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Dido
03-06-2006, 09:42 PM
From the Guardian, usually the UK's best daily newspaper.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/medicine/story/0,,1723872,00.html

Hope the link works. There is so much misinformation and missing information in the article, I was really shocked. Apologies if this is the wrong place to post this. As a recent c-section mama, I just wanted to share my distress at this...!




warrior mama
03-07-2006, 07:39 AM
:irked: Why do they pretend a c-section is painfree? Surgery hurts.

OnTheFence
03-07-2006, 11:07 AM
:irked: Why do they pretend a c-section is painfree? Surgery hurts.

It may depend. My last two csections were virtually pain free. A friend had an emergency csection for HELLP in the fall and she said the same thing.

Phoebe
03-07-2006, 06:56 PM
Ugh. I only got 1/4 of the way through the article and had to stop out of disgust.

Quote:
We are fast approaching the point where logically we should encourage women to have a caesarean whether or not they have a medical or psychological reason for wanting one

I had to stop right about there. What a moron...

kittymac
03-08-2006, 01:28 PM
WOW! I'm speechless! :(

marybethorama
04-12-2006, 08:50 AM
I can't bring myself to read this.

My blood pressure will go throught the roof.

Not to mention the neighbors might call the police to report a pyschotic woman screaming "THIS IS BULL****!!!" at her computer screen.

velcromom
04-12-2006, 12:20 PM
It's more a tabloid article, it has no place in a "real" newspaper. The author directly contradicts all the research done on the risks of surgical birth, and blames every little complication on vaginal birth, they clearly did not have any intention of offering facts, but focused on a lot of fear based opinion.

In the first paragraphs a story about a mom ending up with a c/s after a long second stage... used to justify elective c/s ... the author has apparently failed to realize how interventions affect labor and is assuming the effects of obstetrical labor management, forceps, vacuum, episiotomies, etc, to be caused by vaginal birth, period.

It's scary how an article can get published even with a total lack of accurate information, no research done on normal birth or the complications they are blaming it for. No fact checkers at The Guardian these days??

Another "cure the symptom not the cause" - no, it's worse than that... more like "cure the symptom and remain happily ignorant of the cause", - motion that superficially appears to give women choice but actually denies them the information they need by making terribly false assumptions in the first place.

So much garbage is offered up in the name of "choice". Packaging elective surgery in misinformation and selling it as a choice is pure deception.

I hate this kind of deception practised on women, sold to us in a pretty package "here, we have a lovely plan that will save you from all the horrible side effects of being female!!" when really it's fearful attempts to control our female biology that causes most of the horrible side effects, but don't tell women that or the cat will be out of the bag!

But what I hate even more is that we fall for it and offer ourselves up for it, I know we do because I've been one of the ones in line for it. You can see where it got me.


Don't read the comments, it's ugly, there are a few voices of reason but too many frighteningly serious advocates.

stayathomecristi
04-12-2006, 01:26 PM
Ugh. I only got 1/4 of the way through the article and had to stop out of disgust.

Quote:
We are fast approaching the point where logically we should encourage women to have a caesarean whether or not they have a medical or psychological reason for wanting one

I had to stop right about there. What a moron...

I couldn't finish reading it either!!!!

lauriebeth
04-13-2006, 08:06 AM
b.s.

1- c/s hurt. ask any c/s mom and they will say it hurt more than the vaginal births they have had.

2- this treats birth as a medical problem. its almost like saying, "lets have everyone concieve by IVF"

3- i think the myth about labor being too painful is that. i got the epi (after saying i never would) because i was scared. it did hurt, but if ONE person had said, "you can do it!" I would have not gotten it. EVERYONE said, "oh, it gets so bad, you need it, you wont be able to deal..." I was scared, and they scared me more, so i got it :(

i wonder how many will ask for a c/s now after readng that? there were 2 women in my birth class who were considering ECS (for their first!) one woman even left duribg the natural birth video- it scared her too much.