View Full Version : I think every family has the right to know dont you????????
kittynpokey
01-28-2006, 06:20 PM
hi mamas. i dont even know if i am allowed to post this here or not but i am going to try. i think every family out there has a right to protect themselves and the ones they love.
http://222.12.familywatchdog.us/
this is a site that my mother sent me. its to let all the families out there know where sex offenders are in you area or where ever you want to know. i know that i found this very useful information. i hope everyone sends this site to their family and friends so that everyone can be more aware of whos out there. also hope that you can but this in a favorites folder of some sorts so you can have it at all times.
when you look at this if you could just give it a bump so it stays around so everyone get a look that would be greatly appreciated. hope this helps all of you out there.
or if you know of any other great sites that you want to add to this that would be great!
Lisa
CerridwenLorelei
01-28-2006, 10:24 PM
though where it says if the conviction was one of those boyfriend and girlfriend not just legal age type thing?
or the offenses and ages they were against
can you help me navigate it a bit more?
Mama2Bug
01-29-2006, 12:05 AM
Thanks for posting this. Don't forget to check neighborhoods where your kids play often as well as your own (babysitter, grandparents, friend's house, etc).
Jilian
01-29-2006, 08:54 AM
:eek it is scary to see how many child sex offendors live close to my son's daycare center. I'm glad he will be starting montessori school soon.
MamaBug
01-29-2006, 11:52 AM
I knew about one of the ppl in our town. Now I have a rule that my kids don't play outside without my supervision, either I am there with them or I can see and hear them from inside. Well ds was invited over to a childs house in his class, a child who lives on the same road as an offender. I asked the mother that she always keep my ds in her sights if they were outside playing. She told me that she could not do that, as it would be too time consuming for her, well guess what my ds didn't go. I am so glad that I knew about this, though I would not have let him go anyway
PrettyBird
01-29-2006, 12:10 PM
There has to be more than are on that site. It shows none around my area (I think that may be because I live right next to a park and down the street from the Community Center), but I am sure there probably are some. The pictures of those guys look so nasty. I can't believe they are let out on the streets again. :irked:
Pigpen
01-29-2006, 12:35 PM
http://www.scanusa.com./ If you register at this site, they'll send free alerts when a sex offender moves into your area. You have access to the offenders address, photo and list of offenses.
blissful_maia
01-29-2006, 12:40 PM
Does anyone know of something like this in Canada?
Moochie Mamma
01-29-2006, 12:50 PM
Thanks for the info- unfortunately my state doesn't publish a list on this site but I signed up for the alerts. :Peace
Hey Mama!
01-29-2006, 01:03 PM
ugh, I'm sick to my stomach. Almost every registered sex offender in my town is a child molester :(
trini
01-29-2006, 01:21 PM
I've heard of this site, but have never been to it. I just bookmarked it. None currently live in and around our neighborhood, but that doesn't mean I am going to be less vigilant about ds's safety.
Thanks for the link.
BookGoddess
01-29-2006, 01:22 PM
The following sites are good too. I've checked them out and found out there are registered sex-offenders living 3 miles from us!
www.NationalAlertRegistry.com
www.mapsexoffenders.com
Family Watch Dog and Map Sex Offenders are ones that give the most information for free.
mamawanabe
01-29-2006, 02:41 PM
I wish these registry's were more specific. Some just list "crimes from other states" - which is what? Having sex with a your 16 year old girlfriend when you are 18?
A lot of the notations are specific enough to make a determination about risk, but I wish they all were (i.e. a man who who is on the registry for raping his ex-wife is a bad guy for sure, but not someone I probably have to be concerned about re my 6 year old son.
MountainLaurel
01-29-2006, 02:45 PM
One thing that needs to be said here is that sex offender databases are not a fail-safe. More than 90 percent of children who are molested are not victimized by the creepy guy with a criminal record who lives across from the school, but by a family member, someone close to the family, or another trusted adult. That's why teaching your children factual information about how their bodies work, their rights to control what happens to their bodies, and that they can come to you with anything and you will trust and believe them is more important to their safety than checking a database.
starlein26
01-29-2006, 02:45 PM
great...there's a rapist living one street over!!!! it's a military charge which i'm not sure makes me feel safer or less safe?!?
kittynpokey
01-29-2006, 04:31 PM
im so glad that everyone is finding this helpful. :D also glad to see all of the other sites that were posted. thanks for the add-ons mamas.
Lisa
Tori Gollihugh
01-29-2006, 04:44 PM
thank you for the wonderful information! thankfully, none in my actual neighborhood, but plenty in a nearby one. :(
It's me!
01-29-2006, 05:04 PM
I haven't looked at all the sites yet (getting ready to) but I have looked at my local state registry. My problems are these...A) like others mentioned it doesn't say what the crime was...and I'd like to know if it was a 16 yr. old having sex with an 18 yr. old too. B) They show you the final charge that they were convicted to (which is usually very generic sounding) you KNOW that most of these were reduced down from something. I understand why they don't list the initial charge, but I wish they did. Sometimes it may only say "indecent liberties with a minor" Well, that could be the 16/18 yr. old scenerio, or it could be a child molester with a good lawyer and little evidence.....I WANT TO KNOW!. C). Some never register, or even if they do, they move and don't update....there are not enough people out there making sure they are where they are suppose to be.
I just wanted to mention those points. I'm glad we have a registry, it's better than nothing, but it lacks a lot.
I'm off to check the links now...THANKS!!!! for posting them.
;)
angelpie545
01-29-2006, 11:02 PM
Arrgg I am sick to my stomach as well- there is a sex offender living just down the street from my daughter's elementary school. I wonder if the school knows this? I'm angry! I can't help it but I am. He was convicted of child rape and he's allowed to live that close to a school? I'm sorry but when I think of things like that I think of cases like that poor Jessica Lumsford case and her poor father. It really scares me.
Pigpen
01-30-2006, 12:47 AM
I haven't looked at all the sites yet (getting ready to) but I have looked at my local state registry. My problems are these...A) like others mentioned it doesn't say what the crime was...and I'd like to know if it was a 16 yr. old having sex with an 18 yr. old too. B) They show you the final charge that they were convicted to (which is usually very generic sounding) you KNOW that most of these were reduced down from something. I understand why they don't list the initial charge, but I wish they did. Sometimes it may only say "indecent liberties with a minor"
I know it varies by state, but you should see California's :( The listings almost all show creepy looking men in their 50's, the crimes are horrific, ranging from oral copulation with a minor to child rape. So far, there aren't any listed in my neighborhood, but, that doesn't necessarily mean anything. Someone can move at any time and not report (though it's a violation). It's a step in the right direction...FTR, I have seen what appeared to be an 18 year old male who's crime was sex with a minor. I have a strong feeling it was a consentual thing...but like I said, most of the pictures are of older men.
SneakyPie
01-30-2006, 01:35 AM
Oh my god.
The guy we bought our house from.
I am truly going to cry. That picture scared me *so bad*. And he still lives right in our neighborhood.
Pigpen
01-30-2006, 01:45 AM
:hug That's aweful. I hate thinking that in our daily lives we have any contact with people like this. Have you read "Protecting the Gift"? It's such a great book about how to protect our kids without fear-mongering.
Sharlla
01-30-2006, 02:26 AM
I'd rather not know. I treat everyone as a potential sex offender and trust no one. It's actually the ones that havn't been caught yet that are more of a risk. And just becuause someone is labled something doesn't state the severity of their crime. I've known guys that were falsly accused of date rape before and have to register as a sex offender.
Christine&men
01-30-2006, 10:34 AM
Thank you very much for all the good sites to look at!
Collin'sMama
01-30-2006, 04:12 PM
So scary!
When we were first moving back to my hometown, we were looking for a place to rent and one of the places we looked at was owned by a man on that list. He was a freaking weirdo and we definitely wouldn't have rented, but just the thought......
UGH!!
ShadowMom
01-30-2006, 07:43 PM
:scratch I guess I will have to be the lone person who doesn't bother to look at those databases.
I'm not sure what good it is to know that there is a convicted sex offender that lives near to you.
I have never personally studied their modus operandi, but I'm sure that sexual predators probably go outside of their neighborhoods to look for victims as well.
If there isn't one living close to use, that doesn't mean I could be relieved... my DS is still far more likely to be molested by someone in the family or close to the family, or there could always be people around that don't have convictions. And if there is, I'm not sure what specific action I could take. Even if a convicted sex offender lives close to use, there's not enough information to determine if there's a potential threat.
I would rather spend my time and energy investigating threats that are more likely to happen - like a car accident or an accident in the home, abuse from someone he knows, etc.
Llyra
01-30-2006, 07:45 PM
:scratch I guess I will have to be the lone person who doesn't bother to look at those databases.
I'm not sure what good it is to know that there is a convicted sex offender that lives near to you.
I have never personally studied their modus operandi, but I'm sure that sexual predators probably go outside of their neighborhoods to look for victims as well.
If there isn't one living close to use, that doesn't mean I could be relieved... my DS is still far more likely to be molested by someone in the family or close to the family, or there could always be people around that don't have convictions. And if there is, I'm not sure what specific action I could take. Even if a convicted sex offender lives close to use, there's not enough information to determine if there's a potential threat.
I would rather spend my time and energy investigating threats that are more likely to happen - like a car accident or an accident in the home, abuse from someone he knows, etc.
:yeah:
I have to agree. I haven't looked either, and I don't plan to.
lisalou
01-31-2006, 07:53 AM
Thank yo Kristi-Metz, exactly what I was thinking.
Ellien C
01-31-2006, 02:28 PM
I'm with the last 3 posters. I don't think my child will be grabbed by a sex offender from off my front lawn. I'm more worried about unhealthy relationships she might develop....
Pigpen
02-01-2006, 02:28 AM
I hear what you're saying about the ones on the sex offenders list being the least likely to harm your child. Most of the men on these lists probably had access to children in their own families :( We had a guy down the road from us a couple years ago who was video taping children walking home from school, when we checked, we discovered he was a registered sex offender. Not sure what he was up to but at least the parents in the neighborhood were able to confront him. My kids are not going to be roaming the neighborhood like I was able to. It's just the reality of the times we live in. So, I don't think the creepy neighbor down the street is the big threat, but a threat still.
merpk
02-01-2006, 07:36 AM
Have a problem with all this.
Maybe it's because I live in a big city, and if you go to my zip code you'll find dozens of registered sex offenders, am in a 16-story apartment building surrounded by 30- and 40-story apartment buildings, so what good is knowing that someone living somewhere nearby has a criminal record for sexual offenses?
I think sometimes these databases only serve to either (a) give people a false sense of security because there's no one registered nearby, or (b) make people panic unnecessarily because there is someone registered nearby.
I honestly don't have a problem with the registration itself, but it's parents going through them and working themselves into a tizzy that makes me :scratch.
MamaBug
02-01-2006, 07:39 AM
I worry about everyone not just these types of ppl. I trust pretty much no one and won't take any chances. Best we can do is educate our kids as best as we can. I do keep my children as safe as possible, but I do like to know what potential hazzards there are in my town.
Ruthla
02-01-2006, 08:08 AM
I'd rather not know. I treat everyone as a potential sex offender and trust no one. It's actually the ones that havn't been caught yet that are more of a risk. And just becuause someone is labled something doesn't state the severity of their crime. I've known guys that were falsly accused of date rape before and have to register as a sex offender.
My thoughts exactly!
Now, if the registry included the ages of both victim and perpetrator at the time of the crime, it would be a lot more useful IMO. But there's still a lot of grey area. For example, a man who seduces a 12yo who looks 17 and lied about her age would probably NOT be a danger to a prepubescent child on a playground.
ayme371
02-01-2006, 11:39 AM
I tried the links and unfortunately my state is not one of the 42 that are registered that I could find info for without paying. I was able to find info about my area by doing a google search on Megan's Law. Try this if your interested and your state is not listed.
wednesday
02-01-2006, 11:45 AM
I agree with those who don't bother looking. I think those registries are weird. Why do we have registries for released sex offenders but not for released murderers? And what about all the people out there who have committed horrible violent crimes and just not been caught?
Statistics show nearly all sex crimes are committed by a person known to the victim. Most often a relative in fact. Looking at those registry sites just feels like a waste of my time and a source of pointless anxiety.
Selesai
02-01-2006, 01:48 PM
I agree with wednesday.
But I also am annoyed by these types of registries on principle. If we're "entitled" to this type of information, why not information on murderers? Who says they aren't a threat? Etc. etc. To me, it's also about the rights of each former criminal, but I realize that's an unpopular opinion.
So I'll just stick with-- why bother considering anyone "safe" and anyone else "dangerous?" It's a false dichotomy.
Pigpen
02-01-2006, 06:38 PM
I've always been under the impression that sexual predators are rarely reformed, thus considered more of a threat to society if they're released. Especially when you consider child molesters. They don't molest one child. It's usually a whole family of children, or kids from their church or whatever. Rapists and murderers seems so different just for that reason alone. Murderers don't usually have multiple victims.
kamilla626
02-01-2006, 07:32 PM
I think sometimes these databases only serve to either (a) give people a false sense of security because there's no one registered nearby, or (b) make people panic unnecessarily because there is someone registered nearby.
Yep.
Marsupialmom
02-01-2006, 07:48 PM
I've always been under the impression that sexual predators are rarely reformed, thus considered more of a threat to society if they're released. Especially when you consider child molesters. They don't molest one child. It's usually a whole family of children, or kids from their church or whatever. Rapists and murderers seems so different just for that reason alone. Murderers don't usually have multiple victims.
Not all sexual offenders are repeat offenders. A lot has to do with the type of crime. Even at that there are situations that legally they are wrong, but harmless to society.
Example: We have a friend that is a sex offender because he mooned his ex-girlfriends dad when the 15 year old sister was in the car. Dad at the moment was pissed so he pressed charges. Now he regrets it because of the sex offenders registry has punished way more than needed.
This article goes into some of the changes people are wanting to make locally because of the problems with the list.
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/9040172BCAB85B28862571040060E15E?OpenDocument&highlight=2%2C%22sex%22+AND+%22offender%22
There has to be some room for common since and redemption. There might be a need for a list that police have but not publically available.
SneakyPie
02-02-2006, 02:47 AM
I found the list useful because, for instance, there have on occasion been people in the neighborhood park that I got the vibe from -- you know the one, that raises your mother hackles. I saw that they both lived nearby and meant to check the registry "one of these days." This prompted me to do so -- to see if my gut feeling matched any public conviction -- and I was right about at least 1 of the 2 (our state's more complete registry does list the offense/s, dates, and sentences). I don't spend my days freaking out about these things, but after the initial shock, this information feels helpful to me, like backing up a hunch.
Also, sure it might be great to have registries for other crimes, but *not* having those registries doesn't make these ones ridiculous.
mama729
02-02-2006, 03:22 AM
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ToniaStarr
02-03-2006, 09:03 AM
bump
great site. Though of no help to me right now as RI does not provide the info......will be making a bit of noise about that........
thanks
ayme371
02-03-2006, 09:16 AM
bump
great site. Though of no help to me right now as RI does not provide the info......will be making a bit of noise about that........
thanks
Try googling Megans law. All states are listed in this database.
Erin+babyAndrew
02-03-2006, 09:30 AM
there is a registry in canada, but apparantly it's only accessible to the police.
so.. why have one to "protect the public" if we can't see it? sheesh.
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/techops/nsor/nsor_brochure_e.htm
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