What do you think?

[mrsfatty]

What do you think of this: http://www.nogreaterjoy.org/ approach to parenting?

Personally, I'm finding it offensive and grating to my very soul--but I can't articulate why...maybe those of you who are more articulate/know how to speak your mind can tell me what YOU think of it...

Thanks!

[Think of Winter]

When I clicked on the link, I didn't get the immediate sense that this was a parenting website, but rather a church. I did snoop around a tiny bit, and found a pg called "Jumping Ship, which starts with "If you want to almost guarantee that your children will not jump ship (other factors being equal), provide a community life that holds promise of suitable future mates." Ding ding ding. Sounds to me like a church sect, and I'd only be looking there for parenting advice if I were a member.

OK, just snooped a bit more and found a whole section advocating and defending "the rod", i.e. corporal punishment. I really don't think anyone here on GD would find any useful info here.

[mrsfatty]

I was asked what I thought of this: http://www.nogreaterjoy.org/index.php?id=48&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=92&tx_ttnews[backPID]=3 and it just rubs me wrong...

[fly-mom]

I read the first page of the second link that you posted and it is certainly yukky. The whole jist of it is that you have to "bend" a child to your will. Any comprimise with a child is only teaching them that they can get their way over yours. Even if I had never heard of the Pearls, this first page would send up big honking warning flags for me. It is not gentle and it is not respectful. I couldn't read any further than the first page.

[fly-mom]

Wait, I more from me.

Along the lines of not being respectful of children, this first page to me, smacks of training a child not to be a person, only to submit to the will of the bigger person. It also has the feel of, "If you don't nip this behavior now your child will be a monster".

[L&IsMama]

From the nogreatersadism*cough*joy site

"If a child cries out in loneliness and is rewarded by being picked up, you have trained him to repeat the crying any time he wants to control the adults in his life. " Excuse me,have.to.:Puke

The Pearls make me physically ill. I would have "no greater joy" than to see everything they advocate being done to innocent children done to them. Repeatedly.:firedevil

[canadiyank]

Yes, the Pearls are extremely punitive...here's an excerpt from the first chapter of their book. (paste in browser and take out space...to the OP maybe you could edit your links so they can't be traced back here...):

http://www. gospeltruth. net/children/pearl_tuac.htm

[TinkerBelle]

They also think women should stay with child molesting husbands.

But if your husband has sexually molested the children, you should approach him with it. If he is truly repentant (not just exposed) and is willing to seek counseling, you may feel comfortable giving him an opportunity to prove himself, as long as you know the children are safe. If there is any thought that they are not safe, or if he is not repentant and willing to seek help, then go to the law and have him arrested. Stick by him, but testify against him in court. Have him do about 10 to 20 years, and by the time he gets out, you will have raised the kids, and you can be waiting for him with open arms of forgiveness and restitution. Will this glorify God? Forever. You ask, "What if he doesn’t repent even then?" Then you will be rewarded in heaven equal to the martyrs, and God will have something to rub in the Devil’s face. God hates divorce—always, forever, regardless, without exception.

[Calidris]

No, no, not the Pearls again :(

[Kathryn]

:angry I hate the Pearls. Them, Dobson, Baby Whisper lady, Ferber, and Ezzo are all on my sh*t list.

[Kaitnbugsmom]

From the nogreatersadism*cough*joy site

"If a child cries out in loneliness and is rewarded by being picked up, you have trained him to repeat the crying any time he wants to control the adults in his life. " Excuse me,have.to.:Puke

The Pearls make me physically ill. I would have "no greater joy" than to see everything they advocate being done to innocent children done to them. Repeatedly.:firedevil

amen. The pearls, ezzos, etc. make me :puke as well.. and :cry for the thousands of children whose parents feel that this is the best way to raise a child...

[TiredX2]

The Pearls are wonderful if you want an "absolutely trained" child.

Why one would want to train a child is beyond me.

:Puke

The question is, "If I am in a position where I cannot use the rod, am I already doomed to failure, or is there still hope? Can children be trained without use of the rod?" Absolutely. But they cannot be absolutely trained.

http://www.nogreaterjoy.org/index.php?id=59&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=80&tx_ttnews[backPid]=35&tx_ttnews[sViewPointer]=1&cHash=f71a307fe8

According to the Pearls there is a biblical mandate for physical correction. The only reason they accept for not doing so is actual LEGAL intervention you cannot get around.

[L&IsMama]

They also think women should stay with child molesting husbands.

OMG....Ugh!! WTH is wrong with these people??:cuss

[Kaitnbugsmom]

OMG....Ugh!! WTH is wrong with these people??:cuss


you want an alphabetical, numerical, or chronological list? and how big a skewer to poke your eyes out to rid yourself of the images the info conjures?