February Mamas July 25-August 1

[weesej]

Welcome the first mamas to the SECOND Trimester :carrot The rest of us will be there soon. Let's have a week of calm stomachs :D

Kater07 February
Chiku due Feb 1 birthing center
Parker'smommy (Heather) due Feb 1
Lisashepp (Lisa) due Feb 1
Sadkitty. Due Feb 1st
Dandylion (Stephanie) due Feb 2
Truvie due Feb 2
PeacefulVegan (who also answers to Tracie) due Feb 3
Lou due Feb 3
Twin Mom (Deb) Due Feb 4, VBA2C homebirth
Free Thinker (Mandy) due Feb 5
HelloKitty (Kitty) due Feb 6
Letabug (Arleta) due Feb 6
LianneM due Feb 7 homebirth
TexasSuz (Susan) due Feb 7
Happymamajenni (Jenni) due Feb 7 hospital/OBGYN
LesleyLuu (Lesley) due Feb 7 (or 9th?) hospital/OBGYN
DeirdreAlison (Deirdre) due 1st week Feb homebirth, maybe waterbirth
New Life Due Feb 8
Shannon 0218- due Feb 11 hospital birth with great OB
ella-makes-3 (Jasmine) - due ~ Feb. 11 midwife/natural birth at birth center
Tug due Feb 12
Firefly due Feb 13
Christi due Feb 14 hospital birth with fab OB
Periwinkle (Karen) due Feb 14
Fairymomma (Pamela) due Feb 14
Jorie (Margorie) due Feb 14
AmBam (Amber) due Feb 14 homebirth
Wtchyhlr (Joy) due Feb 14
rose angel (Karen) due Feb 16
mama2m&m (Denise) due Feb 16
HydeParkB due Feb 17
Karennnnn (Karen) due Feb 17
Coopsmama (Kristen) Due Feb 17
Shyly (Monica) Due Feb 17
Gretchen Due Feb 18
weesej (Jen) Due Feb 19 homebirth
mehndimama (Stell) due Feb 22 unassisted homebirth
*Amy* (Amy) due Feb 20 birthing center/possible water birth...?
heveasoul due Feb 21, h/b with m/w
woolfairy (Elle) due Feb 27, baby #2 homebirth
Ekblad7 due Feb 28
KateSt. Late Feb. Homebirth
Chloe'sMummy #2

[weesej]

OK ladies. Tummy is starting to feel a little better. Woke up after sleeping 4 and 1/2 hours last night (I usually wake up every 2 to eat), and OOH was I regretting it, but if my tummy isn't getting me up as frequently its getting better.

I am so sad. Katie is having more bottles than mama milk. I have been trying SO SO hard to keep my supply up, but she was so hungry! Started supplementing and she needed it. Now when she nurses there is so little milk, even after 6-8 hours. SHe just bites and pulls and tugs and squeezes like she is trying to get every drop out. Even as a newborn she never nursed for comfort (totally unlike DD #1), she is a thumb sucker and it is almost as if she doesn't see the point in sucking on a boob if there isn't gonna be much milk :irked: She is going to be 9 months this week, so it is just TOO young for me:(

Will try and get a heartbeat again tommorow. The senior midwife will be in with the stronger doppler, so I should be able to hear it:)

[*Amy*]

Good morning all. :)

I had another baby dream again last night - I dreamed again that the baby is a girl. The dream started out in labor/delivery and I ended up having an epidural and a c-section! :eek In my dream though, I wasn't really upset about either; I think I felt that they were both necessary for the baby. Anyway, they pulled her out and said, "it's a girl!!" and I was so ecstatic. The dreamed continued into later that day and night when we were home (of course, no post-surgery pain or anything. :D ) and Baby Brynn was crying in the night, so I determined that she was hungry. We got out of bed so I could go sit in the rocking chair...and just holding her in my arms was the most wonderful feeling, I can't even describe it. It was the most intense feeling of happiness and connectedness. Pure bliss. :love

Gosh I can't WAIT to get my hands on this baby!!!!

I hope everyone has a good Monday and a great week! I get to hear the baby's heartbeat, and go see Sting in concert, AND go to my favorite town, Athens Georgia to see my best friend get married. All my favorite things in one week!!

Feel good vibes to Shannon, Weesej and everyone else feeling crappy. :sunshine

[ekblad9]

Subscribing.

I can feel the m/s lifting but this darn UTI is making me feel like crap. Anyway, this week will be spent trying to get back on track with everything I've lost control of the last 6 wks.

1st things 1st, though, I need to call the doc as soon as they open and get an antibiotic.

:hug to everyone!

[shannon0218]

Good morning everyone! Jen, thanks for starting the new thread :)
I get to go home today!!! Yippeee!!! I miss my dogs so much. My doc has basically ordered the home care so I can have as much fluids or gravol as I think I need, she said if I'm doing well that day I can decide not to hang as much but if I'm feeling lousy there will be enough stuff there for me to be constant fluids and gravol every 4 hrs. She also changed it to a dextrose and potassium solution instead of just normal saline as that seems to have helped alot with my energy.
So this week, as of thursday I will be 12 weeks, I'm so excited, I feel like once I'm over that hump things will get better.

[Lousli]

Shannon, I'm so glad you get to go home! Yay for being almost 12 weeks, I know that is comforting to you. I really do think it will start to get better in your second trimester (which is not all that far away now!) I know what you mean about missing your pets. I get homesick and catsick (that sounds gross, but you know what I mean) when I have to be away too long.

ekblad and weesej, Glad to hear the m/s is easing up. Ekblad, UTI's sound so awful! I have been fortunate enough to have never gotten one, but my sister does and man do they sound like the worst! I hope yours goes away really soon so you can feel better.

Weesej, thanks for the new thread. I hope you get to hear that heartbeat soon! I'm sorry that you're having supply issues with nursing. My main nursing problem is PAIN! It didn't hurt at first, but now when she latches on it's like eeeeooowww! Do you happen to know if fenugreek is safe while pregnant? I know it can be used to boost supply.

As for me, I'm sitting here with butterflies in my tummy. First day of school! Yes, even the teachers get nervous. It is a little nerve-wracking to see what kind of class I'll get, will they be calm or a little wild, high or low academically, and will I be able to pronounce everyone's name?! So, I have to go get ready pretty soon, but wanted to check in and subscribe.

Take care everyone! happy almost second trimester! When does that start, btw, after 13 weeks?

[ekblad9]

I love you guys answering each person by name! I'm SO bad at that! Maybe I'll get better as I feel better. Anyway, still haven't heard from the doc. I'm dieing here. I feel like my bladder is going to fall through to the ground. I'm not m/s yet, though, so I've been cleaning and doing laundry and I think all the kids are dressed! :) Anyway, take care everyone.

[KateSt.]

Weesj -- thanks for starting this thread! I do hope you get to hear that beautiful :heartbeat tomorrow.

Lesley -- I'm nervous for you just reading your post. First day of school jitters -- I feel for you! I hope your class is as wonderful as predicted.

Shannon -- so happy you get to go home. And Yay! for being almost 12 weeks! I hope things start to go a lot more smoothly for you then. Warm and loving thoughts your way.

Ekblad -- so sorry you're struggling with this uti. I do hope you start to feel better soon.

Amy -- your dream sounds wonderful! (I think, though, perhaps it was a 'visit.') How beautiful and magical. I love baby dreams -- I only wish I had them more often.

I got to hold a 5 month old baby this morning -- he was the cutest little smiliest boy with dimples. I almost started crying because he was so precious. I, too, can't wait to get my hands on my baby!

I'm going on 11 weeks this week --- can't wait to hit that 12 week mark!
Have a wonderful Monday, ladies.

[milk_maker]

Hi! I normally don't post in the week of threads, but I hope you guys don't mind if I start to join in.

I've been feeling pretty good lately. Still mild nausea in the evenings and I just can't bring myself to eat much right now. I'd lost two pounds when I went to the doctor last week, but my midwife wasn't too concerned. I'm at a pretty normal weight now, but I'm still worried because I was so thin before I got pg. I just don't want to lose anymore weight, but I have absolutely no appetite. I have to force myself to eat and usually feel nauseated afterwards...ugh. I can't wait for this to pass.

ekblad, I hope your UTI starts to feel better soon. I've btdt several times and I'm so scared I'll get one while I'm pregnant since I seem to get them pretty regularly. I hope you can get in touch w/ your doctor and get the antibiotics soon. I wonder if you can take that pill I always get prescribed...the one that turns your pee orange...I know it helps with the discomfort.

[ekblad9]

OK, they called back, finally! They're calling in an antibiotic for me. I'll go get it soon. I was feeling pretty good this morning. Even took my prenatal vitamin. I'm pretty tired now and the day's only half gone. Ugh. The kids are ganging up on me. I'll be 11 wks tomorrow. Like many of you, I can't wait to hit 12 wks.

[wtchyhlr]

Well, just got back from getting bloodwork done. With my thyroid history (i;m severely hypothyroid), my family doc wants me to get levels checked monthly for the duration of my pregnancy. So does my midwife. so I've been vampired. I am getting to the point where i really don't like needles. I've never had an issue with them before, maybe its a hormone thing. But i did not like it.


ekblad - hooray - drugs are you friend.
shannon - so glad you're home today.
shyly - i've heard its normal to lose weight first trimester. i've actually gained like 7 lbs (because up til i got my BFP i was hardcore dieting, and had to stop that... and start eating carbs again... 7lbs later.... well... its all for a good thing)
Lesley - what grade do you teach
Kate - ME TOO - I want that magic 12 week mark to get here (okay, for me its here Friday, but still... come on already)
Amy - awesome dream :)

[*Amy*]

Yay Ekblad and Shannon! Good news for both of you! :thumb

Hey I've been meaning to ask if any of y'all have experienced any discomfort related to increased blood volume. For the past week or so, I have had these weird achy pains in my forearms, almost between my bones. It doesn't feel like nerve pain or carpal tunnel; it actually feels like pressure from within my veins. I know this sounds really weird if you haven't experienced it.

I'm 10w1d today, and for the past few days I have been feeling a whole lot better. I'm still much more tired than usual, but my appetite is returning to normal and I haven't had any nausea in days (but I think that's partially because I started taking my vitamins at night rather than in the morning). I had forgotten how good it feels to feel good!! :D

[ekblad9]

Alright, Amy, how are you 10w1day and due 5 days before me? Don't set me back sister! When I had my ultrasound they had it timed exact. Did they give me the wrong due date?

[*Amy*]

LOL! I don't think so - my EDD is 2/20. My LMP was 5/16, and I know with 100% certainty that we conceived on 5/30. Am I farther than 10w1d?

Edited to include link to pregnancy wheel:

MedCalc pregnancy wheel (http://www.medcalc.com/pregwheel.html#?441,470)

I set it to my coordinates, but I'm not sure if you will get them when you pull it up.

[ekblad9]

OK, my lmp was 5/6 but I ovulated late on day 18 instead of the usual 14. Argh, whatever, LOL. I just can't go back a week! :)

[ekblad9]

OMG, I'm a moron and can't even run that wheel. :LOL

[*Amy*]

LOL, Ekblad, try this one (http://www.fetalmedicine.ac.uk/gw/html/wheel.html) ; it takes into account your cycle length and gives you lots of other groovy info.

It says I'm 10w4d and that my EDD is 2/17/05, so... :shrug I'll go with that though! This is the only one I've seen that takes cycle length into account, and since mine was 25 days rather than 28, it may make a slight difference.

Cool!

[Lisashepp]

I am 13 weeks today!!!

Still feeling awful most days though, but I have added more protein to my diet (very hard considering everything I am avoiding) and that has helped some.

[mehndi mama]

Finally, I caught a weekly thread more toward the beginning!
We moved back home from camping, and my m/s is back, unfortunately. Oh well - at least I have more room in my refrigerator when I'm home!
I've been feeling either too full or too empty stomach-wise lately - very uncomfortable. It's like I can't find a happy medium!

I ordered a Cuddlebuns pattern yesterday so I could make some newborn diapers that are a tried-and-true size - I've got a Wool-in-one design on my mind, and can't wait to try it out! I don't do very much baby preparation anymore, so diaper-sewing is something I splurge on. Well, i don't really splurge - I'm still working with recycled clothes....but it's a time-splurge, yk?

DS is cooking lunch for us all right now - yay! My favorite foods at this point are anything I don't have to cook myself. Subway is my friend.

[weesej]

ekblad I would have you due Feb 15 and 11 weeks

Amy your by my calc would be the 17th and 10 weeks 5 days

Took into account cycle differences on both.

I swear I am feeling movement today. Now I think I will get an U/S and see if my dates are right. I was unsure of when LMP was because I was mid move, so I totally guessed. And M/S started earlier than it usually does. Guess well see??

[Christi]

HI I can't chat. I'm just subscribing :)

[Periwinkle]

Subscribing.

Also thread title should be July 25-July31

:D

Sorry... I love starting to read a new thread at the beginning of a week... it's like a little celebration of a whole other week closer to due date!! :love

[milk_maker]

I agree Periwinkle. It's one week closer to when I get to have my baby. :love

[*Amy*]

Y'all .... :bawl I just spilled water on my laptop!! :crying It turned itself off because it got so mad. I called my tech support at school and they said to leave it off for 24 hours and it *might* come back on, but probably not.

I'm using DH's right now and I'm just so upset. There is so much data on that damn thing that I haven't backed up in a while, not to mention I don't really have an extra $1000 lying around to replace it.

Please send your vibes, if you can spare them, that
1. it will be covered by our renter's insurance
2. the data can be recovered from the hard drive

I feel like a big stupid idiot. :guilty

[ekblad9]

OK, Amy, I did that one. It has me due Feb 15 and I'm 11wks 4 days today. I hope the m/s goes away soon but that the baby is a little late. My ds1's 13th birthday is on Feb 16. He's the sweetest kid in the world and says he would love to share his birthday with a baby brother or sister but I think he deserves his own glory. :)

Sorry about your computer. I have totally done that before. All has turned out fine once it's dried out. Good luck! :hug

[heveasoul]

wow - go away for a few days, and there is a lot to catch up on! :)

oh man, Shannon, sorry I missed the fact that you were in hospital again! :hugs. Glad to hear you're back home and have a bit more energy. You're so close to your second tri!

:hugs to everyone feeling icky - :(

I had a great weekend - swam in a lake (despite the nonsense written in fit pregnancy, I think it was - they were talking about in in the "I'm pregnant" threads.) - heavenly! Had great weather, and ate well, and went for a short hike, and even had some outdoor lovin' while our hosts went into town (dh had scouted out a nice mossy spot on top of a big rock face while tooling around in the kayak :LOL).

I'm going to miss the daily naps, though...groan....back to work tomorrow...!

[mehndi mama]

What, someone says you're not supposed to swim in lakes while pregnant? Oh brother. I've been practically LIVING in the lake for the last month! Never felt better!

[heveasoul]

Yeah - the thread is here (http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=172690).

[shannon0218]

Hi everyone, I'm home and have had a nap on my own couch. Amy, I spilled water on my old laptop, it came back, then I spilled wine and beer on it, the red wine was it's last straw. Open it up and sit it over a towel keyboard down so it's like a tent, that will dry it out quicker. Even when I killed mine for good, we were able to recover the hard drive with no issue, the power source is the first thing to go.
Ekblad, I hope you get relief soon, I hate UTI's.
Here's one for you, on the what the hell do men think about subject. I get home after 3 days in hospital, I go in the bathroom and he's put up the new towel bars and such--he of course has not painted the bathroom so the new stuff looks like absolute crap. I then go into the kitchen and he has not touched the dishes, including the pan of spagetti sauce still sitting on the stove from Thursday night--which of course has mold on it. I know when I ask him about this, he'll tell me he didn't have time to do them with all the running around he was doing. What he absolutely won't get is that I find it odd that he did have time to put up new towel bars, oil his boots (and I know he looked for quite some time to find the boot oil cause it was with my training equipment) So he has time or finds the time for useless stuff, but can't seem to find the time to either shave his scruffy face or do the damn dishes so his sick wife doesn't have to come home to moldy spagetti sauce on the stove!!!!!!!!
Ok, rant over.
Well, off to hang another bag of gravol and maybe eat something.

[ekblad9]

Men are odd. My dh doesn't touch the dishes. Never, ever. My 12 year old son, however, does. Dh doesn't clean the bathrooms or do much of anything, frankly. This sickness has made me pretty bitter towards him. He makes comments like "when are your friends coming to clean the house" and stuff like that. :eyesroll There's a special place in hell for men like that. :LOL

[wtchyhlr]

anyone know if there's an OTC sinus headache remedy safe during pregnancy? I thought i was going to rip my face off earlier.

isntead i took a hot shower and an hr long nap. and feel remarkably better. But i'm not even taking my allegra becauase i just don't want to chance it an my allergies have gone nutty.

[ekblad9]

I was always told Sudafed was safe. Also Clariton, which I believe is OTC now. I took it the whole time I was pg the last two times. I know how you feel. My sinuses are killing me but I'm already on Prozac and an antibiotic. I can't take anything else! :) Oh, I have to use this smilie: :rocks

[wtchyhlr]

Thanks Ekblad... if it gets this bad again, I may cave and get some sudafed. That is, if i don't have 2 hrs to fill with shower/nap.

[*Amy*]

Good morning all,
Thanks for the hopeful vibes, Shannon and Ekblad. I set the computer in front of the fan overnight and I'll probably give it a try tonight or tomorrow. The good news is that it is covered by insurance and my brother and DH seem to think that recovering the data won't be a problem. :fingersx:

Well today I should be able to hear the heartbeat!! :heartbeat :heartbeat :heartbeat Our m/w appointment is at 3:00 so I will try to report back before we head out to the Sting & Annie Lennox concert (yay!). I have been looking forward to this day for WEEKS!

Hope everyone has a good day today! :wave

[ekblad9]

Yippee for the heartbeat! I should get to hear mine on Thursday. I think that makes such a big difference. Makes it seem more real or something. Have fun at the concert!!!

I was up sick all night. I'm never up sick at night. I don't get it. I'm thinking maybe the antibiotics made me sick? I don't know but I feel like crap today and it's raining and I want to stay in bed all day!

Anyway, hope you're all doing well. :hug

[tug]

joy - i know this will sound weird, but here is a suggestion for sinus headaches: take a massage wand (or whatever they are called) and "vibrate" the sinus areas around your head (i usually focus on the passages by the nose). believe it or not, it seems to shake stuff up and loose and ease the pressure. when i was pregnant with my first, i was a real freak about meds so i did this instead. another thing i did, and i think this is the "traditional" cure, was to put my face over a pot of steaming water and inhale with a towel over my head. it's all undignified (and the massage wand thing makes me sneeze), but then pretty much everything i'm doing now is pretty undignified, so not much diff.

oh, i can also sympathize with the thyroid/vampire issue. i have the same thing. i'm a weasel about it too, i would wait so that instead of going exactly every month, i was kind of stretching so i could go one fewer times. i really believe that my body tells me when i'm not getting enough thyroid hormone (my feet will really hurt when i get out of bed or get up after sitting for a while).

thought i was feeling better but had a massive bout of m/s this morning. i think it might be because ds kept us up half the night (not sure what that was about....teething?)

got a new easy care hair cut this weekend! it looks really messy but it is easy (no point combing when it looks this messy anyway). :)

amy, hope the computer is ok!

[ekblad9]

tug - I'm desperate for a new, easy haircut. Got any pictures? I've been toying around with a few for a month now but not sure what I want to do yet. Don't want short hair to make me look fatter than I already am! :LOL

[tug]

it's kind of fuzzy but maybe you get the basic idea:

http://www.loyno.edu/~jmguill/Journal/index.php?i=3

i had longish hair in a bluntish cut before and looked pretty plump, so i think this is an improvement. it's sort of like reba mcentire's hair (from that show "reba") but messier and dishwater brown instead of that adorable red. so far, it's very easy. the stylist said it would look better with some "product." yeah, no doubt. and no doubt she wasn't up all night with her ds singing ridiculous songs. there's another picture of it from farther away (while ds eats an entire basket of blueberries):
http://www.loyno.edu/~jmguill/Journal/index.php?i=4

and now, a shameless plug for my cutie pie, applauding former president carter's speech at the democratic national convention:
http://www.loyno.edu/~jmguill/Journal/index.php

[ekblad9]

Of course the last picture is the cutest, :LOL But I love the hair cut! I may have to do that very soon! :)

[woolfairy]

I'm subscribing too! EDD 2/27/05 with #2 and planning a 2nd homebirth. Of course I'm off for a week starting tomorrow, but I did want to say hi!

Elle

[ekblad9]

:wave Welcome Elle! Nice to meet you! :D

[shannon0218]

Welcome Elle!
Well, I"m back home, but still feeliing cruddy, I'm not sure why I figured leaving the hospital would solve all my problems :eyesroll
I have had a headache for 3 days now and it's driving me nuts. The nurse will be here shortly, I had a horrible time flushing the picc line last night, I hope that's not a really bad sign, I sure don't want to go back to IV's that only last a couple days.

[AmBam]

Hi Everyone!! I haven't had time to catch up, I just wanted to say hi. I was off line for almost 3 weeks!! We are finally in our new house (it's far from new but new to us)
I am excited to be moved... just wish the boxes would unpack themselves! ;) I hope everyone is enjoying happy healthy pregnancies! I am feeling okay. I will be glad when I am over feeling yucky. But I shouldn't complain because compared to most I have it soooo easy!! I am excited to be able to chat with you ladies again! Hope all is well! I will check back later!

[milk_maker]

Have any of you tried using slim fast or another drink like it when your stomach's empty to help prevent m/s. My friend suggested it and I bought a single can and gave it a shot. It really helped w/ my nausea, but I'm worried that it might not be the best thing for me to be drinking since it's chock full of chemicals.

Also, a friend I work with gave me tickets to see Kiss and Poison tonight. I'm not too big of a fan of either, but DH was a card carrying Kiss Army member when he was younger...still has his Kiss dog tags in the car. In fact, he wanted to name our unborn child Ace Frehley (barf). I'll have a blast just because I love concerts, but I am certainly going to have a new experience tonight.

[wtchyhlr]

I'd run away from Slimfast, primarily because of the Aspartame used to sweeten it.

Before I was pregnant, I loved Myoplex (basically a higher protein version of slimfast, they sell it to bodybuilders) for queasy days... however it also has lots of aspartame and other icky chemicals in it. the thing that helps my queasies is peanut butter, amazingly enough.

[KateSt.]

Hi Monica and Joy -- I've been down the slimfast and the myoplex routes myself in the past. What I love now is Hood's Carb Countdown Chocolate Milk (it's in the dairy section). It's sweetened with Splenda which doesn't have the side effects of aspartame -- and it's really yummy! It doesn't have the chemicals and other "funny stuff" like the protein shakes I used to drink, and it is very satisfying. (Boy, I should do a commercial! :eyesroll )

Welcome Back, Ambam. Good luck unpacking. Moving is my least favorite thing to do! Hope things start to settle down soon.

Shannon -- I'm so bummed to hear of your continuing problems! I do hope you don't have to deal with this throughout your whole pregnancy. Sending warm and healing vibes your way.

Welcome Elle! I've always loved your name. Enjoy your vacation!

Tug, your little boy is just the cutest. He must be the joy of your life.

Amy, so looking forward to hearing your update about the heartbeat. I hope you found it right away.

Wtchyhlr -- I recommend using a neti pot for sinus problems. I started using one about a year ago -- and I swear by it. I think that's one of the main reasons I haven't been sick in a very long time (knock on wood). Most health food stores carry them. I hope you feel better soon.

Hevea -- your weekend away sounds wonderful and I'm so glad you enjoyed your swimming!

[ekblad9]

OMG, sorry, but I have to vent. So I made myself and dh lunch (dh comes home for lunch). And when I was upstairs helping dd2 with something, dh came home and ate my lunch and his lunch! WTF? I'm so pissed. He doesn't help me one bit during this whole time of m/s and I make him lunch and he eats them both. :(

[kater07]

We have our 1st prenatal appt today. I am 12 weeks LMP today, and feeling a bit better. I am not 100% by any means, but I feel a bit better.

DH isn't able to go to the appt. with me. I am sad about this as is he. There's just too much going on at work on a day like today (too much to explain) and not enough people on his team to cover him even for a few hours. Sigh...

Anywho, I am nervous b/c I heard good things about this practice then all of a sudden got bombarded by very negative thoughts about them. I have one other option if this one doesn't seem to fit.

Cheers!

[tug]

ekblad - since you just vented, now probably isn't the time to laugh, but it really is a little funny. well, maybe not to someone who's been m/s'ing and probably had barely enough energy to make one lunch. can i hug and laugh a little bit?

kater07, hope the appt goes well!!

[*Amy*]

Ekblad, do you want me to come over and Ninja chop (http://www.realultimatepower.net) him??! I will.

[letabug]

shyly-if we were still in NC we would so be going to that concert a buddy of ours who is still at Camp Lejeune got free tickets and was going but now his leave got pushed up and he can't. There is nothing else to do around there hardly. We're not really big fans either but it is something fun to do!!!

I think I am the only person in the world who is sicker in her 2nd trimester than her 1st if it is like with ds I will be sick until the premature labor starts......oh the depression :irked: we did move ds into a toddler bed, well it is a babymattress on the floor right now b/c he can't walk yet and falls out of the toddler bed. I think we will put both kids in the same room and have a toy room still. Yuck I think I will take a nap.


Take care!!

[tug]

hi letabug - we have our ds in a mattress on the floor too. he hates his crib right now but we're worried a regular bed is too high. how do you keep him in it at night though? james is out every 2 seconds.

[*Amy*]

Dang. :irked: Didn't get to hear the heartbeat. During my exam, my m/w said that she could tell that my uterus is inclined towards my spine rather than tummy, so she said, "we might not be able to hear it." Sure enough, I guess the little whoosh-whoosh wasn't loud enough to make it through all of that tissue. I told her I hadn't been able to feel my fundus, and she said she couldn't feel it through my abdominal wall either; she felt it from the internal exam though and said I'm right on for 10 weeks. At least that was good news. She said that I could come back in about 2 weeks and we'll try again. I know it's nothing to be worried about, but it was kind of disappointing after all of this waiting....

She also said I'm within the window to get an ultrasound to screen for Down Syndrome. I'm not necessarily at risk, but I'm seriously considering it because thus far I haven't had any kind of serious reassurance that the baby is OK (no beta levels, no heartbeat, etc). It would be pretty hard for me to pass it up.

So that's it. We're off to see my boyfriend, Sting. :)

[weesej]

I heard the Heartbeat:)

Went to a surprise breech birth last night. Lots of fun! Had prenatals all day and did my first PAP Smear, fun, fun. Tired now:)

Amy think long and hard what you would want to learn from the testing. It will use an US to measure the back of the baby's neck. It is not really a guarantee either way that things are ok or not. WHat would you do if the test result was bad??? They cannot confirm until about 18 weeks with an amnio. You would have to decide wether to keep or abort the baby based on a test that has a 20% false negative (miss a case of Down's) and a 5% false positive (Think something is wrong, and its not--1 in 20 times) If you decide to wait and do the amnio, you then are waiting for more results and then need to make a decision again. It can lead to alot of worry and 20% of the time a baby has Down's the test doesn't even pick it up. Trust your body, stay patient and go hear that heart beating away in a few weeks.

[kater07]

My appointment was boring.

I did hear the HB, and while most of you are waiting desperately for that moment, I could have done without it. I only have that done for my DH, and he wasn't there. :( The nurse was thrilled. Whatever... Sorry that so many of you are waiting to hear it, and I am just not over joyed by the sound.

The MW was nice and even my DS liked her. He hates all people in scrubs, and he liked her. He got upset every time I lay down on the table and ended up sitting next to me. It was precious. He was far more interesting than my appt.

The MW did prescribe some Darvocet for my headaches, and it didn't help a lick today. She was supposed to give me something for nausea, but we got caught up discussing why I won't have an u/s at this point and she forgot my other script. Sigh... calling for that tomorrow.

I have lost 4lbs since finding out I am PG, but that's just by my scale since today was my first "official" weight check.

I am puking every night now rather than just now and then. My head kills every day, and my house is a pig sty. I feel horrible looking at it, but I don't wanna clean either. My poor DH just shakes his head. He's given up asking me to clean. I know he's sick to death of me being so "lazy".

I'd love to find a PT job this week. I need some time for just me, and working is the only way to get alone time without having to take DS. He needs some serious Daddy time any way. So, please wish me luck while I look for a small PT job. I really feel that I need to do this for me and my family.

Hope everyone is feeling better!

Sorry I am not more positive today. Maybe if I wasn't so sick at the MWs office or feeling like crapola now, I'd be happier. I must say that I have never been so proud of my DS as I was today as he sat ever so patiently while I filled out paperwork, had my exam, heard the HB and he even shared his Buzz doll with the MW. He turned 2 yeasterday, and he did WAY more than should ever be expected of any small child. I am sooooo proud of him! :throb


Think 2nd Trimester!
Katie

[Periwinkle]

Hi everyone! :wave

I am so much to catch up on. I've had a crazy week from you-know-where.

I had my 2nd OB appointment today and we heard the :heartbeat with the doppler which was pretty exciting because I have a tipped uterus, so I was all prepared not to hear it.

Also, my OB said I can stop the progesterone. He said something to the effect of "you probably never needed it anyway because you didn't miscarry" and I was like :eek and then :scratch. Whatever. Shannon and others - can you just stop taking it cold or do you need to wean yourself off? I am kicking myself for not following up with more questions but they were REALLY running behind today and I was late getting home to the kids and my OB was practically running down the hall. Grrr - big ding to both of us.

So I had my first dream about the baby. I dreamed I had an easy breeze of a VBAC :banana lying flat on my back on a hospital bed in stirrups :LOL (hey, some 30-year engrained mental images die hard). I delivered a 9 lb 2 oz. :bigeyes baby girl with a full head of dark brown hair. She looked just like a girl version of my son, which is funny because everyone says that ds looks exactly like dh and dd looks exactly like me... so a dd looking more like dh's side of the family would be funny indeed. I tried to nurse her immediately but she wouldn't latch on, but I wasn't worried because she was just tired. Boy I really hope I have a good natural nurser -- I have zero experience initiating nursing because dd and ds were early and I started with a breastpump... it was a couple of months til I was able to wean them off EBM and just nurse exclusively. Hmmm.... I think this clearly must be a worry more present in my mind than I thought. That reminds me, I have to find an LLL group around where I live.

OK, I'm going back now to re-read all posts, but one did catch my eye...

Splenda a.k.a. sucralose is NOT a safe alternative to asparatame. If it were me and there were a gun to my head, I'd actually take the aspartame -- FAR more is known about that and it's been on the market for years compared to Splenda. Splenda/sucralose is actually banned in several countries and many adverse effects HAVE been reported and more is starting to be learned. No artificial sweeteners are safe during pregnancy (or when not pregnant, but that's another story). If you want a sweetener, just use good old fashioned sugar or honey, or if you have glucose problems, use powdered crystalized fructose (i.e., just natural fruit sugar), which doesn't impact blood glucose levels like plain sucrose (sugar) does. Stevia is also good for some things, but I have no direct evidence of its safety (though I hear its fine, it is an herb and like all herbs one should research it before using during pregnancy).

Let me know if you want more stuff - links, etc etc - but any Google search on sucralose+risks will land you in the right spots.

[ekblad9]

I'm sick, sick, sick. I am so tired of this. I feel lazy and unorganized and like the worst mother in the world. I don't know how much longer I can stand this. :(

[lasofia]

I'm sick, sick, sick. I am so tired of this. I feel lazy and unorganized and like the worst mother in the world. I don't know how much longer I can stand this. :(

Interesting, I was going to post something simliar (including, I'm so TIRED of throwing up) but reading it from you, I say:

You are NOT lazy. you are building a baby. it takes a lot of energy. and bad nausea takes out more of you. But that doesn't mean you're a bad mother, or that I am. Our children know we still love them. this will pass, and we can focus more on kiddos and chores again, and not just survival. It will be ok. We'll have a good day or too soon, and then we'll be grumpy when the bad ones come back, but then the good ones will slowly overtake the bad ones, and we'll be... functional again!

Promise.

[ekblad9]

Thank you. :hug Right after I posted that I lost it. I had my seven year old lay down with my 20 month old so dh could get my anti nausea meds but it was too late. I was throwing up and crying and the stupid toilet paper roll holder thingy fell off the wall while I was throwing up. It was a bad scene. I scared the heck out of my three year old. The older boys hid out in my oldest son's room with the kitties. I feel awful still. I guess I just feel like I shouldn't be pregnant. Does that make sense? Like, I already have five kids, I know how sick being pg makes me and I brought it on myself. So there's lots of guilt wrapped up in this. Sorry to go on and on. Thanks for listening. Back to bed.

Hoping for a better tomorrow.

[Periwinkle]

Oh ekblad :hug

I am so sorry you are feeling so crappy and down on yourself. You are doing the hardest thing possible to do and no one ever said being blessed with 5 children (and 5 sick pregnancies) already means you're not just as desrving of a m/s-free pregnancy as anyone else. In a couple of weeks AT MOST you will be feeling better. :hug Hang in there.

[Christi]

Hi There
I'm sorry to hear about all of the m/s. I hope everyone feels better soon.

So I've had the best two days since finding out I was preg. I've been hoping for this to come soon but whenthe m/s does lighten up I get scared, KWIM? I remember this from my first two pregnancies. It just happens overnight. It is such a wierd feeling to feel good again.

On the other hand I made the zucchini bread that was posted here. It was sooo yummy. My family ate it up. I'm sorry I dont' remember who posted it but thank you. I don't have time to look upp the post. I made on loaf with choc chips and one plain. I love zucchini bread.

I go in for another Dr appt next tuesday. Hopefully I will hear the heartbeat. I also have a tipped uterues. I wonder how common it is to have a tipped one.
I've got to go to bed so Good night everyone

[woolfairy]

Ekblad7 I am so sorry you are feeling so crummy. And to have Dh eat your lunch? Well, that just sucks. I think I would unleash some of my hormones on him for that. :)

And to everyone else - thanks so much for the warm welcome! I hope to get a bit more involved when I get back in town - family wedding and all that. Not much of a vacation. Oh well, DH swears that before this one arrives we should take an actual vacation since we haven't managed one in all our 10 years together.

Maybe...

Elle
and DS #1 who is 3 and someone else due 2/27ish

[ekblad9]

My uterus is tipped as well. So are almost all of my girlfriend's. Maybe we're all normal and the medical books are wrong. :LOL

I have to make it to the grocery store today. One way or another. UGH. Also would like to get the kids outside. We'll see.

:hug to everyone.

[ella-makes-3]

Good morning all, and welcome to Elle. Great name, but dd is called Ella, so I am not sure that it would work. I am confused enough already, just with her, hubby and the pets!!
I am sending lots of feel good vibes to everyone who is feeling terrible, especially ekblad. I wish I was close by to help you out.
The zucchini bread sounds yummy. I have to write down the recipe and try it out. I have a great one for banana bread, that uses whole wheat flour and molasses , so if anyone wants to try that out give me a shout.

I am looking for a good book that relates to vegetarian pregnancy. I am totally off meat and fish and eggs so am looking for some suggestions to make sure that I am geeting the correct amount of the good stuff. My Mum is a vegan, so I have lots of ideas, but would love a book to read, kwim?

I am going for my 2nd appointment with my m/w on August 2nd.
She wants to know whether we will be interested in the tests.
With dd, we tested, and my result was very high. It caused us lots of anxiety and worry. First of all we said, an amnio definately, then thought what are we thinking?? We went for the level 2 ultrasound and it showed nothing wrong at all.
She is now 19 months old, and a very active bright little girl, so we need to sit down and look at the tests that they are offering again and decide . I think we will not go with any of them, but second time around your opinions change.

Hope you all have a good week, sending loving baby vibes to all xxxx Jasmine

[wtchyhlr]

You're welcome Christi - it was me. I ADORE that recipe, it was my grandmothers....

[Periwinkle]

Add me to the tipped uterus club. :wave

I think I know more women with tipped uteruses (uteri??!) than not! I was "warned" that due to my tipped uterus we might not hear heartbeat, but we did, loud and clear.

OK this is OT but I don't have crazy have-to-pee-every-2-seconds urge like you read about (more, definitely, but not ALL THE TIME) and I always thought it was because my uterus tipped backwards away from my bladder relieving some of the pressure. :D Anyone else with a tipped uterus blessed with only slightly above average pee urge, or am I crazy?!!

[letabug]

Tug- my ds did naps today on the mattress...well he was cuddled up on the floor everytime I went in there. He started the night (his first) on his big boy mattress he kept waking up but he would go back to sleep I think he was scared is what is sounded like. He has always slept in a dark room at night and in the mornin the sun shines in so it helps his inner clock. I think the dark and the fact there were no bars made him feel unsecure. He slept about 4 hours in the big boy bed but I couldn't stand for him to be scared so I went in to check on him and he was just sitting on the mattress holding blanky ever so tightly. We don't have toys in his bed room so there is really no motivation for him to be up crawling around all night long. he is napping in it right now. Yesterday when he woke up he would go to the door and like knock on it. So far so good!!!

Also no sickness this morning, but all I can think about is the thick cut dill pickel chips and a hershey bar. Both things NOT on my stupid diet from the hospital. So I guess we'll see.

[tug]

ooh, letabug, that sounds so sad, him sitting on the mattress with his blanky. james does that too and it just breaks my heart. i don't want him to be scared, but he hates the crib and is uncomfortable in bed with us now, so the bed seems like the best option and he can see us from it ... since your ds has started napping in his bed, maybe he will gradually get more comfortable with it at night. james has stayed in his big bed a few times but mostly after waking up early in the morning and then being put there to sleep a few more hours.

m/s not bad today, but wish i had the suddenly better feeling that you described, christi!

[milk_maker]

I don't know what's wrong with me, but I just can't eat. I tried last night but everything just made me want to hurl when I looked at it. I made oatmeal this morning and it's still sitting on my desk looking all gelatinous and repulsive. DH is starting to get mad at me because my great appetite is now non-existant and I just don't want to cook or eat. I blame it on nausea, but I kind of think it's the hard time I'm having dealing with weight gain. I worry that I'm too thin, but at the same time I look in the mirror and dwell upon how fat I'm getting. I don't know if it's my food block kicking in or if it's really nausea. I don't know what to do. :guilty

[ekblad9]

I only have to pee alot b/c of the UTI. Other than that it's about the same.

I have a major fear of weight gain but I'm already fat right now so it's not too bad. The first few times I started out near 100 lbs and was afraid to gain so I didn't eat for months. Still I gained 80 lbs each time :eek I lost it every other time except after number 5. Hang in there and don't worry about weight gain! And you probably are nauseas so you don't feel like eating.

Anyone see those champagne grapes? They're teeny, tiny grapes. Anyway, I love them and the kids love them. I got to containers of them at the store today. MMM

Alright, back to my sad attempt at housework.....

[ChloesMummy]

Hi everyone! I am still new to posting and threads-but wanted to say hi to all the Feb moms! I am not feeling as queasy, but I have tons of back pain and crmping on and off. My midwife says it is due to an extremely tilted uterus-but I did not have that with my daughter (she is 3 yrs.) I don't know if it happened after my gastric bypass-or it just happens. Does anyone know. I really like my midwife, but since she has gotten busy around our town, she seems more distracted and didn't seem to tolerate me wanting to come in and see a H/B on sono-I am leaving out of state tomorrow and I wanted to make sure the baby had a h/b and I wasn't going to start m/c while gone (if so-I would have cancelled my trip and did it at home) She finally squeezed me in and I saw a h/b-so I was releived! We don't have a lot of options that I know about around here for more natual (home birth, water births, birthing centers) ways to birth and we have 2 midwives and she is more natural. Anyways sorry to vent. I am glad some of you are starting to feel better! Good luck to all!

[lasofia]

My uterus is tipped as well. So are almost all of my girlfriend's. Maybe we're all normal and the medical books are wrong. :LOL
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Mine is tipped. My midwife told me about half the women she sees have a tipped one. It's not abnormal, in other words. But it does rotate to the non-tipped position during pregnancy. Mine does it really quickly (I can feel muscle cramps as it swings forward) but that's nice, because I heard the heartbeat pretty early, 10 weeks LMP.

[ekblad9]

I just wanted to post something good since I usually only complain. :LOL I've felt so good today. I did make it to the grocery store, made lunch for the kids, cleaned, did tons of laundry, even put the pool out for the little ones to play in. Maybe things are starting to look up. I fully expect to feel crappy tonight as that's what usually happens for me. I start my m/s at night around week five and it ends at night around week 14.

I hope everyone is doing OK. I don't know what I would've done without your support these past weeks. I think dh just doesn't get it. He seemed concerned last night as I was throwing up and crying but still doesn't lift a finger around the house or call to check on me. Ah well, I guess you have to live it to understand it.

Thanks again. :hug

[wtchyhlr]

Ekblad, so glad you're having a good day....

So the cat is now out of the bag at work... we were just on a conference call, and on of my really good friends, in standing up for me, made the statement "oh there you did it, you pushed the pregnant lady over the edge" which was met with immediate instant messages from the few people who didn't already know. too funny. i had been trying to come up with a good way to tell them, and CD did it for me, which is good.

[AmBam]

Hi! Just thought I would say hi! I am feeling pretty good. I am just so dang tired. I am watching a little girl during the days now so I am not able to nap very often. I miss it. She is sooooo cute though. She is almost 3 months old. She is adorable! Makes me want a little girl. Hope everyone is well. Hope all those with m/s start feeling better very soon!!

[shannon0218]

Having a lousy day today, and yesterday. I'm getting so sick of this I just can't cope anymore, it's gotta end soon. I can no longer eat (or even look at) any type of protein at all, how's the baby supposed to thrive on boiled potatoes???

[heveasoul]

Oh Shannon...:hug :hug :hug Your baby will be ok. Maybe try russet potatoes - they're apparently higher in antioxidants. Can you sip some broth? Are you still ok with milk? How about some wheat germ instead of cereal? It's loaded with good stuff.

ekblad - glad you're feeling a bit more energetic.

I'm doing well, although I didn't like seeing pink on the tp just now...I'll keep an eye on it. Hopefully won't progress to anything. Only bright red should have me concerned, right, or if it's accompanied by cramping? It wasn't brown like last time, definitely not red. Pink is new...because I haven't yet met my m/w (1st appt is on Aug 5), I don't yet have her pager number...does it warrant a call to the main m/w pager? trying to remain calm... :eyesroll

[KateSt.]

Oh Hevea -- :hug I'm sure everything is okay, but being a dedicated tp checker I know I'd hate to see any color at all. Try not to worry. And if you think you'd feel comforted, I'd say definitely use that pager. I'm thinking of you.

Shannon -- :hug some more hugs and here's some get well soon dust :dust :dust :dust

Ekblad -- glad things are looking up for you today.

[ella-makes-3]

Hi, just checking in for the evening.

Hevea, hope everything is ok. I would definately call the m/w, but I am crazy like that!! That's what they are ther for, she will put your mind at ease.

Ekblad, glad to see that you are having a good day. Not long until the 14 week mark.

Shannon, i would try some different grains too. Some are higher in protein than others and better nutritionally. I am hoping to get my hands on a good pregnancy vegetarian book to educate myself on the really good stuff to eat. I did make some granola with flax, wheat germ, dried fruit mollasses and nuts to munch on in the morning.

I have had one of those days with dd, kind of like purgatory I guess! Thankfully dh is giving her a bath and putting her to bed. I need a little down time on the puter.
Ok, just made some eggplant parm, so off to eat that! Yumm

[heveasoul]

Hey there. Thanks for the thoughts...I'm just going to sit tight, chill...there's been nothing since that one time a couple of hours ago. I'm sure the m/w would just tell me to keep an eye out anyway, and I'm not at all interested in getting myself to an er, so I will only call if there's bright red and/or cramping.

[ekblad9]

Hang in there sweetie! :hug

I had a really productive day. Got tons done. I'm heading to bed now, though. I 'm beat and my back is killing me. Going to the m/w tomorrow! :D

[Lousli]

Hi all,
I have been swamped with going back to work, but wanted to pop in and say hi.

Things are going well. Went back for my nuchal test and everything looked normal. baby meansured right on (about 12 w or 12w 2d depending). They tried to see the gender but couldn't tell.

Shannon, I'm so sorry you're feeling crummy. Could you handle maybe some miso with tofu in it? Ice cream? I have a friend who had HG with all 3 of her pregnancies, but she ended up fine, her babies were all healthy, and she was able to eat and gain during her 2nd and 3rd trimester.

Joy, Isn't it a relief to have everyone know? I love your website, btw.

ella-MMMM, eggplant!

heve, I am so thinking of you and hoping that things are okay. If it were me, I might call. But my doc was very cool and he told me if I had spotting or anything that worried me to call right away and he'd squeeze me in and do an u/s or listen on doppler to check.

Chole'smommy, glad it is all okay so you can enjoy your vacation

ekblad-Yay for feeling better!

okay, there's many more, but my poor daughter is freaking out because she scared the cat and he ran away from her, gotta go

[kater07]

I hope that everyone has a good day tomorrow.

I am feeling really really crappy emotionally today. Physically I am super tired again.

Sigh... time for nettles and a nap (nice long sleep).

Sorry that I didn't post back to you all. I will be better tomorrow.

Much love!

[lasofia]

I'm one of those lucky women for whom the pregnancy glow is mostly the illumination of deep red cystic acne. I keep managing to briefly forget my ravaged face, but ds (21 months) always reminds me.

Like the other day, when he suddenly noticed my face as we were lying next to each other, and said, "oh, mama! LOTS of booboos! and tried to touch each painful bump on my jawline.

Or tonight, when he saw me in dim light and kept saying, "mama's face dirty. Wipe it off! Clean it off! food on face, dirty!" and tried to wipe off all the zits.

This is the same child who stands outside the bathroom door and yells, "NO mama, DON'T sick!"

What do I have to look forward to? "Oh, mama, getting fat! Face big as balloon!" Or "mama walk funny, look like duck!"

*sigh* At least when I sneeze he doesn't ask, "mama need change undies?"

[shannon0218]

Hevea, have you been "discharged" from Val yet?? maybe she could see you or order an U/S to put your mind at ease. I know she's in the office tomorrow, I have an appt at 3:00. Hopefully will hear the heartbeat for the first time. Oh and tomorrow I will be 12 weeks!!!!! Now if the f-ing puking would just magically stop, I may be able to enjoy it.
Thanks for the suggestions everyone, the problem is that what works today doesn't always (ok, seldom) work tomorrow. Broth I can't stomach at all. I was keeping down that disgusting Lipton Chicken Noodle soup, but that love affair ended today. Cheerios sometimes stay down as long as I have very little milk. Trail mix was suggested at the hospital but I can't even stand the thought of it. I just want this all to be over. My house looks like a bomb has hit it, Steve is slightly less than useless, I know he's trying, and he is attempting to run my business since I can't but I can't stand living in this pig sty anymore.
Oh well, what can I do right??

[shannon0218]

On a sad note ladies, there is a post from Jiminy on our main Feb board, she miscarried last week. I'm sure she'd appreciate everyones thoughts.

[jorie]

Its been so long since I was on! I admit to skimming:). I had been doing my onlining during ds nap, but I've been soooo tired I just crash and don't wake up until he does. Yesterday I woke up to him saying "Mommy get up!":LOL I apparently have told him that I nap when he does--its amazing what 2yr olds pickup! Anyway, GOOD NEWS! I get to see a family dr!! I've been seeing a chiropractor and she arranged for me to get in with an all women fam dr practice whose receptionist told me they weren't accepting patients. I love having connections!:) So I have my first appt tomorrow. DH is coming with me. :love He has been arranging his work schedule all week so he can come. And I am so glad to be going--I think I have a yeast infection. Forget wanting to avoid a pelvic exam--please give me some relief! The dr. even already knows I am "high risk" and that is no problem--her nurse said they keep their patients, even if there is a problem or special case, and just call in a consultation if necessary. YAY!

I've also had a couple baby dreams--the baby is a boy in every one, even though given my chart and symtoms, I am still putting my money on a girl--I wonder if the baby has been a boy in every dream because that is what I was originally trying for--Shettles and all that--but I miss calculated . . . ok. . . just got impatient to get preggers:LOL So the funniest one was that I had a boy and then was using my uterus as storage for the baby, like I was a kangaroo or something!:LOL In the dream, whenever I got tired of holding the baby or needed my hands for something, instead of putting him down, I just stuck him back in. But this was not painful or anything. People in my dream kept saying how weird it was and asking about it, but my dream self couldn't understand what their problem was!:) So now that I've written a book to announce my return, :hug to everyone still feeling bad and :thumb to everyone starting to feel better!

[Mama2Chloe]

I just wanted to say hello to everyone! My edd is 25 Feb. I'm expecting our second little one. My DD is 18 months and I'm just so thankful that she takes a good nap everyday. I'm so exhausted, I just don't think I could make it without one.

Today, she just wanted to constantly nurse. I want to night wean in about a month. (We are moving to a bigger house and I don't want to stress her out with too many changes, so I'll wait until then) I'm already getting up for the bathroom 3 times or more a night. It wasn't like this with #1PG.

Also, I am getting such a tummy so fast! I've heard that it is like that after you go through a pregnancy. I'm not in maternity yet, but my jeans are getting snug.

I go to my first OB appointment next Thursday. I can't wait! :love We will get our first look at this little one. I'll be 11 weeks.

Take care all you Feb 05 mommies! I will try to post more often. :innocent

[tug]

mama2chloe - my ds is also 18 months. it's very fun to be planning for the next one when the first is at such an adorable age. last night while james was playing in his bath he suddenly turned and looked at me and said "mama!" it was just so adorable. he is just such an angel that it makes me all warm and fuzzy to think of having another.

makes up for the m/s.

[ekblad9]

Good morning everyone! I'm still feeling good today. Yippee. Every day seems like such a gift, KWIM? I'm managing to clean our room and trying to make up for the mess that's been there for weeks. I know, I'm obsessed with cleaning. I have OCD bad! And not being able to function is the WORST!

Can't wait to go to the m/w today.

I'm happy to be able to enjoy my kids again. Too bad we're poor. They deserve a big vacation somewhere! :) I just want them to know how much I appreciate them.

OK, hang in there everyone. You should feel better soon!

[AmBam]

Good morning ladies!!
Shannon ~ Oh hun, I feel so bad for you! I can't imagine being that sick. I am so sorry! I hope you get some relief soon! I wish I knew of something that would help. I have a SIL who also gets sick like that! Know that I am thinking of you!

Heve ~ My prayers are with you. I hope all works out and everything is okay!

I am actually feeling really well this morning. I have been feeling yucky more at night lately. I have to start eating more healthy. I know I am not getting enough protien. Yesterday for lunch all that sounded appealing was popcorn so that is what I ate. Then for dinner all that sounded half way good was rice so I ate steamed brown rice for dinner. It seems that I am not eating near as much as I did with my last pg which probably isn't a bad thing since I am still carrying all my wieght from my last pg. Anyway, there is my novel!

Oh~~ one more thing! We are going down this evening too see my m/w to hear a heartbeat. I am soooo excited! That is my favorite part!

Congrats to all of you feeling better and to the rest of you feeling yucky... good luck!! I hope the end is in sight!!

[heveasoul]

Hi all!

Spoke with one of the other mws at the practice, and she confirmed what I thought - not to worry unless it flows, is bright red and/or accompanied by cramping. I've had nothing since the pink on the tp early yesterday evening. Only the one time - nothing since.

So I'm ok - it is of course disconcerting to see colour, but I am calm.

Shannon - I had a thought - are you taking the prenatals? They seem to make a lot of people nauseated. If you can get off them for a bit, maybe you can eat more.

~~~Happy nausea-free vibes to everyone!!~~~

[ekblad9]

OK, I have a confession and a question. I am eating ALL of the time. It's all I think about. And not good stuff either. I crave total crap. Ramon Noodles, corn dogs, tacos, Coke, salt and vinegar chips, etc. The only crap I don't crave is sweets. I have a major aversion to sweets right now. I feel like I can't eat enough. Anyone else feel that way? I tried to eat salad and some healthy stuff and threw it back up.

[Mama2Chloe]

Tug~ Just wanted to say that your little boy is so cute! 18 months is a great age. Chloe has been totally into playing with her baby dolls. Yesterday, she had one all day with her...in the bath, putting lotion on it, changing her diaper, feeding it, and giving it "Naano". She's such a good little mommy.

I'm hoping today I will have more energy. I've been so tired and unmotivated lately. We haven't been going on as many walks or going to the park. I really need to for Chloe's sake. She needs to get outside everyday and enjoys walks.

Take care! Have a wonderful day! :love

[heveasoul]

ekblad - sounds like you're craving salty and sour - can you manage to get/make better versions of these tastes? For example, homemade tacos (I have a recipe if you'd like), some ACV in water for sipping, foods sautéd in olive oil, coconut oil, or (free-range, nitrate-free) bacon fat, naturally-fermented pickles/sauerkraut, olive-oil potato chips? mmmmm - had those on the weekend with sour cream dip (just plain sour cream with a bit of finely sliced onion and sea salt and pepper)...:yum cheese and pickles? mmmmm..with a tin of wild salmon mushed with acv, olive oil and sea salt and pepper on butttered toast? ok, as you can see, my appetite has NOT gone away...:LOL

[lasofia]

I crave total crap. Ramon Noodles, corn dogs, tacos, Coke, salt and vinegar chips, etc. I

I've sliced up some cucumbers, covered them in vinegar, salted them, and put them in the fridge overnight.

They are SO good right now, but I'm trying not to eat too many at once. That couldn't be good.

[ekblad9]

MMM, all that stuff sounds great. Yes, I will try them out. I did make the tacos myself, at least. :LOL What's HCV?

[HydeParkB]

ekblad, glad you are feeling better.

I too am ravenous most of the time. And highly suggestible. All those items that heveasoul suggested make my mouth water. Someone can say "burgers" and I get hungry, or "Veggie Wrap" and I get just as hungry.

My real craving is California Rolls, since I've given up raw sushi. The wasabi/soy/ginger helps.

What about fresh tomatoes with salt & pepper - is that completely unappealing?

[heveasoul]

MMM, all that stuff sounds great. Yes, I will try them out. I did make the tacos myself, at least. :LOL What's HCV?

ACV = apple cider vinegar - Omega makes a good one - there's some info on the nutritional benefits of ACV on the Omega site (http://www.omeganutrition.com/faqs-nutrition-apple.php) .

tacos are one of those things that are SO easy to make without having to use the little taco packets (they contain MSG and other stuff)...mmmm...tacos...maybe this weekend....:yum

mmmm - the pickled cucumbers sounds good...someone mentioned that they do that with thinly-sliced carrots...

[shannon0218]

Just got back from the doctors!! We heard the heartbeat, I think she had a bigger smile than I did though :) I was too nervous.
I'm feeling marginally better today, haven't eaten anything mind you, but also haven't puked and have been drinking lots. I even managed to do some groceries. My blood work showed that I'm anemic, which makes sense being as I can't eat much of anything. Apparently cream of wheat is very high in iron, so maybe we'll try that (although I don't like it) Heve, I haven't taken any pre-natal vits in a few weeks, I'm on a multi vit through my IV and just have to supplement that with folic acid. She doesn't want me to take an iron supplement just yet as she worries that will make me really sick, just wants me to try and get some food in while I'm feeling human.
Anyway, I have to give myself a dose of fluids and gravol now and finish bringing in the groceries.
Will check back later.

[wtchyhlr]

Shannon- what awesome news on the hb
Ekblad - i still can't get enough peanut butter. And now i'm on a devilled egg kick.
Heve - good news from the midwives....

I have SO much CM that I'm going to have to start wearing a pantiliner soon.... sorry if thats tMI, but good grief, i feel like i'm leaking.

[Periwinkle]

Shannon hurray! :heartbeat

BTW, not sure if you read my post 2 days ago in this thread (it was kinda long :o ) but I was looking for advice re: getting off progesterone. My OB said I can stop and that I probably never needed it (groan) but do I just go cold turkey? I was taking 1 200mg prometrium supp. 2x/day. Do I just stop or will your body bounce back? I'm kinda freaked like what if I DID need them and my source of progesterone just goes away. I'm 11w3d if that helps.

Thanks in advance. :)

[shannon0218]

Hi Periwinkle, I was told to stay on them until 12 weeks that way you don't have to worry about weaning. I have now stopped them cold turkey. The placenta STARTS to take over at 10 weeks, which means you can start weaning at 10 weeks, or just wait until 12 to be safe.
Sorry I saw that post but never responded to it.

[letabug]

Hey feeling crappy today but it is only fitting since I am now almost 13 weeks :angry I am all about dill pickels I never liked them much until last week I have eaten a jar and a half already but I know they are full of chemicals so I did the cucumbers sliced up with vinegar onions and sugar they should be ready by tonight or tomorrow, they are better if you let them set a day or two.

I would like the recipe for tacos I don't like using flavor pouches but dh won't eat my version, I barely eat my version!!!!!

[Boobs]

Hey, mamas! I'm back from my trip to Texas. It was great. Exhausting, but great! I think I have over done it. I'm not feeling so strong now that I'm home. My pelvic floor hurts when I walk very much. What's that about?

The bridesmaid dress for next week FITS!! :yikes: Only by the grace of god, I tell ya! I have grown. I don't know how, but it fits and I can breathe in it. I've never been so relieved in my life!

No question about whether or not I'm showing now. My fundus is really high for some reason.

I was really hoping I would come back here and find that you were all over m/s! :irked: Poor, Shannon! Bless your heart. Get better, would ya!?

[TwinMom]

Okay, I haven't been very active on this thread, but I'm going to start since we're all going to be hanging out together for a long time! My m/s is still pretty bad. I never thought I would actually look forward to being able to cook, but I am. I think it's going to be several more weeks, though. I have to hold my breath when I open the refrigerator or freezer, so even heating up frozen food is an exercise in trying not to gag.

I'm not gaining any weight yet, though I'll be 13 weeks tomorrow. Last time I checked I had LOST 12.5 pounds, though I might have gone up a little bit in the last week 'cause I've been on vacation, eating junk food. Although then I would usually go throw it up. :irked:

My first appointment with the midwife is tomorrow. My dh is still off work for vacation, so he'll be here when she comes; hopefully we'll be able to hear the heartbeat.

Does February seem sooooo far away to everyone else? Really, this doesn't feel real most days. Maybe that's because I don't really want to be pregnant in the first place. :angry

[ekblad9]

Argh, my internet has been out half the day. I got to hear the heartbeat! Just for a fleeting minute but I got to hear it. It made me happy! :D Now I have awful diareha and nausea again. :( Not so happy.

Hope everyone else is doing OK. :hug

[Periwinkle]

Thanks Shannon! Whew...


I am all about dill pickels I never liked them much until last week I have eaten a jar and a half already but I know they are full of chemicals so I did the cucumbers sliced up with vinegar onions and sugar they should be ready by tonight or tomorrow, they are better if you let them set a day or two.

What?! OH NO! I've eated about 2 jars of pickles myself. All I want (oh, in addition to Wonder bread and processed mac n' cheese mind you) is pickles, saurkraut, kefir, you name it -- the more tart the better. What's wrong with dill pickles??? :crying

[weesej]

I finished a jar of pickles today and am drinking the juice LOL!!! Totally grosses DH out, tates SOOO good.'


I had a good day today. Cleaned the house and cooked dinner. I am just sick in the early AM and at night now. I really think I must be farther along than I am. I usually an sick from 7-12 weeks and this time it started a little before 6 and is finishing up at 11. So I think I am 1 to 1.5 weeks off. Guess well see.

[ekblad9]

I also LOVE pickles.

My m/w suggested a high protein diet. Anyone know of any good ones?

[Lousli]

I finished a jar of pickles today and am drinking the juice LOL!!! Totally grosses DH out, tates SOOO good.'

OMG!! I'm not the only one! yesterday I ate capers right out of the jar, and then polished them off with some cornichons (really sour tiny pickles). Tonight I ate fish and chips with malt vinegar and tartar sauce. Ekblad, I know what you mean about sweet aversion. I have hardly wanted sweets at all, and I usually can't get enough of them! I want sour/salty foods too.

I'm having sort of a sad day. I mean, my day was okay, but I feel sort of weird right now about MDC. I think I'm not crunchy enough to be here. I read all these threads about cloth diapering, and homebirthing, and I'm so much more mainstream than that. I guess I'm here because I'm a big believer in AP, and we are very commited to that. It's the "natural" part that I don't live up to.

You know, my dad is a doctor, and my mom a CNM, and they've always told me who the best docs in town are. I've been so lucky to get excellent medical care my entire life. As a result, I respect doctors much of the time, and feel pretty comfortable with traditional medicine. A homebirth is not something I'd be comfortable with at all.

Sometimes I feel like I don't fit in anywhere. I'm certainly not a "babycenter" mom. Good grief, when I was pregnant with my first I posted on a forum that i found through them and I was ripped apart. I was so angry and hurt that the sting of it still hasn't gone completely. But I don't always feel like I should give advice here, or like I fit in very well here either.

Okay, enough whining, I just needed to get that off my chest.

[ekblad9]

Hang in there sweetie! You DO fit in here. I know there are some really great doctors out there. My family doc is so wonderful! I couldn't do this homebirth without his support. I would NEVER have imagined I would have a homebirth. My last hospital birth was such a travesty. Could have easily been a tragedy. I'm actually afraid to go back to a hospital, ever. I have a hard time visiting friends there. It's not the whole medical community that I'm against. Just the ones that treated me like garbage.

As far as nursing. I nursed my first three kids until around one year. I thought that was a long, long time. I would have never guessed that I would have nursed a child that is almost four years old at the same time I'm nursing my almost two year old and be pregnant. I think it just happens. KWIM?

Growing up I thought people that homeschooled were complete freaks, :LOL Now I'm one of the freaks.

Even if I wasn't most of those things (oh and I so LOVE :love cloth diapers) I would still love it here. There's mostly a gentleness to the women here. One that's rare and hard to find anywhere online or in the outside world.

:hug You'll always fit as far as I'm concerned.

[Lousli]

Ekblad, thank you for your kind words. I just wanted to let you know, nursing is one of the ways I do fit in here! I was nursed until the age of three, and my 2 years 9 month old daughter is looking like she'll do the same!

Yeah, homeschooling. I don't think it is freaky, but I personally would lose my mind. But of course, I can teach 24 of someone else's kids no problem, just not 1 of my own! LOL.

And I have to agree about the women here. I love this community. People are so wonderful and so warm. I just sometimes feel...strange about being here. Like I'm "lying" because I eat meat, vax my kids, disposable diaper (I should probably not continue). Do you know what I mean?

On the other hand, since coming here, I've really learned a lot, and opened my mind. For example, if I have a boy, I'm almost 100% certain that I won't circ him (and my family is Jewish!) And I've bought slings and use them with my dd.

Thanks again. ((((HUG))))

[jorie]

Lesley--don't feel bad or worry that you don't fit in. We all have our quirks or things we do that are more natural than others. For example, I just finished a second round of antibiotics, first for pneumonia and then for a sinus infection. I know there is much said here about the evils of drugs during preg, but I felt _awful_ and a neti pot just wasn't going to cut it! And, gasp! I use a crib for my ds. There is no way I will ever have a homebirth either, but I nurse my son and will nurse this baby, I use a sling, I buy organic when we can afford it, I try to elimanate as many artificial things in our food as I can, but I love pickles and mayo and El Paso taco seasoning mix. My dh claims I only cd to be different:) And it will probably be baby four (if we have that many!) before dh is comfortable full time co-sleeping or me tandem nursing. Every experience is valid! Give advice if you have found something that works. As they said at every League meeting "Listen respectfully, take what you can use, file the rest away for later and do what works for your family" The fact that several here have gone through infertility treatment (how more traditional medicene can you get?) should encourage you that we are not all so very crunchy!

And I am so on board with the sour/salty thing! I can not eat enough coleslaw, which I make with only ACV and mayo (chop the cabbage and carrots, add enough ACV to coat and then mayo to taste :yum )

[ekblad9]

:thumb on the nursing! That was very new to me until finding Mothering Magazine many years ago.

I vaxed my first few kids and circed my first two boys. I just didn't know you could do different. So my third son isn't circed and that makes me happy!

I also enjoy meat on occasion and I think alot of moms here do! :D

[HydeParkB]

Lesley, I feel like I can relate. I'm going for the hospital birth, I'm looking at pain relief options for the delivery, we haven't made a decision on circumcision, and carnivore (especially now!).

It's funny, I'm now seeing that what I considered normal when my mom raised us in the 70s, was really not the norm, then or now. For example, we were all breastfed well past one year. We didn't cosleep in the bed, but were in a bassinet in my parents room for quite a while. Cloth diapers were the norm. I'm hoping to do most of what she did, and add in a higher portion of organic foods and see how AP may work for us.

I can't speak for the other women here, but this place seems like a good place for support, for ideas, for expression. So, stick around! I can't say I've met a person here that I wouldn't want to have around. :)

[lasofia]

I think I'm not crunchy enough to be here. I read all these threads about cloth diapering, and homebirthing, and I'm so much more mainstream than that.

A homebirth is not something I'd be comfortable with at all.



Oh no no no no!
From one newbie to another, you are so very welcome here! I'm sure we fall all along the "crunchy" spectrum. And as ekblad says, some of the stuff we end up doing we couldn't have imagined doing a couple years ago, so maybe some things you read about here will affect you later... in 10 years you could be the uber crunchy mama everyone comes to for advice, eh? Or maybe you'll be the moderating voice, saying that sometimes antibiotics are a life saver. But the point is respect. Most mamas here at least brush against the AP philosophy, which at its heart is about respect and gentleness. So we should be respectful and gentle with each other, right? And learn from each other.

As for homebirth - I've had a lot of mamas tell me they could never have been comfortable with a home birth. Some said it wistfully, some defensively,some self-rightously,some enviously, some with awe.

I tell the all - the point is, do it where you feel safe, where you feel comfortable. You'll labor better if you feel like you're in the best place for you.

Obviously women should research their options, think about what they want/don't want, etc, but I think you can have a beautiful birth whereever you do it - just need to do what you need to do. I don't think there's one answer for everyone.

Ok, rambling. Goodnight! don't go away!

[heveasoul]

Lesley - I wouldn't feel like an outsider. Like the group of women on the ttc boards, I think we're a pretty diverse group, and while some people on some sites or articles may argue differently, I believe how one defines "crunchy" can vary. Natural living means different things to different people. And you do what works for you, and your family. We all have to make choices, and sometimes make compromises. I'm sure everyone on here is a bundle of what you might call contradictions - it's pretty hard not to be! my 2 cents... :eyesroll

[heveasoul]

Shannon - yahoooooo on hearing the heartbeat! And congrats on reaching the 12-week mark!! I'm so happy for you! I hope you can start feeling normal soon and enjoy eating and being preggers!! :love

[heveasoul]

We all have to make choices, and sometimes make compromises. I'm sure everyone on here is a bundle of what you might call contradictions - it's pretty hard not to be! my 2 cents... :eyesroll

ha! ...quoting myself - is that loopy? :LOL Had to add: And what some people consider compromises are not that, but simply someone else's choice! ok...off my soapbox, and into bed...waaaay past my bedtime... :zzz

[ekblad9]

I just want to add that I was always in awe of homebirth but didn't think I would ever do it until I actually saw one. My good friend had one last summer and I was really nervous about the whole experience. But I went and it was amazing. It changed the way I felt entirely. Anywho.....

Don't know how I missed your post Shannon but yippee on the heartbeat! Isn't that fun? I love hearing it. It never gets old. My SIL and brother rented a dopler when she was pg. I swear I would listen non stop :LOL

Anyway, have a good day everyone. I'm still feeling pretty good. Not good in the evenings at all, though. :(

[Lousli]

Congrats on the heartbeat Shannon!

Glad you're feeling better some of the time at least Ekblad.

Everyone, thank you for your gentle words and understanding. I have read a lot of threads other places here that can be disparaging of people who don't follow all the natural parts of natural family living. It gets me down sometimes. I guess the best thing to do is just hang out around the pregnancy and ttc boards, where the nice people are!

Are any of you in the in-between clothing stage? I'm going nuts. Nothing fits. Maternity is too big (until after dinner, but that's another story) and regular clothes are too tight. I can zip some of my pants in the morning, but if I eat or drink anything they get too tight. I don't want to go out and spend a bunch of money, because I'm already nearly 13 weeks and I don't think this will last long. But I feel dumb wearing maternity when I'm scarcely showing. What are you wearing? BTW, I have to dress fairly nicely for work, jeans only on casual Fridays, no shorts, etc.

Hope everyone is doing well!

[wtchyhlr]

Lesley, I know I'm late in replying, but darnit, I'm going to reply anyway. I sometimes feel the same way you do, There's some things that are just WAY too crunchy for me - i'm an Omnivore, and while I do *try* to get organic, I have my non organic favorites. i work full time in corporate America, and while I hope to quit when the baby comes, I may not be able to.

Anyway, I want to echo the piece about AP being about respect and gentleness. On my Fertility Friend (MAINSTREAM) board of women who have been TTC together for now over a year, I'm by far the most radical. All of them have *gasp* separate rooms for their children, disposable diapers are the norm, most aren't breastfeeding *at all* and are using daycare... and it goes on. So while i don't feel quite as crunchy as the ladies here, I fit MUCH better here than I do there.

I'm almost to the between stage. My formerly very baggy jeans are now only baggy on the second wearing day. I however, can wear jeans all the time, so i haven't really worried about nicer stuff. i have some elastic waist long skirts that would work...

Joy

[tug]

i know what you mean about the clothes. each week there are fewer things that i can still squeeze into and by the end of the day, i've got to go for the elastic waist shorts. on weekends i am wearing maternity clothes. yeah, it looks a bit silly but so what? i'm not spending money on interim clothes. plus, i don't think people really look at someone in maternity clothes and think, "hey, she's not pregnant enough for that." i think most folks just think, "hey, maybe she's pregnant." the other nice thing about starting in on maternity clothes that are obviously maternity is that then it's obvious that you're pregnant and not just gaining weight. (i know that doesn't bother everybody, but it does me a bit).

and, to respond to lesley, even though everybody has, i also feel like people on these boards are just crunchy in different ways. most bf, most cloth diaper, but not too many are vegetarians/vegans, and political views seem pretty widely spread. i am not as crunchy as some people in some ways (i didn't extended bf, ds was not interested after 14 months so i let him choose to stop), but am crunchier in other ways (vegetarian/organic). i'm sure the same is true of you. and i know that in some places, some posters can be a little harsh about people who aren't crunchy in the particular way described in that particular post, but a little bit of that, i think, is that people feel very much compelled to justify their way of living by criticizing other people. it's not very nice, but i think it's human nature. mostly, though, i think the mothers here will call eachother on judging and most respect other's choices.

i do know that i really respect the opinions and advice that i see on this site. sometimes i think people are snipey, but often they are just very engaged with the topic and with eachother.

have a good day everybody!

[Christi]

Lesley I know what you mean about not being crunchy enough and I agree with everything everyone else is saying. It is so nice to have a group of preg mamas to talk with espesially at the same stages. So if you only want to post here then please do. I much more crunchy then my best friend but we are still best friends. Though I'm rubbing off on her some. She does Breastfeed and each child is getting it a little longer. Her first 2 months, second 12 months and her third was breastfed for 15 months. She just had her fourth four weeks ago. Anyway I got way off topic Please stick around. The more here the merrier.

As for the clothes. I had lost some weight before I got preg so I have a lot of big clothes that I can still wear. I probably won't switch to maternity till fall (I hope).

I'm going to the Doc on tuesday. Hoping for a heartbeat!

[shannon0218]

Lesley, I know what you mean and it's why for the most part I don't go over to especially TOA much anymore. There was a thread about what you drive where I got thoroughly bashed for the fact that I drove an SUV, apparently I was disregarding the safety of others and I really got bashed (as did a couple of others) when I said that my and my families safety was more important to me than that of others. Even when we showed evidence that there was very little difference between weight, damage done and gas consumption between my SUV and what they considered fine--volvos and mini-vans. The fact that I could justify my need to drive a truck also basically got bashed, then I got bashed for making enough money to be able to afford to put gas in my evil little truck. Essentially, I think some of these arguments are not debates but just places to grandstand a stupid opinion and differing opinions will not be entertained under any circumstances. In the end I was sorta allowed to drive my SUV but was then told it wasn't really an SUV anyway as it wasn't an Expedition--yeah, scuse me, SUV's were around in Pathfinder size long before they were Giant sized.
So all in all Lesley, I see medical doctors and am damn lucky in that I have some of the most amazing ones around, I trust them and listen to them, I shave my legs, pits and you don't want to know what else, I use deoderant, I use soap and I use shampoo. I am a habitual paper towel user, eat meat-the rarer the better, have been known to hit the McDonalds drive through on a busy day, my favorite mac and cheese comes from a blue box and I put my laundry through the dryer because I'm too damn lazy to bother hanging it outside. That said, I recycle, I never serve a meal with no veggies or fruit, I feed my dogs an all natural diet and often cook for them, I believe in breast feeding with all my heart even though I may not be able to do it, I will cloth diaper, I will co-sleep, I will sling, but most importantly, I will do whatever I need to do to ensure my baby is as happy and well adjusted as can be.
So stay around girl, I think the truley crunchy are a little rarer than is first presented in some of the threads.

As for moi, I think I over did it yesterday cause I'm feeling pretty lousy today. Yesterday however, I did the dishes, laundry, vacuumed the whole house, made dinner and burned the burnables. Woo Hoo!!

[ella-makes-3]

morning all, just checking in to say hi, and hope that everyone's day is going ok. Shannon, I think we are 12 weeks today!!! Can't quite believe it, or that I am pg, but can't wait to see the new little one:)
As for dreams, I have had none of the baby, but a very juicy one with Matthew McConaughey!! It was delicious and worth the guilt I felt afterwards towards dh!

Yesterday I sat down in my normal jeans, and I couldn't breathe properly, so I guess I will be putting the rubber band around the button and through the button hole to help them last a little longer!

Ekblad, you were asking about a high protein diet. You could check out one of Suzanne somers books, I think she has 4. The first 2 are good. The concentrate on the way of eating that she endorses. It is basically whole foods, no refined sugar, whole grains, just proteins, veggies, fruits and whole grain carbs. Lots of people thing it is low carb, but not al all. There are 2 levels. Level 1 is weight loss, and level 2 is maintenance, which I would think that you would want to go for. I lost alot of wieght ( about 25-30 lbs in 4 months ) just before I got married. I have eaten this way since 2001, apart from now, as I cannot stand to look at meat at all. You can eat until you are full, not until your five peas and palm size piece of fish is gone!!!

Ok, better go, as dd is in bed, and I have a mountain of laundry that is multiplying and threatening to take over my bedroom! Oh yes, and I need feeding too!

Oh and lesley, I agree with all the pp opinions about the severity or not of our crunchyness. IMO it is all about respect. :thumb

[Mama2Chloe]

Hi Mommies! :) Hope you are all doing well. DD (Chloe) is sick. She's had a fever all night and all day, nursed all night, and is really fussy and clingy today. I took her in to the Ped and her throat is really red. He said probably a virus or something. I hate seeing my poor baby like this....plus it wears me out. She had a febrile seisure in May, so fevers are not taken lightly in my house. It was scarey and we don't want to go through that again.

Anyway, I'm exhausted..... which is really nothing new. I hope I see an up-swing in my energy level soon! Still anxiously awaiting my first OB appt next week. Pretty much the only thing I feel excited about besides my next nap. :D

Just wanted to check in. Take care!

[Lousli]

I just realized something as I read the last post. My daughter didn't nurse at all yesterday. Not even once. How odd.

M2C, I hope your daughter starts feeling better. It is so hard when your little one is sick and you just want them to be okay.

Thanks again everyone!

Since I posted about in-between clothes, I thought I'd let you know that I went ahead and told my class today (and wore some of my smaller, not so obvious maternity). After school today when i was doing bus duty, one of my kids from last year was walking by, and then he stopped and asked, "Mrs. M, are you going to have a baby?" I asked him how he knew and he said, "My mom's had 5 kids, I can just tell." LMAO...

[jorie]

I have to completely laugh at myself--after posting last night about tacos, I made them tonight for dinner. It has apparently been too long since I last had chemical-laden spice mixes because I could hardly eat the taco meat made with the Old El Paso mix! :rotflmao So there's crunchiness coming back to bite me:).

In my rant yesterday forgot to say-- went to the fam dr. yesterday and loved her! I got to hear the heartbeat :love Which was very reassuring as I was beginning to doubt I was still pregnant since I've been feeling so good! My ds thought it was soo cool to hear the baby. I think it made it more real for him.

On the clothes, I also have some "fat" clothes I've been wearing, but I've hauled out my maternity dresses because I have no summer dresses that fit and I'm not going to go buy stuff now, esp has its just for church on Sunday. Hey, they look a little strange but, then, I AM pregnant so . . . :shrug

[mehndi mama]

Heck, you guys - if anyone feels like an outsider here, it's me! And I'm purty darn crunchy - we don't even use toilet paper at our house! Really, if you all feel like you don't fit in, try looking at everyone in our month's group from my perspective - an unassisted homebirthing mama of 4 unschooled kids who nurses her kids for years, wholeheatedly co-sleeps, uses cloth everything.......you all seem to be pretty much on the same page, and I'm the one out on the fringes! I feel like half the time, I get totally ignored because I'm being too "way out" again :irked:

I went grocery shopping tonight. Had to get saltines, which were in the same aisle as the coffee beans. Somebody was grinding coffee, and I almost lost my dinner. The smell of brewed coffee is bad enough right now, but fresh-ground coffee beans? :Puke

[shannon0218]

I can see how you'd feel that way Stell, but as far as the board goes, you are more the norm IYKWIM. This is an odd group of women, from the "lack of crunchiness" to the fact that SO many of us have suffered prior miscarriages.
Fact is, I LOVE hearing about home births and organic eating and many other things, and since being here (I originally arrived at Mothering through the birth loss board--so not a lot of emphasis on way of life over there, it's just about support) Because of hearing about these things in the same way I hear them from you (politely, gently and with excitment and commitment) I've been able to implement many of them into my daily life. I eat organic as much as possible (never used to), learned about co-sleeping here, learned about cloth diapering here, learned about the reasons not to circ here!!! When people provide information and support in the way you do Stell, you can make awesome changes in the world and in the lives of people like me, who a year ago, totally didn't "belong" here. Where I have trouble is when others are bashing a mom for what she drives, or the fact that she works out of the home, or that co-sleeping just was not for her. I think we all want to and have to do the best we can and I think that if the basis behind AP is respect and gentleness, we MUST all treat each other with that same respect and gentleness.
As far as belonging, I've never felt unwelcome in TTC or the Pregnancy boards, and I certainly hope that nobody else has felt unwelcome on those boards, but some places in this community, one can be bashed and ridiculed for just not knowing better yet. I am a big believer in "When you know better, You do better" and I don't think anyone ever learns to know better through ridicule and shame.
So Stell, please don't feel out of place here on our monthly thread, I for one love hearing about home births and have such deep respect for people who do them. I personally have medical issues and proximity to hospital issues that would make one too dangerous, combine that with the fact that I trust and really like my OB and all the OB nurses at our local hospital and I'm at peace with my choice to birth in a hospital. Because of what I've learned here, I will be very suspicious and pro-active if I were to be transferred to a different hospital. But man, I can't wait to hear the stories of your home birth, Ekblad's and Hevea's, and I will be here with support all the way. And just as I would never question your choice or show anything but support for it, I would trust you would not question mine either. With such attitudes we can all co-exist together and I can continue to learn and improve as a result of your experience and guidance.
Does that make ANY sense at all????????? Sorry it turned into a big babble, I will blame the pregnancy hormones :)
So far feeling not too bad today, so I'm really keeping my fingers crossed that the worst is over. Wouldn't that be hilarious if it stopped right at that 12 week mark??

[wtchyhlr]

Stell -
I second what Shannon said. i've learned about so many thinsg at MDC that wouldn't have occured to me to question before... like induction, circ, cloth diapers vs. disposbles. i've made my decision to have a homebirth based on the stories and the strengths of mama's like you.

And Shannon - yes, that would be just hysterical if your ickines stopped sharply at 12 weeks.

and, just to announce. Today is my official 12 weeks. WOOHOO

[mama2m&m]

[/SIZE]Does anyone remember me? I'm still around sort of. Just out of the loop for the most part so I wanted to check in and say hi :wave: i hope the m/s are fading for everyone. I fell ok sometimes but still vomitting, mostly in the evenings and food feels like a rock in my stomach. My list of ok foods is dwindling fast.

Last night I vomitted blood which was scary but hopefully wont' return. It's uncomfortable to eat today. Not sure waht happened last night but it wasn't pleasant. We have the LLL world walk for b/f today so i have some things to do for that. i so want to stay home.

as for being cruncy ... well, i'm somewhere on the fence like some of you others. i think what's nice on these boards, i.e. pg and ttc, is that we're all accepting and supportive of whatever choices we make. perhaps it's because we're more concerned with making and carrying healthy babies then who does what, or eats what, etc. we're all different, we're all moms and we need to stick together! :hug

[AmBam]

Good morning Ladies! I tried to post twice yesterday but I had this little boy sitting on my desk helping me out and as I was almost finished BOTH times his little toes just wandered to the keyboard and deleted my whole message so I finally gave up! :eyesroll :)
So anyway, I think it is wonderful the mix of ladies we have on the board. It's nice to hear different perspectives on different issues and so far I think everyone seems to have a lot of respect for everyone else. So anyway, I hope nobody feels out of place.
So, Thursday night I went to my midwife and was able to hear a heartbeat for the first time. I love that sound so much. It makes it seem so real. DH was excited to hear it too. She said it was fast(156 per minute) so it must be a girl!!?? She said in her experience most fast heartbeats belong to girls, so we'll see!! Either way, I don't care. 10 fingers 10 toes and healthy is all I am hoping and praying for.
Shannon~ It's great that you are feeling better! I hope it sticks!!

[ekblad9]

Anyone else SO glad to see July go bye bye? I'm so over July. I'm over being sick too. Well, in my head I am, my body tells a different story. Still feeling crappy in the evenings but it's such an improvement I don't even care!

How's everyone else doing?

[Mama2Chloe]

My sweet little Chloe is still sick! Poor little baby! I've been giving her Tylenol and Motrin pretty much around the clock since this all started Thursday night. Today, She was due up for some Tylenol at 1. We got home a few minutes after and she was zoneing out and lathargic. I took all her clothes off and put a cool cloth on her head. She took the meds pretty good and then fell asleep nursing. 15 min after her temp was 103.9 under her arm. It slowly went down but she was really jerky in her movements. (Flashbacks of her febrile seisure filled my mind) :scared

Anyway, getting my little one better is the only thing I can think of right now. We took a good 2 hour nap today which helped us out a lot :yawning: . Just keep us in your thoughts.

OH, I finally figured out how to use all the smiles! :duh How fun! I know.... I"m a bit slow. Take care all and I'll talk to you ladies later.

:love

[Boobs]

Hey, Mommies! Hope everybody is having a good weekend. I am feeling very pregnant. Good, but pregnant! :belly I am so anxious to feel the baby move I can't stand it! I'm thinking it might be like a visit from AF. The more you think about it, the longer it takes to get there. I'm just so excited to FEEL him/her.

Yay for all the heartbeats!! :heartbeat

[shannon0218]

Sorry Chloe isn't improving as you'd like her to, it's so stressful when they're sick and you run out of things to "fix" it.
I need a little support, dh and I have just had another fight and I think we have some big problems. I once again today caught him lying to me, it was completely stupid and there was no reason what so ever to lie. Worse, for me to believe the lie would either mean I am the dumbest idiot alive or blind as a bat. I hate feeling like somebody doesn't think I have the intelligence to figure out simple things. If you can believe, this time was about cleaning the bathroom. I asked him on Thursday night to clean the bathroom Friday (his day off) He cleaned the sink friday adn supposedly finished it today (small bathroom people, we're talking can be done properly in under 1/2 hour) Anyway, he went to nap as he had to work tonight and I took a shower, well there are 4 shelves in the shower, he only cleaned one--granted it was the really disgusting one he cleaned, but only one and it was obvious to anyone with vision that he hadn't touched the others. He also didn't clean off the counter top or dust the shelves that are above the toilet, nor did he do the floor or clean around the bottom of the toilet. So when he got up I said to him, "are you finished with the bathroom?" He answers with a pause and then "No, almost" I asked him about the shelves and he tells me he cleaned them all--this was a blatent out and out lie and most people with a brain would know that the fact that I brought it up is enough reason to believe that I know they are not clean. He did this a few days ago telling me he had had a shower and he didn't--then I was just asking as I wanted to take a bath, but wasn't going to tie it up if he hadn't showered for work yet, he said yes, he had, I went in to the bathroom, both towels were bone dry, the tub was dry, he had obviously not had a shower. Maybe these things would not bother me so much except that a year ago now, he had told me he quit smoking, he let me go on and on to people about how proud I was of him, etc etc. I found out after 6 mos of him lying to me, that he had been smoking all along. He had been doing things like keeping a toothbrush and toothpaste in his car and brushing his teeth before coming in the house, only driving with the windows open, in spite of winter weather, etc etc. Just way to much work in my opinion to live this lie. I still have trouble trusting him because of that 6 month deception although until recently it was just about smoking that I didn't trust him, in that when he had no way of explaining where all his money went and things like that, I had trouble believing he was not smoking. All along he has played very hurt that I don't believe him. Then this. I mean, how can I trust anything that comes out of his mouth?? What the hell should I do?? I don't know that I'm strong enough to have this baby alone but I don't know how to trust him. I've been in tears for hours, he hasn't said a word and just left for work. I don't think he does this to hurt me. I think it has some twisted thing to do with how he grew up and his twisted freakish mother and his even more twisted but now dead father, but where does this leave me??
Sorry all, I know this is horribly off topic, but I needed to get it out, can anyone tell me it's just pregnancy hormones and I'm over reacting????

[Boobs]

Shannon. :hug
You're not overreacting. Yes, you are hormonal. Besides being pregnant and sick, you JUST got married. Even if you've lived together for years and years, it's a change for both of you. I think you were right when you said he doesn't do it to hurt you. I think some people lie just because. They don