks she needs one too. Oh boy, crunchy sheets. She also pats my belly and says "tummy hurts" and "Mommy's baby in there"... I didn't expect her to really REMEMBER what I told her!

Still got the woozies most of the day. Dug out my "sea band" that we used on a cruise last year. Seems to dull the woozies somewhat.

Wuz up with the belly pooch at 7.5 weeks? Let's just call it gas, right? Still keeping it under wraps and sucked in til' ready to tell the world.

Going to m/w next week for a little check. My m/w is a doll and spends over an hour with me each time just shooting the breeze about nothing.

Jorie--we have a lot in common. My dd was born at 32 weeks, May 2002 (PROM also, at 29 weeks). She stayed 2 weeks in NICU (3 lbs. 14 oz.). I was determined to bf and by the time she was 36 weeks, we lost the pump! I latched on (no pun intended) to the lac/consult in the hospital for lots of help and asked for practice sessions more than the docs recommended. Worked like a charm. Now she's of course still BF, but we got it down to 3X/day! That just happened two weeks ago and the transition has been vedddy smooth! Not to mention a relief for the "eee-ow" that I feel when she latches on. Whew! But, once she starts, it's fine. Just, please...., don't slip off!!! ouch! No more asking out in public...I'm enjoying the break. I guess perfect timing for both of us. Well, I kind of went off my point there, but you know how this preggo brain is beginning to work...

Here's encouragement to everyone! We're all dealing with a little something, so let's keep positive, right?

Carol
#1 dd, 5/2002 and expecting :belly 2/19/2005

[seren]

Just a quick note. I'm a chaperone for my church youth conference, so not a lot of time. I had an appointment with my midwife today and she was very shocked taht she could feel my uterus. It's pretty high. Higher than it should be. She didn't use a measuring tape, but said I was basically measuring bigger than I should be at this point. We shall wait and see what this means!!!

[weesej]

seren- is there any chance you are off on your dates? Was your last period normal? Be patient :)

Our practice is experiencing a HUGE number of twins this year! 2 sets born already- 4 more confirmed due and 2 others highly sucpicous. We do about 120 births a year and statistically should see and usually do see 1-2 sets a year. All of these women drink raw milk and are considering the possibility that a hormone that many local farmers recently started using is causing it. (Makes me nervous since I just started drinking raw milk and then got pregnant LOL!)

[Periwinkle]

weesej OMG what a nightmare! Another reason I'm glad we buy organic! Stuff like this totally freaks me out.

My OB had no clue I was having twins until around 10-12 weeks, when he suspected it because I started measuring a little big. So he did a sono at 14 weeks, and sure enough there were my two babies!

The funny thing is I'm MUCH "bigger" (meaning, I feel my uterus/hardenening in the lower abdomen more) than I was with twins, but we got it confirmed via sono that it's "just one". :) I suppose to that one can say, "welcome to a second pregnancy" :LOL I think my poor stomach muscles are shot from having twins!

[seren]

Weesej, nope not off on dates. My last period was very very heavy. It was only my second since my ds was born. I had my yearly exam last month and was pregnant, but didn't know it. It was too early for them to tell.

[shannon0218]

Hi everyone, well, the nausea is getting better and like the goof I am, this of course has me worried :shake:
I have the dumbest/stupidest/ugliest/most obnoxious dog boarding with me right now and he's lucky I don't have a gun. He's now been howling/whining for the past 9 hours, non stop, inside, outside, in the kennels, in my living room, doesnt' matter the stupid thing just keeps yowling. I finally resorted to going into town to buy batteries for the bark collar and he yowls then yelps then bites at his neck--he's not real smart with the whole cause and effect thing, if he doesn't figure it out soon I think he's going to be crated in my truck overnight cause I can't take much more of this crap.
The pnuemonia is still bad and I'm done the antibiotics, I just wish the chest pain would go away, I feel like I have an elephant sitting on my chest right now and it's worse when I lay down.
Oh well, will I ever be happy again??????
How is everyone else doing???

[ekblad9]

I'm glad you're feeling a little better, Shannon. Sorry about the dog. :(

I'm still feeling pretty crappy. Trying to get through each day as best I can. I'm trying to remember when the m/s peaked before. I'm thinking it was around 8 wks and that it SLOWLY improves after that. I hope so. I can't take much more of this and I know my dh and kids are really sick of me being in bed!

:hug to all

[LianneM]

Hi you guys! I'm finally checking in! What a horrible week, but after reading about Shannon's ordeal, I am not complaining! :hug to you girl!

Things are crazy - I have a conference in Atlanta from the 25th to Aug 1 and I have soooooo much to do to get ready, with no energy! Several things I have to do involve really strong scents, and I can't stand the smell! Thank goodness for my wonderful DH - I couldn't handle this without him.

GO AWAY MORNING (ALL DAY) SICKNESS!!!!

[HydeParkB]

I'm doing pretty well, compared to most.

I've got definite nausea in the morning, but no heaves or actual pukeage. I'm catching up on sleep this weekend, along with a few of the chores.

On Thursday I had to be outside in the heat and humidity for a few hours, promoting my company. I'm dreading this week, which may entail TWO DAYS of outdoor work. The second day with about 3000 school age children. YIKES! I can't wait to tell my coworkers that I'm pg, so they can cut me some slack.

[seren]

Shannon, I forgot to ask you about the yogurt suppositories. The midwife I saw (not my usual, but don't want to talk about that right now) said she didn't think it was that serious. She told me to make garlic tampons, garlic crushed and wrapped in gauze. I think I would rather do the yogurt. Cause nothing else I've done has hleped. Do I just put it in a latex glove in the freezer? Oh, that's gonna be so dang cold!!!!

[Lousli]

Not trying to ignore everyone, hoping you all feel better, but a quick question. For those of you interested in hypnobirthing, what are your plans? Take a class? Buy a home study course? Where do I begin my search?

[shannon0218]

Serenity, I fill each finger up with about 1" of yogurt and pop it in the freezer. They're cold but if you have a burning yeast infection, it feels SO good.
Lesley, I plan on buying the hypnobabies home course (or hypbirth--just looking at that one) and doing some "classes" with my girlfriend who is certified in it, also I'll likely have my friend at the birth as she has a very calming effect on me and Steve.

[heveasoul]

Good morning, everyone! I hope this week brings dry weather, renewed energy and NO m/s!!

Shannon - :hugs to you especially - we're going to have to award you some kind of prize once you're feeling better (aside from the THE prize, of course! :baby )!! You've reminded me - I've just placed a hold on a hypnobirthing book at the library!

Seren - another thing (although those yogourt pops sound very relieving!!) is to get a tampon wet with tea tree oil - don't know if once the infection is full-blown painful, it would aggravate it, but when I used to get them, it did a great job at killing the yeastie beasties!

I've had an odd burst of energy this morning. You'd think I'd have used it to catch up on laundry or the like, but instead, I've prepped the makings of eggs florentine...I now have my Mornay sauce and creamed spinach waiting for when dh wakes up...was even thinking of baking some cupcakes or something...:nut

Although I must say that I have not been into sweets (strange for me!)...old habits die hard, though, but afterwards, I feel gross...

mendhi - have you been offline because you really are living outside these days?

hmmm...going to check if dh is anywhere near rousing...I want my breakfast! :yum!

OT - picked up Heidi (complete and unabridged - with the Beverly Cleary illustrations) - what a great children's classic! I was recently reminded of it due to its confirmation/support of what I consider good eating (mendhi might like it!), and it's just such an endearing story!

[shannon0218]

My God Hevea, I can't believe you are considering eating eggs florentine in the first tri-mester--even reading creamed spinach made me wanna puke--and I love eggs florentine!!!
I'm just waiting on the nurse to show up, then I am going over to my friends to have some hypnosis to see if it helps the nausea and also just to relax all my chest muscles--I woke up gagging around 6 this morning and thought I was going to tear up my entire chest--not pleasant.
I have this client who was one of my first clients and also one of the few that I would consider "friends", we really like these folks, they think alot like us. Anyway, I have their dog just for last night and today and they left us a wedding gift--a $350.00 gift certificate for Home Hardware!!! Can you believe that ??? I mean we got $50 and $100 from a number of clients--which I found surprising in itself, but that was a big surprise.
So who would like to handle the thread this week--who hasn't done it yet???

[heveasoul]

I know, I know...but hey - you're supposed to go with what feels right...and I had a hankering...!

I hope the hypnosis helps. Another thing I was thinking - are you still in contact with your ND? Your body has just been through the wringer - if she uses homeopathy, she may have some immune-boosting homeopathics that might help as you recover, help in preventing further infections, etc...And WOW on the wedding gift! :)

Ok, so dh is up...

Oh - I can look after it this week...! C'mon over! (http://mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=167483)

[Periwinkle]

Wow, I don't have bad m/s at all, have even I couldn't even be around eggs florentine! :D I get waves of nausea throughout the day (afternoon is actually the worst, or first thing in the AM before breakfast) - but more than nausea, I am just starving hungry so often and am already having powerful cravings (and aversions).

Last night we had take-out Indian food again (I can't get enough of murg makhini) and for some reason it really grossed me out. Fortunately dh's lamb vindaloo was quite tasty! ;) (Poor dh.... first hormonal snippiness, and now food stealing to put up with!)

Glad to hear everyone's feeling a little bit better or at least close to heading in that direction.

Can you believe we're only a few weeks away from our SECOND TRIMESTERS??!!! :banana