Pregnancy After Loss III....

[Jacque Savageau]

Wow, you ladies have a lot to say! The support in these threads is amazing!

I thought it was time to start a new thread since you're already on page 6!

Can we start out with a roll call and quick update? I'd love to hear from everyone - you know, the mother in me worries when I don't hear from you :love

Gently,

Jacque

[emmaline]

Jacque I was thinking the same thing!

22 weeks here, lots of gentle movements from the baby, I can eat properly, but not stay asleep very well, my BP is good, the hot weather is mostly over (sigh of relief)

emotionally - I believe there will be a baby now! so I can let go of some of the anxiety but sometimes I feel like a leaky tap, everything seems to bring tears to my eyes

dh still smug, ds1 accepting but anxious for me (chip off this old block), ds2 sweet - he talks to the baby, give "her"(his word) lots of hugs, can't wait to meet "her"

I get lots of "oh this one must be a girl" from people, but I have no strong sense either way

so this is the "easy" part of the pregnancy for me

love to hear how everyone else is going!

e:down off to a seminar on mastitis!

[kaje62]

16 weeks here, no movements from the baby yet but maybe flutters?

get up to pee at least once a night. working on weaning my two year old.

little worried about being 41 and having a healthy baby

have been cranky and teary as a pregnant mom

miscarried our first in 2000.

[Eman'smom]

11.5 weeks here, I feel better all the time about this baby "sticking". But I'm still nervous.

I can't wait to get through a few more weeks and the horrible morning sickness passes. This has been a true test to all pregnancies are different, with ds I wasn't really that hungry and felt a bit off in the morning. With this one I can't eat enough and feel sick all the time.

My emotions haven't been bad, oddly with the miscarried baby I was an emotional wreck during my short pregnancy, I was crying the whole time. I wonder about that sometimes.

[XM]

31 weeks today... Spawn is very active and getting bigger every day (lots of movement, hardly gentle). We have a midwife who trusts me to trust my body and honors the path we are on, which we are so grateful for. We were originally planning a birth center birth, but now we are looking at homebirthing in our tiny apartment. It's like our own little Hobbit Hole, it's very cozy and feels very safe... so we may just tell the midwife to come to us...

XM

[abakerbird]

DP is 17 1/2 weeks and everything is looking good. We had an u/s last Thurs., and baby was moving nicely. Measurements are good, right on schedule. We could still see baby Mica's sac, but per the Dr., there is no "communication" between baby Mica's tiny placenta/sac and baby Sam's placenta (good news for Sam and dp!). DP is feeling more hopeful that our little surviving twin will thrive and thrive and thrive!

Dr. said baby Sam is old enough to tell gender, but baby wouldn't cooperate by moving into a "peeking" position, so it's still a mystery as to whether Sam will stand for 'Samantha' or 'Samuel'.

We still have 'grieving' days, and sometimes I still slip and say "babies" or "kids" instead of "baby" but it's getting easier. Still hard to see moms with twins, though.

More good news: Dr. said that dp may be able to have vaginal birth instead of C-section. Placenta is at the fron of uterus, and risk is about the same now as for a VBAC, and he's actually willing to actively work with us to achieve natural birth. (still adamant against laboring/birthing at home, though--oh well, we will take what we can, and do what it takes to keep Sam and dp healthy!)

Getting anxious to reach dp's EDD!!
April

[Nik's Mommy]

I'm 10 weeks today. I was feeling very apprehensive about planning and being exited. (I even delayed posting on this thread.) Yesterday, I had an early u/s and saw the little beating heart. :heartbeat It was wonderful to see, and really made me feel at ease. I feel that I can allow myself the joy, now. Everything is going very normally for this pg and has been for a few weeks now. (Gotta love the m/s and fatigue.) I think I can safely pull out the maternity clothes and start picking names.
I know my pg is still "early", but I have a great feeling about this one. Here's hoping I'm right.......

Glad to hear how everyone is doing. :love

[Jacque Savageau]

Glad to hear from most of you - OceanMommy - I need you to check in :wink and a few others.

Remember the fears many of you are going through is very normal. It's very hard to relax at times, so please remember to care for yourselves.

XM, your birth plan sounds beautiful. I think it will be a very healing experience for you and dp. It's funny you mentioned a Hobbit Hole - ds and I just started reading The Hobbit last night. He had a snow day today and played cozy little hobbit all day long.

Gently,

Jacque

[SpiralWoman]

hi all~
sorry I havent ck'd in, but didn't realize there was a new thread & just thought the old one was quiet!

I am now 29 weeks & baby is bouncing around more & more. I am feeling more relaxed, but also a little freaked out that I am really going to be a momma! :eek Kinda cool, though!

I have found out that by being present to my anxieties/ worries/ emotions that I am finding new things out about myself everyday. So even though my emotional upheavals aren't the easiest thing to deal with & continue "normalcy" @ the same time, I think this journey is definitely a positive thing in my life. Like some others here, I have also spent time "delaying" being happy about this pregnancy. I feel I am moving past this & into a deeper sense of faith in my primary beliefs: that life is abundant & resilient~ & I am a part of that! Of course, everyday that goes by naturally takes me further into the reality that everything is ok! Being this far along really makes staying "in the present" easier! :wink

XM- so glad you feel @ home enough in your new place to consider bringing your midwife to you! I just know that the more options I have open to me, the better I feel!

blessings to all, Maria

[seagan]

Hi, all! I'm just about 15 weeks along now and things look and feel pretty good, though I STILL find myself doubting that this will really last. Like yesterday, as my midwife got ready to check the baby's heartbeat, I realized I was ready to be told she heard nothing and was actually SURPRISED to hear that the baby was still alive! Maybe feeling more pronounced kicks more regularly will help; right now I just get the tiniest of flutters, which are thrilling but too fleeting just the same.

My main worry right now is how sore and heavy I already feel in my pelvic area and lower back -- like I'm already 7 months along or something! I'm going to see a physical therapist next week, though, so hopefully we can do some stuff to strengthen me and my SI joint up before the baby REALLY weighs something.

So glad to hear from you other mamas-to-be -- I think about you so often!

darcy
DS #1 now 31 months; Buck-buck #2 EDD 8.28.03

[kaje62]

oh darcy I can so relate to expecting the worse and I even miscarried before Charlie and had a healthy baby.

[Eman'smom]

I'm glad to hear everyone is doing so well.

We had our 12 week appointment with the midwife and got to hear the heartbeat. I have a tipped uterus so I was expecting nothing (that and with the fears of m/c that I can't shake). She normally doesn't listen long (just long enough to check everything) however this time she let us listen for quite a bit, it was so wonderful our little one even gave us a few kicks to hear on the doppler. I had an early ultrasound but hearing for some reason makes it very real. She wants to schedule a second ultrasound for mid second trimester to check on organ development ( our son had liver problems) so all is well with us.

[magdala]

Hello you beautiful women - magdala here checking in at 38!?!!!! weeks!!!!!
Babe is almost at 8!!! lbs. and fully engaged and ready to go (or so says mw at our home visit this week) - I'm hoping for a full moon baby like I was- many people have been mentioning March 19th to me so perhaps that will be it?

Planning a homebirth, supplies in order, don't know how often I'll be checking the computer (other than this site I am not tech-friendly) and wanted to take the chance to extend my thanks and love to all of you through this time.

The cycle of birth and loss continues, and in that balance is great wisdom, which everyone here reflects so beautifully.

Just found out the story of my miscarriage will be going in a book by my wise acupuncurist/midwife. I am so grateful that that little life will be able to help others- and although I hate it when people tell me "everything happens for a reason", at least this has given me some healing closure to the experience.

I think I may be the first to "go" so I'll check in and let you all know how things went!!!

With all blessings for your sweet babes and your sweet selves,
jb

[Jacque Savageau]

magdala, you sound so positive - I'm so glad!

Please know we're all here for you and looking forward to hearing your birth story. please feel free to start a thead on it in this forum - many of us will be anxious to hear from you.

You're deep in my thoughts - take care.

Gently,

Jacque

[kaje62]

Magdala. Go for March 19, I have already said that though, Charlie's birthday, great great day. I am so happy for you and I would love to read your miscarriage story. Would you pm it to me or post it on a thread somewhere. Lots of love to you.

And Emansmom, I so relate. I was told I too have a tipped uterus. Blessings to all of you.

[Abylite]

Hello!

I just discovered this "subforum" and I'm so glad you all are around!! I post on the preg and birth loss and TTC boards frequently.

I hopefully will be joining you soon...I'm in the 2ww. I'll keep you posted! Keep your fingers crossed for me.

I'm glad all babies to be are doing well :)

[MossbackMeadow]

Just checking in. Baby is due around July 1, so I'm approaching 24 weeks or so now. Lots of movement and practice contractions.
Planning a 4th homebirth after a miscarriage -induced gap of 7 years.
Feeling great but pelvic bones getting very sore, starting to move a little slower.
Hvae gained about 15-20 lbs.
I've been very busy with my oldest ds's swim season - he kept qualifying to advance and did a great job - that's over now so we'll be home weekends and life will slow down a bit.
Ready for spring!

MM

:thumb

[kaje62]

MossBack welcome.
Abylite sending you good baby vibes ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[kaje62]

please check out this thread and if you have any interest, let patricia know

http://216.92.20.151/discussions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=44400

[Abylite]

Hello!

Just asking for some prayers that this baby will stick around. I'm excited yet a little fearful. We had a m/c 3 months ago at 9 weeks. My first u/c is April 15- so I'll feel better seeing a hearbeat!

Grow baby Grow!!!

[emmaline]

Abylite I hope you and your baby are doing well :heartbeat

[emmaline]

things have gotten a bit more complicated for me this past week - glucose started to show up in my pee so I had a one-hour glucose test and flunked it, now I have to do a longer test... meanwhile I've been doing my homework on GD, reading up a pile of sites. My diet is pretty clean but the sweet tooth can be compelling. What I really want is a spelled out plan - eat this at breakfast, eat this at midmorning etc. I understand the risks are small to babe unless my sugars get really shocking and am prepared to work on lowering risk factors for type II diabetes in the long run.... sigh... eating less fruit is very counterintuitive

on a more positive note though - I have interviewed a very experienced anaesthetist in an effort to avoid the horrible epidural failure at my last c-birth and feel comfortable that I will have a better time this time regardless of what I choose

baby is still growing well and wriggling heaps

hope everyone else is doing well

[MossbackMeadow]

Emmaline - you get that sugar under control girlfriend! Keep us posted.

One of my favorite pregnancy nutrition sites is www. blueribbonbaby.com - Dr. Brewer.

All is well here, just starting to feel a little slow and weary. My weight gain is within bounds, not out of control like my last pregnancy. Trying to get lots of protein, water, and barley juice. Still walking, and looking forward to it. Tummy is QUITE big. Other kids are amused by watching my belly for kicks and punches. I'm cleaning out the basement today and we moved the cradle upstairs - oh my gosh - it's really becoming real! How far along are we now Emmaline - about 26 weeks?

MM

[emmaline]

yes 26 weeks already MM! hard to believe

I've read the Brewer site and have been really trying to up the protein - hard after years of believing low protein was a good thing

we've also been digging out babystuff (what we had left after giving most away) and I finished making a beautiful sling. I would like to do a little knitting for this midwinter babe before the old carpal tunnel kicks in (it has both times previously) but when I sit still for a while I fall asleep:zzz

yesterday I saw a friend who thought I looked big enough to be due now!! I have gained about 6 kilos but mostly boobs and belly so am looking pretty big too.

are you still thinking uinassisted MM? I'm at the opposite end of the spectrum with a scheduled c-birth... mostly I'm resigned but I found a lovely kids picture book at the library today about a homebirth and it really got me teary about how it should be

I got to hold a newborn recently - wow they are small, I'm sure all the how-to stuff will come back in a flash though

[MossbackMeadow]

Emmaline,
Please refresh my memory about your births - why the c-section?

Now put your seatbelt on. We're going for a long ramble. : )

I secretly wanted a homebirth with my first ( 1990). I was going to a large group practice, and I remember taking in a birth plan I wrote in which I said I wanted to walk around, no monitor, no iv, etc. The doc. looked at me and said, "This is a hospital, we're not running a birth center here lady." Later on, about 7 or 8 months, dh and I took a hospital tour. We were told that babies were not allowed to room in until after the first 12 hours. Yikes! I told dh I was not going there to have my baby. I got on the phone and somehow tracked down a lay midwife who lived way back in a woods, very hippy. I saw her a couple times, and we had a great birth at home. Same with the others. I'm just scared to go to the hospital. I think hospital routines cause more problems than they prevent -- I think of the billions of women who have been giving birth for thousands of years -- we're built for it, and it should be instinctive if we let it. I don't want people standing around watching me, any more than I want them watching me when I'm going to the bathroom or having an orgasm. I think it upsets the hormonal cocktail that causes an ejection reflex. If the doctor could just be there in a lifeguard capacity, instead of trying to manage, that would be ideal.

If you're still reading this manifesto, please don't take it to mean that homebirth is the only way to go. I just believe there should be options to choose from, and that moms should be informed of risks - and that lay midwifery shouldn't be illegal as it is here.

Whatever the process, I hope we're all holding healthy newborns this summer, and I can't wait to read everyone's continuing adventures!

MM

[Jacque Savageau]

MM, It sounds like you've really thought this out well! I too would love to have had homebirths. But, with my medical history and complications it just wasn't wise. However, I do think it's actually healthier and safer for most women.

emmaline, glad to hear from you! I had GD with two of my pregnancies. I was able to controll it very well with diet. All I can say is BEANS - LOTS and LOTS of BEANS! they seem to be the perfect food for GD. I have an awsome recipe for frech green beans with mustard sauce.

Also, tofu and other soy products. It's known that glucose levels actually go down after consuming a soy product. It's beleived that the naturally occuring Estrogin helps maintain glucosse levels.

Maybe a breakfast of soymilk on whole grain cereal with some Orange Juice. Lunch of mixed veggies and some lentil soup. Dinner of baked Tofu with a nice sauce over brown rice - a nice leafy green salad.

Snack on soynuts throughout the day and other nuts. Don't be concerned with high fats right now - fat grows brain cells in baby!

If you do have GD, it takes about 2 weeks after birth for your body to regulate again. You'll want to continue watching your diet.

Best to all of you!

[kaje62]

Hey all. Emaline and Abilyte thinking of you. Mossback, I want to know what this barley juice is though and Ms. Mom please share the green bean recipe. I love green beans. Because of Charlie weighing 9.15 and me being a bigger girl, I have to have three glucose tests. I passed the first but do not look forward to the next two.

I am leaning towards a VBAC but I get so scared every once awhile and at my last visit. I was told because of the possiblity of my next babe being even bigger than Charlie it could be more risky.

I am about 21 weeks and no movements yet.

Anyway Magdala, do we have a new babe????

[emmaline]

MM - I so agree with you and wish it could have worked out differently for me.

Story of my c-births :
with ds1 I was planning a birth centre experience, the only one available within cooee was in a big maternity hospital. I had some heart problems from early on and in the last few weeks also developed a shocking case of PUPPP. This was when I started to think it wasn't going too well. At two weeks overdue and with these complications I was no longer eligible for the birth centre and my OB believed induction was required. I was a wreck after a month of total body severe rash (in hot summer)and almost no sleep in consequence and agreed. Ds was big and persistently posterior, he never even engaged in my pelvis and after 18 hrs no progress in induced labour I had a c/s

with ds 2 he was clearly not such a big baby and things were looking good for a VBAC, also no heart probs this time. But around due date pre-eclampsia jumped me and I had an emergency c/s, turned out he was face presentation too

now I know about women having VBACs after more than one c/s but the insurance scenario here is such that none of the OBs around that I know of will consider it, I'm ineligible for any birth centre and (even if I were considering it) most homebirth midwives lost their insurance cover here last year, there is one homebirth doc who is plagued by those who would have him deregistered and you'd have to say the options aren't wonderful!

it's not right, but it's the current scenario and unlikely to change anytime soon

Jacque - thanks for the info, I am already a great bean and soy person plus I am a fisheater and have upped my protein intake a lot. Nuts and brown rice are on the menu frequently also. Do post your beans in mustard sauce!

KJ - good luck to you with further tests - do you follow a GD-type diet to reduce risk of glucose intolerance? I read somewhere (possibly Kmom) about doing that to have the best chance of passing the tests!

[MossbackMeadow]

Em - gosh - it sounds like you didn't have the births you had planned on, but you coped and had good outcomes, and in a way I'm sort of envious, in that you're prepared for any eventuality. I'm not. A surgical birth is always something that happens to "somebody else," and I'm not mentally prepared for the possibility should it arise. I think I would be paralyzed with fear.

KJ - Barley juice is just one "green drink" that is available in powedred form at the health food store. I don't know if it's actually doing me any good, but hey, any mental boost towards health is a good one, right? :p

Nik's Mommy - are you still hanging in with us this week?Those first 12 weeks do seem endless at times. Abylite?

Ms Mom - keep up the yummy meal suggestions. I'm declaring you the resident nutritionist.!

:D
Out the door for my walk. - MM

[kaje62]

okay when I read about the green beans yesterday around a 1 p.m. I ate a bagel and the craving went away and now it is not even 8:00 in the morning and I want them now. You all are in trouble. I want them please!!!!!!!!!!

I understand C-sections and how hard it all can be but I love my little guy. I hired a doula, took bradley, natural pregancy positions for labor etc. and then I found out he was breech (lotus position) 3 days before my due date and we tried a version, chiropractic, moxi and cranial sacral and he did not turn and then my water broke so Charlie came to be with us.

[Jacque Savageau]

Hi ladies, I'm in a bit of a rush, I'll get that bean recipe up later this afternoon. Just wanted you to know I'm here and listening to all of you! I feel like a grandmother waiting for her children to give birth! Does that make any sence at all?:confused:

[MossbackMeadow]

Hi Granny Mom!

KJ - Charlie's arrival is one of those reasons we are all glad that medical interventions are available when needed! Lotus position? Ouch! I can see why the prospect of labor is a bit daunting. It's a really strange position that we are all in - there is no way out of this except through it.

Well, I closed my last message by saying I was heading out for walk. What a mess. An inch of snow, ice underneath, my hips were killing me, I ended up falling down. Came home, cried a few tears of self pity :crying and went back to bed. Got up later and went to chiropractor. Feeling better now! Isn't it amazing how e can go from "I am woman, hear me roar" to a babbling mess in a matter of minutes???? :confused:

Now, I've really got to do something about this 5 ft high pile of ironing. . . . .. . .:(

[kaje62]

Oh MossBack I am so sorry. Take a nice bath. And by the way Mr. Lotus weighed 9.15 and was 22 3/4 inches tall.

[emmaline]

MM :crying in sympathy, snow seems so attractive to me but I can appreciate the hazards it brings, hope you're up and roaring again soon (where's the roaring mama smilie?). And yes my births were tough experiences but we all do what we have to get those babies born - and I've worked for many years in hospitals so they are not so scarey to me (though in some ways more scarey but I know some about surviving in them). I think you would find that if it was the only way to get your baby safely born that you wouldn't be paralysed with fear, you would just do the necessary. The thing I'm not prepared for is a normal birth!

but.. what is this "ironing" you mention?? we don't have that in my house:nut

KJ I can see why VBAC looks daunting, you can only do what seems best to you at the time :hug

[emmaline]

hey ladies I passed the glucose tolerance test! and I feel much better for cutting down on sugar nad refined foods so I'm planning to stick to the GD diet anyway... except for maybe a few chocolate easter bilbies as many of us prefer to have here (rabbits are a pest in Australia and bilbies are a very fetching alternative to the easter bunny - fluffy little native marsupials with big ears) though they don't lay eggs but neither do rabbits??

http://users.netconnect.com.au/Easter_Bilby/default.html

read about the easter bilby if you like!

[SpiralWoman]

Hi all~
congrats Emmaline! when I passed my sugar test right before my Bday & valentines day I was very relievd, then of course I went on a terrible 2 wk chocolate binge- OOPS! :eek gained 9 lbs during the 3 wks between the test & my next MW appt. oh well, I like to think of my life long sweet tooth like an athlete being in training- I've been building sugar endurance, not intolerance. At least that's how I'd like to look @ it ( I know It really doesn't work that way)

So everyone, I am 33 wks now & I guess this is really happening! We had a fun baby shower this last wkend & got lots of baby stuff. People kept talking this & that about the baby, but inside I kept thinking "well, we'll see what happens" as if to be happy about the baby was counting my chickens before they hatch, KWIM? It is just so hard for me Not to say "I still just can't believe it" I mean, I know I've got this big baby inside me, but I still can't believe I am going to really *have* a baby/ be a mommy. Is that just a normal 1st-time-mom-thing or is it bcz of how long we struggled with the infertility after the MC? Don't know if it really matters why, I just hate that ambivalent, un-faithful feeling. I think the shower was just a very overwhelming experience, so today I am trying to get back in touch with my daily routine, eating good & taking care of us, etc.

Hope everyone is feeling great, I know XM is a few wks ahead of me~ anybody else heading into their last weeks/ months?

blessings, maria

[emmaline]

maria : building sugar endurance:LOL

I know I've got this big baby inside me, but I still can't believe I am going to really *have* a baby/ be a mommy. Is that just a normal 1st-time-mom-thing or is it bcz of how long we struggled with the infertility after the MC?

I don't know how "normal" 1st time mums feel because I had two m/c before ds1 but I certainly felt like you, that I couldn't take anything for granted. In fact I never had a baby shower etc for this reason, I guess I didn't want to draw too much attention to myself and my baby or something, tempting the gods. Ambivalence seems realistic to me.

[Jacque Savageau]

I too had loses before my son was born. I have to say seeing him squirming and his eyes pop open baffled me - he was SO REAL!

I knew he was real, but what a shock it was to see him! The first thing I said was "can I keep him?". I ket telling people for weeks that I was waiting for his mother to come and take him home.

Emmaline - I'm so glad about your test! One less thing to worry about! How are you feeling now?

SpiralWoman - gosh I LOVE your user name! 33 weeks - yes, that 's a pretty real kid in there! I think your feelings are very normal.

The shower sounds lovely. I'm glad you got to experince that. How are you feeling otherwise?

I havn't heard from XM in AGES! I'm worried about her! Anyone know how she's doing? I'm going to PM her now.

OceanMommy, can you check in too?

[MossbackMeadow]

<<<read about the easter bilby if you like!<<

Emmaline, not quite as cute as an Easter bunny, but there is something endearing about it!

Congrats on passing your test. I'm having a bowl of homemade granola with raspberries in your honor.

Spiral - I know how you feel - this is #4 and I still can't believe we're going to have a baby. I think we always want to hold something back on the offchance that things won't turn out the way we envision. Since I have my babies at home, i think I have double the reservations.

28 weeks now - I'm having a terrible time sleeping. I have 50 pillows on my bed, can't seem to get enough air. I'm a real grump at bedtime.
A weird thing - I can still see my waistline when I look in the mirror from the front. This baby is like a basketball, and I've gained weight in my thighs and butt, but seemingly, nowhere else.

[emmaline]

MM - bilby not as cute as Easter bunny??? what about those big furry ears? I guess cute bunnies have done so much damage to hte environment that it's hard for me to see them as totally inoffensive though we did have a pet rabbit for years who was pretty cute if somewhat psychotic (she bit people she didn't like so had to be kept in a big old converted wooden playpen.). Bunnies and bilbies aside it sounds like you're exhausted. I hope "looking after pregnant mother" is featuring on the homeschool curriculum for your kids.

[MossbackMeadow]

Today is my due date from my miscarriage last September. : ( Who would that baby have been? How would life have been different?

Battling a bad cold tonight - and I got through winter without one!

Really really stuck on names, should this be a little boy. We can't find one thing that we both like or agree on.

29 weeks and 3 days now.

How is everyone doing?

[emmaline]

MM those anniversary dates are hard :( :hug

colds suck, I've just had one too, hope you feel better soon, are you sleeping any better?

I'm 29 weeks and 4 days but it's already tomorrow here?

can't complain too much - the kids are on 2 weeks school holidays and we've just been staying on top of a mountain for a few days, a beautiful "ski village" (no snow till winter though!) with snow gums and fabulous views

tomorrow they go to stay with my sil and bil for 2 days and dh and I get couple time!!! outrageous huh?

physically I'm getting BIG but feeling OK :belly

in a couple of days I'm meeting with one of the midwives at the hospital where the birth will be happening, I have some "issues" to discuss from last time... and need to make sure they will not be sticking needles in my baby without my permission - I've just learned that Hep B vax is "recommended" on day one - I don't think so!!

we're discussing names but not getting anywhere fast and i won't divulge my faves anyway:p

[kaje62]

MMM, 50 pillows, is that the truth?

Spiralwoman, we are cheering you on.

I have seen XM in some other threads so I think she is okay.

I passed my first glucose test. They are making me do three cuz Charlie weighed 9.15, I am a big girl and diabetes runs in our family. The only good news is I learned I can drink cranberry juice instead of that dang orange stuff.

I so relate to fears. I am afraid to buy newborn diapers in case the babe dies in labor or something. I am planning a VBAC but I am so scared. I found a terrible sight that listed babies who died from uterine rupture. Anyway I think when I meet with my doula soon it will help.

I am not doing Heb Vax until this babe is five years old. I did ds at 18 months.

[MossbackMeadow]

KJ,
Ok, only NINE pillows on my queen sized bed -- I exaggerated!

:raz

Today I noticed the first baby hiccups of this pregnancy. How cute!
Dug out the old diapers out of the rag bag to wash up, and ordered a few new ones online.

Have a cold this week but am feeling good. I can't wait to meet this little person, but want to stay pregnant at the same time.

Love,
MM

[magdala]

BIRTH ANNOUNCEMENT!!!!

I'm very happy to let you all know that I sit here with a little baby girl in my arms as I write this!!!! I am ashamed to admit it has taken me a month to get to a computer again after her birth as our little "Birth Bubble" of joy and amazement has been in full effect (I think I brushed my teeth for he first time today as well...:D ).
Little Kamala Lily was born on March 26th , 7lbs, 15 oz, in our bed at home, and immediately pooped all over me and nursed simultaneously - very talented!
I am still in shock that I really was able to give birth to a healthy little being completely naturally at our little cabin in the woods- it is truly a blessing which I extend out to all of you - you are constantly in my prayers , and we couldn't have done it without you- I really believe that to be the case, as it gave me the courage and peace of mind to try again after sharing on these boards.
Another note - Kamala arrived on the 26th of March, and I had found out I was pregnant the first time around on March 27th the year before. well little love has woken so I must flee- thanks and blessings and all my love, jessa

kjo- i was registered as magda before so search for my story under that-
-i'll check back in to see how you are all dong- perhaps a tribe could contiue out of this amazing group. love and luck.

[emmaline]

finally a birth announcement here!

magdala - how absolutely wonderful, congratulations on Kamala's birth in your bed in your cabin in the woods, how perfect :love :love

[Jacque Savageau]

I have tears of joy! Thank you, thank you for sharing and peace and joy to you and your family.

What a lucky little girl to be born to a mother who trusted her instincts and had the courage to try again.

What joyous news - congratulations and peace.

[MossbackMeadow]

Magda,
What an emotional day it must have been for you. I'm so glad you were able to hole up and enjoy your birth bubble. She's going to grow up so fast - hold onto this special time with your family.
:balloons

[kaje62]

Oh Magdala. congrats you are so beautiful. now we want photos!

[emmaline]

gee things are quiet on this thread lately - is that because everyone is doing well and growing wonderful babies and the anxiety factor is receding? I hope so

I'm nesting and knitting and trying to get my house in order (a losing battle but I have a need to try) and making nursing nighties and eating nourishing soups - it's getting cooler here

how is everyone else?

[OceanMomma]

Hey Magdala!!! Congrats on your little babe & peaceful birth. Kamala is a beautiful name.

Pleased to check in & see everyone else is OK & hanging in there :)

I'm OK too. Got extremely low blood pressure & co-incidentally, yet another baby on a soap opera over here has mysteriously died shortly after birth of GBS. This is no s**t, a month before Saffron was due we had a baby die on coronation street of GBS. I don't watch TV but get told these things. Now on Shortland street this little new born baby died yesterday of GBS. The scarey thing is they don't test us over here as it is so rare so they don't bother. I'm wondering whether to request a test or not.

Other than my GBS quandry, I'm busy knitting diaper covers in this funky rainbow coloured yarn I dyed. Desperately trying to decide if I can actually make a sling. I tie dyed some nappies the other day. I'm about to start taking my PN6 & look out some high dose evening primrose oil so I don't go over dates. My lovely home birth MW is going on holiday in July so I don't want the back up MW instead.

[MossbackMeadow]

Hey all,
I wondered where everybody went! I think today is 32 weeks for me.

OM - at what week are you going to start taking the E. Primrose Oil? I took that with my 2nd baby and had the fastest easiest labor every. I was planning on starting it maybe a month before my due date.

I'm trying to get my house ready too., Ordered some new cloth diapers and got them washed. Trying not to let clutter build up. OUr life has been consumed with our livestock and outdoor work these past couple weeks. Yesterday I got slammed in the stomach by a wooden gate which was shoved by a hog when I was giving it an injection. Everything seems to be fine though.
Now we are experiencing days and days of rain, so I can concentrate on the inside for a while. Still need to find a little used dresser for baby things.

Our homeschooling efforts are fizzling out for the year - just can't keep everyone motivated. In the next few weeks we have piano recitals, summer swim season starting again, and 2 children coming to stay for 10 days.

Emmaline - what sort of soup are you making? I've been a soup mode myself lately. Had pea soup yesterday, this morning am working on sourdough bread. Hey! I see you have a birthday already planned for your little one. Time is flying!

Happy knitting to you all. I think I'm beyond that - ready to pack up all the sewing and knitting supplies and get them out of my dining room for a while.

MM

[emmaline]

OM good to hear from you. I just hate it when babies and kids are written awful things in any media, it's too distressing, can't they think up less horrible story lines :crying
is yr low BP sorted out? I hope you get to have the mw you like - I forget when your baby is due?
rainbow dyed knitted covers sound gorgeous
I made a sling from a pattern someone here recommended - it was trickier than I thought esp sewing thru so many layers to attach the rings - and I had big trouble finding rings - but it looks great if you want the link I can find it

MM I cook up a mixture of lentils, beans, barley and split peas then toss in lots of vegies and garlic (wow a few months ago I couldn't even type that word without heaving) and tomatoes and herbs then when it's cooked a big chunk of miso and some lemon juice and parsely yum :yum slurp up with some sourdough sprouted wheat bread
we need something to keep the baby clothes in too but nowhere to put another chest of drawers, our house is full to bursting, time for another purge of STUFF

my knitting is seriously stuffed up! I misread the pattern and now have to pull out heaps:(

and I still control the kitchen table for sewinganother nursing nightie or two :wild

[Jacque Savageau]

OM - I've been worried sick about you :hug SOOOOOOO glad to hear your doing ok.

Low blood pressure can often be a sign of low Iron. Try to bump up your protein and leafy greens. I'll send healthy, on-time baby vibes your way.

That baby on the soap just broke my heart. I can only imagine how scarry that must have been for you :hug. How is Saffron doing? So many changes going on in your life. I do hope you and your family are doing well.

The diaper coveres sound devine! I made a sling and it was REALLY easy! I even sewed some pockets on it and never needed a purse or diaper bag. Just strapped on baby and away I went!

MM - the soup sounds WONDERFUL! I'm a soup FEIND! I love to make HUGE pots and freeze them. My sourdough never does turn out? you'll have to give me some pointers!

Take it easy out side! That must have been a scare the other day. The homebirth sounds so peaceful. Your baby is so lucky to be comming into so much love! Don't worry about the schooling. You're kids are learning just by being with you :hug

emmaline, as your cool season begins, the summer heat is around the corner for us. Like MM, we've had horrid rains and even a few Tornado's. I hope the humidity has broken and your begining to feel more comfortable.

Keep taking care of yourself and know I'm thinking of you :hug

XM? Waiting for news!

[XM]

:rolleyes:

Still here, still pregnant... still cranky.

XM

[Eman'smom]

I'm a bit late but congratulations Magdala, what great news. :D

I'm here and have made it past half way. 21+ weeks. I go in for an ultrasound on Thursday to check on organ development. I'm amazed at how differently I view technology, between almost lossing our son to liver failure as a newborn and then the miscarriage, suddenly the piece of mind I get from some technology is winning out.

Don't worry XM, spawn will be here soon enough.

[Jacque Savageau]

Congrats and :hug's, it is amazing how an ultrasound seemed so intrusive before we lost our children. I totally understand what your saying.

How are you feeling otherwise? I'm really happy for you.

XM - if your cranky I know you're ok! :LOL

[emmaline]

eman'smom - I think a lot of us feel the same about technology - sometimes it really is useful (still stresses me out to have ultrasounds though). Congrats on 21+ weeks :hug

XM :hug how about a cyber foot massage? (no smilie for that)

[Eman'smom]

I have really come to terms with ultrasound, doppler, and blood tests on me, no amino thanks. Even though I have a bit of worry over the tests, it pales in comparision to the worry about the baby being alright. Since I now realize that I won't be able to relax without "knowing" things are ok. I'm just accepting a bit of risk. I figure the stress and worry is worse for the baby.

This post makes me sound like I'm in every week, but I've had HCG's and one other ultrasound. Just not what I thought I'd do.

But your right, after a loss things change.

[kaje62]

XM we are rooting for you.

Ms. Mom still awaiting the bean recipe

but now I am craving Emmalines soup!! which by the way we need a thread to help her with her senior name change.

[Jacque Savageau]

:o Forgot about the recipe! I made it this weekend for company.

One red/spanish onion - cut in half and drizzle with Olive Oil. Sprinkle with salt and pepper and put a few sprigs of fresh rosemary. Put it back together and wrap in tin foil. Bake at 375 for about 45 min. (untill soft, but not mushy).

In a bowl mix about 2-3 Tbs. of Dijon Mustard, 1 Tea of Vinagar (I like citrus vinagars) and a dash of olive oil. Wisk and set aside.

Use fresh French style green beans (they're the best for this). steam them lightly - keep them crunchy!

When the Onion cools, cut Julian style. Add the liquid from the cooked onion to the mustard and whisk well. Add the onions and coat generously.

Pour over the beans and mix well. I like to arrange the beans and onions so that they're all going in the same direction. It looks so WONDERFUL with the purple/red onion and fresh green beans.

Refridgerate for at least an hour and serve cold. It tastes great the next day, but 2 days later it get's a bit mushy.

[emmaline]

jacque those beans sound wonderful! I have a big pile of green beans and a spanish onion waiting ...

KJ I love my soup too but my menfolks only pretend to appreciate it :crying they dutifully push it around their plates and ingest a little only

re senior name : I'm not sure what characterises me anymore! so senior is OK for now - I'll dutifully consider a naming thread though

[OceanMomma]

mmmm that green bean recipe sounds yummy. Kinda like a cut down version of a nicoise salad, which I always like the sound of except the thought of the tuna puts me off big time. I get green bean cravings when I'm pregnant so I'll see if I can find some when I'm shopping today. Maybe some nice sourdough bread or crunchy french bread to go with it..... yummy :D

Talking of cravings. Does anyone find their taste buds totally change when pg? Dh is big on apples, fejoias & chocolate. None of which I normally eat. Fejoias taste like spew to me. Well I've been eating apples big time this pg & the other day I got him some organic fejoias as the season has just started. Saffron seems to be very fond of them as well. Anyways I tried one & it tasted divine :confused: Sometimes I feel like I've been taken over by an alien ;) All I can say is thank goddess I haven't picked up his love of KFC!!!!

On the good side, 6 weeks to go tomorrow - yay! I've found myself an acupuncturist so I'm going weekly. I'm off to look for some good strong evening primrose oil today & started taking my Dr Christopher PN6 stuff today. I still get pangs of freak out when I have to do something like actually look for baby clothes or wash new nappies, but all in all I'm hanging in there. I feel too large to run away right now ;) I'm very worried about how poor Saffron is going to cope with another baby around. I've tried talking to her about it but she insists on thinking I'm talking about my belly button.

[emmaline]

cravings... now no one faint but my major craving is for bacon and eggs, yes fried, and I feel like I've totally gone over to the dark side by going with this. I do feel better for more protein but bacon and eggs for this very long time vego is drastic. I do eat them with organic sourdough sprouted wheat bread if that helps.. I wonder if it will persist post-preg? if only it were as benign as feijoas (I love them!)

OM have you tried telling Saffron a story about someone a bit like herself who gets a baby sister? might help. I used to tell ds1 lots of stories about a boy like him who did all the tricky things before ds had to do them (like go to kinder or stay overnight with his auntie), giving him room to add to the story too..

I've been having the occasional freak out too, the "you must be mad to think this is all going to work out OK" inner voice:( and hoping I will have "enough" to manage if things are less than good in any way.

[OceanMomma]

I've tried all the stories & showing her little babies but she still thinks it's a belly button we're talking about. Alanna reckons she's just in denial & does really know. She has started looking more closely at little babies recently so who knows.

As to the bacon & eggs. hmmm.... Can't say as I've had that one at all. I never was a big bacon eater when I ate meat which could explain it. They do some fake bacon here ( which is made in Ozzie ) called Not Bacon that I can get in the supermarket. Dh eats it without complaining. I use it to make him bacon & egg pies & also bacon sarnies. You can fry it up so it gets all crunchy as well. Otherwise just try to make sure it's organic bacon as they put some evil chemicals & growth hormones in those pigs.

That inner voice is wierd. Not sure about you but I never, ever thought in a million years I'd end up with 3 children. I always felt amazingly lucky to have had Saffron. So I s'pose part of the inner voice is the result of that. Like why am I this lucky ? Really it's like I've won lotto or something. I just think I'm dreaming some days.

[emmaline]

OM we are regular users of Not Bacon! the fellas love it but my craving is worse than that - luckily a local organic grocery stocks organic bacon too

that's funny about the belly button thing, I hope she won't get too much of a shock to see you weren't kidding. Were you planning for S to be at the birth?

I always thought I'd have afew kids, no specific number. My mum was so prolific and had so few problems I naievely thought it would be like that for me. It was only after two m/c and so many unexpected things around Alex's birth, then years when I didn't conceive for no apparent reason that I started to think one might be IT and I was pretty crazy for a while. One just didn't seem like a family to me. Daniel was (and is) very healing for me and I would have been fine at having two kids - I truly believed there were no more children waiting for me. This pregnancy (and the one I lost last year) really did take me by surprise. I feel like I have to be prepared for any outcome - hence that voice popping up when I start feeling too positive - I don't trust my luck. I hope in about 6 weeks we'll both be posting about our births and crowing about our gorgeous babies

and likewise for all the other special women who come here with so many complex feelings :grouphug

[Jacque Savageau]

OM - it's so good to have you back :hug - I've missed you!

And what's a feijoas? I know, dumb American!

[OceanMomma]

lol! not dumb! Lots of ppl here don't know what they are either as they tend to grow more in the warmer areas of the country. Like up in Auckland virtually everyone's Granny seemed to have had a bush in their backyard that they can remember stuffing their faces with the fejoias off when they were kids.

They're a fruit. Kinda shaped like a skinny kiwi fruit maybe ( help me out here Emmaline ) but with a soft smooth green skin that isn't edible. You chop them in half & scoop out the insides. They're very sweet when they are ripe & have this complex almost perfumed flavour, which prior to me being pg, seemed to have undertones of spew aroma. Of course, now I think they're divine. You can make cakes with them too. I think JW even posted a fejoia cake recipe a few months ago I must dig out to use the over ripe ones for.

[kaje62]

thanks for the recipe
charlie loves green beans!

dh is not fond of my lentil soups and such but loves any with chicken or beef. Go figure. I only use organic meat though.

OM. I just love the name Saffron!!! I think Thyme is good for a guy too. And I can not eat fish or chocolate pregnant. But last preganncy I went nuts for sour cream raisin pie. Have not had it sense. EEWW!

OM you need a senior name too. Maybe it will come to us after your babes arrive for you and Emmaline.

I have my 2nd diabetest test today. They are making me do three cuz Cha weighed 9.15. GRRR!

[emmaline]

http://www.feijoa.co.nz/FrameFeijoa.html

more than you ever wanted to know about feijoas!

Kiwis come over here and just die for them - but you have to know someone (or their granny) who has a bush growing in their backyard.... but Melbourne is a bit cool really

that perfumy taste is an acquired one - definitely a slight tendency to smell spewy esp if overripe I reckon - but I love them

[kaje62]

Went to my prenatal today. Gained 3 pounds, I have not gained anything so far. So I am 28 weeks and up 3 pounds total. I had my 2nd glucose test. I still have to have one more as Charlie weighed 9.15 and they don't want me to have too big of a baby with a VBAC. My blood pressure was good as usual and my iron was quite low. I am not faithful to my 6 prenatals as they make me feel icky but I ate beets for lunch today. Meeting with another doula Monday, she was DoulaSara's doula and she highly recommends her. She has quite a bit of VBAC experience also. I don't know if I mentioned but my friend Teresa is unavailable now.

[emmaline]

having a :bawl the last few days

not too sure what it's all about, general loss of plot, water keeps coming out of my eyes

....

[MossbackMeadow]

:crying :crying :crying :crying :crying

Sorry Emmaline. Just offering a sympathy cry . . .

[emmaline]

thanks MM

I need to steer clear of reading birth threads esp traumatic ones :crying

on reflection there is a mixture of anxiety about the birth and the recovery time

also my parents coming to stay, some "issues" as they say

and the big one "will my baby be OK" which hasn't worried me before(previous pregnancies), I think it's the risk stats for "older"mothers getting to me

[MossbackMeadow]

Hmmm, well, let's have a cup of tea and a talk. You can do the same for me when *I* have my next bad day!

1. Will baby be ok? - well, most likely. You've come this far! And if not . . . . . . . you'll deal with it. You've been eating well and taking care of yourself, the rest is in God's hands.

2. Recovery - why don't you look at it as some enforced vacation time. You actually *get* to stay in bed and rest with baby. OUr Western culture is so hung up on women popping back up right away in the their tightest jeans. Let people take care of you and just enjoy. It's such a short time.

3. Parents coming. Hmm. Could be stressful. Perhaps you could make some lists of household things you'd like done. Make clear your expectation that they should take care of you, and let you take care of the baby. Stock up on paper plates, which will make hostessing easier. Let them spoil your older kids, maybe take them on some outings, while you snooze with baby. My mom stayed a few days when I had oldest dh and it was wonderful - she washed baseboards and did all sorts of housework that i wouldn't have dreamed of.

This tea is making me sleepy emma. It's time to go play my nightly game of *toss and turn."

[emmaline]

I keep trying to reply sensibly but it's not working and I have to be in one piece to be with the boys after school

[emmaline]

http://mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=61483

[Jacque Savageau]

I know, I've got goosbumps! I can't belive how emotionally attached I've become. I actually cried when I read that post!

XM - I hope you can feel our cyber hugs to you and your sweet son. See, we were right :wink I can't wait to hear from you!

Love to all of you!

[emmaline]

well I've been :crying over heaps of posts lately but XM's baby boy just left me a blubbering wreck - no detachment here

[Jacque Savageau]

:hug to you emmaline, I know I'll feel the same way for you and all the women here!

[kaje62]

Oh I am so happy. I cannot wait to see pictures!

[its_our_family]

I'm here!!! but i'm only 4.5 weeks. We found out monday that I'm pregnant!

How things are going.....

Dh is slowly accepting the idea. This wasn't on purpose and I was starting to get excited about a yr or two where we could get a sitter for ds every once in awhile. Time that dh and I could become something close to an actual couple! One that has a toddler playing in the sand and mom and dad are on the beach towel talking about going out next weekend. I guess not much will change but even I was getting excited about a certain amount of freedom.

The past couple months...since the m/c in november...I have been feeling like crap as soon as I ovulate. I have severe nausea, dizzy spells, loose bowels, I can't sleep, I'm exhausted, cravings...you name it I've been experiencing it! We started going to the chiro 3x a week because my back is in bad shape. So, once I was 10dpo I notcied how great I felt! I thought...maybe its from the chiro. Eventually I would start to feel better but I thought it would take longer. I had some odd cravings of mustard :) but thats it. Then sunday I started having MAJOR hotflashes that were lasting close to 45 minutes at a time. So, I started adding things up. And monday after my parents went home after visiting I tested. That second FRER line showed in about 35 seconds and I almost fell off the toilet!

I told dh monday night...he shook his head in disbelief. He's still a little numb about it and wants to wait to tell. Which is fine BUT I started showing really really early with ds because of my body build and I'm afraid he'll still not want to tell and it'll be obvious!

Then today I backed out of the driveway and scraped up the side of the car....I hit the fence. When I told dh he said....you MUST be pregnant!!

So far things are completely opposite from Sweetpea. I have no nausea and I feel great! My breasts have quadrupled...which they never did with Sweetpea but they did with Tracy. And my hair is already thicker!

So, I think this is a sticky baby...and I feel better about it this time too!!

Anyway, so far that is my pregnancy!!

[emmaline]

best wishes to you megan, it sounds like things are going well :love

[its_our_family]

double....

[kaje62]

its_our_family

welcome!

[MossbackMeadow]

:firedevil I thought the evil hemmoroid fairy was going to bypass me this pregnancy. No such luck. Ei yi yi. THis has nothing to do with my digestive tract, which is just fine, it's just too much time on my feet and too much pressure down below. Went shopping yesterday and then sat on bleachers to watch the kids swim and that put me over the edge.

I've been running around like a chicken with my head cut off these past two weeks -too busy, not enough time resting. This afternoon we're having a very informal little birthday party for my current baby who is turning 7 years old! And tonight we're off to go swing dancing - that should be a sight. :p

I don't think baby is engaged ( 35 weeks) because I still have lots of side to side movement and sometimes it feels like baby is head down and another baby is sideways. ( !) I haven't had an ultrasound so I don't know what's in there for sure. This morning I had feet under my ribs, and it's just hard to get comfortable - but it's all wonderful at the same time.:love

[kaje62]

MM, wow sorry about that but so cool you are so close. By the way, where are you in the midwest?

[its_our_family]

When do the worries go away???

I lost Sweetpea 4 days after the test turned positive...I've made it farther than that but I've started to worry today. I had been doing so good but for some reason today I can't help it.

I'm not sure if I'm afraid to think it'll happen or what. I'm sure thats it...I'm so ready for the next 7 weeks to be over! then at least I'll be out of the first tri!

[emmaline]

megan getting past the time when you've had a loss is often the hardest but for me it only gets a little better after that. I calmed down a bit more after about 20 weeks but lots of anxieties have been surfacing lately :( sorry that doesn't sound very encouraging

you can only do your best on a day to day basis I reckon - sometimes minute to minute!

[witchbaby]

howdy.
i'm lorrie, pregnant for the third time with baby d, after a missed miscarriage (detected at 11w4d, followed by a d&c 2 weeks later) and an early miscarriage (found out i was pregnant with extremely low levels on a tuesday, started bleeding on thursday). i got pregnant again only a couple weeks after the early miscarriage and have been scared witless since.
since i was under the care of an r.e., i got several u/s to make sure everything was progressing well, then had an awful bleeding episode that made me sure we'd lost the baby. after a horrible trip to the er and a night trying to deal with this loss, the next morning, at an emergancy u/s, we saw a heartbeat! a week later, there were questions about a mass next to the babe, which proceeded to disapear by the next u/s. the most likely reason for the bleeding (and explanation of the disapearing mass) is vanishing twin syndrome. i'm still trying to deal with that loss, because not only am i not entirely sure it WAS a twin, i am still ecstatically happy i have THIS babe.
i am 10w3d now, but haven't gotten over my fear of losing this babe. since we discovered our first had died at our routine ob appointment when we were supposed to hear the heartbeat, i am terrified the same will happen at our next appointment on june 18. i keep trying to relax, since we've seen a good strong heartbeat (163 bpm at 7w4d!) and a wiggly little baby (at 9w), but i keep coming up with reasons to scare myself. on this board and on journals i read, several women have seen the heartbeat earlier in pregnancy and went on to lose the babe, even though the chance of miscarriage after heartbeat detection is 2%. i know i should stop reading stuff that might upset me, but i can't help it!
i have this unreasonable need to have an u/s every day so i can make sure the baby is still alive. i don't get another until 20w (for the big u/s!) unless something goes wrong-- i know i would perfer nothing go wrong and have to wait, but i spend most of my days freaking out!
woah, i wrote a book in here! i wish much love and good sticky vibes to you mamas.

[MossbackMeadow]

KJ - I'm in northwest Ohio - land of the flat!

Megan - it wasn't long ago that I joined this list last fall and found Emmaline, OceanMama and XM in the same boat as you're in right now. I had no testing or us but somehow time marched on and I got through on faith alone. I had a vanishing twin with my 3rd baby that we didn't know about till the birth. Surviving baby was strong and healthy. If you'd like to read more about this condition and how twins sometimes remember their vanished sibling, check out Elizabeth Noble's book "Having Twins."

The swing dancing last night was a scream. The kids had so much fun too. Of course I had to run home and sit on a bag of ice, but it was worth it.
:crap

MM, forever in love with dh
mom to Caleb almost 13, Lydia, 10.5 and Zane, 7.

[its_our_family]

Hi Ladies!!

I'm 6 weeks tomorrow. It feels like a milestone. I'm pretty sure I lost Sweetpea before 6 weeks.

Things seem to be moving along. I'm about ready to ditch the jeans...they give a slightly crampy feeling. I guess thye put more pressure on my tummy than I think they do!

I'm feeling ok. i was afriad of my supply but it seems to be doing better. I don't have a lot of m/s...it comes and goes throughout the day. I have a cold and my neck hurts from coughing....my bbs aren't sore anymore either...wel, as sore. I don't want to scream when ds latches on. Which is good too!

I'm starting to feel everything grow and stretch. Most of today I had this dull burning feeling. Not cramps at all. But I woke up this morning on my tummy no problem. Well, tonight I laid across my bed for a little snooze and my tummy...WAY to tender to lay on! I can feel that everything has moved and its just really weird!

Hope everyone is doing great!!

Do you guys know if XM named spawn yet??

[kaje62]

witchbaby, welcome I have two friends who also lost a twin early in pregnancy. Hang in there.

I started a new thread all this one was gettting quite long.

Come and join me.

http://216.92.20.151/discussions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=65888