Diapering Show and Tell: Can we re-visit what is allowed in this forum?

[vkberes]

After seeing the thread moved about the Dunk n Fluff set I am utterly confused about what is OK here. In the clothing sticky above it says it is OK to talk about clothing if it relates to how it fits over a diaper, etc. Wool pants are a diaper cover so why is that not OK to share here?

I guess I could have PM'ed a mod but I know I am not the only one confused. It has been discussed time and time again and yet there is so much gray area. As many have voiced this has led to this board becoming dead. Have the mods took into consideration putting things back to how they once were? I am sure someone must have read the most recent thread about this.

I am really frustrated and come here less and less. It just sucks because I think of MDC as my home and I don't even feel welcome anymore with the new shift.

[Fluffhead]

=vkberes I am utterly confused about what is OK here.
As many have voiced this has led to this board becoming dead. Have the mods took into consideration putting things back to how they once were?
I am really frustrated and come here less and less.

:yeah:

I have out of town guests for ds's birthday, so I barely have time to even post but I wanted to reiterate this. It can go undiscussed and the powers that be (not the mods bc I don't think it is their call) can silently read our pleadings, but eventually enough folks are going to long for the community we once shared, and someone is going to start a new forum somewhere that will really drive traffic off this board. We would hate to say 'I told ya so'......

[PatchyMama]

As many have voiced this has led to this board becoming dead. Have the mods took into consideration putting things back to how they once were? I am sure someone must have read the most recent thread about this.

I am really frustrated and come here less and less. It just sucks because I think of MDC as my home and I don't even feel welcome anymore with the new shift.

ditto... i rarely check in more than once a day now :(

[zexplorers]

I am really frustrated and come here less and less. It just sucks because I think of MDC as my home and I don't even feel welcome anymore with the new shift.

double ditto... and I'm letting my paid subscriptions lapse - why pay when I don't fell comfortable here anymore.....

[organicmommy]

I agree that its hard to know what is ok to post what is not ok to post so generally I just lurke a lot so that I don't have my threads pulled because I hate it when it happens.

[binxsmom]

ditto... i rarely check in more than once a day now :(

if that much. i'm sad. :(

[mals*nutrition]

I'm confused too. I PM'd the mod who moved it. Maybe she didn't realize they are covers as well as clothing?

[~Megan~]

The Show and Tell forum is for showing pictures of newly aquired items or your kids in their diapers. Its also for the discussion of hyena items or stalking.

The discussion of wool pants in relation to their use for diapering is most definitely allowed. Asking where to find clothes that fit well over diapers is appropriate.
Discussing none cloth diapering advocacy wear is not. Discussing soft soled shoes is not. And so forth...

Does that clarify things any?

[mals*nutrition]

so according to that description the Dunk-n-Fluff thread shouldn't have been moved, right?

[Moon Faerie]

so according to that description the Dunk-n-Fluff thread shouldn't have been moved, right?
:yeah: I'm confused as to why the Dunk n Fluff thread was moved too.

[mgmsmommy]

Me too, I thought they were just like longies, just out of fabric, not knit wool. So if longies are allowed...

[Arora The Explorer]

Hand knit wool pants ARE allowed, but hand sewn wool pants ARE NOT allowed?

To post pictures of a Stacinator Deluxe IS NOT allowed.

To post pictures of a Stacinator Deluxe IS allowed if I specifically state that it's for use with CDs.

To post pictures of a wool pair of pants NOT ok.

To post pictures of wool pants IS permitted if I specifically state that it's for use with CDs.

To discuss soft soled shoes IS NOT permitted here.

To discuss soft soled shoes with a cloth diapered bear on the toes IS permitted here.

To discuss Family Bed advocacy wear IS NOT permitted.

To discuss Cloth Diapering advocacy wear IS permitted.

Can we say... Confusing!?!?

[WickidaWitch]

:lurk:

[PatchyMama]

:bawl i want the diapering forum back :(

[stacey0402]

yep, this place is d.e.a.d. I wish things would just go back to the way they were. :(

[nohomama]

I had an interchange with mamao'two a few weeks ago when she moved my Dunk n Fluff thread. For those who care to look, it was this (http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=349956) one. I pointed out then that Tami/Dunk n Fluff was a WAHM who made embellished prefolds, that her pants were intended for use with CD, that I was intending to use the pants that I ordered over CDs, as well as a number of other arguments as to why my post was appropriate for the Diapering/Show & Tell forums, all of which seemed to fall on deaf ears. I was told then that clothing threads have always been moved by the moderators, something which is simply untrue. When I pointed that out the response I got back was that moderators aren't perfect and they sometimes miss threads, blah, blah, blah. Does anyone else remember back in the days of yore when Angelica/Butterflymom posted pictures of all her Naturkins sets??? That was only one of many that was never moved. Whatever.

This place has become so sad. I'm not holding my breath that the forum will be put back as it was. It's a pity. MDC and the Diapering forum moderators have alienated a huge number of CDing devotees and advocates. It's their loss.

[Arora The Explorer]

I think it's interesting that we have a new sticky how clothing threads are not allowed and yet there is another sticky about fleece and wool pants.
http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=350478
http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=349876

On what planet does this make sense? Give us our CD friendly clothing threads back, please.

I'm not faulting the mods, they're volunteers trying to make things simple easy and fun for everyone. Something has to be done though. Someone in charge must hear that so many people are disatisfied. Afterall, I've come out of lurkdom to post!

[mom2orionplus1]

It is definitely not the same around here. I used to love this board, now I barely check in or post. I wish things were back to the way they used to be. :(

[Leilalu]

wow. talk about confusing. I mean, what if a stacinator is hyena to soemone who cant really afford as fussybutt?And they got it embroidered or someething and want to show it off?And what if I get LEA jammies and rave about how they fit over a fuzzibunz at night? These aren't my issues, but just throwing it out there. I don't think this thread is going anywhere, and if anything, it is causing a huge split.

[QueenSheba'sMom]

i didn't realize how much was being moved. that sucks. especially wool pants, which have rocked my diapering world.

[Moon Faerie]

I don't think this thread is going anywhere, and if anything, it is causing a huge split.

That's what I'm afraid of. The other board I post at has cleared out too. If everyone leaves, can someone PM me, and let me know where you're going? :innocent I miss the fun fluff talk. I got my BB cutsom today, and there's no one around to share my excitement with. I'm just not feeling the MDC love these days. :(

I guess when my Sissy Crabapple pants get here, you can all come see them in Life with a babe. *sigh*

[Leilalu]

That's what I'm afraid of. The other board I post at has cleared out too. If everyone leaves, can someone PM me, and let me know where you're going? :innocent I miss the fun fluff talk. I got my BB cutsom today, and there's no one around to share my excitement with. I'm just not feeling the MDC love these days. :(

I guess when my Sissy Crabapple pants get here, you can all come see them in Life with a babe. *sigh*
Yep. I don't post much as it is.... but even less lately. I rarely go to the normal diapering forum either becuse I am not a newbie and have no real questions. I just wnt to talk fluff sometimes. Maybe this forum should be for talking about diapering clothes in general. Everything form pants, to pants that fit great over cloth diapers, to wahms that make pants and tops as well .....and so on. I mean, can we no longer how off sets? Ay.....

[nohomama]

I'm not faulting the mods, they're volunteers trying to make things simple easy and fun for everyone.

I'm not saying that the moderators don't have a hard job or that they don't generously give their time to this community. They do! And I recognize that. I just don't understand who else I'm supposed to fault for the way the Diapering forum was split and for how that split was implemented. It's certainly true that they don't own this board but they are the people who have been entrusted with it's day to day running. So yes, I do fault the mods for the current state of the board, the confusion and lack of interest. I don't dislike the mods but I do disagree with them sometimes and this is one of those times. I think it's possible to applaud the moderators for the time consuming and often thankless work they do as well as question their choices and hold them responsible for the mistakes they make.

[ShadowMom]

Perhaps this whole thing is developing just as the board owners would like. Lots didn't like the "show off" pictures and talk about stocking and such... perhaps relegating it to a subforum which obviously isn't going to get a lot of activity was easier than pissing everyone off by banning such talk/threads.

We have to remember that this board is a business and Mothering magazine is a business. The owners have a very specific vision of how they would like things to look and what they want to be said and go on here. And, they own the place, so that's their right. But I think we need to keep that in mind instead of expecting that our wishes are the top priority.

[mals*nutrition]

The mod I pm'd said the DnF thread is being moved back here so maybe this thread hasn't fallen on deaf ears. Hopefully the mods will begin to really look at how these changes are affecting the members and make the appropriate changes. :)

[vkberes]

That's good. I know the mods are mamas like us and they don't have infinite time to reply but I think it would be nice to have a better open door of communication. When they feel they need to exercise their rights they do so quickly but I feel like often times group discussions relating to the board fall on deaf ears with not even a courteous reply.

[nohomama]

We have to remember that this board is a business and Mothering magazine is a business. The owners have a very specific vision of how they would like things to look and what they want to be said and go on here. And, they own the place, so that's their right. But I think we need to keep that in mind instead of expecting that our wishes are the top priority.

I can't speak for others, but I don't expect my needs and wishes take top priority in this community. I also understand that it's a business with a particular vision and goals that hosts this community and that they get to set the ground rules. Maybe it is part of Mothering's agenda to relegate us evil consumerist mamas to our own little subforum. As I said before, it's their loss.

[Mama Bear]

I was wondering why its been so dead lately...now I know....how sad....

[ChichosMama]

Perhaps this whole thing is developing just as the board owners would like. Lots didn't like the "show off" pictures and talk about stocking and such... perhaps relegating it to a subforum which obviously isn't going to get a lot of activity was easier than pissing everyone off by banning such talk/threads.

We have to remember that this board is a business and Mothering magazine is a business. The owners have a very specific vision of how they would like things to look and what they want to be said and go on here. And, they own the place, so that's their right. But I think we need to keep that in mind instead of expecting that our wishes are the top priority.

Yes, but what goo dis owning a place where no one comes? It would be a truly sad thing to think that someone that wants to have a succesful business has to have something fit THEIR vision. To have a succesful anything YOU HAVE TO GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT. Seriously thats so basic.

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[USAmma]

That's good. I know the mods are mamas like us and they don't have infinite time to reply but I think it would be nice to have a better open door of communication. When they feel they need to exercise their rights they do so quickly but I feel like often times group discussions relating to the board fall on deaf ears with not even a courteous reply.

:) Thank you. Your feelings do not fall on deaf ears. We are users of MDC, too and some of the mods are WAHM's. Most of the time I personally respond better to a PM than an APB on a thread. If I am unsure about a request I will ask Cynthia Mosher or another mod about it. Each request is taken very seriously and rules are reviewed if necessary. If there is a misunderstanding about a thread or a user's intentions we are receptive to clearing it up ASAP. Please do feel free to PM us, okay?

BTW we did put the thread in question back. There was a misunderstanding that was cleared up by a PM from one of the users. So sorry for the misunderstanding.

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I am moving this thread to Questions and Suggestions, as it does not belong in this forum with the direction that it's currently taking.

[PatchyMama]

I hope the split can be reconsidered. I just went back through the first 4 pages of the original thread in Q&S and out of everyone who wanted the forum split... none of them have actually posted in the diapering forum at all at least since the spilt ( i didnt go back to see where they posted before). It just really sucks that the diapering forum has lost so many good mamas and its dead now. But I guess if that was the purpose of splitting the forum.. congrats job well done.

[Just*Lindsay]

OMG, I am MORE and MORE annoyed by this!

[Mama K]

Perhaps MDC wants to phase out the cloth diapering forum entirely? You know, prefolds can be talked about in natural living or life with a babe. Who needs all that evil consumerism, anyway... No diapering forum, then get rid of all those pesky WAHMs by charging an arm and a leg for them to advertise here...

[Cynthia Mosher]

I'm so sorry for not responding to this thread when it was in Diapering. Such board administration affairs are best posted to this forum though because I am the moderator for Q & A and will surely see it and can respond as soon as I approve the thread (as long as I don't have a blowup of a day and get sidetracked with other stuff :shy).

I do understand and appreciate that some are not happy with the change and prefer the old setup. And I do see that the posts are spread a bit thinner. But I would like to give it some time and see how things go. It's only been about a month since the reorganization and we do have some other things in mind so please help us out here a bit. Please give it a chance in spite of your preference for the old setup.

I'm not sure what the issue is with the moving of threads. I'll have to review that with the moderators and see what we can do to clarify for everyone, including ourselves, to avoid unnecessary moving of threads, make things easier, and help everyone feel more comfortable as best we can.

Do any of you have any suggestions about what goes where under the new setup? Are there things being moved that you think should be left where they were? Examples?

I know the Diapering board is cyberhome to lots of mamas and change can be so uncomfortable and hard to get used to. We appreciate your patience and apologize for any frustration you feel. :throb

[meritodd1221]

okay -- this isn't a suggestion, but I have to say that one of the reasons I don't post on mothering as often as I used to is because I HATE HATE HATE seeing threads moved. I DON'T like the new set-up. I find it terribly confusing, as apparently a lot of other mama's do, too -- and I think the number of moved threads lately has proved that point. If I posted a question and my thread was moved, I'd feel like my face had been slapped or I had been sent to the corner or something. Just my personal feelings. Moving threads has the effect of making a person feel "scolded" or like they've done something wrong. I don't think its wrong to ask questions! And I think that the current set-up has made it more confusing -- when i have a question, I just want to ask it -- I don't want to sit for five minutes and figure out WHERE to post the question so that it won't be moved.

Maybe with time things will get better... but my honest feeling is that with time, people will just get fed up with trying to figure it out and go elsewhere. That's basically what I've done.

[vkberes]

Cynthia, can you please share with us what this vision is? I think what is really hurting this community is that changes are happening because of this vision that no one has cared to share with the community. We are expected to keep going along in hopes of some greater good and in the mean time MDC continues to lose valuable members. This problem has occurred beyond just the diapering forums so what gives?

[TRIBE]

We have to remember that this board is a business and Mothering magazine is a business. The owners have a very specific vision of how they would like things to look and what they want to be said and go on here. And, they own the place, so that's their right. But I think we need to keep that in mind instead of expecting that our wishes are the top priority.

I agree to a point. But Mothering also relies on businesses to help support this site thru their advertising. Most of the banner ads are from WAHMs and a good portion of those are diapering WAHMs.

With the current set up of the diapering board, membership there has declined, posts have greatly declined and that is effecting the WAHM businesses. The slow summer months for WAHMs usually bounces back in Aug/Sept. We are half way thru October and business has not picked back up for many of the WAHMs.

By the posts deminishing, WAHM businesses suffering, that will greatly effect the advertising. If WAHMs arent making any money then they can't afford the high cost of running an ad in Mothering. This in turn will effect Mothering.

Perhaps Mothering does have a grand vision in mind. But as a business shouldn't they share that vision with their "customers"? There is so much discontent here right now that it would be in their best interest to share their plans and vision so that those who are upset can understand what and why these things are happening.

:blah Just my thoughts.

[Cynthia Mosher]

There is no vision beyond what we discussed in the threads regarding the changes awhile back when it was up for discussion. Forgive me, I don't have links to offer so that you can review those discussions. But everything is pretty much in there, from me, from the moderators, and from the community. We don't have any underlying agenda or vision beyond what is posted there. The reorganization really has nothing to do with business or revenue That was not a impetus at all in making the changes.

This time of year is usually a bit slower for MDC. We see it every year at this same time. So I can't say that any decline that may be present is due to the change in the setup. Change often does cause a hesitation or a pause in activity as people are a bit taken aback and it takes some time to get used to things. We expect it and have seen it before in other changes we've made so it is normal to some extent.

I do think we need to give it all a fair chance and that will take some time. We tend to make changes and give it at least a three to six month effort before we review things. In the meantime we will monitor activity and see how things are going. Diapering is one of our most popular places at MDC so we certainly don't want to see the forum die out. :love

[StrawHatBrat]

guess you also have to spend a ton of money to show off your fluff.... you can't show off what you've made here. Rediculous.

Guess there's always diaperpin! :)

[vkberes]

It's only been about a month since the reorganization and we do have some other things in mind so please help us out here a bit. Please give it a chance in spite of your preference for the old setup.

bold is mine.

All I am asking for is what do you all have in mind? You mentioned in your last post that we can refer to that very long thread for answers. IIRC, that thread went back and forth on issues and many things were muddled. Forgive me if this was done but I don't recall a clear synopsis arising at the end. Surely the mods and board owners came up with a clear direction or maybe not. If not, it would be nice to know and if so, can we explicitly hear what it is? I don't think it is fair to ask us to make heads or tails of such a thread when the mods have already decided on a plan.

Sorry if I keep pushing the issue but I know for me personally, I want to make an informed decision on whether I remain here as well as advertise at MDC. As any busy parent and WAHM, I don't have the time for the realm of possibilities that may or may not happen in a few months time.

[ShabbyChic]

guess you also have to spend a ton of money to show off your fluff.... you can't show off what you've made here. Rediculous.

Guess there's always diaperpin! :)

I don't think it is at all ridiculous that this is not a place to show off personal crafts. That is not what this board is about. That is something that belongs in another forum. Perhaps, instead of making snide remarks about going elsewhere, you should suggest that there be another subforum to discuss and show off diapering items made for you by you.

[Spark]

guess you also have to spend a ton of money to show off your fluff.... you can't show off what you've made here. Rediculous.


Ok, so I'm trying to catch up on this thread... been away from the computer for a week, but I'm typically very active in the diapering forum.

This is how I see the main problem that is going on - there seems to be some division amongst diapering mamas. Some like frugal simplicity diapering others like creative craft diapering others like WAHM diapers others still like high priced WAHM diapers others like Diaper Artpieces.

Our diversity is what makes the diapering forum a beautiful fresh place to visit. However, with pointing one group of mothers to a subforum and others to an entire different board at MDC it makes the diversity (one our greatest strengths) into a huge divide.

Relegating different forums is not working. We end up with a "Hyena Club" in the Show & Tell forum. "Sewing club" happening where NO ONE sees them. "Frugal Club" in the main diapering. We're losing the diverse information and perspectives that everyone has to add. What would I suggest to change it?

I'd like to continue to see these subforums in diapering:
Diapering Archives
Diapering Activism
Diaper Making Instructions (this leaves diaper making mamas able to show off their stashes with all of us NOT just over in Crafts and things forum where few of the others go AND allows the nitty gritty of diaper making to continue)
Diapering Guidelines, Resources & FAQs
Daily Diaper-
Elimination Communication

I would like to get rid of Show and Tell and change the focus of the Diaper Making to Diaper Making Instructions. I don't want to dictate that one group is not "allowed" to play with the rest of us. I want to include as many perspectives and diverse diapering philosophies into one main diapering board.

I want to see the following remain in the main diapering forum and NOT moved away:
Wool Pants
Fleece Pants
WAHM made clothing that works with CDs
Clothing that fits over CDs
Diaper Advocacy wear
Toys or Clothing that depicts cloth diapering
Pictures of stashes
Pictures of babies wearing CDs
Pictures of mama-made diapers
Diaper inventions and accessories

Bottom line, I like our diversity and I don't want to be segregated any longer.

[Momto2boysNagirl]

I don't think it is at all ridiculous that this is not a place to show off personal crafts. That is not what this board is about. That is something that belongs in another forum. Perhaps, instead of making snide remarks about going elsewhere, you should suggest that there be another subforum to discuss and show off diapering items made for you by you.


I disagree. She was showing off part of her stash. Whether it was made by her or not shouldn't matter.

[~Megan~]

As long as I've been a moderator and as long as I've been aware its been the policy that homemade diapers are discussed in the Crafts forum. Then a Diaper Making forum was created and a redirect was placed in the Diapering forum.

I don't see this as segregation so much as organization.

I can understand that some people do not like this break up but others have asked for and now are happy with the reorganization. Perhaps they are just not as chatty abou their feelings though.

Please do continue to give us feedback about the changes.

[Cynthia Mosher]

vkberes, Peggy and I have been talking about a number of things for the board in general. It's not at all tied or related to the change in the Diapering forum. I mean forum features, things like a place to post pics, blogs, journals, a more organized trading post, a better reviews setup, a better trader ratings setup, stuff like that. Nothing really to do with the forum change.

Spark, thanks for your ideas and suggestions. We'll see what we can incorporate that would increase the usefulness and enjoyment of the forum, within the structure of our current setup. :)

[organicmommy]

I have to agree that when I started coming to the board I could come in and go to the forum that I enjoy which is diapering. I don't have a lot of time to be clicking all over the place etc. I am generally lucky have to have my hand free for more than 5 seconds at a time and it is hard to click all over. Spark had some great points and I seem to agree.
I also think that it should not matter if the diapers are made by you or someone else, they are diapers and you are showing off part of your stash. I think it should stay with diapering as I don't have time to look all over and I like to see them as well as the other wahm diapers.

Hugs
Jessica

[Cynthia Mosher]

organicmommy, I addressed the issue of stash pics of diapers made by you in the thread in Show and Tell. :thumb

[PatchyMama]

Ok, so I'm trying to catch up on this thread... been away from the computer for a week, but I'm typically very active in the diapering forum.

This is how I see the main problem that is going on - there seems to be some division amongst diapering mamas. Some like frugal simplicity diapering others like creative craft diapering others like WAHM diapers others still like high priced WAHM diapers others like Diaper Artpieces.

Our diversity is what makes the diapering forum a beautiful fresh place to visit. However, with pointing one group of mothers to a subforum and others to an entire different board at MDC it makes the diversity (one our greatest strengths) into a huge divide.

Relegating different forums is not working. We end up with a "Hyena Club" in the Show & Tell forum. "Sewing club" happening where NO ONE sees them. "Frugal Club" in the main diapering. We're losing the diverse information and perspectives that everyone has to add. What would I suggest to change it?

I'd like to continue to see these subforums in diapering:
Diapering Archives
Diapering Activism
Diaper Making Instructions (this leaves diaper making mamas able to show off their stashes with all of us NOT just over in Crafts and things forum where few of the others go AND allows the nitty gritty of diaper making to continue)
Diapering Guidelines, Resources & FAQs
Daily Diaper-
Elimination Communication

I would like to get rid of Show and Tell and change the focus of the Diaper Making to Diaper Making Instructions. I don't want to dictate that one group is not "allowed" to play with the rest of us. I want to include as many perspectives and diverse diapering philosophies into one main diapering board.

I want to see the following remain in the main diapering forum and NOT moved away:
Wool Pants
Fleece Pants
WAHM made clothing that works with CDs
Clothing that fits over CDs
Diaper Advocacy wear
Toys or Clothing that depicts cloth diapering
Pictures of stashes
Pictures of babies wearing CDs
Pictures of mama-made diapers
Diaper inventions and accessories

Bottom line, I like our diversity and I don't want to be segregated any longer.
:bow your rock as always mama :love

[abbyskeeper]

Ok, so I'm trying to catch up on this thread... been away from the computer for a week, but I'm typically very active in the diapering forum.

This is how I see the main problem that is going on - there seems to be some division amongst diapering mamas. Some like frugal simplicity diapering others like creative craft diapering others like WAHM diapers others still like high priced WAHM diapers others like Diaper Artpieces.

Our diversity is what makes the diapering forum a beautiful fresh place to visit. However, with pointing one group of mothers to a subforum and others to an entire different board at MDC it makes the diversity (one our greatest strengths) into a huge divide.

Relegating different forums is not working. We end up with a "Hyena Club" in the Show & Tell forum. "Sewing club" happening where NO ONE sees them. "Frugal Club" in the main diapering. We're losing the diverse information and perspectives that everyone has to add. What would I suggest to change it?

I'd like to continue to see these subforums in diapering:
Diapering Archives
Diapering Activism
Diaper Making Instructions (this leaves diaper making mamas able to show off their stashes with all of us NOT just over in Crafts and things forum where few of the others go AND allows the nitty gritty of diaper making to continue)
Diapering Guidelines, Resources & FAQs
Daily Diaper-
Elimination Communication

I would like to get rid of Show and Tell and change the focus of the Diaper Making to Diaper Making Instructions. I don't want to dictate that one group is not "allowed" to play with the rest of us. I want to include as many perspectives and diverse diapering philosophies into one main diapering board.

I want to see the following remain in the main diapering forum and NOT moved away:
Wool Pants
Fleece Pants
WAHM made clothing that works with CDs
Clothing that fits over CDs
Diaper Advocacy wear
Toys or Clothing that depicts cloth diapering
Pictures of stashes
Pictures of babies wearing CDs
Pictures of mama-made diapers
Diaper inventions and accessories

Bottom line, I like our diversity and I don't want to be segregated any longer.


I agree completely!

[organicmommy]

organicmommy, I addressed the issue of stash pics of diapers made by you in the thread in Show and Tell. :thumb

I did see that after I posted here.
Thanks Cynthia

[mgmsmommy]

just wanted to say ITA w/ Spark. Also in the past I showed pics of dipes I didn't make my self, but dyed & they got moved on me to diaper making, boy was I confused since I didn't actually make them, but no big deal. Before that happened I had never even been to the diaper making forum. ;)

[QueenSheba'sMom]

I ABSOLUTELY agree with Spark. Well said. Even without any catchy music to set it to.

[eclipse]

NAK - Spark rocks, ITA.

[ChichosMama]

Ok, so I'm trying to catch up on this thread... been away from the computer for a week, but I'm typically very active in the diapering forum.

This is how I see the main problem that is going on - there seems to be some division amongst diapering mamas. Some like frugal simplicity diapering others like creative craft diapering others like WAHM diapers others still like high priced WAHM diapers others like Diaper Artpieces.

Our diversity is what makes the diapering forum a beautiful fresh place to visit. However, with pointing one group of mothers to a subforum and others to an entire different board at MDC it makes the diversity (one our greatest strengths) into a huge divide.

Relegating different forums is not working. We end up with a "Hyena Club" in the Show & Tell forum. "Sewing club" happening where NO ONE sees them. "Frugal Club" in the main diapering. We're losing the diverse information and perspectives that everyone has to add. What would I suggest to change it?

I'd like to continue to see these subforums in diapering:
Diapering Archives
Diapering Activism
Diaper Making Instructions (this leaves diaper making mamas able to show off their stashes with all of us NOT just over in Crafts and things forum where few of the others go AND allows the nitty gritty of diaper making to continue)
Diapering Guidelines, Resources & FAQs
Daily Diaper-
Elimination Communication

I would like to get rid of Show and Tell and change the focus of the Diaper Making to Diaper Making Instructions. I don't want to dictate that one group is not "allowed" to play with the rest of us. I want to include as many perspectives and diverse diapering philosophies into one main diapering board.

I want to see the following remain in the main diapering forum and NOT moved away:
Wool Pants
Fleece Pants
WAHM made clothing that works with CDs
Clothing that fits over CDs
Diaper Advocacy wear
Toys or Clothing that depicts cloth diapering
Pictures of stashes
Pictures of babies wearing CDs
Pictures of mama-made diapers
Diaper inventions and accessories

Bottom line, I like our diversity and I don't want to be segregated any longer.

WERD.

[ChichosMama]

I don't think it is at all ridiculous that this is not a place to show off personal crafts. That is not what this board is about. That is something that belongs in another forum. Perhaps, instead of making snide remarks about going elsewhere, you should suggest that there be another subforum to discuss and show off diapering items made for you by you.

What a rude comment :irked: . Her stash is something she made! She should not be outcasted bc of that. A stash is a stash! I love to see it all, I don't want to have to go to a diferent board bc it's not "hyena." Lame. It's not a leper stash!

[ShadowMom]

I think Claire had some great suggestions, although it sounds like they are being tabled for the time being.

Regarding moving threads... the current policy of just moving threads around to where they should go does not, I think, create a lot of goodwill between the moderators and users. Personally, I don't see what the big deal is, I mean the world isn't going to end just because someone posted asks about diaper making in the diapering forum.

Maybe if the thread is considered a bit off topic, a warm reminder to the poster would suffice so they know where they should post future stuff like that.

Or, if the thread does have to be moved, could there at least be a message in the thread, stating that it's being moved, and why? I think it's very confusing and, like a previous poster mentioned, kind of like having your wrist slapped when your threads just get moved around and no one says anything.

Also, new users may not understand why their thread was moved and get discouraged from posting.

... and other readers of the thread might be confused about why it was moved.

Overall, MDC is a very management heavy board that is fairly regulated. I am not very comfortable with that, but I don't expect it to change. But, if threads are going to be moved, if they could be changed from a source of resentment to a way of creating goodwill with each other, I think a lot of us would feel better about it all. That's just my humble opinion though.

[LoveBaby]

Ok, so I'm trying to catch up on this thread... been away from the computer for a week, but I'm typically very active in the diapering forum.

This is how I see the main problem that is going on - there seems to be some division amongst diapering mamas. Some like frugal simplicity diapering others like creative craft diapering others like WAHM diapers others still like high priced WAHM diapers others like Diaper Artpieces.

Our diversity is what makes the diapering forum a beautiful fresh place to visit. However, with pointing one group of mothers to a subforum and others to an entire different board at MDC it makes the diversity (one our greatest strengths) into a huge divide.

Relegating different forums is not working. We end up with a "Hyena Club" in the Show & Tell forum. "Sewing club" happening where NO ONE sees them. "Frugal Club" in the main diapering. We're losing the diverse information and perspectives that everyone has to add. What would I suggest to change it?

I'd like to continue to see these subforums in diapering:
Diapering Archives
Diapering Activism
Diaper Making Instructions (this leaves diaper making mamas able to show off their stashes with all of us NOT just over in Crafts and things forum where few of the others go AND allows the nitty gritty of diaper making to continue)
Diapering Guidelines, Resources & FAQs
Daily Diaper-
Elimination Communication

I would like to get rid of Show and Tell and change the focus of the Diaper Making to Diaper Making Instructions. I don't want to dictate that one group is not "allowed" to play with the rest of us. I want to include as many perspectives and diverse diapering philosophies into one main diapering board.

I want to see the following remain in the main diapering forum and NOT moved away:
Wool Pants
Fleece Pants
WAHM made clothing that works with CDs
Clothing that fits over CDs
Diaper Advocacy wear
Toys or Clothing that depicts cloth diapering
Pictures of stashes
Pictures of babies wearing CDs
Pictures of mama-made diapers
Diaper inventions and accessories

Bottom line, I like our diversity and I don't want to be segregated any longer.

:yeah:

you are one brilliant mama, Spark! :love


well, said!!! :thumb

[Cynthia Mosher]

I think it's a good idea for the mods to post a note to explain the move. But often that simply derails the thread into a discussion of moving threads. So if everyone can agree to not do that when a note of explanation is posted by the mod then I think they would gladly do so. :nod

[Jennisee]

I just wanted to say that I totally agree with Spark! MDC used to be my home, and it's not any more. I spent a lot of time in Diapering, but I spent a lot of time elsewhere too, and now I just don't come to MDC at all much any more. I used to spend my down time here, used to post here for hours some nights, used to click on the advertising. I don't do this any more. And I know a lot of people are in the same boat as me.

[radish]

Just throwing in my .02 - ITA w/ Sparks last post! :)

And say that like, Tiffany and the others I rarely come to MDC diapering anymore....so sad :(

[HRC121799]

Ditto Spark!! You rock Mama. Great way with words.

[baileyandmikey]

Just had to add my .02.... ita with SPARK>

[spatulagirl]

Well said Spark!