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Ladies, I didn't know where else to post this, and this may not even be the right place. But babies having hiccups in utero are not what you think. For more info do a google search for....
Dr. Jason Collins "The Pregnancy Institute"
I've been through this exact thing he is describing in his research, so this is not meant to hurt anyone......only help. I just had to let everyone know.
I'm sorry for posting this......
xekomaya
09-26-2007, 06:04 PM
I'm sorry but this man is a true alarmist.
I hold a math degree with a concentration in statistics. I believe the numbers in this article were meant to deceive . I could break it all down, but I'm just so angry right now. Not at you, but that anyone could be allowed to even suggest such interventions for a complication that, according to his numbers (although many studies are poorly quoted so I be off a bit) affects .02% of term births.
It is tragic to lose even a single baby, and I understand that any mother would do whatever she can to protect her children at any stage of life, but you really must consider all aspects of this, including the extreme likely-hood (with his suggested care) and complications of premature birth, and the risks associated with cesarean birth. That isn't even to mention his daily ultrasounds from 32 weeks and the maternal stress that induces. Both sides need to be weighed when making the decision to intervene
Yuck.
I agree that this is extreme, but when you've lost a full term baby due to cord entanglement this becomes very real, and worth the risk (u/s and more monotoring).
I am fully aware that I will be monitored very strictly in the 3rd trimester *IF* I am ever able to carry another pregnancy. I'm aware that I will have ultrasounds all the time, and I'm aware that I will probably deliver at 36 weeks and NEVER be allowed to go past 37 weeks.
I willing to do all of this, why? Because my daughter died inside me at 38 weeks. She was 100% healthy, and she died. If someone had been watching me...........might I have an 18 month old right now?
I understand that lots of women here are against intervention, but when your childs life depends on it wouldn't you consider it then?
I'm not trying to cause any arguments, I just thought people should be aware of this is all.
xekomaya
09-26-2007, 08:09 PM
:hug
I didn't read all the way to the bottom and see that you had gone through this personally, just started researching where you said to look up the Dr. and got involved. In no way do I mean to cause you any more hurt, and how you manage your pregnancy is your decision. I would never ever judge you on that, and very sincerely wish you the best. We all do the best we can.
I'm just agitated about that man using misleading numbers to represent his point. It would serve all of us better to know the truth, with real math and real numbers, so that we can make informed decisions for ourselves, the best we know how.
Again, :hug
Thank you for your kind words!
Good Luck with your pregnancy mama!!!
veganf
09-29-2007, 01:19 PM
Hiccups can definitely be just hiccups. I had them in utero and all the time after I was born, as did all three of my sons in utero and after birth for the first few months. As for their cords, 1 was normal, 1 was nuchal, and 1 was a true knot. No, I would not consider a bunch of monitoring and interventions. Of course I do not want a future baby of mine to die, but I don't think hiccups are usually anything more than hiccups. There were a lot of "might" and "may" and "possibly" in his conclusions.
And I agree 100% that it is a huge "maybe" or "could be". At the same time hiccups are normal, but at what amount are they normal? I mean when a baby has them 5-6 times a day it could really be a sign of struggle to get oxygen, and you said that 1 baby had a nuchal cord and 1 had a knot. I'm am so glad that your little ones are fine, but maybe there was some struggle and those hiccups were a sign of that.
Again, I'm so glad that yours turned out to be nothing. Mine did not and I do believe that Dr. Collins has been doing this research. I think that the world needs to know about the what if's and see that this is real.
If *still birth* happens in 1/118 babies and SIDS is 1/130, then shouldn't we acknowledge that it is a problem and maybe we can learn to recognize the signs of it?
Just asking......I do think that women who have suffered this type of loss would be more appt to listening to him and his research. Not that anyone else wouldn't listen, but it hits home if your child has passed from it....kwim?
Good luck and thank you for your response.
emo1221
10-03-2007, 02:26 PM
I was acutely aware of this myself when my son was having the hiccups in the third trimester 5 or 6 times a day. i also googled and found this research but i suppose it just depends on the fetus.
he was born happy and healthy, with no knots or tangles of any kind, and still gets the hiccups almost every time he eats.
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