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Madame Ovary
03-05-2003, 12:06 PM
Hi, Hawaii moms!
My dh and I have been hatching a plan to live in Hawaii for years, now. We've just returned home to Durango from Oregon (on a where-to-live trip), rather discouraged. Durango is really nice, but no place has ever felt as right to me as Hawaii. We've been to the big island 3 times in the last 13 years, and I went to Maui many years ago. We're trying to figure out how feasible it is to live there, and whether it would really be right for us. Living in a place is, after all, quite different from visiting!

We have 2 kids: 7year old dd, and 3.5 y.o. ds, both homebirthed, and APed from the start. We unschool, but I would send them to a good Waldorf school if I could afford it. Our dd really loved the big island when we were there last winter. Dh is a songwriter, which can be iffy financially. I am a sahm, and artist-on-hold. Our plan is to start a restaurant this summer (or autumn if we move)which would feature lower-priced sushi, local beers, sourcing from the local economy, that sort of thing. The kind of place people can have a good time, eat lots of sushi and not go broke, kwim? We garden organically (permaculture-- which works especially well in tropical environments, btw, but that's another thread!) live naturally, and are earthy, spiritual people. Dh really needs to be near the ocean in a place that doesn't get too hot, and I really need a place with lots of green, growing things that doesn't get too cold. The kids really need to be someplace they can run around barefooted a lot. Hmmmm... sound familiar? We also use natural medicines, and if we ever have another baby, we'd homebirth again.

So, given the need for like-minded people, a network of friends for home/unschooling, a market for our restaurant, the availability of natural foods/products, a midwife, a naturopath, and a little shack with room for a garden.....

Which places, which islands should we investigate?
Are there places with more or less racial hostility, which we were warned about a few years ago? (Hawaiian homelands issues?We're white as homebaked sourdough, though we wouldn't want to live around racial hostility whether directed at us or not. Living in harmony with those around us is very important.)
What places would a restaurant get lots of local business, so we wouldn't be dependant on the inconsistencies of a tourist economy? (Another reason it won't be an expensive restaurant!)
Where can people like us afford a little house without being too isolated?

Sorry this got so long, but-- whew-- we can't just jump in the car and show up in Kona!
Thanks!




BathrobeGoddess
06-20-2003, 09:00 AM
Goodeness Madame...

Maybe we should pool our resourses and move together from Co to HI. JK! Anyhow...I am also interested to know what the best area is...I am right now leaning toward the Hilo area on the Big Island...there is a Waldorf school there...

Good luck! Maybe we will meet when we both get moved...

ilovemybaby
06-24-2003, 02:36 PM
Hi ladies,

Well, I live on Maui, but I'd have to say I think it is less expensive to live on the Big Island. Other than that, I don't know much else about it. Sorry!

malamamama
06-30-2003, 06:55 PM
I only know about Big Island & Kauai as that is where I have lived and am living now.
The Big Island (East side & South side) is definitely the least expensive place to live in the islands. It is also one of the the most economically depressed...Kauai is super expensive and economically down. The Big Island would probably fulfill most of your needs.
Even if your biz is geared towards the residents, those residents are often dependent on the tourist industry for their incomes. Although there are a lot of innovative people making it. Your biz could be just what is needed/wanted there (Big Island).
On the up side, it is a beautiful place to raise children and live!!!!
On the down side, the VOG (Vapors w/heavy metals from the volcano) can be an issue, especially for kids. It is the worst on the southwest and Kona side, unless the winds change which socks the east side then.
I suggest that before you make a move, to educate yourselves about the Hawaiian Homelands issue. It is here for valid reason. The people of these islands were wronged...and not that long ago. So yes, there are people with hostility and disdain towards haolis. Whether are not they act on it or it is just felt in the undercurrent depends on where you are, who you talk with. Not all Hawaiians harbor the resentment. Still if you are coming to live in the islands, out of respect to the native peoples, come educated and with compassion. IMO, it is not ok to come to this paradise and turn your head to the problems that exist. Not that you need to get actively involved, but at least to acknowledge the roots of the problem and be able to live with everybody's perspectives is important. A book that was recommended to me by a Hawaiian man, but I have yet to read, is "The Shoals of Time". I don't prefer to live with hostility either....our paths will lead us to what we need to learn though. And I have not directly felt the hostility, but I have witnessed it.
The first time that I lived in the islands, I was single. Moving to the islands as a family was a big jump and leap of faith for us. It's not all easy, tho it's worth the sacrifices.
Good luck to you in your decision/move!!!!