I want to know who is going to watch with me. Jasnjakesmama? I know you will. We will have to chat about this.

Whoo hooo! I found that show by accident. Although the one critique ( for now) that I have is that I think the rose should be given to the ladies he's NOT choosing saying something like" Parting is such sweet sorrow". Then at least they'd have a momento, don't you think?
Who do you think he should have chosen but did not? I vote for Lisa, the lawyer with the curly hair, that rescues dogs. They seemed to have a good rapport going and then he chose Rhonda instead.:eek:
I had issues with this format at first. But then I chose not to overthink it. I need some mindless fun, sort of like Survivor with clothes on.

Shall we place a wager? I vote that Trista will put the ring through his nose; he sort of lit up when he saw her. :p

I keep thinking Who would do this? I couldn't take getting rejected on national tv. But he seemed like a catch! He was cute, intelligent, nice and sweet. I am assuming he makes a good living. I would definately go for him but I see this is going to get ugly. Did you see the clips from future shows where they compare who gets kissed and who gets tongue?

I liked Lisa too. I did not like that girl from Kansas. She seems slutty to me. Who talks about buying a trapeze on national tv? If he did hook up with her, what would his parents think after seeing that? Yuck. Plus she just seems cocky.

I won't bet you because I am thinking the same thing you are, that Trista will win him. I can't wait for the next episode. I taped the first one so I will have to review it to decide if I like anyone else.

Oh I am soooo glad someone else watched this.

I heard the "I am sexually open" trapeze conversation, but fail to put a name and face to it. Was that a blonde? And did you see Alex's face when Amanda walked towards him? Her and her very ample bosum? LOL Like a kid in a candy store. Oh, what about that actress woman? She's Darva all over.

Yeah, I think Amanda the wedding consultant and Trista the nurse/cheerleader will duke it out.

She was a blonde with huge boobs in a red sparkly dress (Kansas girl). I'll try to rewatch it today and get her name.

I forgot to say that I didn't like that Amber (white blonde hair). She seemed pushy, but I felt sorry for her when she was crying because she didn't get picked.

I am not sure which ones you mentioned so I watch it again and then I'll be straight.

http://abc.abcnews.go.com/primetime/specials/bachelor/diary.html

I just looked and guess who he talked about!

Sexually open girl was Amanda.

I thought I was the only one to watch this trash, and love every minute of it! :p If I was to place a bet for fun I think Shannon has a pretty good shot. She seems pretty reserved, but this may be just what he's looking for! But Trista would be my next choice. Did the girl that works for Hooters get cut from the first round? Not that I thought she had a chance...

Nope, Hooters girl is still in the running! I couldn't believe it either.

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This show is so degrading and demeaning to everybody involved in it. I just finshed watching it and I can't wait for next week!

Was anyone else surprised with some of this weeks cuts? I totally thought Amy and her Ivy League education would make it.

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Was it just me, or did I miss the intellectual exchange between Lyneese and Alex on that gondola ride? I must have stepped out for a moment.
I was surprised, but pleased with Alex's choices this week. I was glad to see Amanda, Trista and Shannon. Cathy, Rhonda, Kim and the other one I need to learn more about.
Amy, I thought was phony. I have a theory about someone who smiles *all* the time.
So, how many weeks is this show on? How will they group the dates next week? How many will be elimidated?
Although, I think Alex should be able to take phone calls from the viewing audience, when he's in that little room of his. I have DD cups and can tell him what Amanda will look like in 10 years after 2 babes.:eek
Oh, wait. He's judging *inner* beauty. :rolleyes:

Even dh was entranced. I couldn't believe Rhonda (who looks like a young Vicki from 3rd Rock), LaNease or Kathy (who were both too young for him). I was surprised he didn't pick Amy and Angelique.

I think he is a bit of a bs'er because he keeps saying girl's score points then dumps them. I wasn't surprised about Melissa at all, although I felt sorry for her.

I thought Amy came off a little desperate, especially in the first show, so that may be why he didn't pick her.

My money is on Shannon or Trista. Dh likes Shannon as the favorite, and I vote for Trista.

I do NOT like that Amanda. I know I am prejudiced by her earlier comments. I don't have a problem with someone who owns a trapeze, I just have a theory about people who talk about their sex life on national tv. I call her a bad word at my house.

Did anyone else get totally creeped out when they were in the mud bath? He said "Let's put some mud on Trista." All of a sudden I felt like we were watching porn and it was going to turn into an orgy. Why did he say, "Let's." Did he want the other girls to start mudding each other? Dh thinks he is a lot more base than he comes off (base instincts).

An Ivy League education is not guaranteed to correct a horndog nature. I agree. Notice that he lobbed the mud directly at Trista's ta ta's. I think she handled that pretty well.

Won't we all cheer if she rejects his rose?:thumb

Yeah I would have been pretty offended if some guy started lobbing mud at my boobs. :rolleyes: He sunk a couple of notches in my opinion with that one. And I agree he's probably not as Mr. Nice Guy as they try to make him seem. Especially since he kept Amanda. What exactly is her appeal other than really large ta ta's? :rolleyes:

I'm still surprised by Amy because he went on about how they have so much in common and that's really important to him. Especially that it's important to him to have an educated wife. I figured Ivy League would be a big deal to a guy like him.
And I didn't get the young one? They hardly showed them interacting at all so I was really surprised.

I agree. I think Trista may outclass him.

I can't believe I watch this crap--poor dh thinks I am off my gourd...(But I noticed him sneaking glances at the TV from behind his book)

I like Shannon, but I'm not sure the Bachelor and I have the same taste...What a rediculous show--I love it!

love, Eliza

You all are a riot!!!! (LOL!!!)

I couldn't get into it.

I wish that were me-- unfortunately I am addicted to shows like this. It is horrifying and mesmerizing at the same time!

I don't even watch this show....but I've been enjoying this thread! Enjoying it so much, in fact, that I had a dream about the show last night! It was really wierd....I dreamt it was the end of the series and all the women decided to hook up with each other rather than take the roses from the guy. :) So, there he was all alone while the women coupled up and went off to live happily ever after.

Sounds like a great ending....;)

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I can't pick 4 right now because he always shocks me.

But I did want to add that I read in US mag that his ex-girlfriend says he is an aspiring actor and doing this for a career boost. Interesting, huh?

Who guessed Kim? Not me. There is a school of thought that she is the sleeper. You know the one you never expect to come from behind and win it.

I really like Shannon to win now. I still think Trista has the most class, but she is so reserved she may miss him. I am the same way with people I don't know well. Shyness often gets mistaken for a lack of connection or snobbishness.

I can't even think of what to say about Amanda. Wonder woman and cowgirl outfits? Does this woman think she has ANYTHING to offer but sex? She seriously needs counseling. I hope it is just editing and that she is really trying to show she has more to offer.

I used to be a lot like this when I was younger. I thought sexual attraction was all that I had and tried to flaunt it. When I matured, I found it a real turn-off for a guy to talk about sex on the first date. When I met my husband, I also met another guy around the same time. This guy looked like Dean Cain but immediately wanted to talk about sex and what I would or wouldn't do. It was really offputting. On the contrast, my dh wanted to talk about my son, my family, my job, etc. He wanted to know me, not how I was going to get him off, kwim?

Well, Kim sure was a surprise. Must have that last minute kiss strategy that pulled her into the ring. I don't think that she'll last past next week though; the preview of Alex meeting her family did not look promising.
Trista. I think she'll get booted because she has too many walls; if she has to keep reassuring Alex that she's interested with her words, but pulling away in other ways, I think he'll get bored. She may push him too far away.
Amanda. I am surprised by this, but I think she'll be the winner. She is very comfortable with Alex, and he seems charmed by her. He has consistantly picked her first each time there is a cut. She seems as though she has a gentle heart, a good sense of fun. Although *I * would not roll around on the floor with millions watching, nor would I talk about my sexual escapades, she seems comfortable in doing so, without crossing the totally trashy line. Yes I agree that she is needy in certain ways that may spell trouble ahead, but I think she will be the chosen one in the end.
Shannon. Ugh. Alex set himself up for this one. She is a very high maintenence chick. Princess Shannon indeed. He will never be able to maintain the level of lofty romantic expectations she will require. I agree with Rhonda; I think she is looking for a ring, and she doesn't care who's giving it.
And let me just say: Poor Rhonda. She sure needed some hugs last night.
And Lara, could you be throwin' that Dean Cain look alike my way?

Ya, he was a cutie! Very sexy, but a little creepy, kwim?

I disagree about Amanda. I still think it is Shannon and Trista, neck and neck.

Does anyone else read Alex's diary on abc.com? It is interesting. Follow my link above.

I also read the message boards for there, hoping for a "I know her!" but there are too many messages.

That was an interesting show! My guesses were for Amanda, Trista, Shannon and Rhonda. Oops! Poor Rhonda. She was really into Alex.

Where did this Kim thing come from? The miracles of editing, eh? They didn't show Alex and Kim having more than a two words together (okay, plus some kissing) before the rose ceremony.

My vote is still for Shannon to win.

Whose family did you think Alex fit comfortably into? I thought Kim and Amanda were pull away winners tonight.
I thought Trista and Shannon each became spoiled brats.Trista still seems as if she is responding to everyone, her family included on a shallow level. I just don't think she can open up enough for Alex.
Shannon found it more important to play with her dog; Alex seemed annoyed when that happened. Then, when she would not "have a talk" with him; I just thought her behavior was very immature. :rolleyes: Hello, when you sign on for a voyeuristic show, when are the cameras *not* there?! I think her mother has some concerns about Shannon's motivation, too. "What things do you have in common? " Notice that Shannon got bitchy having to explain herself to her parents too. Seems to me that she does not like to be questioned. How will that fare in a lasting relationship?
I was surprised by his comments about feeling guilt about Amanda; when did he seem as though he felt guilty? Maybe Amanda's brother did his job by asking him all those tough questions. Amanda seems comfortable with him; notice the body language between her and Alex. She is already seeming wifely.
I was really surprised about Kim. I liked her tonight. She seemed fun and gentle spirited. I think he made a mistake, there.

Ok, here are my thoughts:

I loved Kim. I agree with you that he made a mistake. I thought he got on great with her and her family. I think now that she was just filler for him until he could concentrate on the other girls.

Shannon: I am not sure how much was editing with her being obsessed with the dog. It certainly came across as rude, but when I was watching I was pretty sure it was edited to seem worse. I also think that she is playing "girlfriend" too soon. I knew she was trying not to cry when she was mad at him. I wouldn't want to talk about sex in front of the cameras either, but he had a point in that it is a necessary discussion and there is no time away from the cameras. Dh still likes her to win and said he would pick her himself if it were him.

Amanda: I thought that family meeting was uncomfortable. Her mom and stepdad were really quiet. Her brothers grilled him to death. I think he feels guilty because he knows he isn't going to pick her. She is a prime date because she has made it clear that she wants to sleep with him, but she is not wife material. After seeing next week's previews, I definately think he is keeping her just to see how far he gets.

Trista: I don't think this girl likes him that much. She clearly said she wouldn't pick him out of a crowd. I think he has that nerd-turned-cute thing going on. He wants the "cheerleader" type who would've rejected him in high school. He feels more comfortable being rejected and I think that is why he keeps her. I still think she is cold as ice to him, but that seems to keep his interest, so he may end up picking her.

Apparently I am not the only one who found Shannon's behavior on last nights episode off. Check out what the message boards are saying over at ABC about her. General opinion is that "she's got problems". I think the princess is on her way out. Maybe her dog will marry her! :p

I am such a geek for reality t.v. This thread is cracking me up...too funny...
Lara, I definitely agree with this statement,
"I think he has that nerd-turned-cute thing going on. He wants the "cheerleader" type who would've rejected him in high school."
Kim was that girl he could never get in high school. He said himself she was perfect looking. But once he had time alone with her, I knew it wouldn't last. She doesn't read...except for self-help books by Dr. Phil ??? :eek What's up with that? And Alex's look when he saw her father's taxidermy..."wall of dead animals", whatever you call that horrid display, that was priceless.
I think from a socio-psycological standpoint this show is very interesting (the same justification I use for watching Survivor!)
I wonder if there could really be a connection for him with any of the girls after last nights episode?

Trista's family was nice but she seems way too distant from him and the fact that she said she wouldn't notice him in a crowd. Bad vibe!

Shannon definitely has alterior motives....she was certainly bitchy to her family...then to him in the limo. Wouldn't want to marry into that kind of tension....

Amanda...geez, not much there either.

I think he is stuck...he has three cute girls who he has nothing in common with. I REALLY REALLY hope one of the girls will dump him. That would be great!
I wonder if he ever decides that NONE of them are for him....if he will stop the "game".....or will he marry just to save face???

interesting.

My dh watched the whole thing. We were laughing. Fun way to spend an hour before bed letting your mind go numb....

ITA! I also forgot to add that I thought the tension between Shannon and her mom comes from the fact that they obviously don't trust her judgement. Hence all the "just looking for a ring" accusations from other girls.

Lara...what is "ITA"?
ALSO, what is the link to Alex's personal diary???
gotta check it out!

Gadzooks! There isn't really going to be an actual ceremony is there? I thought this elimination game was just to narrow down the possibilities and then Alex *may* ask someone to marry?
That would be a shame to marry someone he has nothing in common with just to save face.
Lara, what is ITA? I think Avery had more in common with him than Shannon woof woof. Just kidding.

ITA is I totally agree (I didn't take the time to type what I was agreeing to--too lazy).

http://abc.abcnews.go.com/primetime/specials/bachelor/diary.html
Here is the link to the diary.

It doesn't end in a ceremony. He said in an interview that I saw that he doesn't marry someone at the end. That doesn't mean he won't marry the person he chooses eventually.

I know I am really awful, but we love South Park here. Last week, they did a parody of the Bachelor. It was soooo funny. They were picking a new best friend. They did the roses and everything. Some of the kids even said the same things the girls did. The only thing they didn't parody was Rhonda's panic attack.

News Alert!!!!
I think I heard that Alex will be on the Rosie show today with Carolyn Rhea.
Disclaimer: I heard this this morning, while the kids jumped on me. Morning is a time of dangerously low brain cell activity. :D Tune in to Rosie to see if Alex spills the beans.

Aw man! I missed it. I have been sick. I am awaiting Monday though!

I almost want to watch this show to see what you are all talking about! I never watch the reality shows, so didn't bother with this one.

It is horrifying and fascinating at the same time. Do join, Irishmommy!

Lara, I'm sorry you were not well. Glad you're back and posting.
I missed the Rosie appearance because of aforementioned kids. So I have nothing to report, sadly.
But here is some news: Amanda made the cover of the trashy rag the Enquirer. Briefly scanning the article, while chubby hands grabbed for it, I saw that she had a fling with a teacher in school, and something about an annulment.:eek
Ahhhh, gossip at it's most incomplete.
Did you know that the show raps up this week? with episodes tonight and Thursday?
I vote that Trista will get dumped tonight, and it will be a choice between the *princess and the ho. *
Hmmmm. Men always seem to replay this scenario don't they?

I still vote that he kicks off Amanda. Dh agrees. I didn't know that was this week. Crap! Now I will have to watch it on the little tv. This Thursday is some Star Wars thing so dh will be hogging the big tv. Oh, I am going to be soooo excited.

BTW, I am still sick and I can't take anything for it since I am pregnant. This in combination with morning sickness. Yuck. I keep telling dh to put me out of my misery.

I'm betting that Amanda will be let go tonight. Dh was sure she'd be the one he'd choose in the end. Hmm, wonder why? LOL

I'm still pretty sure that princess Shannon will end up the winner. She isn't as icy as Trista.

:rolleyes: Sadly, I look forward to Monday nights.

Irishmommy -- join us! It's not too late! :D

Kim

I don't know whether to applaud Shannon's morals or to shake my head and mutter "silly, silly girl". On the one hand, I admire that certain things were off limits, but on the other, couldn't she see that being so stiff and inflexible wasn't pulling Alex closer but having the opposite effect? It is a TV show, for goodness sake. She had to know how demanding and voyeristic it would be. Sure, now that she isn't picked, it's easy to warble "I want someone to love me for myself" (ie spoiled brat) but what of herself did she give Alex? I sure did admire her for turning around and asking "Why", but I really thought, and I think Alex did too, that she was going to smack him.
I did warm up to Trista last night. I thought she came across as more relaxed and caring. That was the true test there. Alex puking in a bag in close quarters. I think she made herself more of a challenge with the big O talk, though. What egocentric male will walk away from that one? I aim to please, ma'am.
And then, on the opposite end of the spectrum is Amanda, who he obviously did not walk away from last night. Okay, we have consenting adults here folks, but I was a little uncomfortable with the camera work. I actually thought we might see the whole thing. And truly, what an oinker Alex would have been had he not chosen Amanda last night. What do you think? Did he do it because of true feelings for her, or just so she and he would not look trashy? And the poor girls face during the rose ceremony; she looked positively ill. I felt so sad for her.
My pick: Amanda. I still think they have the best body language and are having the most fun. They just look like a couple. I vote for her. She has a genuine smile, a great sense of adventure and she seems grounded. I like her.

OMG!!! I didn't think Shannon's morals were the issue. I think Trista has the same morals. I think it was Shannon's bitchiness and need to be in control constantly. I saw a clear picture of what life with her would be like, and I would have made the same decision given the choice. She didn't just shut him down. She shut him down and chastized him like a little boy. She pouts, whines, and complains when he does something he doesn't agree with. Am I the only person who thinks she memorized the book The Rules? I think she was playing games with him. You can show someone you like him and are attracted to him without sleeping with him. My husband waited longer to sleep with me than he did with any other girl he dated in his life, but never once did he suspect that I was playing a game or that I didn't like him. He knew I just wasn't ready.

Trista really doesn't want him, I think. She likes him but isn't in love with him. That is a warning sign, IMO. It signifies that she doesn't feel much attraction for him, but thinks that he is a nice guy. If he chooses her, it won't last. I think there is a difference between loving someone and being in love with someone. I know it takes awhile to love someone, but "in love" is infatuation. You should have it by now or it may not come.

Amanda... Well, I just don't know. If he has any sense, he'd pick her. She gives it up way too easy, but she is the only one who really wants him.

I am looking forward to seeing his parents grill these girls!

I just want to let you know that you guys have gotten me hooked on this show! I watched last week and again last night, and can't wait to see it on Thursday.

jorgiemom and laralou -- I agree with both of your posts! I'm so glad that Shannon got cut loose. She made me tense just watching, so imagine how she made Alex feel. I knew Trista wouldn't get cut, because she is a challenge. I think she might end up "winning" just because she's the type of girl Alex wants to be with....though I hope (and think it should be) Amanda. She may be easy, but I think she's the only one who is really being real and honest, and "herself."

Personally, I don't think Alex is much of a catch. He's not so cute (at least not my type of cute) and not very interesting. But if Amanda really wants him, I hope she gets him!

faeriemom

P.S. I was sooo worried that Amanda was going to get cut loose last night. I thought Alex might want to keep Shannon on out of guilt -- so she wouldn't think he dumped her just because she wouldn't sleep with him. But how awful would it have been if he'd dumped Amanda?! I think that would've made her feel so cheap and used! (And then I really wouldn't have liked Alex!)

I wasn't going to watch last night but I HAD TO! (It is "Turn off T.V. week and I was really trying!!!!) Oh well.
Anyway, I am so glad that Shannon was not chosen. I do applaud her effort to stick with her morals, but I agree that she could have still remained "warm" while doing it. I think the whole thing was just too much for her, the cameras, the pressure, the competition. If I were in that position (which I never would put myself into!) I would probably be just as annoyed and angry at the whole thing.
SO, this brings me to the point that Amanda is the only one who really seems into the process and the guy. Trista only "likes" him and that isn't going to change. Plus her "baby" voice bugs me! It shows a tender side to her, but annoys me nevertheless.

So although Amanda was quick to land Alex in bed, hey, if you are going to buy the goods why not try them out? I mean, c'mon, this is all pretty shallow anyway. Why not pick a guy you can at least be aroused by! And she does seem pretty smart, and fun, and sexy and flexible (not sexually, I mean easygoing! although she may be flexible!! ;) ) ANYWAY, just my take.

Trista is cool but not enough into him. Again, if you are not into playing the game, then leave. I think she should turn him down.

So I guess that would mean Amanda wins by default...hmmmm...I don't know.

You know what my dh said? Why can't it be like this for all of us guys?!!! I mean think about it, what if we all got to have our ex-so's up there and got to compare and contrast them...that would be pretty cool, huh!!!

(pig headed comment from dh, but hey, I think it would be interesting!)

Or even better, we could pick parts of each significant other...and combine them to make THE PERFECT MAN! (or woman) hee hee

;) I think I would like that game!!!

I'm so glad Shannon is gone. She just came off as so cold. I don't think it was really a moral thing. I think she was playing games. I don't think she really cared about him, I do think she wanted to "win".
I don't have a problem with Amanda sleeping with him. Personally, I would not marry I man I hadn't test driven. :D
Something about Trista...something rings untrue to me. And when she came to his room when she was sick she was talking baby talk!!! :yuck That seriously grosses me out.
I vote for Amanda, she's a horndog but she seems the most genuine.

I wouldn't marry a man I hadn't test-driven, but I wouldn't test-drive him while he was still dating other women. My limit!

I also wanted to second the objection to Trista's baby talk. Yuck!

Hey I read today that Alex was almost chosen for Survivor Africa. Makes you wonder how sincere he is about finding a wife…. He was interviewed in People (we have long supermarket lines here) and said that the show has a happy ending. The producer said he was not obligated to propose at the end of the show.

Wow -- I was waaaaay off base on that one! What was up with Shannon?

Laralou: Am I the only person who thinks she memorized the book The Rules? :D :D :D This is so true!

I swear, when Amanda traipsed off to the bedroom with Alex I was stunned. I knew she had it in her but I didn't think she'd *actually* sleep with him! It's amazing how the reality of it really strikes you compared to when you know they are just actors and it's make-believe. Don't get me wrong -- I'd much rather watch two people make love than blow each other up with firearms.

:rolleyes:

Can't wait for Thursday!

Hope it's ok to just jump in here:) I am so glad that some other mamas out there are watching this. I am addicted! I made dh tape it for me the other night...he was truly rolling his eyes.

Anyway, the thing about Shannon and the rules... very true. Another thing that really bothered me about her though, was the way that she treated her family. Did anyone notice that? She was so disrepectful towards her mother and didn't even talk to her sister or neice. Ughhh... You would think that family and children would have made it into the conversation by now.

Both Amanda and Trista seem to have good relationships with their families. So, that would certainly be easier. I do think that Amanda genuinely cares for him. But, can you imagine your dh talking about trapezes on national television?:eek

Originally posted by glad2bemama
Hope it's ok to just jump in here:)

The more the merrier! Since my dh rolls his eyes when I discuss it and says, "I am not your girlfriend!" you guys are the only ones I have to discuss this with.


Originally posted by glad2bemama
But, can you imagine your dh talking about trapezes on national television?:eek

That is why I can't see him marrying her. I couldn't marry someone who told all their kinky stuff on tv so my family and friends, plus every stranger we pass on the street, has a mental image of what we do in the bedroom. TMI! (too much information)

I am happy about the Bachelor's choice. I hope they have fun learning about each other away from the pressure of the cameras.
I think that the body language was good between them; Alex seemed to laugh alot with her. I am being purposely vague because I know there is a time difference. The only complaint I have: he wants her to move to California to be close to him. Hmmm. I 'd think on that a bit. I hope that she doesn't lose her identity in trying to please him. I hope she continues with her wish to become a bridal consultant ( or whatever it was)
This has been a fun thread; I can't believe that we've been discussing this for 5 weeks!
When will the next series air? Can you imagine a Bachelorette series?

Don't forget: Alex and babes will be on Good Morning America on Friday am.

I really liked the ending. I felt that Amanda was a good match for him and I also liked that they didn't get engaged on the spot. Very cool ending. :) I think he made the best choice.

Yes, I think that he made the right choice with Amanda. Trista was just in it for the game. I think that his family made that clear to him.

Do you think that the show directed him to buy the ring just for the suspense? I wonder whether or not they will really get married, though. While I agree with Laralou, that it is too much info that she gave out, I think that she genuinely has stars in her eyes for him and hope that she doesn't get hurt...

I was happy with his choice. I agree though that their is a big chance she will get hurt. She is so young which explains that "too much information." I thought it was funny that he expected Trista to do something out of character to try to win and then she did. I think she genuinely believes that she wanted him, but I think she only wanted him because someone else did.

I don't think that he and Trista slept together because she would have really been upset then.

I do think the show told him to buy the ring. They probably paid for it.

Ah well. I am sad. Now I have nothing to watch. I am waiting for the next trashy reality romance show.

OK. I'm gonna admit this...

I watched the last episode! And the thingy they did with all the other girls.

Are they going to do this type of show again?