February mamas--week of Aug 9 - 15

[coopsmama]

I guess I'll start it since it is my birthday today! Yipee!


Kater07 February
Chiku due Feb 1 birthing center
Parker'smommy (Heather) due Feb 1
Lisashepp (Lisa) due Feb 1
Sadkitty. Due Feb 1st
Dandylion (Stephanie) due Feb 2
Truvie due Feb 2
PeacefulVegan (who also answers to Tracie) due Feb 3
Lou due Feb 3
Orange due Feb 3 Birth Center with OB
Twin Mom (Deb) Due Feb 4, VBA2C homebirth
Free Thinker (Mandy) due Feb 5
HelloKitty (Kitty) due Feb 6
Letabug (Arleta) due Feb 6
LianneM due Feb 7 homebirth
TexasSuz (Susan) due Feb 7
Happymamajenni (Jenni) due Feb 7 hospital/OBGYN
LesleyLuu (Lesley) due Feb 7 (or 9th?) hospital/OBGYN
DeirdreAlison (Deirdre) due 1st week Feb homebirth, maybe waterbirth
New Life Due Feb 8
Shannon 0218- due Feb 11 hospital birth with great OB
ella-makes-3 (Jasmine) - due ~ Feb. 11 midwife/natural birth at birth center
Tug due Feb 12
Firefly due Feb 13
Christi due Feb 14 hospital birth with fab OB
Periwinkle (Karen) due Feb 14
Fairymomma (Pamela) due Feb 14
Jorie (Margorie) due Feb 14
AmBam (Amber) due Feb 14 homebirth
Wtchyhlr (Joy) due Feb 14
rose angel (Karen) due Feb 16
mama2m&m (Denise) due Feb 16
HydeParkB due Feb 17
Karennnnn (Karen) due Feb 17
Coopsmama (Kristen) Due Feb 17
Shyly (Monica) Due Feb 17
Gretchen Due Feb 18
weesej (Jen) Due Feb 19 homebirth
mehndimama (Stell) due Feb 22 unassisted homebirth
heveasoul due Feb 21, h/b with m/w
woolfairy (Elle) due Feb 27, baby #2 homebirth
Ekblad7+ (Amy) due Feb 20 Homebirth
KateSt. Late Feb. Homebirth
Chloe'sMummy #2

[coopsmama]

Ok,

so I really wanted to post a new thread because I have a question for all of you seasoned fertilty goddesses. My closest childhood friend is pregnant after two miscarriages. She has a son who is the same age as ds. The miscarriages happened after first baby. Anyway, she has been spotting since Friday, off and on, with no cramping and finally (I have been harrassing her since friday to go) went to the Dr. She had an ultrasound which showed a yolk sac and fluid, etc. Dr. said it is too early to see anything more and speculated that she is bleeding due to a dip in progesterone levels. I asked if he gave her a prescription for supplements and she said that his response was "that is voodoo."
I told her that was total crap and that she should call back and demand a prescription. Her compromise was to go to the health food store and get wild yam and vitex, which I feel won't help much at this stage.
So, the question is, would progesterone at this point be worth trying? And is her Dr. the idiot I think he is or does he know something? I haven't had any experience with progesterone, so I have no idea. Any insight would be helpful. TIA

On a side note, I got an US yesterday and everything looks really good. We got to see fingers and toes and waving and bouncing. Baby is measuring a good week ahead, but so did ds. My friend guesses girl, and I am keeping my fingers crossed.

[shannon0218]

Hey Kristin!! Thanks for starting the new thread and HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
How far along is your friend?? As for the progesterone, I have researched this ad nauseum until my eyes bled. Basically, there is no solid proof it works--reason being, for there to be solid proof it works, a control group would have to be willing to know their progesterone level is low but not take the supplementation. Until we can find a group of a hundred women or so who are at risk for miscarriage from low progesterone but are willing to do nothing, we will not have proof.
Here are the primary facts I did find during all my research.....
1) Of the doctors that believe in progesterone supplementation they are split as to wether starting supplementation late (ie. after week 4) however, the agreement is that it can't hurt.
2) There is NO danger to the baby by supplementing and the side effects for mom are mainly increased morning sickness, headaches, and worse constipation.
3) You would have to soak in a vat of wild yam cream to absorb enough progesterone to do any good.
4) Taking the progesterone as a suppository (either rectal or vaginal) provides the best bio-availability.
5) Progestone suppositories CAN cause spotting and/or make it worse, because it enhances blood flow to the pelvic area and thickens the lining, it can also cause the cervix to become irratated--this problem was solved for me by using it rectally instead of vaginally.
6) I have found NO studies anywhere showing possible danger to mother or baby by using progesterone during the first trimester (and neither could either of my doctors)

Ultimately, whether it actually helps or not, my take was unless it will hurt me or my baby, after 3 miscarriages I was willing to try it even if the chance it would help was slim to nil. Until now I have never carried past 10 weeks. Is it the progesterone, the heparin, the baby aspirin or just fluke?? I don't know, never will know and don't really care, as long as something is working!! I will be at 14 completed weeks this Friday, so something is working. :)
I would suggest she either see another doc or ask her doctor to show her proof that progesterone supplementation is dangerous and if he can't (which he can't) I'd be telling him to humor me and supplement anyways. Keeping in mind that you won't find many people who don't agree that the earlier supplementation is begun, the better.
If she needs any more information, tell her to feel free to email me at shannon.m@sympatico.ca
Hope this helps and again HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!!!

[Orange]

Happy Birthday Kristin!!

I agree with Shannon, it couldn't hurt your friend to see another doctor. I'm curious why she is so lackadaisical (sp?) about it though? Seems I would have already gone to get a 2nd opinion at this point...

[tug]

[subscribing]

sorry - can't stay, just wanted to not lose the thread! :)

[KateSt.]

Subscribing...
Back from long weekend away. Haven't read thread yet. Will be back! Hope all you ladies are doing well. :love

[Mama2Chloe]

Let me just say that I am so exhausted! Everytime I think the sleepy fog has lifted, I have a day like yesterday. I thought I was going to die of exhaustion yesterday. I babysat for my friend's little one year old and Chloe was having a hard time sharing (wanting everything that Emma played with) I know they can't grasp this concept yet, but it was a hard day. DD would just fall apart crying. She also didn't get but a 20 minute nap and was so irritable for the rest of the afternoon and evening.

I'm tired even first thing in the morning when I wake up. Maybe it's because of the 3 -4 times of getting up to go potty.

I'm 11 weeks 2 days today and am hopeing for easier days to come with more energy to face the day. Take care! Talk to you later. :yawning:

[AmBam]

Good morning ladies! Just have a minute. I am babysitting a 3 month old and a 16 month old along with my own 17 month old. So needless to say today is going to be very long! My ds was up almost all night not feeling well so I haven't had much sleep.
Anyway, I am having crazy dreams. Last night it seemed like I dreamed all night. (When I was able to sleep that is! :eyesroll ) I dreamed that this phsyco guy was chasing me and I was running through a trailer court in and out of all the trailers hiding from him. It was sooo scary. Then I dreamed I had a baby... still born... He was a boy. I saw him so clearly. I was holding him all wrapped up in a blanket. Dh wouldn't hold him or look at him. It was awful. I pray I am never faced with that. It makes me a little paranoid ya know. I hope everything is okay with my wee one. I am sure it is. It's amazing how dreams can get to you though.

Gotta run! I have 2 screaming children!! :eek :eek :crap

[mehndi mama]

Hi, everyone! Nothing happening here.....still hungry, but feeling queasy if I don't eat enough, or if I eat too much :irked:
I tried looking up what our baby should look like at 12 weeks in "A Child is Born", but they only had photos for 2 months & 4 months. Oh well. Amber was fascinated with the little 2-month toes and fingers :D
I just got a teeny-tiny newborn diaper in the mail yesterday. It's SO CUTE! And in a really nice orange dragon print, too.

[coopsmama]

Thanks so much Shannon, that is exactly the information that I needed. I am actually not sure how far along she is, she thought she was 9 weeks, but the us showed a much smaller pregnancy. She did the same thing with her ds. I am guessing that her luteal phase is ultra short (she doesn't temp) and this is due to low progesterone.

Orange, I have no idea why she isn't being more agressive with this. She keeps calling me for information, which I am glad of. I would rather she called than not. But she has always been a rather passive person, and that is a lot for me to say, because I am an extremely passive person.

Do you have to have a prescription for progesterone suppositories?

Anyway, thanks for all the info. I hope everyone has a good week. DH went back to work this week (he teaches) and so Cooper and I are struggling to get used to it just being us again. We fought like cats and dogs yesterday. I vowed today would be better and then we got to Wal-Mart for dog food and he refused to get out of the car. Oh well.

[mama2m&m]

hello everyone. flitting in and out as usual lol.

mendhi ... have you checked about.com ? http://pregnancy.about.com/cs/ultrasounds/l/blusindex.htm
they have cool belly and u/s pictures plus lots of other info. i haven't checked it all out and they do have an annoying pop up but i love to look at the picture galleries.

ambam i have those crazy dreams too. i had one dream that i was term and went into labor at home. i was walking to tell my dh and i felt the baby crowning. the only thing was the baby was born at 3 months gestation. fully formed. it really freaked me. it was like the baby just fell out of me. but i do know that everything was fine as of yesterday so i'm chalking it up to nerves. after a loss last year not a day goes by that i don't think about what can happen. i try not to but it just happens.

mama2chloe, tha seems to be one thing i haven't experienced this pg but it can be so debilitating. i would try to take a catnap in the afternoon if possible when i was pg with dd and got tired like that. not a cure but it seemed to help a tad.

coopsma - happy birthday! btw, i think i would get a second opinion pronto if i were your friend. if she's having recurrent miscarriages, i think the doctor should be figuring out why and not poo-pooing her concernings. my thoughts are with her.

shannon - how's it going today?



i still have m/s. the all day naseau sesems to have passed (knock on wood) though most foods still don't seem appealing and i still vomit every evening. i think i'll give up eating dinner for a while. dd was using the *only* potty in our house lat night when i got sick. she's 3 and insists on sitting until something comes out so there was no way i was getting ahold of that potty :laugh: after that i just cried. i really thought i was turning the corner. so i think i'm just extra slowly moving out of this phase (I HOPE).

i'm wearing all maternity now, except for a few loose tops. when idid the tp test, i still have the same measurement but it's all belly now. i think i can feel the fundus but it makes me naseaus to touch anything lowr than my boobs or higher than my thights so i don't generally try to feel for it. i think i feel the baby is moving but i'm not totally sure that's what i'm feeling either.

so now i'm finally getting somewhat excited about this baby. thinking of the future, names, etc. even dh is excited. i can't believe that in six months i could be holding a brand new life in my hands.

sorry this is so long!

[Christi]

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[MommytoL]

Hi, I'm checking in for the week. Went to my midwife exam at 12.5 weeks today and we got to hear a little heartbeat (157 and kicking!). So cool. I have been taking progesterone pills (50 mg.) for about 3 weeks now. My level was a little low (I think 17.5) at 8.5 weeks and midwife wanted it to be around 20. I've had no extra effects from the meds. Guess it's just a little dosage. She did a blood test after one week on the progesterone and my level was where she wanted it (can't remember the number), but she told me to continue the meds until 14 weeks just to be sure. My level is probably low cuz' you you know, I'm one of those "older" moms (shhh....40) and they say progesterone decreases as you age. Some of us didn't start children until we'd been married 18 years! :D

Anyways, the nausea waves are quieting down and I'm getting a little appetite now. Yea!!! I've gained 3 pounds so far..better than the first babe...I had gained about 8 pounds by this point!! Of course, it was all boobs :wink, oh yes, and butt... Maybe BF is keeping the boobs at bay, and, oh yes, dd sucked everything out of my butt by extended BF. I do think my boobs are shrinking this time, but dh says the butt is sneaking out!! Oh yes, the fun times of pg!! :LOL

I like to hear everyone's progress and little short stories about where they are at this point. Sometimes if the weekly thread gets too "busy", if you know what I mean, I get lost in there somewhere.

Carol
Mommy to my 32 weeker dd (5/2002) and new one due (2/18/05)

[ekblad9]

Can't stay. Just subscribing. We're vacationing and I'm so exhausted. Not a vacation! :)

[wtchyhlr]

Hey Ladies,
Just a quick note to say hi. We had a lovely quick trip to Chicago. Taking the train actually gave us some decompression time each way, so we got back actually feeling like we'd had a vacation.

The guys at work have a pool started as to if I'll come back to work after the baby is born. Just amuses me.

At the midwife appt yesterday we listened to the heartbeat... a whalloping 158 bpm. sounded like a horse. She thinks my due date is Feb 4 based on both my LMP and that I'm measuring a big big. *shrug* either way, i' still know that the ONLY time we gio that month was around 22dpo. We'll see.

So, when do first time mom's begin to need maternity clothes? By the midwife's clock i'm 14 1/2 weeks, by my clock, 13 1/2. Still wearing the same jeans i was, albeit not quite so baggy, when i concieved. Only part of me thats needed bigger clothes so far has been my boobs. Kinda curious... more because i'd rather be showing than just looking like i've gotten chubby, kwim?

[Mama2Chloe]

With my first PG I started really needing to wear maternity clothes around 17 weeks I think. It will be much sooner this time though. I seriously thought I was having twins or something because of how fast I popped out this time. I'm not, as confirmed by U/S. I had heard that with the 2nd time around, your body remembers what direction to grow, but was still surprised.

Better go for now. Talk to ya later! Tricia

[jorie]

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[Dandylion]

Hello. I haven't posted in forever, but I have been reading intermittently. I thought I'd pop in and say hi.

I'm almost 16 weeks now and I'm feeling definite movement. It's mostly been just little fluttery movements that make me wonder if what I'm really feeling is baby, but for the past week or so I've also had the occasional definite baby kick. It's very exciting. In fact, this morning I was lying on my back and I was not completely awake, but not completely asleep and I felt this rolling sensation, kind of like what it feels like later on, when the baby is bigger and it's butt or elbow or something slides by. I put my hand on it and felt it again, but since I had been half asleep, after I truly woke up I started wondering if I had dreamed it. I haven't felt anything like it since.

My friend gave me a big bag of tea, which is a mixture of red raspberry leaf and um.... I don't really remember but it's a recipe from a book called Natural Pregnancy (I think!). I'm not a big tea drinker but I liked this, especially iced, and it's good for my uterus! Woohoo!

With my first I didn't need maternity clothes until I was about 5 months or so. Of course with this one I popped out right away and now I'm wearing maternity clothes whenever we leave the house, but at home I just wear sweatpants or shorts.

[milk_maker]

Good morning all! I had a very stressful and scary day yesterday. I was at work and had these intense pains in my abdomen that doubled me over. I almost fell down (in front of a bunch of people no less) and barely made it to my desk. I called the advice nurse at my clinic and left a message for her...she never called me back. I called the advice nurse at my old clinic and she told me to get in to see someone as soon as possible. After 45 minutes on hold (god I hate the Army health system) I finally got through to someone at the OB/GYN clinic and they told me to come in. My midwife was booked solid so I had to be seen by this doctor (I didn't like). He rushed in chewing the remainders of his lunch, asked me what was wrong, poked my stomach, and tried to find a heartbeat. Couldn't find it. Tears started to fill my eyes because it was just like last time...tried to find the heart...it wasn't there...sent me home...started spotting the next day. He tried to just send me out of there, but I adamantly refused so he heaved an all-suffering sigh and took me to the ultrasound room.

I got to see the "embryo" or baby as I like to say. Even the doctor had to admit that it was dancing around...it was so funny. It was waving its arms up and down and jumping around...DH says he was doing the Beavis and Butthead dance, but I prefer to think the baby's going to be a raver like me :D

So everything's okay and I'm having terrible round ligament pains. They're nothing like what I was having before and even though I know what they are, they still scare me because they double me up in pain every time. I really think mine are stress induced...I've been drinking so much water my eyeballs are floating so I'm not dehydrated. I'm under tons of stress at work though, I'm training my replacement, taking the place of another assistant who had to take a month off, and I'm still doing my old job since my replacement can't figure it out yet. I'm so stressed I usually end up crying at some point during the day (and I'm not a crier) and I need to stop it. If only I knew how...

[KateSt.]

Oh Monica :hug How scary that must have been! I'm so glad your baby is okay and you got to see him/her dancing. I hope your work situation starts to look up very soon. Thinking of you and sending you warm thoughts....

[tug]

Monica - sorry that happenned. i know how scared you must have been. my ob/gyn couldn't find the heartbeat yesterday either and i almost started crying too. i haven't felt movements yet, so the heartbeat is really important to me. i was supposed to come back to work after my appt but i just couldn't make myself. working is just so hard right now. if i don't cry each day, i want to.

plus, now my old dog is really sick again (i think its peripheral vestibular syndrome - a weird inflammation of nerve tissue between the inner ear and the cerebellum that makes them unable to walk - they just fall down - and makes them tilt their heads). we're supposed to go to florida tomorrow for vacation, but now with the dog being sick and bonnie and charlie (tropical storms/hurricanes), i'm not sure what we'll do. :crying

at least the baby is fine though! acc. to the pregnancy books, she's about 2 1/2 inches! i'm waiting for the first movement still...

[milk_maker]

tmi

[KateSt.]

Tug and Monica, how far along are you (and are you counting from conception or lmp?). I'm going to see my m/w on Friday and she wants to listen to listen for the heartbeat, but like you Monica, I had such a terrible experience the last time I was pg when they couldn't find a heartbeat and I certainly don't want to relive that.

I'm not even really sure how pg I am and I don't want them to listen for the hb until there is a definite chance of hearing it.
I'm anywhere from 9-13 weeks (though I tell people 13). If I heard it, it would provide such comfort (since I never heard it with my first 2 pg's) but if they couldn't find it, I'm afraid I'd freak out. What do you ladies think? It's really weighing on my mind....

Tug, so sorry about your beloved doggie...

[heveasoul]

tug - sorry about the terrible time you're having. :hug I hope you hear that reassuring hb soon, and that your dog starts doing better, and that you can somehow manage to enjoy your vacation!!

shyly - sorry for your horrible scare!! hope you're feeling better about everything today.

Kate - in your case perhaps you should wait to try listening for the hb. I saw my mw at 10 w 6 d, and she couldn't hear one, but I'm feeling ok about it, and she warned me beforehand that we'd likely not hear it till around 12 w.

Shannon - how are you doing?! thinking of you (always!!)

Hope everyone is having a good week, and feeling great!!

[milk_maker]

tmi

[tug]

kate - i'm almost 14 wks counting from first day of last period. i didn't temp so that's my only measuring date. we heard the heartbeat at 8 wks, but not yesterday because she was all curled up in the back. we did u/s and found her there. she was fine and the heart was beating. she was just too far from the front and not wear the doc expected her.

oh, i did have a full bladder yesterday so maybe like heveasoul said, that had something to do with it...

yay for you monica with only 16 days left!!!

[shannon0218]

Hi All, I'm hanging in, my phone has been ringing off the hook all morning, no real good business calls, just a bunch of crap to deal with. My godson's were here for breakfast this morning since the younger one leaves tonight to go to Calgary for a couple weeks to see his mom and then back to Victoria for school. It was sad to say bye to him as I likely won't see him again until next summer as he will be spending Christmas with his mom out west this year.
Kate, I'd be on the fence, if the midwife has access to an U/S to do a quick one right away if the heartbeat can't be found, I'd go for it, cause yeah, after not hearing it with the others, it will take such a weight off your mind, if she doesn't have one there, I'd wait for a couple weeks before trying to hear it.
I'm gonna take a quick nap, I have to see my rhuematoligist this afternoon and it's a long drive, so I should be rested.
I'll check back in tonight.

[Lousli]

Hi everyone,
I'm facing the beginning of my tough week. My dh leaves tonight for Santa Fe, so I'm a single parent (working full time, pregnant, and the Master's program too) plus feeling still emotionally fragile about my amnio next week.

Shannon, How are you feeling?

Kate, Wishing you luck and h/b vibes for your appointment on Friday. I rented a doppler and with much searching was able to find it around 10w. I found it quite easily at 12 and 13 w. With my first, my OB was not able to find a h/b at my 11 week appointment, but I had already had an u/s so i wasn't worried. My mom found it a week later with a doppler in her office.

Tug, enjoy the light at the end of the tunnel! 16 days!!! I actually have a month's vacation starting on the 20th, but a lot to accomplish before then...

Gotta go, bell just rang

[KateSt.]

Thanks so much for your insight and comfort, ladies. I think I will let her listen and tell myself if she can't find it, it doesn't mean my baby is gone, but perhaps is just hiding. I need to get away from black/white thoughts that "if I hear it, the baby is alive, if I don't the baby is dead." Your experiences have helped me so much, thank you.

Lesley -- I'm so sorry you're going through a stressful time. I remember when I was working full time and pursuing my Master's. I can't imagine doing it pregnant!! My thoughts are with you. And I'm sending you the most positive vibes I can for your amnio next week.

[Mama2Chloe]

Hi all!

We just found out that we will be picking up the keys to our new house tomorrow morning. I called the phone company to transfer our phone stuff for Monday. They said that the DSL service could take up to 5-7 days after it is reconnected so I may be out of the loop for a little bit. We will be moving some stuff tomorrow. We are going on a trip to visit friends and see the Sequia's Friday, but will be back here on Saturday evening. Anyway....lots of stuff to occupy my time. I'll be checking in until Monday. Take care! :love

[weesej]

Checking In:)

I am 12 weeks 4 days today. Was able to get the HB on my doppler at home with DH a few days ago. Feeling so much better, just occasional nausea now!!!!:) Feeling definite baby flutters--thinking maybe I am a week further along than I think- but I sure wouldn't mind being surprised with an early baby:) :thumb I usually feel my babies between 12.5 and 14 weeks.

Was at a beautiful birth last night, a sweet little girl and a HBAC! Wonderful strong mama! I love starting my day out knowing I have already born witness to a new life when everyone is sound asleep. 8 more mamas to go in August--I will be busy!

[shannon0218]

Congrats on the new house Cloe's mama. Thats always exciting.
My appt with the rhuematoligist went well, have to see her again in a month, not really sure why, I seem to be in remission and because of that the appt was all of 3 minutes long--not long considering I drive an hour to get there.
Anyway, picked up a pair of my new pants from my mom's today, they are very comfortable but I have to keep pulling them up.
I'm so exhausted today, not sure why, I think I slept well last night, but today I just can't keep my eyes open. My heartburn today is off the map too. I'm heating up leftovers for Steve but I think I'm just gonna have some pasta with nothing on it--mmm mmm good!! However, I have not puked, so that is good news.
Sorry, I'm in a kinda down mood today. I think I need food and sleep.

[AmBam]

Good Morning everyone! It's been slower than usual here. Hope everyone is doing okay. I am good. I am definately showing and can't wait to feel the baby move. I am a little jealous of those who have felt baby wiggles!! ;)

Will check back later. Have a good day! :) :)

[heveasoul]

Lesley - HUGE hugs going your way. Hang in there! I cannot imagine your workload - I hope you can find some relief/support somehow! And my thoughts are with you during this difficult waiting time. :hug

weesej - What a great way to start the day!

Shannon - hope the meal and sleep have you feeling better today.

No news here...:yawning:
:LOL seriously - I'm happy and grateful about it. Appetite's good. Made a roast chicken supper on Monday and still enjoying the leftovers (I loooove leftovers!) Glad my early tri aversion to fruits has passed - I'm loving all the wonderful fruit that's in season! Unfortunately, with that returned my sweet tooth - but hey, my MIL read a study saying that babies born to moms who eat chocolate during pregnancy have happier dispositions! :)

[shannon0218]

Morning all, just getting out of bed. Slept badly last night, for some reason Bedlam seems to be worried about me and I kept waking up to her standing over me staring in my face. Then on the multiple trips to the bathroom she would be following me so close she was stepping on my heels. I closed her out of the bathroom and she spent the hole time leaning against the door whining. I let her out and stuff, so she wasn't trying to get my attention for her own needs, I don't know what's up with her. Havoc was fine so I'm not concerned, Havoc is pretty perceptive and always knows when somethings wrong with me before I do, but Bedlam is about as perceptive as your average rock, who knows.
We have our very last appt and U/S with the fertility clinic today at 1:00, I'm only a day shy of 14 weeks, so I'm hoping to see lots.
Lesley, hope your week is progressing alright.

[heveasoul]

Bedlam is about as perceptive as your average rock, who knows.

:laugh:

Wow - good thoughts going your way for this aft's appt!!! Very exciting! :D Hey - our "week-marker day" (:scratch) is the same - I'm 12 weeks tomorrow! How is your day going, eating-wise?

[shannon0218]

Had my cheese and jam sandwich (nobody understands it, just my godson and I) but haven't had anything else as yet. My bp is today is 113/74, so very good once again, I wonder what happened there a week ago??

[Lousli]

Thanks for the well wishes.

Shannon, glad to hear you're eating okay, even though cheese and jam sounds yucky to me. I'm wishing you tons of good vibes for your u/s this afternoon.

Well, I'd like to say more, but recess is ending, so I'm back to the kiddos.

I'll try to check in after work.

BTW, I haven't felt movement yet either, but i bet it will be soon.

[shannon0218]

Well, we're back, we've officially been given the boot from the fertility clinic. (Yippee) The ultrasound was awesome, baby was kicking and sucking his thumb, we could clearly see the whole profile of him with a clear little nose and chin. The ultrasound tech said it looked like he was playing hacky sack with my bladder, which may explain my many trips to the bathroom last night.

[heveasoul]

Yahooooooo Shannon!!! :bouncy :banana :thumb

[wtchyhlr]

Hackey Sack with the bladder, huh... how funny

[Mama2Chloe]

Hi everyone! I'm so tired! We have been moving all morning. Just my husband and me due to it being Thursday and most of our friends are at work. We are still planning on going on our trip tomorrow morning, but will be back Saturday night. We should get a lot done on Sunday with a lot of help. I'm excited about the new house, but it is a lot of work to move and we have our final inspection on the 19th (Next Thursday)

Shannon- I feel you on the many bathroom trips. I went 5 times last night. It wasn't like this with the first PG this early on. I just know that it will get worse! :thumb

Well, I better go for now. Take care!

Tricia :love

[KateSt.]

:thumb Shannon!!! :banana :banana Great News!! What a comfort to see your sweet babe doing so well (btw, do you know it's a boy or do you "know" it's a boy?).

Mama2Chloe -- I hate moving, I can't imagine doing it pregnant. Hope you're settled soon!

I have my m/w appt tomorrow and it's been causing me so much anxiety my ibs has started acting up :eyesroll Wish me luck. I sooooooo want to hear the heartbeat (and so want to be able to deal with it if I don't).

[shannon0218]

I'm assuming it's a boy because only a person with testicles could cause so much discomfort to one person and have fun doing it :laugh:
Seriously though, I just have a feeling, I could be wrong.

[shannon0218]

I'll be keeping my fingers crossed for you tomorrow Kate!!! What time is your appt??

[KateSt.]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Of course you're right, Shannon!!!

Thanks for your well-wishes. My appt is at 3:00 EST...
(My emotions are ranging in spectrum from excitement to sheer terror!)

[ella-makes-3]

Hey all, glad to hear that everyone is doing ok, and starting to maybe feel a little better? Hope so.

I had a bad day yesterday. Was sick in the am, cooking dd's eggs for breakfast set it off, yuck. Have had a headcahe for about 2 weeks, that will just not go, and was so tired as I am having problems sleeping at night. But today is a little better. Dh was off, so helped out with dd, who was cranky today, which is very unlike her, so I presume that she is feeling bad also.

Shannon, that is great that the clinic kicked you out, and that you also got to see the little babe. How exciting.
So we are 14 weeks tommorrow. I have to go shopping for maternity clothes. My jeans are a little snug around the waist! Bras too, got a double boob thing going on, that will be all the rage in Vogue this fall!!

Kate, am thinking about you, hope appt went ok.

Well am going for another u/s on Monday, as they found a cyst on my ovary at first u/s appt. They want to check and see if it is getting any bigger. Does anyone have any experience with these?
Apparently they are very commomn in pregnancy, and usually go away. Just want to arm myself with knowledge in case they decide that drastic action has to be taken, which my m/w talked about briefly last time.

[shannon0218]

Wow, I hope the cyst turns out to be nothing and that Ella is feeling better tomorrow as well. Was just sleeping on the couch for a couple hours, hoping I can sleep tonight. I gotta stop the evening nap!

[heveasoul]

happy friday everyone!!!

I am soooo distracted today...maybe it's due to hitting 12 weeks today, but I just want to think, plan, talk nothing but baby today!!! Last night I picked up some things at a consignment store - a baby sheepskin (baby in that it's cut only 1" long, and smaller than what you'd buy for a décor item), a moses basket with bedding, and two maternity clothes items (which I won't start wearing till maybe September, not at work yet, anyway...)

I'll be thinking of you, Kate, this aft. Happy :heartbeat vibes!!

[wtchyhlr]

Happy Friday the 13th, ladies.

[HelloKitty]

Hi ladies,
I'm so sorry I haven't been around very much over the last month or more. I was really sick for awhile there and couldn't deal with looking at the screen for very long. I feel much better now and am hoping to keep more up to date with everyone!
Kitty

[jorie]

I just had to post--its been forever. I've had such a week or two. I seriously don't know where August is going! Lots going on at our house. We are weaning from the breast, the pacifer, the crib and diapers! All at once! Ds has been refusing to wear diapers and the 1/2hr diaper changes were wearing me out so I decided we are going to start potty training! Ds also refuses to even sit on the potty! I broke down finally and got some pull-ups, which he will wear ("Big boy diapers!") but I want to make or buy some cloth equvilent--I can't put the kid in cloth for two years and then spend the next 6mo in disposables!
Ds also doesn't want to sleep in his crib anymore. We put a matteress down on the floor, which he will sleep on, but last night was the first time he slept through the night on it. Every other night he woke up a bunch seeming confused about where he was and wouldn't sleep until I brought him to bed, which is fine with me as long as he sleeps, but dh has some philosophical problem with co-sleeping. I get from dh "he just needs to learn to sleep on his own!" so the other night I bit the bullet and let ds cry for a while at which point dh comes running up the stairs, all freaked out "my poor baby, whats wrong!" and brings ds to bed with us. ARGH The kid knows when we don't agree. I'm hoping we can settle this this weekend-make some sort of sleep plan together.
I also quit nursing on Monday. I just reached the point where I was done! I am usually a really tactile person, but with this pregnancy, I don't hardly want to be touched. Then, my milk dried up and it was starting to really hurt when ds nursed. I had to quit for my sanity. So I now tell him "we are all done having nummies" when he asks. He seems fine with it, complains a bit, but is easily distracted, so I guess I'm not a completely horrible mother!;)
Oh, and I quit taking my anti-anxiety med because I wasn't sleeping--well, exhausted during the day, but couldn't sleep soundly at night. Now I'm sleeping better (when ds isn't waking up!) but just really anxious. Not so much on a concious level, but on a physical level--ie have physical symtoms of anxiety, but can't tell you "gee I'm anxious about X right now" which makes a productive solution difficult! Anyway. Thanks for letting me vent! :hug to everyone
we are off to the State Fair with my IL so the weekend has the potential to be really fun or a complete disaster!

Oh, anyone with potty training wisdom, send it my way!!

[shannon0218]

Afternoon all. I had a rough night and morning today, woke up around 2 am puking and only stopped a couple hours ago. I wish I knew what triggered these times. Yesterday I was so good all day, then today, back to sleeping on the bathmat.
Kate, are you back yet???
Hevea, sounds like you made some good finds at the consignment shop, I'll have to get a location of that one from you, the one here in Milton has great deals on clothing, but I haven't seen things like a Moses basket there.
Well.... back to my couch......

[KateSt.]

:heartbeat :heartbeat :heartbeat :heartbeat :heartbeat
I heard it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, I was so happy I teared and I haven't stopped smiling since!!!!!!! My m/w found it as soon as she put the wand on my belly so I didn't have to agonize for even a minute. It was lound and strong -- about 165 beats per minute.

It was the most wonderful music to my ears. Thanks for your well-wishes ladies, and Shannon for looking for me. :love

Now I feel like this pregnancy is real! There's a real, live baby in me!!!!

Shannon, I'm so sorry you're feeling sick again! I was so hopeful that you'd start to feel better. Maybe this time is just a last hurrah???

Jorie -- sounds like you've had your share of stress lately. I sure hope your weekend is really fun (instead of a complete disaster!)

Hevea-- I'm so envious of your consignment finds! I so want a Moses basket, but never thought to look at a consignment shop. Hmmmm....maybe I'll have to check a couple out.

Love and hugs to the rest of you ladies...

[shannon0218]

Great news Kate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm so happy for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lasofia]

hurrah for Kate!! It feels so much better now, doesn't it?

jorie - oddly enough my ds (22 months) is also weaning, learning to sleep alone, and potty training right now. A lot at once, though he started the potty earlier.

He weaned himself, to my shock (always loved to nurse) a couple weeks ago. He would ask to nurse, then just smile at my nipple and want to lick it or touch it. I'd tell him, Nurse or don't. And he wouldn't. Then he told me "Teo not nurse anymore, Teo pretend." He'll sometimes ask me to lift my shirt and then he'll put his head against my breast, close his eyes, and murmur, "So warm.." then pull my shirt down and make sucking noises, and hop up saying, "pretend nurse!"

The sleep alone - he's never been a good sleeper. He's no fun to sleep with because he talks, laughs, screams, hits, and kicks in his sleep. dh got tired of him coming to bed with us, so i was going in to him when he woke up and staying the night in his bed. I wanted to help him sleep better (but WITHOUT crying), and I wanted to sleep better (without being kicked) but until a couple weeks ago I barfed everytime I woke, so it wasn't worth working on. Last week I started gentle sleep training - going to him when he wakes, but then reminding him he sleeps by himself now, and comes to snuggle with me when the sun comes up. (We talked about it for a few days first.) I don't leave if he cries, I wait until he's ok with me leaving. The first night was hard. 20 wake ups in a couple hours. But the next night was 3, and the last couple just one or two. I sleep so much better! And he comes flying into my room at 7, saying, "daytime, mama! birds singing! snuggle time!"

Potty - he started using the potty for pooping abruptly, about 3 months ago. We started putting him on it to pee every hour or so, but he resisted, so we waited a bit. Then he mostly stopped protesting, but would never tell us when he needed to go - we just plopped him on the potty at all transistions - wake up, before eating, after eating, before going outside, etc. Then he started noticing when he peed, and saying, "Peed in diaper, need use potty." Which is odd, since once he peed in his diaper there was nothing for the potty...

We then started putting him in underwear a lot of the time. He graduated to saying, "uh oh! peeing!" and then running for the potty, leaving a damp trail. Now he sometimes will actually tell us when he needs pee BEFORE it comes out. Mostly we just remind him every hour or two. I've heard others start out putting them on the pot every 30 minutes. And we definetly kept him nekkid at first, made it easier somehow.

um. that was a lot about ds. hope you were interested! :)

[Lousli]

Okay, I just have to vent. As if I'm not stressed enough, I come home from work today to a message that my insurance has denied my claim for the amnio!! i tried to call back, but the office was closed, so I don't even know why. So now dh and I have to fork over $2000, plus probably $300 more for the FISH test. We don't have the money, of course. DH is on his business trip with his mom, so he's going to try to borrow the money from her, and hopefully when my parents get home, they will be able to give us the money to repay her. I guess it turns out I wasn't joking when I said my mom got to pay for the amnio if my insurance denied it! Grrrrr..

[heveasoul]

Holy :censored Lesley! Oh man - I hope you can manage to find a resolution - and salvage some of this weekend. Try to rest...? :hug

Kate - I am sooooooooo happy to hear your news. I started up the machine at home this evening especially to check in on you!! :love

Shannon - you bet! Once you're feeling better (please God, soon!!), you can take a trip out to my place and we'll go shopping!! (where's the shopping gals smiley?)

[ella-makes-3]

Hi Ladies, just checking in to say hi.

Kate, so glad that everything went ok at appt. I was thinking of you, and had everything crossed!!!!

Shannon, sorry that you are feeling yucky again. Sending well wishes your way.

Lesley, hope you get through to the insurance company. I had a similar problem with my first pg. They didn't cover a routine lab work procedure as the doc sent it to a different lab than usual. I kicked up a stink, which is very unlike me, but we were broke, and other bill would have sunk us, and they suddenly accepted the bill. Maybe it was just unbelievable luck, but worth a try.

I am desperately trying to get through to friends and family in Florida, but have had no luck yet.Am sure that everyone is ok, but still worrying.

Have a good weekend everyone

[Lousli]

Well, at this point we're hoping the insurance company will reimburse us. Funny thing happened yesterday. I called my aunt, who lives in Florida to check on her. She was fine, didn't get hit hard by the strom as was expected. I ended up telling her about the amnio and the insurance problem. Well, later last night, my mom actually called her from Indonesia because she was worried about the hurricane too. My aunt told her about me, and my mom said not to worry about the money, they'd pay for it. Which was great and took a lot of stress off of me.

Today has been much better. I got to sleep until 7, then we went to the zoo with a friend of mine from work and his wife and their son. I let my daughter eat crappy food, but she had a great time. She is now sitting quietly in front of a Schoolhouse Rock video, and shows every sign of being about to pass out. Which would be good because I'm pretty tired from carry her around the zoo all morning!

[shannon0218]

Oh Lesley, that's great news, the last thing you needed was that worry on top of everything else!
I think it's good news in a bad way, I think I have the flu, that's good news because the thought of the morning sickness coming back full force really upset me. I checked my temp last night as I was really cold but Steve said the house was warm, anyway, I had a fever and felt better after a couple tylenol. So still puking but at least I also think it's a flu bug passing through rather than more morning sickness.
So I know a fever is bad during pregnancy, but how on top of it do I have to stay?? It drops to normal within an hour of tylenol, but only stays down for about 5 hours. Steve is being good and is really taking care of me, he brings a new cold cloth for my head every couple hours.

[ella-makes-3]

Shannon, you could get in a bath to try to bring your temp down. One that is a little lower than your body temp I think is what does the trick.

Lesley, glad that the amnio payment is being taken care of. A little less stress is good.
Hope you got to relax a little.

Ok, off to take a nice bath. Hope it will mellow me out so I will sleep all night long, mmmmmmmmm.

[shannon0218]

Wow, where's everyone been today??? I'm feeling a little better, fever is gone, just the aching body and still some puking to deal with, but I got out of the house and did some groceries and some house work.
How's everyone else doing today?? Lesley, I hope your company today helped to relax you. When do your parents get home??
Elblad, how are you doing??? Is it just me or has it been a while since you checked in??
Kate I hope you are still riding that cloud that came from hearing the baby's heartbeat!!
Well, off to continue house cleaning--what else would one do on a sunday evening???

[heveasoul]

Shannon - ahem - mentioned that I should let everyone know I've started a new thread (http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=182369), so c'mon over!! :D