View Full Version : You won't believe what my ped told me today




2boys4me
07-13-2004, 09:56 PM
Hi everyone. I am fuming and I need to vent to some like minded mamas...

My son had his 6 month check up today. My ped 'scolded' me for not starting solids yet...said that if I didn't introduce them now that he would refuse them all together later...

Then she told me that I should plan on weaning before he turns 12 months. She says breastmilk has no nutritional content after the first year...

Is she crazy? I couldn't belive what I was hearing. She was critical of my cloth diapers...and she tried to force the foreskin on my son's penis back. She said if she didn't so it that he would wind up with an infection and that the skin would adhere to the head of his penis. Thankfully, I stopped her before she id any damage to my son's penis.

But when I left, I was very upset by the whole visit. Does anybody have words of wisdom? Is this lady crazy, or am I? Any experience with holding off on sloids longer than 6 months?

I have felt awful since I left her office this morning. She made me feel as though I am doing everything wrong...

Ugh... :irked: :irked:




Aura_Kitten
07-13-2004, 09:59 PM
:jaw

UrbanPlanter
07-13-2004, 10:04 PM
Your pediatrician is not a nutritionist. I don't offer information to my ped about solids and breastfeeding that I know will bring on the lecture...

Sorry you had to deal with that today! Think of the ped as someone who monitors the health of your child. You don't need to agree with everything she says about diapers or food or sleep or things along that line.

I'm really glad you stopped her with the foreskin. I've heard of mamas who weren't so fast with the ped, and their sons skin was forced back - ouch!

BTW - my ds didn't want solids for months and months after he turned six months. He barely ate solids at all for the first two years of his life, but when tested for anemia at his two year checkup, he was fine. He got all the iron he needed from breastmilk and no vitamin supplements, and the little solids he did eat. I still take a prenatal vitamin and drink lots of water and try to eat well and hope that that helps my milk supply. In any case, my ds is extremely healthy, no thanks to my ped's advice about solid food and breastfeeding!

Milkymommi
07-13-2004, 10:14 PM
:hug sorry you had that horrible experience Mama! I agree that peds are not nutritionists and not everything they say is "gospel". Go with your instinct on those things.

Just to reassure you , none of my babies started solids until after...waaay after 6 months. My 2 1/2 yo ds didn't start *really* eating until 12 months and even then it was very irregular.Some days he would some days he wouldn't, but he sure loved his boobs! He didn't actually touch any solids for the 1st time until 9 months.

And since when does BM loose it's nutritional value? What , all of the sudden our bodies say " oops , shut of the nutrients this kid is 1 yo!" ? I don't think so. Sounds to me like your ped has issues with extended BFing and is sadly uninformed.

Do what you feel is right for your family and do it with confidence :D

hunnybumm
07-13-2004, 10:32 PM
I got a lecture from one of the docs at our peds office as well at my sons 6 month check up. One ped said not to start solids until at least 6 months. This one said to start cereal at 4 months and solids at 6. Funny thing is this lady is also an LC. *sigh* Just go with your gut.

lovemygirl
07-13-2004, 10:32 PM
:jaw My jaw is STILL hangin open afer reading your post... I can NOT believe that she said those things to you and tried to retract his penis! OMGOSH! :cuss Run Run RUN! I would seriously consider a new doctor, and just like the others said she isn't a nutrionist but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that breastmilk doesn't lose its "nutritional" content after a year.
Gosh if she's so misinformed about those basics, think about what other stuff she is misinformed about. :yikes:

We dont' take my daughter to the peds office. Its such a waste of time for us. IMO, they think they know better but they really don't in some cases. My dd is 3 and I think we've been to the ped oh about 4 times ever. We prefer the chiropractor and the naturopath/homeopath doc when she is ill, but that is rare.

I would also consider a letter to the head honcho at that office and provide them with data about NOT retracting foreskin and the content of breastmilk and the benefits of extended breastfeeding. Its so sad---what are these docs afraid of? I guess maybe they won't get a kickback from the formula company if more peoepl breastfeed. Grrrrr :rant:

Aura_Kitten
07-13-2004, 10:33 PM
you know, if it were just the breastfeeding or the diapering stuff, i wouldn't be so shocked...

but for a pediatrician to be that obviously misinformed on so many issues...

i'd find a different doctor.

this really got me: "... if I didn't introduce them now that he would refuse them all together later..." i know pediatricians aren't nutritionists but this is just a silly thing to say. what, they're going to grow up drinking breastmilk for the rest of their life? :scratch my sister didn't start solids w/ her 2nd baby until just about 9 months... when her son grabbed a piece of her pizza and started eating it. :LOL :shrug

and the foreskin thing ~ :angry

shelbean91
07-13-2004, 10:51 PM
With all of that, I'd find a new ped.

Tiskin
07-13-2004, 10:52 PM
I'm sorry... That doctor is an idiot!!

Is this lady crazy, or am I? No, you're not crazy at all! In fact, we are all very proud of you for knowing your facts, and for stopping her from injuring your son's penis! :clap
I think you should switch doctors and consider sending a letter to her superior, because that woman is wrong on so many levels! I think she should be stopped before she gives her crappy info to any more mothers. God forbid someone might actually follow her advice!

2boys4me
07-13-2004, 10:53 PM
Hi everyone. Thanks for the replies and for ranting with me...LOL

My mother siad that I took everything she said "too personally".

Excuse me? Everything she said was PERSONAL. My children are my life and I make decisions based on what I think is best for them. When someone tells me that I'm doing it all wrong...Um, well, that's personal.

I didn't even mention that she brought up the flu vaccine, which will be a 'regularly given vaccine' starting this year. She thinks my concerns over that are not warranted. And that even though my children stay at home and are breastfed (which makes their chances of infection almost obsolete) that they could still pick up the virus, so it is best for me to bring them in this fall for the vaccine.

Huh? :confused:

UrbanPlanter
07-13-2004, 10:54 PM
I've never had a flu shot myself, and I've never given one to my child. Don't think I ever will. Don't let her steamroll you. Maybe you should find a new ped.

soccerchic21
07-14-2004, 12:05 AM
I've never had a flu shot myself, and I've never given one to my child. Don't think I ever will. Don't let her steamroll you. Maybe you should find a new ped.


I agree! I vax but I have never and probably will never get a flu shot and I definitely won't give one to my breastfed baby. And I never get the flu either just a winter cold and a summer cold. Weird.

I would find a new ped and when you switch send the lady the info from the AAP that says that they recommend breastfeeding for *at LEAST* a year and beyond.

She doesn't know her sh*t

Aura_Kitten
07-14-2004, 12:15 AM
i gave up flu shots a few years ago, because every single year i'd get one and then a month or two later, i'd get the flu! :angry

as soon as i stopped getting the shot regularly, i stopped getting the flu. :shrug

call me crazy but i think there's a correlation.

Evergreen
07-14-2004, 08:05 AM
OK, Mama, take a deep breath. COllect your thoughts. Open the Word program on your computer.

You Need tor write that letter. In fact, you need to write two of them. One to that idiot (sorry, I know this violates the user agreement, but it's the truth!) and one to whoever is in charge of her.

The poor advice about breastfeeding is one (absolutely terrible) thing, but please do not let her potentially hurt any other baby boys by prematurely retractint their foreskins! You owe them this.

Some things you might want to include in your letter include
1) how she contradicted the AAP's and WHO's recomendations on breastfeeding (atleast one and two years respectively). In the letter to her, I would make sure to ask why she felt she was more informed.

2) how the flu vaccine contains mercury

3) THe whole retraction incedent. Here is some good info to include in your letter.http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=129378 I can not stress this enough. Please, do not deley. DOn't let them hurt any other boys whose mamas may not be brave enough to advocate for them!

You can find some good info about breastfeeding and starting solids here
http://www.kellymom.com/

You have made all the right choices for your child. She is wrong. She needs to face the reprecussions, we are talking about the futures of other kids! You can do it, you are'nt crazy and you're not overreacting.

liam's mom
07-14-2004, 08:13 AM
I would absolutely be finding a new ped pronto.

Dragonfly
07-14-2004, 08:29 AM
I agree - write the letter and find a new ped, pronto. This woman is flat out not competent enough to care for your child. I mean, if a hairdresser were as ignorant about cutting hair as she is about the vital elements of your child's health, would you let that person near your head?

Ugh. Stupid, stupid doctors. :angry

Personally, I'd also file a complaint with the state medical board. Maybe she'll get a warning in addition to your letter and it might occur to her to step into the 21st century before she harms someone's child.

busybusymomma
07-14-2004, 08:37 AM
Wow... is this ped living in the 80s or something? :scratch

Write the letter, find a new ped... hurry! :bolt

The flu vaccine has been added to the roster for all children under age 2 and those who live in a household with children under 2. Sad, isn't it? My ped is okay with our family no-vax'ing- but the nurses automatically so "such and such shots today" and I say... "um, no- check the chart, we do not vax". :eyesroll

Wildcrafter
07-14-2004, 08:48 AM
DITCH HER!!!!!

She's is WAY uninformed about breastfeeding - it boggles my mind!

And if she tried to hurt your little son like that, I would be afraid of what's to come!

I had a few really sucky ped's at first (one told me I would never be able to satisfy the nutritional needs of my large baby!) and finally found a dr who at my nine mo. check up, said FABULOUS when she checked him over, I will never forget that one word! And she's supportive of no vaxing, co-sleeping etc. There ARE doctors out there who are more supportive of good motherhood.

Good luck in finding one!!!!!

Mary

sincitymama
07-14-2004, 09:09 AM
Yeah, what they all said! lol
Find a new ped as soon as you can, ideally before the next appointment. No way would I take my (intact, bf, non vaxed, 7mo, soon-to-be cd) ds to someone who told me all that.
If you're comfortable disclosing what area you live in, people might have suggestions. You could post a thread in finding your tribe too, and probably get more names of doctors.
If it makes you feel any better, or at least gives you a little hope for finding a good doc, my son also doesn't really take table foods yet, has never been retracted, I intend to nurse for at least a couple years. Our doc just usually asks what we're doing, says ok, and leaves it at that. We also do some other things outside of the mainstream parenting ideas that he doesn't seem to have a problem with, he doesn't blink about those either, and he's never asked about diapers. Usually he just seems happy to see such a healthy happy baby, and while he doesn't necessarily outright support everything we do, he tells us after looking at ds 'well whatever you're doing it's working'.

And all that was just to say that good doctors do exist. We drive a little farther for ours than is really necessary but for us it's completely worth it.

I would definitely write those letters too, that doc needs a major wake-up call.

Sustainer
07-14-2004, 09:31 AM
Run, do not walk, from that ped.

bec
07-14-2004, 09:42 AM
Yes, this lady is crazy. Find a new doc. Don't take your son back to her.

Honestly, the thought that children won't ever eat solid foods if they aren't introduced in a certain time frame is ridiculous. I don't know any 18 year olds who are still nursing! Well, other than that one girl in England, but that is different.


Bec

busybusymomma
07-14-2004, 11:45 AM
And all that was just to say that good doctors do exist. We drive a little farther for ours than is really necessary but for us it's completely worth it.


Yeah, we drive 30 miles to our ped... even if I found a doc in my town I would like and trust, the hospitals here in town are notorious for making mistakes and I can't take the chance should we ever need medical care.

Dragonfly
07-14-2004, 11:47 AM
And all that was just to say that good doctors do exist. We drive a little farther for ours than is really necessary but for us it's completely worth it.

:nod Ds' doctor is 45 minutes away. It's worth every minute of the drive to know that we'll be meeting with someone who respects and supports my parenting decisions and will be an advocate for him when needed.

UrbanPlanter
07-14-2004, 01:27 PM
I don't know any 18 year olds who are still nursing! Well, other than that one girl in England, but that is different.

sorry if OT, but have to ask - what girl in England???

Sustainer
07-14-2004, 04:00 PM
We must be talking about the girl who can't digest anything except breastmilk.

beaconlighthero
07-14-2004, 04:07 PM
Hi everyone. I am fuming and I need to vent to some like minded mamas...

My son had his 6 month check up today. My ped 'scolded' me for not starting solids yet...said that if I didn't introduce them now that he would refuse them all together later...

Then she told me that I should plan on weaning before he turns 12 months. She says breastmilk has no nutritional content after the first year...

Is she crazy? I couldn't belive what I was hearing. She was critical of my cloth diapers...and she tried to force the foreskin on my son's penis back. She said if she didn't so it that he would wind up with an infection and that the skin would adhere to the head of his penis. Thankfully, I stopped her before she id any damage to my son's penis.

But when I left, I was very upset by the whole visit. Does anybody have words of wisdom? Is this lady crazy, or am I? Any experience with holding off on sloids longer than 6 months?

I have felt awful since I left her office this morning. She made me feel as though I am doing everything wrong...

Ugh... :irked: :irked:



My goodness, I can't believe your ped. You are not doing anything wrong, What is the big deal about wearing cloth diapers, why are people so negative about it. And if you want to nurse your dc longer, is it really hurting anything? (of course not!) soda has no nutritional content, but people still drink it. yeesh! I don't think holding off on solids will hurt anything either. And trying to force back the foreskin, that is going too far, if you did'nt have it cut off yourself then obviously it is suppose to be there and should not be retracted.


UGGHHHHHH!


I can see why you are fumming. :hug

Sustainer
07-14-2004, 05:37 PM
Soda is bad for you, and I could understand someone saying you shouldn't give it to a baby. But breastmilk is not only not bad for a toddler, it is incredibly good for them! It is the *best* toddler food. And delaying solids is also not only not bad, but actually a *good* idea. Both breastfeeding beyond infancy and delaying solids are beneficial practices, nutritionally speaking, and also for other reasons.

MamaAllNatural
07-14-2004, 06:03 PM
To the OP, that is terrible. I won't get lengthy. I agree you need to ditch the Ped, write a letter etc. I'm sorry you had to deal w/that. Glad you caught her before she hurt his penis. I think everyone's already said plenty so I'll just sum it up with...

:jaw :angry :shake :dropjaw :irked: :hammer :tsk

oh and I just wanted to reinforce what Sustainer said.

Soda is bad for you, and I could understand someone saying you shouldn't give it to a baby. But breastmilk is not only not bad for a toddler, it is incredibly good for them! It is the *best* toddler food. And delaying solids is also not only not bad, but actually a *good* idea. Both breastfeeding beyond infancy and delaying solids are beneficial practices, nutritionally speaking, and also for other reasons.

:nod :thumb

mum2 4
07-14-2004, 06:21 PM
Your peds comments about eating are so typical of the '60s onward. If someone delayed solids they were told baby would never learn to eat from a spoon as well as forever foresake food. At the time this was babies one or two months old. And for those who listened, their milk supply never met a growth spurt and was long gone before age one. I often wonder if there is a course in med school titled Dire Predictions. Pontifical doctors tend to use them for all sorts of advice and make themselves sound so positive but so under educated to Moms who have a brain. Dare we take a chance? Of course, we do it every day a thousand times over...