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kelly
11-16-2002, 04:08 PM
:D I am now officially 0 dpo (okay, so I'm pushing it, but I am excited). Tomorrow will be 1 dpo, and I am in the 2ww!

I am hoping and wishing for all of us this time a BFP after Thanksgiving!! Lots of baby dust to everyone! I'm sure I'll be obsessing soon...:rolleyes:

Kelly




AdinaL
11-16-2002, 08:32 PM
I am with you. 2-3 dpo here. Waiting waiting waiting.....
Should know by december 1st - that is my test date. no af by then and I will be happy!!!!!
baby dust to everyone!

karenpl
11-16-2002, 11:18 PM
I am here with you! I finally ovulated yesterday at 17dpo, saw such wonderful ferning on my microscope. Now the 2ww and the associated obsessing starts! Could I be? Is that nausea? Or am I just playing mindgames with myself? Holding my breath every morning, willing that temp to go up up up. Is 1dpo too early to take a hpt? LOL

Let's all graduate this time!

Karen, impatiently yours!

Arduinna
11-16-2002, 11:21 PM
Good luck you guys!! I hope you all get +++ hpts soon.

kelly
11-17-2002, 08:50 PM
:rotflmao

Karen - LOL! While I was waiting for my computer to finish loading the MDC website, I was thinking to myself "Hmmm, 1 dpo and no pg signs yet...":D !

Here's to loads of sticky ++++ this cycle! Baby dust to all!

Kelly

Annais
11-18-2002, 12:39 PM
Hopefully I'll be joining you next week!
Good luck, all!
:thumb

Aurora
11-18-2002, 03:01 PM
Count me in, I think.:rolleyes:

I didn't chart this month, you know, I was just taking it easy.:rolleyes: I had almost NO cf and the little I had was just sticky. I usually have O pain, but I didn't. I took my temp the last 3 mornings and they are post O temps, but who knows? Every month at 5-7 dpo WITHOUT FAIL my boobs start hurting and I crave orange juice. I would guess I am 3 dpo. I guess we will see.

Truck loads of baby dust to everyone!:baby

:hug to all!

karenpl
11-18-2002, 11:05 PM
Well, officially I am 3dpo, but temp went DOWN again this morning!! So now I am totally confused as to what is going on! http://www.FertilityFriend.com/home/13f56/

I got sore boobs, ovulation pain (I think), temp dip, perfect full ferning, nice open cervix. The only thing lacking was egg whitey mucus, it was more watery instead. I was so sure I ovulated!

So when my temp went down again this morning, I was really confused, and still am. Guess there is nothing to do but hope for high temp again tomorrow! Just to be sure, I grabbed hubby tonight, so that we won't miss any late ovulation LOL

Baby dust to all!

Karen

Sahara
11-19-2002, 12:22 PM
I like the name of this 2ww. I'm officially waiting now, 1-2 dpo. Guess I'm going to wait right through the holidays with ya'll. karen, I've had my temp do that too, and it went up the next day and I had O'd and just had a weird low temp one morning. The TCOYF folks call it a fallback, I call it frustrating.
good luck everyone!
Steph

Alstrameria
11-19-2002, 05:48 PM
Well, since we bd al fresco, technically we are ttc! We were going to wait until next month, but I'll take it! :D

I think I am 8 dpo, or close to that anyway. I am very excited about #2, I hope there's enough babydust for me too! ;)

RasJane
11-19-2002, 05:55 PM
Mind if I join the party?
I had a nice full shift, very, very stretchy mucus. I am now about 3-4 dpo. I am trying not to think of it (yeah right!), but I am having such bizarre symptoms. I can smell everything. I cleaned the bathroom thoroughly yesterday and vinegard the floor again today b/c I swear the whole place smells like pee. I also have the tired-can't quite get up and move feeling.
I am hoping you all will keep me from obsessing. I keep telling myself it is far to early to feel anything other than perfectly normal.
To re-introduce myself: I am Sarah. We stopped preventing a year ago. I was here now and then, but I decided to keep away for fear I would obsess and therefore not get pg. But I am back cuz you all are so awesome! And heck, I haven't gotten pg regardless;) .

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
baby dust for all!

kelly
11-20-2002, 09:57 AM
:D Welcome, newcomers!! Hope we're ALL lucky this cycle!

I am now 4 dpo and starting to obsess:rolleyes: I know, it's so early, but I want a child so very badly that it's impossible not to obsess!

How is everyone else doing?

Kelly

Aurora
11-20-2002, 12:19 PM
Welcome all!!!

Well, I wasn't sure if I O'd or not this month, but my boobs are sore today and I am craving OJ. That ALWAYS happens after I O. :D I am encouraged! :love

THIS IS YOUR MONTH KELLY!!! :love

Sarah, I grew up in Canby, Oregon!

Lots of love and baby dust to everyone!

:hug to all!

AdinaL
11-20-2002, 04:13 PM
Doing well here. 5-6dpo here. And just hoping. I am trying to be calm and so far am managing it.
Lots of deep breaths.
so far so good. No signs - but no not signs either.
Just gotta hold out through thanksgiving. Then I will know one way or the other.
woohoo!!

karenpl
11-20-2002, 04:36 PM
Obsessing here too and wondering why the heck my temp is doing those weird things. I think I am 5dpo, but am puzzled by the weird nosedive of my temp.

At least now I can think that I might be pregnant, unlike first half of cycle when I know I am not. And I can convince myself that I just have to be pregnant, positive affirmations are a good thing, right? LOL

I will see ob on Friday, to talk about all the early miscarriages I have been having over this last year. I am wondering whether he will put me on progesterone suppositories.

Kelly, since you started this thread, it would only be fair if you graduated on it too! You just will have to!

Adina, patience vibes to you! Thanksgiving will be here in no time at all :-)

Aurora, glad you know that you ovulated, hope this will be the last time for at least 9 months!

Sarah, welcome back to the board! Sounds like you might have something good going on, hope your stay will be really short this time!

Jennay, hope this will the cycle for you!

Steph, yes, frustrating sounds like a much better name for it than fallback pattern!!!! Good luck to you!

Karen

RasJane
11-20-2002, 07:29 PM
Thank you for the welcome back. This really is such an awesome thread--seeing everyone encourage everyone else.
I too hope this is a short stay. May we all be jumping to the pg thread in a matter of 2 short weeks!!
Not feeling as many signs today. But who knows? I think it is so very hard not to obsess. Even before I was trying, I would obsess the other way, KWIM? The joy of owning a uterus.
For me, as for many of you it seems, it is frustrating to know we tried for, I think 2 months with ds. And now....
Anyway, karenpl, good luck at the appt. Maybe your body will decide, "hey let's be sticky!"
kelly, I appreciate you starting this thread. You seem so positive. Something we all need. Thank you!
AdinaL-Yes! We can do Turkey day. And let's hope we all have an extra twinkle at Christmas/solstace/etc time! I don't think Santa could bring me a better gift.
Gotta go, story teller is on duty now I guess.
Hugs and dust to all!

EnviroBecca
11-21-2002, 01:24 PM
Well, I'm on CD18 and may have seen ferns in my Ovulens this morning (dry mouth=not enough sample to see clearly) and when I got up I had a surge of CM--not stretchy, watery, but that's what I had in Aug. when I definitely O'd--so I was late to work. ;) While lying still afterward and visualizing the sperm burrowing into a nice juicy egg, I got cramping on my left side. Was it real or just because I was thinking about it???

We're going to spend next week visiting my grandpa and his wife, and my parents and brother will also be there. I'm glad not to know for sure I'm in early pregnancy because that would be hard to keep secret (my parents are firm believers in "Don't tell anyone until the second trimester.") but it may be difficult to keep my suspicions to myself if I start feeling really weird. Hopefully the travel and sightseeing will distract me...but if grandpa starts in with "When are you going to make me a great-grandpa?" that'll be nerve-wracking! I guess "Soon!" is the best response. :)

Babydust and serene patience to everyone!!!

FreeRangeMama
11-21-2002, 02:42 PM
Hi All, I just thought I would jump in :) I am 14 DPO and pretty sure I am pg, but not entirely sure its going to stick. My temps are still high, but this is only my 3rd PP cycle (still nursing my 19 mo ds several times a day) and my LP has only been 8-10 days. I took a test yesterday, but it was one of those "is it a line or not" results. I had to leave for an hour and when I came back it was definately there. Of course the results shouldn't be read after 10 min, blah blah blah. Still got my hopes up though. Dh is trying to convince me to wait unti next week to test again and I told him I would try to wait that long....we'll see.
Good luck everyone :):):)
Laurie

Eman'smom
11-21-2002, 08:27 PM
Can I join in:D

I'm 2dpo and dh had a peanut butter sandwich yesterday and I almost pucked, the smell was overwhelming.

How accurate are those tests that say you can test 6 dpo I can't wait 2 weeks to find out.

Baby dust all around

birdwomyn
11-21-2002, 10:27 PM
Well, here I am!

We inseminated yesterday morning and I went straight from there to the 36 hour process of my nephew's birth through which I coached my sister and her husband. He was born 3 hours ago, 7 pounds, 4 ounces, reddish hair, 21" long...

I am hoping the baby dust or anything else baby related rubbed off on me!

I am off to bed.... haven't had much sleep to speak of...

kathy

RasJane
11-22-2002, 10:27 AM
Birdwomyn! That is so awesome. A very big welcome to your nephew. How incredible that you could be a part of it. I so hope that some of that baby magic got absorbed by you.
I am still feeling a little weird. Tried to talk ds into a nap yesterday before 9am. I didn't get far. :rolleyes:
I have heard of those super sensitive tests. I don't want to use them though. I try to wait until I am at least 1-2 days past my longest cycle or 14 dpo. Partly because once I start testing, I have a hard time stopping. And that leads to a small fortune spent on tests. And I want to save for a house, so I wait anxiously instead.:D
How's everyone's temps? Mine went up this morning, but ds crawled in bed about 6. So I don't know if it was me or his hot little furnace of a body.
((((everyone))))

AdinaL
11-22-2002, 10:38 AM
well - at this point all I have to say is...if gas is an early sign of being pg....then I have got to be pg!!! I have woken up with really stunning gas, gone to bed with the same, and all through the day too. sorry if that is tmi. but ugh - this is NOT normal. For my dh maybe, but not for me!:LOL I am about 6-7 dpo - nd no PMS signs at all. No sore boobs, no real bloating - even though I have been drinking water like it is going out of style. Just completely wiped out all the time and gassy.....such fun such fun.
:baby****baby dust to all****:baby

kelly
11-22-2002, 11:18 AM
Well, I'm 6 dpo now, too. Mostly feeling heavy and bloated, with very mild cramping on and off since my IUI. Adina - you're in good company - I've got the gas issue, too (and noone else to blame it on!):eek - LOL!!

I had no idea that there were hpt that can detect so early! That's probably a good thing, b/c I'd be testing even earlier than I already do:rolleyes: . Good news is I'm going out of town to visit friends next week, so I won't be so tempted to test early. Of course, it will be very sad if AF comes while I'm up there...

I'm keeping healthy baby thoughts for all of us here!

Kelly

Sahara
11-22-2002, 01:02 PM
OK kelly and adina, the gas much be catching, I had it so bad yesterday I was curled up on the couch in PAIN! I'm thinking it was the grouper sandwich, but would love to blame it on a wee fertilized egg making him/herself known!

RasJane, I'll keep my fingers crossed that those temps stay up, warm ds or not!

birdwomyn, :banana woooo hoooo!!!!!!!!!


Eman'smom, :W
I wish I could believe I could test that early and know for sure, I've never heard of such an early, accurate test!

akirasmama, wow, that sounds pretty good to me, can't wait to hear for sure!


I'm 5 dpo, and trying to decide whether or not to take my PG tests with me out of town. I'll be 14 dpo the day we get back. Patience, patience!

Aurora
11-22-2002, 01:24 PM
Hi all! 7-8dpo here and a little hopeful.:)

I always test too early and then test every day after that until AF shows.:rolleyes:

Sooooooooooooooooooooo no early testing for me this month either.;)

:baby Buckets of baby dust for everyone! :baby

:hug to all!!

FreeRangeMama
11-23-2002, 09:42 AM
Looks like its not gonna happen for me this month :( Despite 2 faint positives AF started today. A chemical preg. maybe? Maybe next month. Good luck to everyone else in the 2ww though :)

kelly
11-23-2002, 10:11 AM
Akirasmama - :hug

Kelly

MamaSoleil
11-23-2002, 03:38 PM
Okay...cd16 here!!! NOt sure when I O'd, but not sure when....I've been having AF sort of cramps, and there was some spotting in my undies!:eek

So, I'm deciding to enter the 2WW stage!!!!!!:D

I haven't read all the posts on this thread yet, but I will tonight when I get to work, in 1.5hrs....
So excited....but, I've taken like 4 HPT's this week :rolleyes:
I'm such a LOSER!....but of course...as those who know me...I'm FEELING pg!

Oh well, two wks to go!

Aurora
11-23-2002, 03:56 PM
akirasmama- :hug I'm sorry! :hug

Welcome to the 2ww mamasoleil! Your enthusiasm made me smile. :) It was just what I needed. Thanks! :love

:hug to all!

MamaSoleil
11-23-2002, 03:59 PM
(((Akirasmama))))

Sorry for Af....but you said you got two faint positives??Are you SURE it's AF???

karenpl
11-23-2002, 04:47 PM
Welcome mamasoleil! May this be your last 2ww for a long long time!!!

Akirasmama, so sorry!!!! I have been there last time, not fun! {{{ HUGS }}}

Me, my cycle is still screwy, still not sure whether I really ovulated or not, I guess we'll see. But not much hopes for pregnancy here, just too screwy of a cycle!

The good news is that I saw an obgyn and she was very positive! Next cycle is going to be testing cycle. The cycle after that I fully intend to get pregnant! :-) I posted about the visit in a new thread for whomever is interested.

Let's have some graduates!!!

Karen

FreeRangeMama
11-23-2002, 09:32 PM
Thanks everyone, you guys are awesome! I'm sure now it was an early m/c as I have been having lots of bad cramping and bleeding (uncharacteristic for me). We weren't really "trying" before this (just not preventing) and dh had been worried about it being bad timing for another one, now we both realize how much we'd like to have another one. I guess we'll have to try extra hard next month ;)
Thanks for your support.

Aurora
11-24-2002, 12:34 PM
Karen-good news!! :hug

akirasmama-I am sorry. :hug I hope you are feeling better soon. :hug

Tuli
11-24-2002, 04:40 PM
I'm sorry akirasmama- :hug

I am pretty much in the 2ww-I O today, according to Ovusoft. I had ferning with my Ovulens. A little on Friday and lots yesterday, none today. I have to say, I thought I'd get more warning, but we BD'ed Thursday and Saturday, and will today, so I'm hoping we timed things well.

I had menstrual-type cramps all the way up until Wednesday, and now they are gone and I have no O cramping. So strange. But between the chart, a + OPK and my Ovulens, I'd say the verdict is in-I definately seem to be ovulating! :p

So here begins another 2 weeks of torture. :rolleyes:

babydust to all who desire it! :love

-Tuli

Aurora
11-24-2002, 05:24 PM
Welcome Tuli!! :love

AdinaL
11-24-2002, 07:43 PM
Welcome Tuli.
I feel like I have done this before.

Well - i have one more week to go....and I am trying not to think aboout it at all. Fortunately I will be in the car tues & Weds and sat & Sun...which will make it harder to test....or I will be driving back from Seattle with af. yick.

NOthing terribly new to report. Still hyper emotional. weepy and all...still fairly gassy (ooohhh goody), can smell everything really strongly, had an interesting moment with food aversion today, boobs aren't very tender yet - but are working up to it. And my abdomen - right over my uterus is slightly tender...not a lot - just a little that I noticed when I leaned over something yesterday. Who knows? Not me! Never been pg - no idea. ugh. Just hoping that af doesn't show up DURING Thanksgiving...while I am in Seattle, with my two best friends and one of their babies. I don't think I could cope with a year old running around while I am tthat depressed....
anyway...will check in tomorrow before I leave!!!
***********************baby dust to all and to all a good night*******************
(and now back to our regularly scheduled chanting)
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Aurora
11-24-2002, 08:33 PM
:hug Adina!!!

I hope you have a GREAT trip!:love

MamaSoleil
11-24-2002, 10:56 PM
Have a great trip Adina!!!!!! :love

Hey tuli!!!!!:wave

Annais
11-25-2002, 09:29 AM
I'm officially in the 2ww!
I'm at cd16, and my cycle is usually about 26 days, so I believe I am dpo4. I don't really chart yet, so I'm just guessing.
Well, I'm not feeling very positive, since we were only able to bd once during my fertile days, but I tried to time it well!
I'm also very grumpy and emotional the last few days. I could start crying right now just typing this. :crying Sorry.
I'm sure this is more than you ever wanted to know about me, but hey, you are the only people I can obsess with, I'm so glad to have you here!

EnviroBecca
11-25-2002, 09:48 AM
I've been seeing some ferns! :bgbounce I hope we've already caught the egg in the last few days, but we'll just have to keep trying to make sure! Good thing we'll have our own hotel room over Thanksgiving....

I had a BAD round of headaches lately--headache for part of almost every day for >2 weeks, and constantly feeling "about to get a headache" in between! :( I've been a "headache person" for years, but usually I have only a few per month. I don't think there's any hormonal connection, but the reason I'm mentioning it here is the emotional weirdness angle--several times in these 2 weeks I got teary-eyed thinking mooshy baby thoughts, and several times I teared up because I was in such pain, but all of those times I was either in public or in the middle of something that needed to get finished, so I distracted myself and held back the tears. Well, yesterday there were a lot of things I absolutely had to get done in order to leave for Thanksgiving today, but I was getting yet another headache, and it was just so frustrating, I plunked down and started sobbing. By the time I was washing my face afterward, I no longer had a headache, and I've been feeling back to normal ever since! Can it be that I just needed a good cry all this time?!? :crying :)

May you all find yourselves giving thanks for +++++ this Thanksgiving! But if not...remember to be thankful for your loving, secure situation that makes TTC possible. :hug

MamaSoleil
11-25-2002, 02:20 PM
Annais~You want to talk about grumpy??? I owe my fam big time!!!:( Been feeling like such a monster...like...where did I go???
I'm cd17....my cycles are *usually*28 days...so 11 days to go!!

Envirobecca~it's so odd to hear you all talking about thanksgiving...cause we already had ours!!! :D

Think I"m gonna go lie down before I growl at any unsuspecting innocent bystander!!!

RasJane
11-25-2002, 05:36 PM
Hope hope hope hope hope hope hope
wish wish wish wish wish wish wish wish
baby baby baby baby baby baby baby baby

Ok, here's some positive chants for all.
I don't really know how I'm feeling. I have been feeling a little fat. And last night I ate like a pig right up until I went to bed. But it could just be pms.
I don't have to go anywhere or see anyone for Thanksgiving, so I can just sit right here with dh and ds and obsess my little heart out.
I have to ask though, when do you all test. Should I go by cycle length (mine varies) or by luteal phase? I am thinking of waiting till 14dpo and if temp is still up, then testing. Or should I wait until, like, cd26 and then go for it? Which in this case would actually be earlier. I think I am cd21 now, 10dpo.
And thank you EnviroBecca for the reminder of what is really important.:love

kelly
11-26-2002, 05:31 PM
Hi Everyone - I am now 10 dpo. Took a hpt this morning and got a BFN :( . Sad. I know it's still early, but it would have been so great...

Now having mild cramping again, hoping it's not AF coming. I'm leaving for New York tomorrow morning, so maybe she won't know where to find me ;) . Hope I have great news for you all when I get back! Also hope you've got some for me :thumb . Take care all, and have a great holiday.

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Baby Dust To All!!*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

Kelly

Aurora
11-26-2002, 09:35 PM
Hey all-AF found me tonight.:crying

I don't know what was up this cycle, not even sure I O'd and my cycle was only 26 days. It has NEVER been that short. It is always 29 days, rarely 28. Since I wasn't sure if I O'd I told myself that I wasn't too optimistic, but here I am :bawl I think we are going to wait a few months before ttc again. Dh's job is going to be CRAZY next fall so we will try again in March for a December baby. I just feel tired and sad and I'm sorry I am whining. :(

Baby dust and love to all!

Viola
11-26-2002, 11:42 PM
Sorry Aurora. :hug Send you conception vibes for March. I'm thinking of waiting until January to try again, but I think a December baby would be great!

Annais
11-27-2002, 08:56 AM
I'm sorry about AF, Aurora. Blah, no fun. :(

Well, I 'm keeping my fingers crossed for everyone!
I was lurking on the May Mamas thread (I like to punish myself!) in Pregnancy, and thinking, wouldn't it be great if we could start an August Mama's thread?! Sigh.

The only positive signs I have are: I was REALLY grumpy and evil last week, which is sort of what happened the first time...and my breasts are pretty darn sore. But, that could also be extreme PMS (and really early PMS). Who knows, I just sit here in limbo, but I 'm thankful to finally be able to try again!

Babydust to all!
*:baby * :baby * :baby * :baby * :baby * :baby * :baby * :baby * :baby *

Aurora
11-27-2002, 10:07 AM
Thanks Amy and Annais! :love

Amy- Lots of baby dust for Jan! :baby Good luck!

Annais- Hang in there! :baby

branwyn
11-27-2002, 10:10 AM
playing the 2ww game
still have a week left...
ack...driving me crazy
am i tired bc im pregnant or bc i am getting sick?
am i grouchy bc i am pregnant or bc i need to eat?
am i nauseated bc i am pregnant or bc i took my prental vitamins?
ackkkkk
the waiting.....

MamaSoleil
11-27-2002, 10:25 AM
Branwyn....why are you taking prenatals? They are really strong, and I thought unless pg, one should not take them??? Just a ???

branwyn
11-27-2002, 10:35 AM
my obgyn said i should start taking them. i just had 2 surgeries (1 in aug and 1 in oct) for endo, had to have 1 ovary and tube removed. when we went back for our post op he gave us the choice of taking some medicine that makes one go into menopause (temporarily) or to start trying right away (bc within 6 weeks it went from a small spot of endo on my tube to completely covering the ovary and tube). with the list of things he wanted me to do, on the top was to start taking prenatals...

MamaSoleil
11-27-2002, 10:39 AM
I see...I was just wondering about that!!!

birdwomyn
11-27-2002, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by branwyn
my obgyn said i should start taking them. i just had 2 surgeries (1 in aug and 1 in oct) for endo, had to have 1 ovary and tube removed. when we went back for our post op he gave us the choice of taking some medicine that makes one go into menopause (temporarily) or to start trying right away (bc within 6 weeks it went from a small spot of endo on my tube to completely covering the ovary and tube). with the list of things he wanted me to do, on the top was to start taking prenatals...


I did the 6 month menopause medicine (Lupron) over the winter this past winter (Dec - May), and now I am ttc -- my endo doesn't sound quite as fast moving as yours. My doctor didn't want me to ttc right away because I also had a septum removed and he wanted my uterus to have a "good long rest". There was something else with my PCOS that made him want my ovaries to rest, too anyway....

For what it is worth, if it comes down to it, the 6 month Lupron seems to have really helped me, and I didn't have any of the terrible side effects that are common, in fact, I felt BETTER than I had in a long time while I was on Lupron. Hoping pregnancy helps even more than Lupron did!

Good luck ttc.....

kathybird

karenpl
11-27-2002, 04:47 PM
Mamasoleil, I am taking prenatals too, figuring extra vitamins will help preventing any deficiency I might have gotten over the years. I used to think that I have a pretty good diet, so didn't need any vitamins. But after reading more (particularly 'Empty Harvest') and talking to people, I changed my mind on that one and use the prenatals now.

Aurora! So sorry that she found you :-( Always a bummer!

Kelly, I had a BFN with my first dd at 10dpo, and then a BFP at 13dpo and she was born 9 months later. So don't give up hope yet! Actually it is good to know that your trigger shot hormones are out of your system, so you can trust the BFP you will hopefully get!

I am either 12dpo (most likely), 4dpo (less likely, but not impossible) or just anovulatory (maybe???) My chart is at http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/13f56/ Today's temp is high, but I have a cold, so suspect it is just reflecting the cold, nothing more fun. Very confusing! At least I have a game plan for the next cycle (lots of testing, including HSG), so won't be upset as usual when AF shows up.

Karen

Aurora
11-27-2002, 08:29 PM
Karen-Thanks. Buckets of baby dust to you! :baby :love

karenpl
11-28-2002, 12:09 AM
OMG OMG OMG!
I guess I was 12dpo after all.
I couldn't resist taking a test.
With afternoon urine.
It gave me a line!!! (first response). Within the time limit. Visible to the naked eye!!! (as opposed to having to tilt it just so or having to take it outside in the sun LOL)

Now what?

I have a hard time believing that this will last, but still at the same time, I am full of hope. This is pregnancy #6 for this year... At least I have a game plan for if it doesn't work out.

Karen, in shock

simonee
11-28-2002, 12:36 AM
WHOOOOHOOOOOO!!!!!

I feel honored to be the first to congratulate you ! This must be THE one! This baby wants to be with you so much, but s/he just wanted to make sure to be born a leo :) Going for drama from the start! :D

Sending you lots of sticky vibes.... thinking sticky thoughts for you... :thumb

branwyn
11-28-2002, 09:52 AM
karenpl:
i am so happy for you!!
trying to resist going to the drug store and getting a test myself....

branwyn
11-28-2002, 03:36 PM
oh well
AF came this afternoon (a week early)
oh well
maybe next month!

birdwomyn
11-28-2002, 10:19 PM
Yippeee!!!! (Doing a happy dance for Karen....)

Here's hoping we'll hear back from lots more folks soon with good news!!!! :D

I just came to check in and say how nuts I am going . I am 8dpo and my DP wants me to wait until 14dpo and test with her present.... I am going to have a hard time keeping that promise.... partly just because I want to know sooner (and test sooner) and partly because we plan to test at the clinic where I work (Planned Parenthood) and I am not so sure I want to have the whole clinic staff be there if I have to deal with a negative.....
sigh.... I need to talk to my DP to rethink this plan.... The biggest bonus of testing at work is it is free.

My doctor told me to wait 12 dpo for a reliable blood test and 14 dpo for a reliable urine test (feeling really whiney) :confused: how come everyone else gets to test sooner????? I had a trigger shot and am taking progesterone.... is that it or is he just trying to be conservative and torture me?

sigh....

My DP's niece is here for part of the day and we just found out that her 16 year old step-sister is pregnant "Ooops"


GRRRRRRR ..... she is TOTALLY unprepared and uninterested in parenthood, but "the thing to do" is keep the baby....

:angry

Am I just evil to be so angry at how unfair it is????

Sorry to be a downer.....

Sending Karen some progestrone staying power powder.....

kathybird

MamaSoleil
11-29-2002, 09:13 AM
Oh Karen, I'm so happy...I'll be meditating for you for the next three months, until you enter that 'safe' zone...

I'm so happy for you...now, can you come rub against me???? Please????

:banana :baby :banana

kelly
11-29-2002, 08:36 PM
Karen - Congratulations! I am wishing much stickiness for you!!

I, on the other hand, and horribly disappointed to report that I think AF is on her way. I started spotting today, and am now having cramps. :crying :crying This is becoming so extremely difficult for me! This will be my 9th failed IUI!! What is wrong with me?! Do I have horrible karma? Is there some greater power that thinks I should never be a mother? I am stretched to my physical, emotional, and financial limits to achieve motherhood - I have never wanted anything more in my 33 years! This is so unfair! Sorry - I am really, really in the dumps right now.

I hope all of you are faring better - I noticed that AF found a couple of other people, too. I feel bad that they aren't pg this time around, either. Best wishes to the rest of you still waiting. I don't know how much longer I can put myself through this.

Kelly

birdwomyn
11-30-2002, 12:54 AM
Kelly,

I am really sorry to hear your news.

I don't know what to say, and I am sure that there is not much I could say that could be remotely helpful...... but I just wanted you to know how grieved I am for you.

:scratch

I can feel myself wanting to go into problem solving mode to brainstorm ideas to encourage you and keep you going.... if that would be at all helpful, I volunteer.....

But I also know that sometimes it is just as important to be present to the sadness and to the pain....

I wish for you the company of whatever/whoever comforts and nurtures you....

I will be thinking of you.

kathybird

PumpkinSeeds
11-30-2002, 02:20 AM
I haven't read all the previous posts, sorry. That's so selfish of me.

:bawl


But can I just say that

I hate all this waiting! I think about it 24/7.

birdwomyn
11-30-2002, 06:51 AM
It's 6:40 am here, 10 dpo and my DP was up all night reading pretty much this whole board..... she found it helpful and was glad to see how supportive this place is....

We've been talking over the last couple days to try and figure out when I could test and have us both be there without it being a major drama (by testing at my work) -- we had a free ept here from a box of opt's I bought over the course of ttc..... so we just tested.

It was a BFN. :(

We know it is still a little early, but we also know that we only have a 20% chance of a +, so we are working on wrapping our minds around this result .....

We'll test again on Wednesday at 14 dpo as a confirmatory test before I go off the progestrone suppositories..... (or maybe with a blood test on Monday so we can send the RE the official lab results).

:(

This sucks.

good luck to the rest of you all in the 2ww.

kathybird

RasJane
11-30-2002, 08:49 AM
Argghhhhhh!!!!
The old red hag is back. I am so sorry for the rest of you in crampville with me.
But Karen! Whooo HOOO. HOOORRAAY. I am so thrilled for you. I hope this one is THE one.
Maybe I'll head off to do some more shopping. Retail therapy y'know?
Love to all and may the christmas spirit bring us better luck next cycle.

Annais
11-30-2002, 09:23 AM
Sorry about AF, branwyn, kelly, RasJane...that sucks :(
birdwomyn - keep your hopes up! Good luck on Wednesday. :)
Karen - Congratulations!!! :D

I'm still waiting....I have about a week to go.
I agree with you PumpkinSeed, I try really hard not to think about it to much, but heck, it's always there.
Bye, ladies; have a good weekend.

tnrsmom
11-30-2002, 09:58 AM
I have officially entered the 2ww. I put it off as long as possible. I am not sure if I am 2dpo or 7dpo. Just waiting now.

Eman'smom
11-30-2002, 08:58 PM
Congrats Karen, :)

I'm at day ten and negative, I'm trying to be positive, but it's hard, do I just feel fat and tired or is it something more. I'm going to try to hold off a few days but no promises.

Tuli
11-30-2002, 09:17 PM
I'm so sorry AF found you, branwyn, kelly, and RasJane. I'm either 6dpo or 4 dpo, so I won't be testing before a week from Monday. Ugh, I'm really starting to hate this!:rolleyes:

MamaSoleil
12-01-2002, 03:22 PM
So sorry to those that AF found, extra little hug for you Kelly :hug....it doesn't get easier...I wish I had the right words for you...but I don't....
My aunts and uncles were in town this weekend, and I found myself crying because I want another baby so much, and yadda yadda...they all hugged me, and said kind words.....I just can't believe I lost it like that!!!!

Pumpkinseed, I this is my last ww...AF is due on Thursday the 5th...so only 5 days left.....

Peace,

mamasoleil

Sahara
12-01-2002, 04:26 PM
Ho hum. Just got back from our Thanksgiving holiday, had all the pregnancy symptoms and was planning to test T-giving morning, but AF showed up the day before the big feast. Put a damper on our holiday. I've been doing everything so right. Just having such short LP's, I guess it's the nursing. Of course, our close friends called to tell us they are expecting a baby, their third. I feel lucky to have one beautiful boy, but want another baby so much.
On a lighter note, congratulations Karen!!!!


I will check in with everyone more personally later, I just wanted to come and boo hoo a little.

Steph

PumpkinSeeds
12-01-2002, 05:06 PM
:hug

Originally posted by mamasoleil

Pumpkinseed, I this is my last ww...AF is due on Thursday the 5th...so only 5 days left.....

Peace,

mamasoleil



and :grouphug to everyone else. My AF is due dec 9th so we will see....

MamaSoleil
12-01-2002, 09:00 PM
(((((Steph))))) :hug :hug :hug

Pumpkinseed, thanks sister. I checked my book, and of course I was right on, today is cd24, and although I"ve gone 33 days, more often than not, it's 28 day cycle...so...got my fingers crossed, begging the universe to let the union begin....

:hug to you to!!!

Arduinna~are you in the 2ww yet????

butterflyma
12-01-2002, 11:20 PM
I think that I am officially a 2wwer. This feels like the millionth and two 2ww!! Maybe that's a lucky number.... :) My dh had a *brilliant* plan this month that we bd every day after af left.:eek until she comes again:eek I'm a little po'd that he doesn't give any credit to what I have learned about ttc. But on the other hand, I know that we will not miss the day. I am anxiously awaiting the end of this 2ww though.
Wouldn't it be great to start the new year off knowing that you are bringing a new life into it? My fingers are crossed for us all!

On another note: Congratulations Karen!!!! I echo the sentiment of hoping this is a sticky pg!:love

Kelly :grouphug I'm sorry that af found you again. :( I hope that 10 will be the lucky number for you.

MamaSoleil
12-01-2002, 11:25 PM
Welcome butterfly! :love

Hope these 2weeks go by quickly for you, *try* not to obsess too much:rolleyes: :p ;) :D :o :love

PumpkinSeeds
12-01-2002, 11:28 PM
OMG you guys are troopers! Good luck, when do you expect NOT to see AF?




Originally posted by butterflymaiden
we bd every day after af left.:eek until she comes again:eek

butterflyma
12-01-2002, 11:37 PM
I think actually I'm a trooper, dh is quite happy! :rolleyes:
My no af day is 12/15 or there abouts- and I'm not sure that I'll be able to follow his plan for the whole time. I'm hoping to have clear signs of pg really soon so I can stop this madness. But that would probly be at least a week from now sooo... onward soldiers.

Where are you at in your 2ww? Any good obsessing yet? :)

PumpkinSeeds
12-01-2002, 11:58 PM
8 days left for me, 5 days left for MamaSoleil and Arduinna is on a 40 day cycle (have you O'd yet Arduinna?)


We should start a december 2ww...

PumpkinSeeds
12-02-2002, 12:00 AM
Ok Butterfly (or shasha as my ds says), please start a december 2ww since you are right in the middle of the month...

Luckymomma
12-02-2002, 10:45 AM
Hey butterflymaiden, I like what you said about your husband deciding to do it every day. What is it with men? Why don't they realize we have a pretty good grasp of what's going on? It's pretty hard not to know what ewcm if you got it.

My husband insisted we buy a clearplan fertility monitor. Those little suckers are expensive! And it really burned me that he didn't believe me. I knew when I was ovulating for crying out loud.

But then I realized(takes me a while) that he just needed to feel some sort of control over the situation. It took me about 8 months to realize that he grieved every month we didn't concieve. It wasn't just my loss. I was too egocentric, but that's another story.

Anyway, I did want to give the monitor a tiny plug. It doesn't really tell you anything you don't already know, but for some reason it seemed to take the burden off. Instead of thinking "I think I ovulated today", the monitor says Peak, and you know you will bd that day, and you will the next day, and then it's over. It took some of the unpleasant obsession away. And when you've been trying for a long time, any break from the obsession is a good thing.

It is most assuredly coincidence, but I did concieve my 2cnd cycle with the monitor. So I will now happily sell it on ebay. I really shouldn't post. Once I get started, I can't shut UP!!!:D

EnviroBecca
12-02-2002, 11:31 AM
Well, I'm on CD28...but I don't know how many DPO for sure, despite having the Ovulens. I had trouble getting enough saliva some days, and even when I did I never saw the whole lens fill w/ferns as shown in the brochure; I had patches of ferns and scattered individual ferns surrounded by empty space. :scratch At least there were SOME ferns, and I eventually managed to recognize them after a couple days of "Why does this look so squirmy?" :) The some-ferning lasted all last week. I plan to test on CD35.

:grouphug to all who are out of the 2WW this month!

MamaSoleil
12-02-2002, 12:25 PM
Stay strong EnviroBecca!!! I'm trying so hard not to test, I also do not know how many dpo I am, two possibilities are the 22 and 24 of november...

:baby ********************************************dust

Tuli
12-02-2002, 04:22 PM
Hi Mamsoleil and Envirobecca! Here we are again. Fertility Friend says that ferning can last for several days, so i think the crucial thing ios the first ferning, and then the "peak" ferning-the little patches of ferning after the peak are no big deal. What a relief! So, witgh that information, I think I'm 8dpo. Not feeling anyhting here, just crampy like I always am this time of month.
I am not testing until Sunday!!! (If I can hold out that long). :rolleyes:

-Tuli

kelly
12-02-2002, 04:29 PM
:thumb Good luck to everyone still in the 2ww!

Kelly

karenpl
12-02-2002, 04:40 PM
{{{{ KELLY }}}} My heart bleeds for you, what a disappointment :-(

Envirobecca, this was my first cycle wiht the ovulens too and I found it pretty confusing, mine never looked exactly like the pictures either. But I also got out my kiddo microscope, from when I was a kid and used that to confirm. The microscope gave beautiful ferning when the ovulens still looked like 'hmmmm, is that ferning? or is it not? It doesn't look like pics. But maybe it could be anyway. WAAAH!' LOL I had partial ferning before and after full ferning, check my chart if you want to know how many days.

17dpo now and still think my chart is totally whacky! The only way I could convince fertilityfriend that I indeed ovulated on day 17, was by overruling it LOL http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/13f56/

I have been obsessed with pregnancy tests, and they still give my positives! Totally unheard off, I would get real faint lines and then the lines would be getting even fainter or disappear and I would miscarry. Dare I hope? I put the tests on line for whomever wants to obsess with me http://www.geocities.com/~plomp/PgTestObsessor.html . I just got a new computer and haven't got my graphics software installed yet (mostly because it is a bit lost LOL), so I didn't shrink the pic as I usually would have, sorry about that. But OTOH, easier to see the different lines this way.

I was supposed to go in for day 3 bloodwork today, because this new cycle was supposed to be a testing cycle. I tried calling them, but they were in a meeting, so I went in anyway and was able to change it to a quantitative hcg instead! Will hear nrs tomorrow afternoon, please send high high high number vibes!

Patience and BFP vibes to all still in the 2ww!

Karen, 4w3d and very very hopeful!

MamaSoleil
12-02-2002, 05:34 PM
Yay Karen...good sign...
now
for
my
news


**********************************
I just took an HPT, even though I'm not due until Thurs with AF at the earliest...but my boobs are HUGE...well...
I got the faintest line that you can barely see...but after taking so many...I KNOW IT"S ++++++++
:banana
I will take another in 2 days...and it should be darker then!!!
YAY YAY YAY YAY

SpringRain
12-02-2002, 05:49 PM
:jaw mamasoleil

:love :love Congratulations!
:thumb Finally after all your waiting, A BIG FAT POSITIVE!!! :thumb
Maybe this is a Lucky 2ww, I can't wait to join it. I should O on Friday and we are bd like crazy! Send some of your potent baby dust our way. ;)

Luckymomma
12-02-2002, 07:13 PM
That is sooo great!!!!:bouncy

I just knew there was a reason I can't stop reading the ttc boards. I swear I've been waiting for you. I think it's because our kids are close to the same age. My son was born Oct 7,1999.

Congratulations!!! It couldn't happen to a nicer person!!

Yay mamasoleil!!!:)

MamaSoleil
12-02-2002, 07:39 PM
Thank you so much Luckymama!!!:love

birdwomyn
12-02-2002, 08:07 PM
OMG!!!! OMG!!!! OMG!!!!!!!!:) :thumb :thumb :thumb :love :love :love :jaw :jaw :jaw :hippie :hippie :hippie :Peace :Peace :flower :flower :flower :flower :huh :huh :huh :jammin :jammin :Kiss :Kiss :Kiss :W :eyes :eyes :eyes :balloons :balloons :2 :balloons :2 :throb :throb :raz :nod :nod :nod :grouphug :hug :heartbeat :toothy :toothy :toothy

birdwomyn
12-02-2002, 08:10 PM
I have had three positive tests today, two at work (different brands because I didn't believe it) and one at home, the same brand that was negative on Saturday!!!!!

I can't believe it!!!!

April and I are almost afraid to breathe......

I called the doctor and he cautioned that urine tests are not really reliable for me until Wednesday because of the fertility drugs I took, so we also have run a quantitative hcg blood test and hope to get the results tomorrow...

OMG!
OMG!
OMG!

birdwomyn
12-02-2002, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by mamasoleil
Yay Karen...good sign...
now
for
my
news


**********************************
I just took an HPT, even though I'm not due until Thurs with AF at the earliest...but my boobs are HUGE...well...
I got the faintest line that you can barely see...but after taking so many...I KNOW IT"S ++++++++
:banana
I will take another in 2 days...and it should be darker then!!!
YAY YAY YAY YAY



CONGRATULATIONS mamasoleil!!!!!!!!!!!

Good luck everyone.....



I am sorry you all, my head is spinning a little.....
We've had three years of nothing and this feels amazing....

April has been taking pictures of all three results and is now getting "artsy" on the computer with them.....

I can't image having any ability to focus until after we get the blood test results .....

kathybird

Luckymomma
12-02-2002, 08:26 PM
Can't you just feel it??? There's a change in the air. The good baby vibes are bouncing around like a crazy pinball machine. If they don't knock you on your butt this time, don't worry, there's plenty of quarters left!!!

Good luck birdwomyn!!! After so many negatives, a positive is surreal. Look at it 100 times a day if you have to, just to get you through until the blood test. :)

karenpl
12-02-2002, 09:10 PM
BIRDWOMYN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What a wonderful news!!! Let us know as soon as you know the hcg numbers!

* * * C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S ! ! ! * * *

Karen

PumpkinSeeds
12-02-2002, 10:28 PM
Birdwomyn and MamaSoleil


C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S ! ! ! ! !

MamaSoleil
12-02-2002, 10:36 PM
Sweet Birdwomyn~:baby :baby

I know what you mean about the head spinning...it is a little hard to digest eh?????

:love :heartbeat

Mamasoleil


LuckyMama, I feel the vibes...who's next?????

AdinaL
12-02-2002, 11:06 PM
Wow there is so much baby dust in the air here I am stunned!!!!
Congrats to all of you who got the big fat ++++++++++++++!!!!

{{{{Kelly}}}} I feel for you babe. I am heading into cycle 8 or 9 myself. It is really tough. It will happen...I am positive!

As for me - i am out. af showed up on Friday morning. I made it through Thanksgiving - and thought I was okay - but alas...she was waiting to surprise me. And we spent all day Friday at the zoo with my best friend and her 20 month old. I love them both - but boy was that a tough day. My dh was filming the baby and the zoo for my friend so that she had footage for her mom's xmas present. So he had the diaper bag and looked like dad. And then there was me - feeling like I am broken, like I am completely inadequate, and like it is never going to happen. I spent most of Friday near tears or crying. I am still weepy whenever I think about it. I really had my hopes up this cycle....

Ah well...on to next month.
Good luck to those of you left!!!:baby keep chanting!!!:baby

Sahara
12-03-2002, 05:43 AM
MAMASOLEIL, KAREN, KATHY!!!!!

:bgbounce :bgbounce :bgbounce
:banana :banana :banana :banana
:balloons :balloons :balloons

Adina, I didn't handle AF very well this Thanksgiving, either. It's hard to want something so much and have no understandable reason why it's not happening. Ahh, well, hopefully the fertility around here will rub off on us!

MamaSoleil
12-03-2002, 07:36 AM
Adina~I just counted, and this would have been my 15th cycle....It will happen, it will, it will.....

Like I told the others, I will continue to medidate to the universe for your little one to hurry up!!!!

Mamasoleil :heartbeat

Annais
12-03-2002, 09:01 AM
Congratulations mamasoleil and birdwomyn and karen!!! That is great news!

((((AdinaL))))


Well, I am cd24, af is due friday, and I am really fighting the temptation to go and buy a hpt. Help me!

Aurora
12-03-2002, 10:39 AM
WOOHOO!!! Congratulations mamasoleil and kathy!!!!:love

:hug Adina :hug

RasJane
12-03-2002, 11:00 AM
HOOORAY!
:thumb
I am so excited for you, birdwomyn, Mamsoleil!!!
I so hope these are the sticky ones for you. Here's to the best August ever!
Mamsoleil, that helps knowing that you made it nearly 15 cycles. This was 13 for me and I am really starting to wonder. You know how that feels.
Annais, you can make it. Hold on, use some chocolate or whatever it takes;)

Tuli
12-03-2002, 02:13 PM
OMG mamasoleil and birdwomyn and karen!!!!

:bouncy :banana :bouncy :banana :bouncy :banana :bouncy :banana


That is such great news!!! I am sooo happy for all of you. mamsoleil-you have bee right there with my cycles for a few months now-I can feel your babydust! I am 9dpo and feeling pretty good. Dare I hope this time?
:jaw
Have you all told your dh's/dp's? What did they say???

-Tuli

kelly
12-03-2002, 04:16 PM
CONGRATS to all of you lucky ++++++++++++!!!

Adina and Sahara - I'm with you on the disappointing Thanksgiving AF. I am still on the verge of tears now on CD4. I really thought I would be pg last cycle. Keep your chin up - I am going to see my RE next week for some educated thoughts on why I am not getting pg. Hoping for some good news. Let's focus on graduating from here in December! :thumb

Kelly

AdinaL
12-03-2002, 08:30 PM
I am already chanting...
I will get pg
I will get pg
I will get pg
I will get pg
I will get pg
I will get pg

:baby :baby :baby :baby :baby :baby :baby :baby
:D