For those of you with really bad morning sickness...

[veganf]

...I mean the kind where you couldn't keep anything down and were so weak you couldn't care for your children...at what point did you/do you make the decision to go to the doctor/hospital and ask for drugs or an IV or SOMETHING!!?

I just don't think I can take much more of this. I'll get a few passable days here and there where I think I'm finally coming out of it, then WHAM, back down I go to throwing up everything, dizziness, etc. We're supposed to go to Hawaii on Monday. I'm just finishing a cold/flu too. I honestly don't want to go anywhere. I don't even remember what it was like to feel good it's so long ago.

This just isn't worth it. I don't think I ever want to get pregnant again. I know I may change my mind a few years down the road. But why the #&!%!?@!? is this pregnancy SOOOOO much worse than my first two? I can't take this anymore.

- Krista

[tatgurl]

I thought that I was the only one that was still feeling bad. I admit that it is starting to get a little better, and I can eat more things that I was able too, but I've been sick for 13 wks now!!!
Luckly, I never throw up, but there is the constant ill feeling.
And I just can't wait till I can brush my teeth without gagging:sick

[veganf]

I wish I could eat my toothpaste, since that's one thing I CAN do. But I use an apricot flavoured toothpaste--those minty flavours would definitely make me sick.

[Jasmyn's Mum]

Have you tried homeopathics? I was lucky to find an awesome prenatal homeopath. I took the remedy twice and the ms went away.

[tatgurl]

I wish I could eat my toothpaste, since that's one thing I CAN do. But I use an apricot flavoured toothpaste--those minty flavours would definitely make me sick.

I wish I could just change toothpaste, but it's the toothbrush in my mouth that gets me. Yuck!

[veganf]

Have you tried homeopathics? I was lucky to find an awesome prenatal homeopath. I took the remedy twice and the ms went away.

I've had no luck with homeopathy except for breastfeeding problems. If there's a remedy I haven't tried, I'll try it. What did you use?

[the_lissa]

I got drugs almost as soon as I got my positive pregnancy test. I go to the hospital for an IV if I can't even keep water down or if I throw up 12 times or so.

[Melaya]

In my last pregnancy drugs always made me worse, so I couldn't use those. But I loved my iv fluids. I went in anytime I wanted to for them. I was always dehydrated enough that they didn't look at me too funny. Feel better :hug

[veganf]

I guess I don't qualify for a hospital visit, since I can drink water. And every couple of weeks I have a few days where I can eat enough, so it gets me by. And I usually don't throw up more than a few times a day...just whenever I eat! But this is just killing my family to have me like this. I'm starting to get really depressed by it too.

- Krista

[the_lissa]

It is very depressing and isolating hon. Have you tried drugs? Have you tried a b6 and half a unisom?

[Karah R]

I'm sorry you've been so sick. That's no fun. :(

B6 and unisom helped me a LOT with DS......not so much this pregnancy, in which I've still been very sick, but it has taken the edge off some.

[chumani]

I am in the "still feel like crap" club too. I will be 15 weeks on Saturday. With my first I went in for IV fluids 4 times, I couldn't even keep down water. With my next 4 pgs I had very mild m/s, nausea only, I never threw up. This time I have been throwing up almost daily and the 24/7 nausea is horrible. I am able to keep water down as long as I make it lemon water. The only foods I have been able to tolerate are, grilled cheese, jalapeno poppers, chocolate creamies and breyers frozen lime bars. Dh took me to our fave mexican restaraunt for our anniversary and the I had 3 lime margaritas (virgin of course) they were fabulous! Anything non-food in my mouth makes me gag. I can handle my toothpaste (anise) but the actual brushing makes me heave.

I hope you start feeling better soon! In time for your trip would be great! Maybe the change of location will help? You may want to go in for an IV before your trip as the altitude change on an airplane can tend to dehydrate most people. Be sure to take tons of water with you on the plane.

Best wishes!!
Sarah



I'm sorry you feel

[CatskillMtnMama]

krista-

no insight here, just wanted to say I really sympathize. My nausea is mild, but some of my other symptoms have been very disheartening (extreme fatigue, very moody) to the point where is got in the way of living. It has made me question whether or not I want more kids after this ... (of course my DH extracted a promise of "no more kids" from me during this first trimester!).

I'm feeling a little better, a little more energy, but in retrospect, I think it made me a little depressed: too tired to go out, too tired to socialize, too tired to be cheery with my DD ... it adds up after three months.

So I have no advice for m/s, but sympathy in general for your situation. Hope, hope it passes soon.

Liz

Liz

[ColoradoMama]

Krista - my m/w had me taking milk thistle. She said that a lot of times women have trouble with morning sickness because of their livers and milk thistle will help that. She had me taking three with each meal. I can't say whether it helped our not. The morning sickness stopped soon after I started taking it, but I was close to the end of the first trimester anyway. Of course now she's talking about the possibility of twins - so morning sickness wouldn't have necessary stopped at the first tri if that was the case, so it might have helped. Anyway, it's safe to take during pg, so it might be worth a shot!

[ibex67]

I have had the worst ms too. At the suggestion of a friend who is also a nurse, I cut back on the amount of iron I was taking. I am now alternating between an prenatal vitamin with iron and one without. It didn't eliminate my ms, but it did ease it a bit.

[JenMidwife]

veganf, I don't know exactly what you're going through, my m/s has lasted through 16 weeks, but was never as expreem as yours. But I do know there are TONS of docs out there who will perscribe Zofran or Phenergan for anyone who asks for it. Clearly you've hung in there for a LONG time w/o drugs... I think it would be totally reasonable to get drugs so you can feel good in Hawaii. Just my 2 cents :) Lots of love & a peaceful tummy to you.

[veganf]

It is very depressing and isolating hon. Have you tried drugs? Have you tried a b6 and half a unisom?

B6 and acetominophen are the only conventional things I've tried.
I think the duration of this is just wearing me down. I had 3 full days of feeling okay at 12 weeks, so I was tricked into thinking I was going to be done with it soon, and then it all came back.

[the_lissa]

Let me know if you want to chat. I had it all 9 months with J, so I can empathize.

[CaraboosMama]

I tried the B6 for awhile and it just wasn't enough. When I started loosing considerable weight (7 lbs over the course of a few days) I decided to ask my Ob about medication. If it makes you feel a little better, it did eventually get better and I went of the medication at around 20 weeks (I am 24 weeks now):Hug It was worth it to not be throwing up all day & have the energy to spend time with my husband and daughter. Hope thie helps!

[lovencloth]

Huge hugs to you Mama, I am on Zofran right now (I had a mallory-wheiss tear from throwing up so much). What it does for me is, it does not take away the queasy feeling, I still feel nausia all the time, It is just really difficult to actuall vomit. It is like it relaxes your stomach muscules. The other draw back is that when you forget to take it or go off it, the sickness really gets worse for about a whole day. I think, honestly though, if you are that sick, go to the doc. I cut out vitamins all together for a week and honestly, now I am on a childrens vit with very low dose of iron and it helps, but does not illimnate the problem. I hope you are feeling better soon. :hug

[the_lissa]

For B6 to be effective, it needs to be taken with an antihistamine, such as unisom. It is available as one pill in Canada.

[veganf]

For B6 to be effective, it needs to be taken with an antihistamine, such as unisom. It is available as one pill in Canada.

grrrr...so I asked my midwife, and she says she doesn't think I should take it, as it's never been proven safe.
Honestly, I may just go to CVS anyway and buy a generic antihistamine and no one will know, right? (except you guys). I willing to try it.
But I have a question, how sleepy does it make you? I mean, the point is to feel better, not sleepier, because I need to be able to actually DO things like take care of my family (especially in March because my husband is going to be away almost the whole month).

[the_lissa]

I don't know what she means by it hasn't been proven safe. It is the only class A drug available here. A quick search for "diclectin" might show you some studies. It was pulled from the U.S. market because the drug manufacturer said it was too much of a lawsuit liability even though it had been proven safe. Sadly, since it was taken off the market, hyperemisis has gone up 3 fold in the U.S.

[the_lissa]

http://motherisk.org/index.jsp has great info.

[3_angels]

I don't neccessarily get sick all the time anymore, but once in a while (more when I'm hungry) I'll gag for no reason. When I smell something weird, when I can taste my own morning breath, when my sweetie smokes a cig outside then comes back in and I can smell it... I just gag a couple of times and then I'm done. It's definately better than puking.
It looks pretty funny though. :lol

[JenMidwife]

Can somone remind me what the "recipe" is for the B6 & Unisom combo is (how much B6 to how much Unisom)? I know it's been posted before, but I can't find it.

Also, FYI while Unisom & Benadryl are both antihistamines, they are different drugs & for the anti-nausea effect, I think it has to be Unisom (or the generic equilivant).

[veganf]

Also, FYI while Unisom & Benadryl are both antihistamines, they are different drugs & for the anti-nausea effect, I think it has to be Unisom (or the generic equilivant).

Thanks for the tip, as I'll need to know the differene if I go get the generic version. I usually have better luck with CVS's generic brands when it comes to finding something with vegan ingredients.

- Krista

[the_lissa]

I believe it is a vitamin b6 pill (dosage doesn't matter- regular dosage) and a half of a unisom (regular strength). You can take it up to four times a day. I take two at night, one in the morning, and one midway through the day. However, I have recently dropped my mid day pill as my morning sickness lets up.

[the_lissa]

I googled and found this at babycenter of all places:

http://www.babycenter.com/expert/pregnancy/isitsafe/1366869.html

You may have also heard of Bendectin (which combines an antihistamine with vitamin B6). This drug was once widely used in the United States to treat morning sickness, but controversy over its safety during pregnancy — despite no scientific evidence that it was harmful — forced the company to pull it from the market. (These days, it's only available in Canada under the name Dicletin.)

The FDA has now classified the combination of ingredients in Bendectin (doxylamine and vitamin B6) as "safe and effective for nausea and vomiting of pregnancy," and you can buy both ingredients separately over the counter. Doxylamine is available as a sleeping pill under the brand name Unisom Nighttime Sleep-Aid (be sure not to get Maximum Strength Unisom SleepGels because that's a different product). And you can find vitamin B6 in the vitamin section, of course. Ask your doctor or midwife if this combination would work for you and, if so, what dose you should take. Remember: Never take any drugs, vitamins, or herbal supplements during pregnancy without first talking to your practitioner


and yahoo:

http://health.yahoo.com/ency/healthwise/tn9124

If vitamin B6 alone doesn't relieve your morning sickness, talk to your health professional about adding doxylamine, a nonprescription antihistamine marketed as 25 mg Unisom Night-Time Sleep-Aid Tablets. Doxylamine is the most proven, safe, and effective medication available for reducing nausea and vomiting during pregnancy. 1

Vitamin B6 and doxylamine was prescribed as Bendectin in the U.S. until 1983, when it was taken off of the market; it has continued to be available in Canada as Dilectin. Although Bendectin was once thought to cause fetal problems, this medication is now considered to have one of the best safety profiles of all medications given during pregnancy, based on the tens of millions of women treated since 1956 with no known fetal effects. 2, 3

[veganf]

I googled and found this at babycenter of all places:

http://www.babycenter.com/expert/pregnancy/isitsafe/1366869.html

You may have also heard of Bendectin (which combines an antihistamine with vitamin B6). This drug was once widely used in the United States to treat morning sickness, but controversy over its safety during pregnancy — despite no scientific evidence that it was harmful — forced the company to pull it from the market. (These days, it's only available in Canada under the name Dicletin.)

The FDA has now classified the combination of ingredients in Bendectin (doxylamine and vitamin B6) as "safe and effective for nausea and vomiting of pregnancy," and you can buy both ingredients separately over the counter. Doxylamine is available as a sleeping pill under the brand name Unisom Nighttime Sleep-Aid (be sure not to get Maximum Strength Unisom SleepGels because that's a different product). And you can find vitamin B6 in the vitamin section, of course. Ask your doctor or midwife if this combination would work for you and, if so, what dose you should take. Remember: Never take any drugs, vitamins, or herbal supplements during pregnancy without first talking to your practitioner


and yahoo:

http://health.yahoo.com/ency/healthwise/tn9124

If vitamin B6 alone doesn't relieve your morning sickness, talk to your health professional about adding doxylamine, a nonprescription antihistamine marketed as 25 mg Unisom Night-Time Sleep-Aid Tablets. Doxylamine is the most proven, safe, and effective medication available for reducing nausea and vomiting during pregnancy. 1

Vitamin B6 and doxylamine was prescribed as Bendectin in the U.S. until 1983, when it was taken off of the market; it has continued to be available in Canada as Dilectin. Although Bendectin was once thought to cause fetal problems, this medication is now considered to have one of the best safety profiles of all medications given during pregnancy, based on the tens of millions of women treated since 1956 with no known fetal effects. 2, 3

Thank you so much for finding all this info. I'm going to try to go to CVS tonight when my husband gets home from work (luckily it's right down the street). Even if I just take it for the next 2 weeks for our vacation, it'll be worth it.

- krista

[reiterin]

I hope you feel better soon. :hug

With me, I was totally unable to take care of DS, so I went in for drugs. I tried Reglan and then Phenergan w/ no luck, but then was given Zofran plus an antacid (since I couldn't eat, the antacid helps w/ the acid buildup causing nausea), and that combo has finally helped me. I still have to take it every morning, but that's it, and I'm feeling much better.

[the_lissa]

Well I hope it makes you feel better hon.

[JenMidwife]

the_lissa , that's awesome info you tracked down. Thanks!

Krista, I hope you find something that helps! Please let us know how you go.

[veganf]

Well, i finally got to CVS this afternoon (couldn't go last night or this morning I was throwing up too much). I'm nervous about taking something that is technically a "sleep aid" while I'm home alone with the boys. And waiting until after they go to bed seems silly, since I have no trouble falling asleep and ironically morning is usually when I have the least morning sickness, and I have trouble keeping anything at all down after 4pm, so I doubt any pill would stay down. Ho hum. We'll see how this goes...

- Krista

[veganf]

Well, I tookit.
I'm yawning but nt asleep.

- Krista

[the_lissa]

I hope you feel better.

I am lucky that it doesn't make me sleepy. I wonder if I have built up a toleraqnce or what.

[rbeaufoy]

I keep meaning to weigh in on this unisom/b6 conversation, but keep getting distracted!

half a Unisom tab (not the gels) and 50 mg of b6 once a day has changed my entire pregnancy!! At the beginning I took the same dose twice a day (morning and night), but eventually, the evening dose was enough to get me through 24 hours. My family has be back and I feel human again......

oh, and after the first week, it stopped making me sleepy too.

[mimi!]

Krista: I saw someone mentioned homeopathics which I'm a huge fan of! Its often hard to self prescribe, and you're right, you can take a huge list of remedies that may not help and it can be just that the potency was off too. Can you see a homeopath for help?

While I didn't have homeopathic help for this problem, I had 2 b6 shots from the naturepath and they work really well. Worked this pg. and with ds. Simply ingesting more b6 often does not work.

I noticed that someone mentioned liver problems. My ND mentioned this as well as the liver has to process more hormones and such (livers actually contribute to over 600 functions in the body). Some milk thistle could help, perhaps even in homeopathic form, maybe in a low potency you could take daily.

Hope you'll be doing better soon!

[veganf]

I already take flax oil and dandelion root, but I added milk thistle as well, figured it couldn't hurt.
I've had it with homeopathy personally. Our children's pediatrician is a homeopath, but I have had no luck with remedies for myself.
After take the B6/doxylamine for two days, I've stopped throwing up...or so far so good anyways. Still a bit nauseous, but better than it was.

- Krista

[JenMidwife]

Krista- so happy to hear you stopped throwing up (a couple of days ago). How's it been since? Has it made you very sleepy?

Jen

[veganf]

Just an update...I've been taking the anti-m/s drugs for 2 weeks now. Yesterday I was suddenly HUNGRY. I mean like I ate ALL DAY, and the same again today. WHOA! Don't know why, and man does it feel good to suddenly be able to eat, but holy cow I must have gained 10 pounds in 2 days and my belly is so full it looks huge! Maybe just a normal growth spurt, maybe a result of not eating for so long and suddenly being able to, but OINK OINK!!:o

- Krista

[the_lissa]

I'm glad you feel better.:)

[JenMidwife]

Thanks for the update Krista- I think about you & send peaceful tummy vibes your way :)

Jen

[rbeaufoy]

I'm so happy to hear you're feeling a bit more human these days! I've been thinking about you, wondering if the meds were working or not......

:love Robyn

[veganf]

Yeah, well after my 2 day food binge, my appetite slowed down a bit, but I ended up with horrible gas pains at night probably from eating so much food since I wasn't used to it. It happened again last night, but not quite as bad. If it's not one thing, it's another! But at least I can eat! Still my list of foods I CAN'T eat is probably still longer than the list of foods I can eat (or smell, or even look at), but it's been a big improvement!

Anyone else's morning sickness still hanging on?

- krista

[the_lissa]

I am right there with you.

[JenMidwife]

I haven't had nausea since about 16 weeks, but have randomly thrown up twice since then (I think from eating or drinking too much, too quickly). Have been feeling great since about 16 wks though (19 now). Weeks 13-16 were really though- I was afraid it was NEVER going to end!!!

If it's like that w/ next pg while I'm chasing around a toddler, I'll definitely be trying the Unisom/B6 combo.

[rbeaufoy]

I'm still feeling crummy, but it's tolerable-crummy. I'm the unlucky sort who feels sick for 9 months....so I've resigned myself instead of getting resentful that I can't feel better like everyone else! Like I said in another post, the Unisom/B6 changed everything for the better, but I still have that underlying crummy feeling...does that make sense?!

[veganf]

Oh I understand about the crummy feeling. I still don't feel GOOD. But I feel 1000% better than before the drugs. And I can do things for my children and take them places again, which is so important while my husband is away for a week at a time.

- krista

[JenMidwife]

Hey Krista- sorry to beat a dead horse, you probably just want to let this whole morning sickness thing go! Buuut... did you notice much sleepiness w/ the Unisom/B6 combo? Just curious!

Hope you're having fun eating! :)

[veganf]

It took a week or so before I wasn't just ready to crawl back into bed 2 hours after I'd gotten up. I still notice the effects (on the baby too, sadly :( . Shrimp's "quiet time" is the 5-6 hours after I've taken it.) but I can function. I've only been taking it once a day, which just barely gets me by. I take it in the morning, mid-morning if I can hold off. I'd like to take it in the evening too, but I'm resisting. I tried one day off it, and did okay, but the next day even though I took it again I felt horrible. I just keep hoping the m/s will pass, but apparently it's sticking with me.

- Krista

[TechnoGranola]

I started getting nauseous at 13 weeks. I felt ill 24/7 and couldn't even look at my computer at work without feeling worse. I drank peppermint tea and ginger tea like it was going out of style, I took B6, carrot juice to help the liver get rid of the hormones and nothing helped. I could barely eat I felt so terrible. After 2 weeks of it I went to a homeopath and got myself a remedy. He said he didn't prescribe me the common remedies for morning sickness because I had different symptoms than the "regular" cases (for example, I would get really claustrophobic feeling in the car).

Got my remedy last Thursday, by Saturday morning I had no traces of nausea. Then this morning it hit me hard again but I had my remedy with me and sipped on it in water. 20 mins. later I was feeling 100% again.

If your homeopath is suggesting remedies that aren't working for you, they are either not asking enough questions to find out the remedy you personally need, or just aren't skilled enough to find you the correct remedy. You may even need a combination remedy. I'd try a new homeopath. In my case it cost me $50 for the visit (any future visit will be less) and $8 at my local health food store for my remedy. Best $58 I've spent in a long time.

Very sorry that you've been going through this for so long. :( 2 weeks was WAY pushing my limit of being able to put up with it.

[veganf]

Funny thing is that the one remedy that most suits my symptoms is the one remedy that I won't take: sepia. It's made from squid ink, and I'm a vegetarian, so it's out.

- Krista

[the_lissa]

If your homeopath is suggesting remedies that aren't working for you, they are either not asking enough questions to find out the remedy you personally need, or just aren't skilled enough to find you the correct remedy. You may even need a combination remedy.


I've been to a few homeopaths and have tried every homeopathic remedy known to man- by themselves and in combinations, and nothing worked. The only thing that keeps me out of the hospital is b6 and unisom, so I have to disagree with you.

[TechnoGranola]

I've been to a few homeopaths and have tried every homeopathic remedy known to man- by themselves and in combinations, and nothing worked. The only thing that keeps me out of the hospital is b6 and unisom, so I have to disagree with you.I'm confused by how your homeopaths are approaching this if they just keep suggesting remedies in hopes that one eventually works (not sure if that's what they are doing, but it seems if you've tried every remedy that they are not doing their job). It is very hard to find a good homeopath. Lots don't know what questions to ask and don't obtain enough history for the patient. My naturopath was also trained in homeopathy and every time she prescribed me a remedy, it didn't work.

I am glad that you found something that did work. I know B6 did nothing for me, but I did not try it with Unisom as I had not heard of that.

In the end what matters most is that you find something that works for you so you can function. I am happy that the homeopathy is working for me because it's cheap and safe (heck, there's NOTHING in it! :)).

[TechnoGranola]

Funny thing is that the one remedy that most suits my symptoms is the one remedy that I won't take: sepia. It's made from squid ink, and I'm a vegetarian, so it's out.

- KristaYes sepia is the remedy that my homeopath said is most often prescribed for morning sickness. I suspect I was different because I didn't have classic morning sickness since mine didn't exist until 13 weeks, so I already wasn't following the normal pattern.

What dilution did your homeopath recommend? My remedy is a 10M which is very highly diluted (and the most diluted are supposed to be the "strongest"). Even a weakly diluted remedy has essentially none of the initial compound remaining. You may know this already but just thought I'd toss it out there in case it changed your mind on whether or not to try it. I am a vegetarian as well and I wouldn't have hesitated to use sepia if it was the remedy suggested for me. But that's me. I have a strong objection to prescription and over the counter medication at anytime (and even more so in pregnancy), so a substance diluted millions of time so that it virtually didn't exist anymore would be more on my comfort level.

You have to do what's most comfortable to you and you have every right to not want to take sepia.

[the_lissa]

My medication is free with my insurance and safe, as it is the only dru ever classified as class A in Canada, so my remedy is also safe and cheap. Much cheaper than the homeopathic remedies I've tried.

FTR, the homeopaths I saw (I also saw an acupuncturist) did not just suggest random remedies. My point is that sometimes homeopathic remedies just don't work for certain people, and I don't think it is fair to say that it must be because the person isn't a good homeopath or doing their job properly.

[TechnoGranola]

My medication is free with my insurance and safe, as it is the only dru ever classified as class A in Canada, so my remedy is also safe and cheap. Much cheaper than the homeopathic remedies I've tried.Oh, I hope you didn't think I was implying your medication wasn't safe! I haven't done the research you have done on unisom (I did a quick search and it seems to be a sleep remedy? Did I find the correct thing?) as homeopathy worked for me so I didn't need to pursue anything else.
FTR, the homeopaths I saw (I also saw an acupuncturist) did not just suggest random remedies.Okay, it's just that you said you tried every remedy known to man and that you went to several homeopaths so I put the 2 together and figured it must have been your homeopaths recommending all those remedies. My apologies if I jumped to the wrong conclusions.

Did the acupuncture work for you at all? I tried it for another condition and it didn't do a thing for me. I was totally disappointed as I'd had high hopes for it. I went to the practioner 5 or 6 times so I think I gave it a good chance. I did get bumps under my skin where she had placed the needles though so I wonder if maybe she wasn't doing it quite right.My point is that sometimes homeopathic remedies just don't work for certain people, and I don't think it is fair to say that it must be because the person isn't a good homeopath or doing their job properly.Yes, I should have said "in my opinion" before I made those comments. I was basing it on the experience of myself and several members in my family with chronic illnesses that have been to homeopaths. There had been enough of us, that it wasn't a coincidence anymore in my mind, but yes you are correct that I can't take those experiences and apply it to all homeopaths. But it's still my opinion. :D

[the_lissa]

No I understand. I think we just miscommunicated. :)

My homeopaths may have been bad for all I know. I've seen two different ones with both pregnancies, so I finally gave up.

Actually the acupuncture did kinda work for me, but still not to the point where I am functional.

Yes unisom is a sleep remedy, but the medication I take is called diclectin and is a combination of unisom (doxylamine) and b6.

[TechnoGranola]

Yes unisom is a sleep remedy, but the medication I take is called diclectin and is a combination of unisom (doxylamine) and b6.That what diclectin is?? Thanks, I had no idea! I called my midwife when I was feeling so crappy to see if she had any advice. She had a few recommendations and told me I could also consider diclectin. I decided to give the homeopath a shot first (actually not one of her recommendations, she's not much of a herb/natural remedy lady) and never ended up looking into diclectin. I had no idea it was a combo of anything and had no idea it contained B6. That is actually very interesting information!

[the_lissa]

Yep. I forgot you were in Canada.

I also have to say that I do feel a bit defensive about taking it in terms of my nfl'ness, but I had to quit my job, have been in the hospital several times, found it difficult to parent my toddler (dirty diaper changes-ugh), so that's where I was coming from.

[TechnoGranola]

Ugh the_lissa, I am sorry to hear that. :( I was getting ready to snap after only 2 weeks of feeling like crap. I really couldn't have put up with any longer. It was stressing me out so much and I was so sad that my 8 year old was looking after me every evening while I lay on the couch feeling like crap. I can't even imagine how difficult it would have been with a toddler who can't understand what the heck is going on. You made the right decision!

I can only hope that my bout with this is gone (or will still be easily resolved by my little remedy). If anything changes with me though, I will likely have some questions for you about the diclectin. Information from someone who has experience with it is ALWAYS useful to me.

Take care of yourself! I assume you're feeling lots better now?

[the_lissa]

Yes, I am rarely nauseous any more, but I do throw up a couple times a week. I don't mind the throwing up as much as I do the nausea.

Since I have been feeling better, I have been weaning off the diclectin. I am down to one before bed from 4 a day. That has been working, so I decided to skip my night time pill one night, and I was soooo sick the next morning, so Ia m going to keep taking my one a night and then try to cut them in half after that before finally weaning off them.

It is a big improvement from my first pregnancy where I was sick all nine months and on the full dose of diclectin.

[veganf]

Our homeopath is highly recommended by everyone I know, but none of the remedies she's prescribed to any of our family have worked (honestly, I don't believe in homeopathy, but she's also an M.D., and I'd rather give natural methods a try first). The only remedy that's ever "worked" for me is phytolacca decandra for plugged ducts/mastitis, and that was not her prescribing it, just agreeing with my midwife that it was the right remedy to try.

I've never tried acupuncture. We don't have health insurance anymore, and it's EXPENSIVE. I can't keep running around to different doctors and blowing $100's of dollars. I'm so glad I found out about the B6/doxylamine combo, because it's sooo cheap. I'd been taking lots of B6, but that didn't do anything. So after 3 months of throwing up multiple times daily and not being able to be a parent, I'm glad the stuff works. Even if I'd been able to afford to go to a doctor again (already went to get HCG and iron levels checked, that was $100 just for the labs, not including the visit itself) and get one of the medications prescribed in the U.S. for morning sickness, I didn't want them, because I've read up on them and I don't care for the way they work or their side effects, plus I don't think I could afford them. Thank goodness for all of YOU!!!! I never expected to have such terrible m/s the third time around.

- Krista

[JenMidwife]

I'd try a new homeopath. In my case it cost me $50 for the visit (any future visit will be less) and $8 at my local health food store for my remedy. Best $58 I've spent in a long time.

WOW! I'm jealous... my midwives are really pro-homeo, but for homeos around here (Philly & Delaware), they said that the initial visit is over $100 & subsequent visits would be over $50. OUCH!

[TechnoGranola]

WOW! I'm jealous... my midwives are really pro-homeo, but for homeos around here (Philly & Delaware), they said that the initial visit is over $100 & subsequent visits would be over $50. OUCH!Yikes. Do you have a health plan that covers any of it? I know my plan covers naturopaths, chiropractors, and a bunch of other natural practitioners, but not homeopaths. I'm not sure if that might be why he tries to make his price reasonable. It also could be that our province is totally behind the times and he just might not get any clients if he charged more! (likely) :D I checked and additional visits are $30 with him.

[veganf]

the_lissa: How early did you start taking the unisom/B6? I am just thinking about IF there's a "next time", how soon it's safe to start. I'm nervous taking ANYTHING in the first trimester since that's when all of the major organs are forming. But then again, another 12 weeks of throwing up constantly doesn't appeal to me either!

- Krista

[the_lissa]

I start taking it as soon as I can get an RX from my doctor. I think I was 6 weeks this time.

[veganf]

Good to know, thanks!

- Krista

[JenMidwife]

Yikes. Do you have a health plan that covers any of it? I know my plan covers naturopaths, chiropractors, and a bunch of other natural practitioners, but not homeopaths. I'm not sure if that might be why he tries to make his price reasonable. It also could be that our province is totally behind the times and he just might not get any clients if he charged more! (likely) :D I checked and additional visits are $30 with him.

Nope, our plan doesn't cover any "complimentary" medicine. :( I don't think many plans do here (w/ the exception of chiro). I don't know who can afford to pay those kind of prices out of pocket :shrug

[the_lissa]

Yikes. Do you have a health plan that covers any of it? I know my plan covers naturopaths, chiropractors, and a bunch of other natural practitioners, but not homeopaths. I'm not sure if that might be why he tries to make his price reasonable. It also could be that our province is totally behind the times and he just might not get any clients if he charged more! (likely) :D I checked and additional visits are $30 with him.


It costs 50 dollars here in Ontario. My husband's plan from his old work allowed a certain number a year -1500 or 2000 I think on "alternative medicine, but his new work plan doesn't. I used most of mine on chiropractry and massage therapy.