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EastbayK

07-03-2008, 08:22 AM

July- Heating up with BFP's

The Infertility ONE Thread
A monthly thread to talk about all of our various journeys through the difficult, trying, and often heartbreaking world of infertility. This thread is a place to chat, vent, get support, cheer each other on, and hopefully occasionally laugh!

Trying to Conceive

barose TTC since 1999 (with intermittent breaks), 1 30wk MC, PCOS (treated with diet/ lifestyle) and Hypothyroid.

biomama TTC since November 2007. 4th IUI cycle, now with clomid and hCG trigger.

blueRhino TTC #1 since June 2007. Currently doing very preliminary diagnostic testing, and Chinese herbs and acupuncture.

BurtsGirl TTC #1 since Aug 2007 using frozen donor sperm

Corikodjo 39, TTC since August of 2007,1 Chemical Pregnancy 11/07,1st cycle with clomid

crazyrunningmama TTC #2 with MFI, DC#1 conceived with IVF/ICSI. Weaned dd in order to do IVF, doing weekly acupuncture and gearing up for another cycle of IVF/ICSI.

Crystal-mommy TTC #2 w/ PCOS on and off for 3 yrs. 2 clomid cycles-BFN, 1st cycle w/ femara

EastbayK TTC #2 since June 2007 with unexplained infertility and while treating cancer (DH). TTC with clomid/IUI.

FierrBugg - TTC #1 since February 2001, mis-dx w/ PCOS in 2002, but do have hormone and ovulatory issues. Finally dx in 2007 w/ a host of clotting properties, low Growth Hormone compensated for by elevated Cortisol and past exposure to nasty viruses that don’t bother me, but love to attack my pregnancies. Taking a mix of supplements and conv. meds. Starting cycle 1 of clomid + injectibles as soon as af rears her ugly head.

hope4light TTC since March 2006 with MFI and slightly low progesterone. Currently TTC with IVF with ICSI, cycle 1 round 1 canceled due to hyper stimulation, cycle 1 round 2 antegon cycle canceled as ovulation started due to high e2 levels. Round 3 ER 7/9 and ET 7/12, beta 7/25.

Julia'sMom TTC#2 with PCOS. DD1 conceived with met, clomid & hcg. No response to clomid, starting IVF.

kristenok18. TTC#2 since 2004, taking a break.

kristinc Grieving after failed IVF w/ ICSI attempt #1. Trying to figure out a new game plan and find a new RE who doesn't think my 27 year-old eggas are too old.

Mawandjls TTC since Oct 2006 with MFI due to vasectomy. Preparing for IVF.

Perdita_In_Ontario TTC#2 since December 2007, started TTC#1 in 1999, MFI (CBAVD) diagnosed in 2002, DC#1 concieved via IVF/ICSI in October 2004. IVF#3 - BFN - Consult w/o June 1 for next steps

poetgirl TTC since October 2006 with low progesterone, possible LPD and hypothalamus dysfunction. Removed polyp 3/08. On 21st cycle, doing IUI, acupuncture and pre-O cleanse. Progesterone in LP

songbird45 TTC #1 with PCOS since January 2007 - 2 failed Clomid cycles and no longer a candidate for Clomid. Now trying Femara for the first time...

Tandy~36 yrs.~TTC #1 for 4 years (2 years with doctor and 1 year break) after 2 miscarriages due to hypercoagulation (blood clotting) solved by taking a blood thinner when i get pregnant again...taking Metformin 1500 mg daily...and natural progesterone cream after possible conception every ovulatory cycle...shouldn't take clomid due to a mood disorder so trying to avoid it...weight/nutrition issues due to other medications but now getting it under control by tapering off those medications and eating better and exercising...

WeasleyMum TTC since October 2006, 4 MCs

Willllthiswork - 25 - TTC #1 since September 05 - First IVF failed

Graduates
(May everyone who passes through this thread find their way to this section)

GreenFlower TTC#2 since Spring 2007--> MARCH 2008

LoveMyJonah TTC #2 with Endometriosis since 11/2007--> MARCH 2008.

Stacymom TTC since March 2006, 1 MC (2007), diagnosed PCOS (treated with Metformin), --> MARCH 2008

soulshine TTC since June 2005, full-term unexplained stillbirth (2005) and MC (2006), with unexplained secondary infertility. --> APRIL 2008

kJad29 TTC since July 2006 with possible MFI, TTC naturally -->MAY 2008

Gillian28 TTC#1 Since April 2007 --> JUNE 2008

Puffnstuff TTC #1 since early 2007. --> June 2008

laralee16 --> June 2008 (while on a break!)

baturay TTC#3, DC#1 and 2 conceived with Clomid. --> June 2008

Aly22681 TTC #1 since January 2007, 3 MCs. --> July 2008

Kiki99 TTC #1 since Apr 2007 (unexplained infertility) with DH. 1 unmedicated IUI - failed, 2 Clomid IUI's - failed and had my 4th IUI with injectables. --> July 2008

mischievium :chart: (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18dd6b)TTC since February 2007 with MFI (antisperm antibodies) and possible mild congenital adrenal hyperplasia. Currently TTC with Clomid and IUI. --> July 2008

Jelly Bean TTC #2 since April 07. one unmedicated IUI, one month of just clomid, one month of clomid and 2 IUI's and this month we did injectibles and 2 IUI's. --> July 2008

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songbird45

07-03-2008, 08:53 AM

EastbayK, thank you for the new thread!

I'll repost what I posted in the June thread.

Congratulations, Aly! Here's hoping it's sticky!

Thanks for your thoughts on injectibles. The dr. told me that the only reason to go for IVF vs. injectibles is the risk of higher order multiples. I'm uncomfortable with selective reduction but not completely opposed. I'm worried about its risks, but I'm just as worried about the risks of a high-order-multiple pregnancy. Injectibles are still less invasive than IVF, so I'm still sort of leaning towards it, but I'm not completely sure.

I'm not religious, but just the idea of seeing 4 beating hearts on an ultrasound and thinking I should stop two of them...

EastbayK

07-03-2008, 09:05 AM

Administrative stuff-
I cleaned up the list and took off everyone who hadn't posted last month. Please feel free to post and get re-added if I took you off!

Tandy
Bungalowmama
Kiki99
voltige
Crystal-mommy
Coridodjo
Post a bit about yourself to be added to the roster. Please post in BOLD so I catch it

I lost all the formatting when I copied and pasted and had to re-do it all...

Fun Stuff-
We had LOTS of BFP's last month and have started the ball rolling!

:joy: Congrats to Aly and Luna on their BFP's!!! I'm so happy for you (and a bit jealous too :hide:

After work today, I have 10 days off! I'm so excited

K

corikodjo

07-03-2008, 11:03 AM

Tandy

07-03-2008, 11:33 AM

Tandy~36 yrs.~TTC #1 for 4 years (2 years with doctor and 1 year break) after 2 miscarriages due to hypercoagulation (blood clotting) solved by taking a blood thinner when i get pregnant again...taking Metformin 1500 mg daily...and natural progesterone cream after possible conception every ovulatory cycle...shouldn't take clomid due to a mood disorder so trying to avoid it...weight/nutrition issues due to other medications but now getting it under control by tapering off those medications and eating better and exercising...

that's it in a nutshell :wink sorry if it's too long...that's as short as i could say it..feel free to edit where you see fit...

and after dh and i made love last night, i noticed that some of the progesterone i had inserted that morning was a little tinged brownish redish...that is not at all normal for me...this was on day 25 so possible implantation...doubtful but let's hope...:thumb

kiki99

07-03-2008, 01:08 PM

Hi K, Thanks for starting up a new thread

Here's the info on me currently

TTC #1 since Apr 2007 (unexplained infertility) with DH. 1 unmedicated IUI - failed, 2 Clomid IUI's - failed and just had my 4th IUI with injectables. 2WW here I come...

Congratulations to all the BFP's! Couldn't be happier for you all!

EastbayK

07-03-2008, 02:51 PM

Updated to here

Thanks ladies!

Today, I'm bored at work so I'm obsessing. I've been a major witch to DH for the last three nights. It has to be a hormonal thing, b/c he hasn't done anything out of the ordinary. But my goodness is he grating on my nerves. Can I have PMS starting only 3dpo? And then today my my lower abs feel... weak? Tired? Like I just did 100 crunches or something. But I'm sure I would know if I had done something like that. Or maybe it's them telling me that they would like me to do something beyond sitting in front of a computer all day...

Kim

corikodjo

07-03-2008, 03:14 PM

biomama

07-03-2008, 04:35 PM

Hi Kim, thanks so much for starting the new thread!

I'm on my 4th IUI cycle, now with clomid and hCG trigger. We're thinking if this one doesn't work we need to ramp up and maybe jump to IVF, which is a bit scary to me!

This is also a diagnostic cycle for me: HSG and saline histosonogram next week, also lots of bloodwork and U/S checking. I have a doctor's appointment every day next week!

Congrats to all the BFPs, this has been a good week! Very happy for y'all.

barose

07-03-2008, 04:56 PM

I'm on CD 49 or 50 and due to see my OB on Monday to see why I dont have AF even though I have strong post-O symptoms (since around June 10) but a neg HPT on the 21st.

crystal-mommy

07-03-2008, 09:04 PM

TTC #2 w/ PCOS on and off for 3 yrs. 2 clomid cycles-BFN, 1st cycle w/ femara.

I have my first u/s on monday to check follicles. Kinda nervous, my last cycle w/ clomid my 4dpo progesterone was 115, so they think i ovulated more than one egg. DH isnt going to want me to do HCG shot if there is the possibility for multiples. I am feeling kinda restless today.... the glucophage is making my stomach upset, and the femara makes me hot! Still not nearly as bad as I felt on clomid, so trying not to complain too much!!

kristenok18

07-03-2008, 10:12 PM

I'm taking a break, deciding whether I want to keep doing this dance or accept things as they are and move on. Still taking metformin, but I'm not doing any other medications or planning another iui. :gloomy:

corikodjo

07-05-2008, 09:09 AM

Hi All. Just wondering what all your TSH levels are. Mine is 3.01 and while my RE has never mentioned this being a problem - I'm reading lots of stuff that says it should be between 1 and 2.

What do you all think? I'm on clomid this cycle and if my TSH is too high will a pregnancy even stick?

I guess I'll discuss this with the Dr. on Monday.

Sometimes I hate the internet.

biomama

07-05-2008, 11:48 AM

cori, I'm getting my thyroid checked now too, I had blood drawn on Thursday for it. I'll let you know what it is.

kristenok18, hugs. That's tough. I wish this were easier for all of us. :hug

barose, let us know what happens! Do you think you might be pg?

crystal-mommy, good luck on Monday. I hope you and your DH can come to a resolution about what you'll want to do. GL!

I have my HSG on Monday, I'm majorly nervous about it. Not sure why... I'm worried it will show my tubes are blocked or something. I'm also worried about how I'll feel physically, and I'm going by myself (against orders :innocent) so I'll have to drive home after (or to work, depends on how I feel).

I guess we will all be updating Monday night!

corikodjo

07-05-2008, 01:14 PM

cori, I'm getting my thyroid checked now too, I had blood drawn on Thursday for it. I'll let you know what it is.

I have my HSG on Monday, I'm majorly nervous about it. Not sure why... I'm worried it will show my tubes are blocked or something. I'm also worried about how I'll feel physically, and I'm going by myself (against orders :innocent) so I'll have to drive home after (or to work, depends on how I feel).

I guess we will all be updating Monday night!

I am having mine on Tuesday. I really didn't want to do it - cause I have been pregnant once before -- AND I'm on Clomid already - but the RE said we'll just do it to rule it out. I am going alone too!

hope4light

07-05-2008, 03:34 PM

Cori - On most of the tests I don't remember my numbers, it was so long ago and I had slightly low progesterone, but all else was within normal ranges. I wish that I had more experience to help you out!!

Barose - That seems so strange... If anything, here's to hoping that you might, just might, be carrying that sticky little bean!

Quick update on me, through this hellish third attempt at IVF with ICSI, I am actually thinking that I might make it to an ER and an ET! Today will be day 9 of stims, had b/w and u/s today and the doc was very pleased with how I'm coming along, especially considering my history. My E levels are still a little high, but he's hoping to push me to Thursday, but ER could be as early as Weds... ET (yeppers, a FRESH one!) could be Saturday!!! WOOO HOOOO!! :joy:

Update to my notes:

hope4light TTC since March 2006 with MFI and slightly low progesterone. Currently TTC with IVF with ICSI, cycle 1 round 1 canceled due to hyper stimulation, cycle 1 round 2 antegon cycle canceled as ovulation started due to high e2 levels. Round 3 lupron and repronex again, ER possibly 7/9 or 7/10 with possible ET 7/12ish.

crystal-mommy

07-06-2008, 12:23 AM

Can't remember exactly what my Dr said about higher TSH levels, but it was something to do w/ having a baby that has llower IQ. Holy crap!! Never thought about my fetus being "dumb'" cause of all this!! My head was spinning as he was talking, he talks about a 100miles a minute!! I think it "can" implant if levels are a little higher, but they like to see them lower. My tsh has always been normal, but my anti-thyroid levels are super high (levels are supposed to be under 4 *i think* and mine was >120! Anxious to see what the Dr has to say about that.

I was supposed to have a HSG this cycle, but think it is going to be postponed since I just switched dr's. The whole holiday weekend really got things off track!!

I asked DH if he wanted to go w/ me on monday to the dr. It will hard cause don't really want my 5yr old to see all this stuff. But, he will prolly decide he doesn't want to go anyway! And if something happens and I do get preg w/ multiples I can always say " i asked you if you wanted to go"!! lol :)

fierrbugg

07-06-2008, 11:41 AM

Hi ladies:

songbird45: I had never heard that about injectibles. Thanks for mentioning it - I'm going to have to research it now. My RE wants to put me on injectibles w/ clomid - we have some friends who did it and didn't have any issues w/ multiples. But twins run in my family. Thanks again!!

Tandy: :fingersx: that you had implantation spotting. :D

biomama: GL w/ your slew of dr's appt.'s

barose: I'm kind of in the same boat as you. GL w/ your Dr.'s appt.

EastbayK, crystal-mommy, kristenok18, hope4light, corikodjo: :grouphug

Congrats to the June bfp's. :jumpers:

I started June out on the thread and then went away. :lol June was a crazy month for us - I turned 31, dh was in the hospital, not to be outdone mil was in the hospital the next week, I had the flu and was dead to the world for about 4 days. Everyone's ok. Life was just super crazy there for a while. I'm on cd87 and have been spotting since Monday. :bang I was waiting for cd3 to go in for a pre-clomid u/s but when I called the RE's office and told them I haven't had an af since April, they told me I should come in next week. Go figure. :wink My cycles haven't been this wonky since my first mc - when I would go 6 months w/o an af. But I don't have that kind of patience/time right now. I'm just tired of waiting for my body to cooperate, I'm at that point where I'm going to MAKE it cooperate.

EastbayK

07-06-2008, 02:48 PM

Updated to here

I think I got everyone! I'm going on vacation and won't be online until thursday am or so, so it will be a few days if you have an update. My chart is looking nice so far, I just hope the trend continues- http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/165d5b

fierrbugg- Glad you are back, sorry last month was so rough for you. I hope things take a turn for the better!

GL to everyone!!!!

K

songbird45

07-06-2008, 03:36 PM

fierrbug, Clomid with injectibles doesn't make a lot of sense, unless you're talking about an hcg trigger. I can't have Clomid or Femara, so we're talking about injectible FSH, which tends to mature more than one follicle at once. I don't think an hcg trigger shot has anything to do with how many follicles mature.. I think it just releases the mature eggs.

barose

07-06-2008, 08:15 PM

EastbayK - Nice chart! Have a good vacation.

fierrbugg - Thanks!

hope4light - This has been on our mind this weekend too. :innocent

biomama - Not sure, but I'm going to be bitting my nails until tomorrow (appointment is at 4:00PM :eyesroll)

We are back from being away for the holiday weekend and now nervous about my appointment tomorrow. Nothing has changed: still sore breasts, creamy CM (not sure what that means), etc.

Aly22681

07-06-2008, 09:49 PM

You can do both Clomid and injectibles, Here is how my dr explained it to me...
Clomid blocks your brain from LIMITING the hormone that grows your eggs, so they get alot more of it while your on clomid.
Injectibles take your brain out of the equation all together, the injectibles feed the eggs the hormones to make them grow.
(I'm SURE this is not the medical way it all happens but this was just his way of dumbing it down for me :) )

So if you do both they usually do Clomid Cycle days 3-7 then Injectibles 8-12 (or however long you need them)

Its a pretty aggressive protocol but I've heard of ALOT of women getting pg by doing this GOOD LUCK!!

fierrbugg

07-06-2008, 11:54 PM

Its a pretty aggressive protocol but I've heard of ALOT of women getting pg by doing this GOOD LUCK!!

And I was not ready for it 6 months ago, which is when we decided just to have me on the meds/supplements and go through 3 'normal' cycles. But since I haven't had a normal cycle since 2007 - I'm just ready to move on and up. We've been ttc long enough, and I've been fighting to do it as naturally as possible for 7-ish years and all that's gotten me is 1 possibly 2 chemicals and lots of frustration. So, I've learned alot of about myself in the mean time, but I'm just tired of futzing around. I'm about 1 year behind dh w/ this decision, but he's been awesome about letting me figure out what I want to do - because I'm the one who has to be poked and prodded, etc.

crystal-mommy

07-07-2008, 06:41 AM

I dislike afternoon appt's!! It seems like it consumes my whole day! Of course, any other day I would sleep til 11 or 12 (I work nights so our schedule is a little different around here) and that would be fine w/ a 3pm appointment. Today?? Up @ 6:30am!!! I am going to have lunch w/ some girlfriends, that should pass some time. oh well, @ least that gives me plenty of time to shave, lotion and all the other primping involved w/ having to get up in the stirrups!! lol :wink

biomama

07-07-2008, 06:44 AM

oh barose, I hope it's good news! GL!!!

Tandy

07-07-2008, 11:23 AM

well, it wasn't implantation spotting...i started my menstrual cycle....

here we go again....i have a doc. appt. tomorrow to discuss things...

hubby might be away on business this month while i am ovulating...but if i am exactly on time (day 16 or 17 for me) then he will be home...only those 2 days though...wouldn't that be funny if it worked out?

i am not as depressed about starting my cycle this month as i was last month...no tears...just a desire to move on....

biomama

07-07-2008, 01:56 PM

Tandy, :hug I hope your scheduling will work out! Treat yourself with something nice to make up for AF showing up. I find it makes me feel better to have a nice glass of wine, or watch a girly movie, or something else a little indulgent when I get AF.

barose

07-07-2008, 02:01 PM

well, it wasn't implantation spotting...i started my menstrual cycle....

:hug

Tandy

07-07-2008, 02:23 PM

thanks for the support...i am handling it unusually well this month...maybe it's because i got a lot of sun over the weekend!!!

Aly22681

07-07-2008, 02:44 PM

I just wanted to update, I got my beta and it was a lovely 84!! So it looks like only one of my embies took! DH and I are ecstatic! Now lets hope it doubles! :)

crystal-mommy

07-07-2008, 03:57 PM

Just got back from my dr's appt. I have 2 follicles, one is small (she didn't tell me the exact number for that one) and the other one is 24 mm, so it is either a cyst or a really large follicle already. I have to go back in 2 days and have a repeat u/s. Also, my endometrial lining is kinda thin (only 8 instead of the 12 they like to see) so it just might be a little early yet. hopefully the 2nd follicle one will grow too!! Kinda bummed... but trying not to think about it too much.
Was kinda pissed off cause the "office nurse" made me get undressed for no reason... I know that is insignificant but I really didn't want to be talking to the dr w/o clothes on for no reason!! I specifically asked her to go out and ask him if he needed to do a pelvic.... she came back and said he did.... then he cme in 2 minutes later and said no he didn't. I work w/ him on a daily basis... clothes would have been nice!! I know ppl get naked in dr's offices everyday... but let me keep a *little* bit of dignity!! :irked:

anyways...

Aly- congrats!! Hopefully it will double!!

Tandy- *hugs* good luck w/ this cycle

biomama

07-07-2008, 04:44 PM

Hey everyone!

Aly, that's great! When do you get your next one drawn? How can you tell it's only one emby? I thought they wouldn't know until the U/S?? I'm so happy for you girl!

crystal-mommy, I'm sorry about your experience today. I hope your two follicles keep growing! And I hear you about the undressing unnecessarily. That is so annoying.

fierrbugg, what a month you had! Glad that everyone is okay, but that must have been tough. GL with your cycle.

Barose, did you go to the Dr. yet? GL!!!

I'm doing okay. I just had to say goodbye to my close friend who is moving away... She gave me all her old baby books, I hope I need them one day.

The HSG this a.m. was fine! It wasn't too bad, only minor cramping, the worst part was when he put in the speculum. I'm used to my awesome RE who does it without me feeling much of anything. And my tubes looked clear, so that was awesome. He said there was some resistance and that they may have been a little plugged up with mucus, so maybe this will do the trick! I definitely needed a pad afterwards from all the dye coming back out.

barose

07-07-2008, 04:48 PM

Barose, did you go to the Dr. yet? GL!!!

I'm doing okay. I just had to say goodbye to my close friend who is moving away... She gave me all her old baby books, I hope I need them one day.

The HSG this a.m. was fine! It wasn't too bad, only minor cramping, the worst part was when he put in the speculum. I'm used to my awesome RE who does it without me feeling much of anything. And my tubes looked clear, so that was awesome. He said there was some resistance and that they may have been a little plugged up with mucus, so maybe this will do the trick! I definitely needed a pad afterwards from all the dye coming back out.

Wow! I'm glad it went well. :thumb

My appointment isnt until 4:00PM PST. I am soooo nervous!

poetgirl

07-07-2008, 06:32 PM

Wow! I'm glad it went well. :thumb

My appointment isnt until 4:00PM PST. I am soooo nervous!

Oooh you're there right now! Praying for you Barose! I'm in SF, so official Bay Area :goodvibes: going your way!

Aly, Baturay and Luna, :joy::joy::joy: 3 BFPS on this thread is DEFINITELY better than 1. Thrilled for you and wishing you the best for your pregnancies.

K, Thanks yet again for keeping the thread. I would do it but we're in possible moving transition and I'm not stable computer-wise right now. :hug

My update: On 21st cycle, doing IUI, acupuncture and pre-O cleanse. Progesterone in LP
And the longer version (xpost from IUI thread):
So....I got my CB Happy face today, day 9 (no meds this time). IUI tomorrow. My hopelessly short cycle. My RE thinks it's been esp. short because it takes me about 4 days off the progesterone to get AF, about 18 dpo, and he thinks that's shortening the FP. Nothin' I can do about it though because I can't get preg. w/out the P. Short cycles also runs in my family though and my oldest sis has 3 kids, so I am not going to freak out about it. I had a dream I gave birth last night and (pardon the description), it came out in one easy painless push that felt like a relief. Everyone was shocked and I said, "I'm terrible at getting pregnant but I'm incredible at giving birth!" Maybe that's the story with this dreaded IF business, maybe down the road, some things get to be really easy and beautiful. Let's hope. I have been doing a two week liver cleanse to try to flush the clomid out of my system and be more balanced. I feel like I have a sensitive system and it really did a number on me. Tonight I am having something done at a Japanese spa called "herbal renewal." It's my present to myself...every time someone new has to poke, prod or do some other unfun western thing, I'm doing something that feels really good before it. This is acupressure, herbal poultices and oil massage. So, hopefully I'll be really relaxed tomorrow.

HUGS and ideal cycles this month to Everyone! :love

crystal-mommy

07-07-2008, 06:43 PM

poetgirl what is the liver cleanse??

poetgirl

07-07-2008, 06:53 PM

poetgirl what is the liver cleanse??

It's a two week thing I got at Whole Foods, so I thought it would be great for the FP. My acup. always says my liver chi is weak (despite no alcohol, smoke, coffee, junk food, etc). So I've been taking that twice a day and also drinking: Kombucha, Aloe Vera Juice, Raw Apple cider vinegar in water, detox tea and Chlorophyll w/ oxygen in water every day. I heard that liver function can be correlated to IF and although I am in a place where I want to stop trying to "fix myself," this made sense. After I O, I will just do the Kombucha.
I also added in this month, acidopholus and CoenzymeQ10 on the rec. of the acup. Hope that helps!
The links are:
http://www.motherlove.com/faq_infertility.php
http://www.kombucha-lm.com/what_is_kombucha.htm

poetgirl

07-07-2008, 06:55 PM

Oh I also really wanted to send gigantic super-sized hugs to Kristenok.
:grouphug:grouphug:grouphug:grouphug:Kristen.

crystal-mommy

07-07-2008, 07:16 PM

oops had double posted somehow... :)

barose

07-07-2008, 09:53 PM

I had an ultrasound and my OB found nothing but a thick lining that wont shed. :(:(:(:gloomy::gloomy:

I guess incredibly sore, growing breasts for weeks means absolutely nothing (they have increased in size and pain over the past week). I should have temped this cycle but I am soooo bloody sick and tired of it!

Now she wants me to POAS in the AM "just in case" before starting progesterone (something I haven't had to take in several years). Why?? I dont know. If she didn't see anything in the ultrasound, there is nothing there.:crying

Tandy

07-08-2008, 06:19 AM

((((((((barose)))))))

kristenok18

07-08-2008, 07:34 AM

hope4light

07-08-2008, 08:43 AM

Barose - I'm so sorry :hug I hate that this has to be another crappy stump blocking the road for you, especially when the road is already full of potholes and hills that seem impossible to climp. GL, you are in my prayers...

poetgirl - GL this cycle, I hope the 2ww flies by and brings another BFP for us all to cheer about!

biomama - I'm glad to hear that all went well with the HSG yesterday.... hope that you continue to get good news!

crystalmommy - sounds like their office staff hardly knows what they're doing... hang in there, in the end you'll be thinking that those things were minor to what you got out of it, right?!

Tandy - here's to another month, GL!

Aly - That is SO great!! You never know though, maybe it'll still be multiple's!!

songbird45

07-08-2008, 09:31 AM

kristenok18

07-08-2008, 09:35 AM

barose, I'm so sorry. :hug

My update: I have a mature follicle! I guess we'll get busy with the intercourse and the opk's... I'm shocked, after last week's low estrogen levels that we see a follicle on day 17. I guess I just take a bit longer to respond to the Femara than most people. I'm relieved more than anything, and nervous, and ... there's that pesky hope thing again ...

That's great! I've had mature follies a little later in my cycle as well when on femara. Good luck!!!

kristenok18

07-08-2008, 09:36 AM

Oh I also really wanted to send gigantic super-sized hugs to Kristenok.
:grouphug:grouphug:grouphug:grouphug:Kristen.

Thank you! :Hug

barose

07-08-2008, 10:09 AM

crystal-mommy

07-08-2008, 02:03 PM

Thanks ladies. My OB had me take a HPT this morning. Of course it was a BFN. I hate taking HPTs - it feels like stabbing myself in the heart. Last night was horrible: up half the night crying, hyperventilating and not sleeping. I look and feel like crap now (at work). I have a few options in terms of next steps, but for now, taking Provera is my next option, but I’m thinking of staring Wellbutrin and unsure if Provera + Clomid + Wellbutrin is a good idea. I didn’t think to ask my doctor yesterday, I was too numb.

:grouphug I take wellbutrin, and I really like it. I notice that if I miss a dose or two for some reason I am very moody and ready to kill my husband or anyone that crosses my path really. Also, I notice that I obsess more about the whole ttc if I haven't taken it regularly. Its nice too because you can adjust your dose pretty easy. My dr gave me 2 different prescriptions, I take 150mg until its time to O, and then I take 300mg from O until AF starts. It takes about 2-3 weeks before you feel the effects of the meds. It doesn't help w/ anxiety...but definitely helps w/ mood swings. AND the best part is they have generics now... so its cheap!!! good luck!!

barose

07-08-2008, 02:25 PM

:grouphug I take wellbutrin, and I really like it. I notice that if I miss a dose or two for some reason I am very moody and ready to kill my husband or anyone that crosses my path really. Also, I notice that I obsess more about the whole ttc if I haven't taken it regularly. Its nice too because you can adjust your dose pretty easy. My dr gave me 2 different prescriptions, I take 150mg until its time to O, and then I take 300mg from O until AF starts. It takes about 2-3 weeks before you feel the effects of the meds. It doesn't help w/ anxiety...but definitely helps w/ mood swings. AND the best part is they have generics now... so its cheap!!! good luck!!

Thank you for sharing your experience. This really helps a lot. :hug

biomama

07-08-2008, 04:29 PM

well, my good news couldn't last... my saline sono-histo-whatever-gram showed a polyp in my uterus. It's not super huge, I guess, but it's there... And I just read that prolonged spotting after your period can be a sign of a polyp, and guess what! I have that. I mentioned it to my RE a long time ago and he said it didn't mean anything...

he didn't say for sure if it would need to be removed. It is lower down, kind of next to my cervix. But it's possible it's blocking sperm entry, and we don't need any more hurdles for poor DH's sperm! and the first worry I had wasn't about the procedure to remove it or anything, but about the cost! I don't know if it would be covered by ins. I think I should stop worrying about money but it's been so tight lately, and we have many hundreds of dollars a month in RE costs already! Sigh.

I also only had 9 antral follicles, which is really low for my age. My FSH was at 7, and my estradiol was >200 (is that because of the clomid?). My BW was on CD7, and I started clomid on CD3.

Barose, I'm so sorry. I know it's extra hard to see the BFN when you have signs and extra hope... :hug. It's so tough, isn't it?

songbird45, GL! I hope that follicle is the one!

barose

07-08-2008, 05:24 PM

BurtsGirl

07-08-2008, 07:04 PM

Hi everyone. Sorry I've been MIA for a couple of weeks. Our latest attempt failed. :( It was a tough one to take because I kind of got my hopes up. I've been pretty down and depressed. I've decided to start some therapy and have an appointment for next week. I'm also trying to look at all my options. DW and I talked about adoption and I've done some reading. I'm also looking more seriously into IVF. I can't stay on the ride much longer, my sanity can't handle it. We're taking this month off and talking alot, then we'll make a decision and go from there.

Good luck to those in the 2WW :dust

And :hug to those with disappointing news.

crystal-mommy

07-08-2008, 10:01 PM

barose, I'm so sorry. :hug

My update: I have a mature follicle! I guess we'll get busy with the intercourse and the opk's... I'm shocked, after last week's low estrogen levels that we see a follicle on day 17. I guess I just take a bit longer to respond to the Femara than most people. I'm relieved more than anything, and nervous, and ... there's that pesky hope thing again ...

Yay!! This gives me hope that maybe I am just going to ovulate late like I did on clomid. I am doing opk's, and there isn't even a hint of a 2nd line yet...
hopefully my second u/s tomorrow will be more "productive".

Did you have u/s every couple of days??

songbird45

07-09-2008, 12:50 PM

I had an ultrasound on day 11 that shows a bunch of tiny follicles, and one on day 17 that showed one mature follicle. Today I had a postcoital test which showed good ph and stretch CM, but they couldn't find any sperm. They said this means that the sperm are unable to swim well in the CM and that we should do an IUI instead... so guess what we're doing tomorrow? I hope dh is ok with romancing a cup. I have to admit it is a huge relief and completely takes the pressure off. We had to try 3 times before we were successful at bd this morning.

barose

07-09-2008, 01:01 PM

mischievium

07-09-2008, 04:18 PM

Hi Everyone!

I'm so sorry to have been MIA for a whole month-- we've been travelling and buying a house and packing and moving and now are sitting in an empty house waiting for all of our stuff to come (it was supposed to be here by the 3rd and now they're saying the 13-14th... grrrrr).

I have a LOT to catch up with, but I wanted to start by saying:

:joy: :dust :storkgirl :storkboy :surprise: :storkboy :storkgirl :dust :joy:
:1sttri: :2ndtri: :3rdtri: :baby CONGRATULATIONS LARALEE, BATURAY, and ALY!!! :baby :1sttri: :2ndtri: :3rdtri:
:joy: :dust :storkgirl :storkboy :surprise: :storkboy :storkgirl :dust :joy:

I wish you all the stickiest of sticky baby vibes!!!

As for me, here is the bio to add to the first post:

mischievium :chart: (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18dd6b) TTC since February 2007 with MFI (antisperm antibodies (http://www.sharedjourney.com/define/asperm.html)) and possible mild congenital adrenal hyperplasia. Currently TTC with Clomid and IUI.

This is my first Clomid/IUI cycle. Minus the hot flashes, I haven't had much in the way of side effects from the Clomid. I took it CD 3-7, then went in for an US on CD12 (which happened to be the 4th of July). The RE du jour found 3 good sized follicles (2 on the left and 1 on the right), she wanted to give my body the weekend to grow the follicles a bit bigger (they were 17, 18, and 19mm and she wanted them above 20), to allow my lining to thicken a bit, and to see if I would surge on my own. I had neg OPKs through the weekend and went back on Monday for an US. The RE du jour couldn't really get a good view of my right ovary, but the 2 follicles on the left were 23mm and my lining was now 13mm, so he said to go ahead and get the HCG shot that day and come in the next day for the IUI. So, yesterday was my first IUI AND my 31st birthday (let's hope I got what I wanted for my birthday :fingersx:)!

So... now I'm in 2WW-land for the first time seriously in a few months. Wish me luck!

We are supposed to get internet hooked up in our house tomorrow, so I hope to be around a bit more and get to know the newer people and catch up with what has been going on for everyone else!

barose

07-09-2008, 04:39 PM

I saw someone (alternative health - forgot her title!) who specializes in fertility. She uses a combo of Chinese medicine (not acupuncture though) and western/botanical medicine.

According to her, I have an inflamed liver and I believe (and can feel it). For the past week, just that side of my belly was a bit swollen - something I can feel. There is some pain, but I associated with PCOS though none of my cysts are larger. This explains my current estrogen dominance and all the symptoms that come with it, pain, etc.

I was given some Chinese herbs to help rid my body of this excess estrogen and eventually give me a withdrawal bleed. I will also do a short detox/fast to help with that. When my period comes, next steps will follow.

I feel so much better knowing what is going on with my body at the moment.

songbird45

07-10-2008, 11:14 AM

barose, I really hope the alternative medicine person can help you!
mischievium, I'm glad to see you! Good luck!!!

So, things I learned at the IUI this morning:
* Dh says that playboy actually has more articles than porn. He says that if you buy playboy and don't read the articles, you've wasted a lot of money.
* Dh also said that there were two check boxes for how the sperm was obtained. Obviously masturbation is one, but the other was "extraction" - he said that reading that set him back several minutes.
* IUI's are uncomfortable but not painful.
* They showed me a syringe with DH's name on it. This was supposed to reassure me that they were using his sperm. (um, okay.)

I'm calm today, but I haven't yet seen high temps. We'll see how I do once I actually have evidence of ovulation.

BurtsGirl

07-10-2008, 04:39 PM

barose - I'm also doing TCM and herbs. I just started back after having to stop due to illness. I'm also doing acupuncture and that is just great.

Songbird - So glad the IUI went well. :dust to you in the 2ww!

Has anyone read "The Infertility Cure" or "The Way of the Fertile Soul" by Randine Lewis. Any thoughts on those books, if you've read them. Did they help you? Make you feel better? Give you more tools, etc?

erin_d_a

07-10-2008, 05:25 PM

Well here's me. TTC since 2000. 4 m/c 2 kiddos adopted domestically who are awesome. PCOS w/ metformin and clomid never worked. Now we move on to Femera tomorrow. Here's hoping for baby before hubby is deployed!

EastbayK

07-11-2008, 06:53 AM

Updated to here

I'm back from vacation! We went up to Savannah, GA for a few days. It was beautiful up there and very relaxed.

Despite my super high, promising temps, I tested this morning at 13dpo and it was a BFN :angry. Back when I had my HSG, the RE said that if we had 3 IUI's that were unsuccessful, then he wanted to do some...laprascopy? to check for scaring in my uterus. There was something on the HSG that wasn't quite right but he didn't think was anything. So I'll have to bring it up on Monday. Otherwise, it will be on to Femara for me. DH and I are still against jumping up to IVF b/c we just can't believe we need it- we've already conceived together once. WHY, WHY, WHY ???

Welcome back Mischievium- I was wondering where you had gone.

There was so much I wanted to say to everyone and so many hugs I wanted to give for all the messages I missed in the past week. It seems like it was kind of a hard week for most people (receivers of BFP's excluded) I hope that everyone is doing well in the place they are at now.

Kim

Aly22681

07-11-2008, 10:13 AM

Oh EastbayK, I LOVE Savannah, its my home town, I was born and raised there for 25 years. Until my DH picked me up and made me an Army wife :lol:. I'm still in GA though so I can't complain, I get to go visit the family alot!! I hope you LOVED it!

kiki99

07-11-2008, 12:07 PM

Hi,

I am all confused and don't know where else to turn. I had my progesterone tested yesterday and I didn't hear from my RE's but since they only call if there's a problem I'm actually glad. I called today just to see where the number was and the nurse said "it was over 40 and after 40 we stop counting so I don't have an exact number for you. Just 40+" I asked if that was good, and she said, yes, very good.

Last cycle I was on 150mg of Clomid and it made my progesterone levels VERY low; i was at 7 and had to go on progesterone suppositories. The cycle before that I was on 50mg of Clomid and it did nothing and my levels were at 17.

SOOOOOO, could i be pregnant? I'm 9dpo and the only symptoms I have are very sore and sensitive breasts and i'm sleeping like 8-9 hours (more than i usually get) and still dragging ass in the morning. I normally don't have any real PMS symptoms but I'm afraid this is all in my head and I'll get yet another BFN. Anybody else in the 2ww get their progesterone numbers back?

Thanks ladies...for all your help with my un-going craziness :o

songbird45

07-11-2008, 12:11 PM

awww... I sympathize. But there's no way a progesterone number in the tww could tell you if you were pregnant or not. It's "good enough that it is possible to support a pregnancy" and "not good enough" ... I know you want to read something into this, but you really can't!

crystal-mommy

07-11-2008, 03:32 PM

Kiki My progesterone last month was 115 (I took 50 mg of clomid). I wasn't preg... the Dr said it meant I definitely ovulated. Good luck!! I hope you get your bfp!!!

kiki99

07-11-2008, 03:49 PM

poetgirl

07-11-2008, 06:07 PM

i didn't really think it would, but I guess I just wanted to ask anyway. I'm just tired of the constant poking and prodding and since they never give me a reason as to why one cycle after another fails...I guess I was looking for a little glimmer of hope. 6 more days and I'll know for sure...

Kiki, Are you taking progesterone? If so, what kind? There's one that enters your bloodstream and can make your levels very high and the suppostories are more locally absorbed so aren't always reflected in the P test. I do hope it's because you're preg. Hang in there. These are the vulnerable days...

mawandjls

07-11-2008, 06:17 PM

Hi K - I'm new to this thread, but wanted to join in and start sharing. I'm 34, TTC since Oct 2006. My dh and I found out in June that IVF is our only option to conceive, since my husband's reversal was unsuccessful. I've had the day 21 and day 3 blood draw and I have my saline infusion on Monday. I'm really excited and a bit scared to start this journey, but I'm so glad to find a group of people with which to share the uncertainties of this experience.

kiki99

07-11-2008, 06:28 PM

Kiki, Are you taking progesterone? If so, what kind? There's one that enters your bloodstream and can make your levels very high and the suppostories are more locally absorbed so aren't always reflected in the P test. I do hope it's because you're preg. Hang in there. These are the vulnerable days...

Thank you for the support, i appreciate it. They most certainly are. I am not currently on any sort of progesterone. That's why it's a little hopefull because that would mean that my body is finally doing what it's supposed to all on its own. I think i may give in and start doing a HPT on monday of next week. DH and I are going away for the weekend, meet up with some friends and try to forget the craziness for a few hours...haha. I know i'm over thinking this but at this point i can't help it.

Jelly_Bean

07-11-2008, 07:31 PM

Kiki-did you get the trigger shot this month? be careful testing too soon b/c that can give you a false positive. I got a positive last month at 9 dpo, 11 days past trigger and I got all excited. next day was negative though. :( i'm bad about testing early though so I totally understand! I hope this is your month!!

I'm new to the group. I've joined in on the IUI group but thought I'd hop in here too. We've been ttc #2 since april 07. Our first ds we got pregnant first try so we didn't expect this at all. :( we've been through one unmedicated IUI, one month of just clomid, one month of clomid and 2 IUI's and this month we did injectibles and 2 IUI's. Just had my second one today so I"m now officially in the tww! We thought we were dealing with male factor infertility but DH's sperm samples have been all over the board. Some really high, some really low. We had good counts this month though so hopefully this is it!

fierrbugg

07-12-2008, 12:20 AM

Hi Ladies!!

Seems like so many need hugs this week. Barose, Burt's Girl, Poetgirl :grouphug

Kiki: Idk anything about progesterone #'s really, but still :fingersx:

This was x-posted in the ttc 12+months thread:

My RE appt. reminded me of all of the stuff that I should be doing and haven't been. I have redeveloped the same infection for the third time since May. :bang My RE was astounded that my PCP had been prescribing basically the wrong antibiotic and he told me that now I'm going to have to go on a new antibiotic and get a shot to clear the infection up. Yay! :( We are on TTC restriction for 4-5 weeks now as we fight to get my system cooperating and immunity back up. He says that having my immune system in peak working order is extremely important if we're going to conceive a healthy pregnancy (or develop a mature follicle for that matter). Part of his theory about why I've had my mc's is that viruses took advantage of my suppressed immunity and attacked my pregnancies. He's adding about 5 supplements for me and also now wants dh on some of those as well. It's going to be an extra $300+/month but we're committed to doing what we need to do. He also wants us on the Blood Type diet. He's been doing this since Feb (and our last appt was Dec) - and he's been having tons of luck w/ his other patients - told me about one who had a similiar diagnosis as me and she's now pg w/ twins. :fingersx: Plus he's lost 20lbs in the last few months, which I don't think would upset me one bit. :wink So that's the story for us - back to square one with some tweaks to try and get my body to cooperate. 4 weeks, I can do that, right?

hope4light

07-12-2008, 09:07 AM

fierrbug and kiki - big :hug to you both, hang in there and hoping for the best. fierrbug - just remember how far you've come, and how long it's already been.... these next few weeks will fly by!

jelly_bean and mwandjls - Welcome. I am sorry that you are on this crappy road, and I hope that your stay is short and sweet. GL to you both!

Quick update on me - I have my ET today, I'll be leaving in about 10 mins... I'm excited, nervous, scared, hopeful, and cautiously optimistic. Here's to hoping!

WeasleyMum

07-12-2008, 10:27 AM

barose

07-12-2008, 11:15 AM

kristenok18

07-12-2008, 12:54 PM

jjawm

07-12-2008, 01:13 PM

Hi ladies,

I'm new to this thread. We've been TTC for about 1 year now. My dd was conceived through IVF/ICSI, but we don't have the $ to do another round (and no extra embryos for FET).

I'm pulling my hair out right now. I had weird period-like bleeding 7 days after ovulating, but it was lighter and shorter. Yesterday I took an HTP. Negative, but about 12 minutes after, there was a definate second blue line. But it was after the 10 minutes. So I took another one. Totally negative.

Today I took FRER, and at first there was a faint second line, but it quickly disappeared. So of course I sent dh out to get a digital. I have lots of other pregancy symptoms. But I'm 20 days past ovulation. So this really can't be pregnany.

I had mostly given up hope of conceiving naturally, and now this has my head buzzing.

Jelly_Bean

07-12-2008, 01:58 PM

:Hug Weasleymum. I'm so sorry. :(

hope4light

07-13-2008, 09:27 AM

I need to be removed from the "graduates" section and back to TTC... AGAIN. Thank you.

For anyone still counting, we found out (via u/s) that this pregnancy is a no-go, making it our fourth loss in a row. Now I'm in that exciting period of wondering if/when I'll miscarry naturally or whether I'll need a d'n'c. Fun times, fun times. Will somebody remind me why I keep putting myself through this?

Oh WM, I am sooo very sorry.... you are in my thoughts and prayers during yet another rough time. I don't know how in the world you continue to handle all these bumps in the road, you are a very strong woman. Hang in there!

jjawm - GL to that turning into a real BFP instead of something that just has you questioning! And welcome, may your stay here be short!

mawandjls

07-13-2008, 09:29 AM

WM - I'm soo, soo sorry. You'll be in my prayers.

biomama

07-14-2008, 07:55 AM

WeasleyMum, I'm so sorry. That is terrible. :hug :hug I am thinking about you.

welcome mawandjls and Jellybean. I hope your stays here are short!

My temps are so super wonky this cycle. WTF? I don't even have crosshairs from FF yet. Is it possible not to ovulate if you have mature follies and they give you 10,000 units of hCG? I'm pretty sure I ovulated... why aren't my temps confirming it? Arggggh.

I am super emotional lately too. (and tired. is that the hCG?) I flipped out at DH yesterday for no real reason at all. I found some of his old underwear (briefs, he switched to boxer-briefs when we found out about his low counts) in the laundry. I accused him of still wearing the old underwear (how stupid is this), and yelled at him for not doing everything he could to improve his counts, while I undergo all these tests and procedures. He said he wasn't wearing them anymore but he didn't want to throw them away. I threatened to throw them all away, starting yelling, crying. I am such a mess! We made up, but not after he accused me of wanting him to suffer along with me so I had company. I am afraid he is right to some extent.... I get really resentful that I had to go through all those appointments and uncomfortable tests and he doesn't really have to do anything. I know life isn't fair. And I want to do all of this stuff so we can have a baby. What is wrong with me!???

blueRhino

07-14-2008, 10:02 PM

WM I'm so sorry. You are in my thought!

Biomamma I hope you are feeling better. This whole thing is such an emotional roller coaster. I can only imagine adding drugs into the mix.

As for me the news is that DH and his swimmers are totally normal. Two weeks ago he went to a urologist who did a bunch of tests and ordered a s/a etc. He at that point learned he has a common condition that up to 1 in 6 men have that sometimes effects sperm sometimes not. (varicocele? not sure) So I think we were both kind of bracing ourselves for low counts, since something is obviously not adding up. I am going to make an appointment with a RE now and look into the next stuff... hsg etc. etc. I just wish we knew what the problem was....

biomama

07-15-2008, 06:13 AM

Tandy

07-15-2008, 02:59 PM

i am really hoping to ovulate well this month....

my doc recommended shots but i am just not ready for that yet (physically, emotionally and financially)....

so i am hoping that i can continue to work on this in a holistic way...

i am going to do some research about accupuncture in my area...i'll work more in the fall so maybe i'll start then...

i feel like time is just slipping through my fingers..

hope4light

07-15-2008, 04:55 PM

blue - I'm glad to hear that everything came back normal. Here's to hoping that you guys figure out what is going on and why!

Tandy - Hang in there, you are in my thoughts and prayers... such a sucky road IF is.... :hug

hope4light

07-15-2008, 05:15 PM

Quick update to my info:

hope4light TTC since March 2006 with MFI and slightly low progesterone. Currently TTC with IVF with ICSI, cycle 1 round 1 canceled due to hyper stimulation, cycle 1 round 2 antegon cycle canceled as ovulation started due to high e2 levels. Round 3 ER 7/9 and ET 7/12, beta 7/25.

blueRhino

07-15-2008, 06:11 PM

blue, that's great that your DH's swimmers are normal! Did they tell you about the counts (million/ml) or the morphology?

GL getting all the diagnostic tests. I just went through a lot of them this cycle, including the HSG last week. I'm happy to answer (or try to) questions you have about the process!

I didn't go to the appointment but dh says everything is normal. I am assuming they looked at all the counts that matter (although I know others have had issues with this...) because they seemed to have done quite a lot of tests including blood, urine, seman, prostate exam and ultrasound. It doesn't seem likely they would do all that and forget to check morphology!

However we are going to send all that info to the RE next month. I made the appointment today, finally. I feel anxious about it already. The place, as far as I can tell from their website, basically invented IVF. I am afraid they will be too aggressive for me and I will have trouble asserting myself, as I often do with doctors. IVF isn't even on the table though, ever, as it isn't covered (most everything else is) and we don't have 15,000. I really want to focus on diagnostic before we go any
further but am afraid they are going to want to jump straight ahead. It would be really really great to conceive this cycle so I don't even have to go to this appointment....

How's everyone else doing?

Yeah, how is everyone?

Hope, I hope this is your cycle!

Tandy I sympathize with your hesitation.

Everyone else?

crystal-mommy

07-15-2008, 06:23 PM

Mini meltdown for me again today... yay!! Dr gave me samples of proxeed for hubby to drink. even tho his sa was normal, he said it would help "boost" fertility. Well, Dh is refusing to drink it... he says it smells like "jiz" and there is no way he is going to drink it!!! I even bought OJ and mixed it hoping it would cover some of the smell and taste. I tasted it, it really isn't the best, but anyone should be able to chug 4 oz of it!! I was so pissed... I can go thru all these procedures and take meds and get upset every month.. and he can't even drink the freakin juice??? WTF!!! Not really sure what he thinks Clomid is like... but it sucked!! The Proxeed will not have any side effects, will actually help his overall health too. He said "if its going to happen... it will happen on its own!" Well, I did things his way for 3 yrs... no fertility meds or medical intervention. That got me diddly squat.. except 3 yrs older!! This is so frustrating!! :irked:

Also, I just found out my friend that draws my blood @ work isn't working on thurs when I need my progesterone drawn... so one of the other girls is going to have to draw it... I am such a hard stick :( (and a big baby about it!! )

Tandy

07-15-2008, 07:27 PM

Well, Dh is refusing to drink it... he says it smells like "jiz" and there is no way he is going to drink it!!!

omg!! i am amazed at men sometimes...

i keep asking my husband if he really wants a child he talks so little about this elephant in the room!!!

he kinda rolls his eyes and says "yes"...

i am going through all this shit and he seems to just sit back and wait...

maybe i am a little jealous...

poetgirl

07-15-2008, 09:28 PM

i feel like time is just slipping through my fingers..

:hug Tandy. Me too. A LOT, lately. I turn 35 in Oct. and as I wanted to have two or three kids, well, it's just slipping away.

I haven't updated here in a while because I'm been really down. At our IUI this month, my DH's super-excellent sample was wiped out due to a common infection or the antibiotics he had to take, neither of which was supposed to effect fert. So now it appears we are also dealing with m/f for some months to come at least. The utterly crappy thing is that we are in the process of relocating from CA to MI for DH to do a PhD fellowship, but our house hasn't sold, so he leaves Aug. 10 and I stay. I was going to bank swimmers and keep going but now I can't. It's been a really hard week and evidence yet again that I just can't control this.

Crys-mom, Forgive if this is off the wall, but perhaps buy your dh his fave spirit and pour a shot and tell him to throw back the proxeed and then chase it with the shot? (maybe that's not the healthiest idea) Could bring him back to his teen days and get what you want. :shrug Sorry, I know that's frustrating. p.s What's proxeed?

Blue, It's great you ruled out m/f and that you are very in touch with your reservations about the RE. I hope you don't have to go either, but knowing where you stand will help you cope when you're there. For the record, I wasn't looking forward either to that step, but I actually found it sort of clarifying.

Hope4Light, I'm praying for you sister! :1praying::1praying::1praying:
You've been through a lot. :hug

Weasley mum, Again, I'm so sorry. Thinking of you and sending you lots of :hug.

***My acup. raised a new idea with me yesterday. She says my heart energy is often low and what can happen when you are so fixated on fert. and preg. (understandably at this stage) it can "burn up" that core heart energy and leave little left for actually getting preg. In TCM the heart governs the uterus. Hmmm, I've always despised the don't think about it/give up/relax thing, which she said she was not trying to dish out, but somehow this explanation has shifted something slightly in me. WDYT?

biomama

07-16-2008, 07:06 AM

poetgirl, :hug that situation is so frustrating. It sucks that so much is out of your control. I hope things start getting easier soon. We are here for you! I don't know anything about TCM, but I do see the value in "letting go" a little bit. I'm not always sure how to do that, but I think obsessing and trying to plan/control everything is counterproductive. I am as guilty of trying to do that as anyone though.

crystal-mommy, did you see my rant earlier about DH's stupid underwear? I was almost happy to see your post because your feelings were so similar to mine! I know it's hard, and DHs can be so stubborn and seem like they don't understand what we are going through... And here comes the whole giving up control thing again. We can't control what our DHs do, or what our bodies are doing. And you can drive yourself crazy trying, right?

Tandy, ditto! Seems this is a common theme lately. :hug

blueRhino, I agree with poetgirl. Seeing the RE can be calming, reassuring, and in a way it takes the control away from you even more. But into the hands of a professional who is hopefully a caring and understanding person. I've been to 2 REs and one is the best and one is just kind of a factory and very blunt. His nurse told me to call when I get my period to come in for more testing, and I think you should never say when to an IF patient, always if you get your period. So I hope you have a good RE and s/he makes you feel at ease.

hope4light, GL! I am so nervous and excited for all of you on the IVF threads, I read them daily and sometimes wish I could post there :o.

As for me, I ended up not going to the RESOLVE meeting last night. A few things came up, including finding out my newly pg friend's fetus died. She is waiting for the m/c. It's pretty upsetting, and she is already baseline a bit depressed. She's the one I was about to tell about our IF struggles, but she told me that she was pg so I couldn't really say it after that. Now I don't know if the timing to tell her is worse or better. Obviously I'd wait a while anyway... she has to heal.

barose

07-16-2008, 10:57 AM

biomama - :hug for your friend

poetgirl - I'm not into the "just relax" thing either, especially when its coming from friends who know nothing about infertility, but for me, I think some of it holds water. Stress causes me to gain weight, lose sleep, or sleep too much, eat too much or too little so it would be crazy to think that it doesn’t affect fertility in some way.

crystal-mommy - No matter how many times I've been stuck, I still sweat in my chair when having my blood drawn. :hug

I would kindly remind your DH about all of the crap we have to go though: needles (in the office and with injectables), vaginal ultrasounds, pelvic exams, taking drugs that turns us into monsters, and so on. I think he can survive one nasty drink. :irked::eyesroll

jjawm - I hope that was really a BFP.

Everyone else - I haven’t forgotten about you!

Me - I called my ND yesterday (instead of my OB) to see what she recommends to start my period because that horrible Provera my OB gave me. ND called in an Rx for Prometreium which is much gentler for the mind and body. I've taken it years ago and totally forgot all about it! Of course the $50 co-payment because it doesn’t come in generic form pissed me off. Why is everything that is more natural and/or better for you always cost so much more.

I started taking it last night and between that and the 5-HTP that I'm taking, I'm a walking zombie!

biomama

07-16-2008, 11:32 AM

Me - I called my ND yesterday (instead of my OB) to see what she recommends to start my period because that horrible Provera my OB gave me. ND called in an Rx for Prometreium which is much gentler for the mind and body. I've taken it years ago and totally forgot all about it! Of course the $50 co-payment because it doesn’t come in generic form pissed me off. Why is everything that is more natural and/or better for you always cost so much more.

I started taking it last night and between that and the 5-HTP that I'm taking, I'm a walking zombie!

Barose, :hug All these meds take such a toll on us, don't they? I'm glad you got the better option, though I'm sorry it's more expensive. We've been keeping track of health related costs (almost all IF related) since we may reach the 7.5% mark and be able to deduct some of it from our taxes. It's amazing how much money we spend on this stuff, isn't it?

I hope you feel better soon.

hope4light

07-16-2008, 11:46 AM

biomama - that really sucks, I hope she hangs in there....

barose - hang in there, only, what, 10 days of the prometrium? It'll be over before you know it!! (gosh, if we all had a nickle for each time we said that in these threads, we'd all be rich!)

poetgirl - and of course in the midst of all this happening, you'll end up having to find that new RE. May the one you find be better, wiser, and smarter than the last. May he/she quickly make you that one thing that will make your life whole!

Tandy - I agree about the jealous part... I've thought that to myself, just recently. On the other hand, I know how much dh blames himself for putting us in this situation, and then I remind myself that we are just dealing with the same issue, but different aspects of it, and probably in completely different ways. But you're right, it is the elephant in the room that you can't stop staring at, but you sometimes pretend isn't there... and would just LOVE to move it out the front door, if only the DA** THING FIT!

crystal mommy - I agree, maybe try to get him to hit it up with a chaser of some type... I can't believe that he can't do that one little thing for you, I mean, come on, he's a guy, they all eat or drink something absurdly disgusting when they're kids, why not now?!
bluerhino I'm hoping that you won't need that appt, but at least it might help you to figure out what and why... hang in there.

Big :Hug to everyone!!

barose

07-16-2008, 11:51 AM

Barose, :hug All these meds take such a toll on us, don't they? I'm glad you got the better option, though I'm sorry it's more expensive. We've been keeping track of health related costs (almost all IF related) since we may reach the 7.5% mark and be able to deduct some of it from our taxes. It's amazing how much money we spend on this stuff, isn't it?

I hope you feel better soon.

Thanks mama! I know part of it is my insurance itself. I work for a smaller firm now vs. the larger F500 companies I worked for in the past where the benefits were soooo much better. Before, it covered all of my meds and all I needed was the standard small co-payment. At least my insurance covers my ND, so I'm very thankful about that!

barose - hang in there, only, what, 10 days of the prometrium? It'll be over before you know it!! (gosh, if we all had a nickle for each time we said that in these threads, we'd all be rich!)

Its seven days in my case this time: 2 taken and night and 1 taken in the morning.

crystal-mommy

07-16-2008, 07:32 PM

LMAO!! I actually told my DH i was going to buy his favorite beer and he could drink it after the proxeed!!

PoetgirlProxeed is just a bunch of vitamins and minerals that are supposed to help men w/ fertility issues. The dr gave me a bunch of free samples, this stuff is extremely expensive!! But no... DH can't do it, he is worse than a child sometimes!!

He has never been real excited about having another child... but once the baby gets here I know he will do fine w/ it. He is a wonderful dad to DD, and he wasn't real excited @ the beginning of my preg. My philosophy of why he is like this is that his brother became a dad @ a really young age and has always felt 'trapped' by fatherhood-his 2nd child was a "save the marriage" child, which of course never works really well! So, having a baby has never really been a good thing in his family.

Anyway, getting my progesterone done tomorrow. I can't believe I am 7dpo already... and haven't POAS!!! I am so proud of myself for that! it helps tht I had DH hide my tests last month... so i have no idea where they are! :wink

EastbayK

07-17-2008, 10:33 AM

Updated to here!

Sorry I've been a slacker this week. We've had bad news on several fronts to deal with and Kidzilla came home after 5 weeks away.

Saw my RE today and talked laprascopy vs straight to IVF. I'm going with the laprascopy b/c I still feel like it's a structural issue with us and not just a random sperm can't meet egg thing. We concieved twice before with no problems, why would it suddenly not work? So I'm on hold for 19 days until surgery on Aug 5. I've got a script for BCP's, but DH is egging me too just avoid sex this month and take a break from the hormones for a bit. I'll decide today...

Mara :grouphug I'm so sad to have to welcome you back to the group. We love having you here, but not under the circumstances of you not being able to stay PG. Any new ideas on why from the DR?

Stay strong everyone- somehow we'll all get through this!

kim

biomama

07-19-2008, 09:20 AM

how is everyone doing?

kim, you are a wonder woman for doing what you do! You're not a slacker :p What did you decide to do re BCP? GL in the lap. Keep us posted.

crystal-mommy, was your prog okay? that's a really interesting perspective on your dh. I wonder if mine had similar reactions - his dad became a father very very young, before he was ready. I think it may be why he wanted to wait to have kids, while I was ready years ago.

I got my prog on 6dpo and it was high enough (34) yay! so now I just have to keep waiting.

have a good weekend everyone!

crystal-mommy

07-19-2008, 09:31 PM

how is everyone doing?

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crystal-mommy, was your prog okay? that's a really interesting perspective on your dh. I wonder if mine had similar reactions - his dad became a father very very young, before he was ready. I think it may be why he wanted to wait to have kids, while I was ready years ago.

I got my prog on 6dpo and it was high enough (34) yay! so now I just have to keep waiting.

have a good weekend everyone!

My progesterone was 19... Dr says anything over 15 is good. Now, i just have to wait it out. (easier said than done!!) Dr. said that actually the lower number is better than last months 115... that is very abnormal. (can't really afford to be preg w/ quads or quints!!).

If I am not preg this month, going to have exp lap @ the end of the month. uck! really don't want to have ot do that. Anesthesia makes me puke for hours!!

No preg or pre-af symptoms so far... really surprised cause my BB's aren't sore this month, usually by now they are. Had some really bad cramping earlier today, hoping it was "something" burrowing in for 9 months!! Oh well, 3 more days... then I am getting a beta!

biomama

07-20-2008, 09:14 AM

yay crystal mommy! Glad your prog was good. My RE told me for a non-med cycle, above 10 is good, and for clomid, above 15. They also said not to read too much into the numbers since it can fluctuate during the day quite a bit, and they are just getting a snapshot.

my temp went down today, so now I'm worried I'm having the shortest LP ever. I'm only 9dpo! and it's down at the coverline :irked:

crystal-mommy

07-20-2008, 05:34 PM

biomama maybe that is an implantation dip :goodvibes

AAM I want to poas really really bad!! trying to hold off till @ least tomorrow!!

barose

07-20-2008, 05:42 PM

biomama - I hope thats an implantation dip!

crystal-mommy - Keeping my fingers crossed!

EastbayK - :hug

After 65 days, I'm on CD 2 and off the Prometrium! Now I can start my next steps.

Tandy

07-21-2008, 07:01 AM

unfortunately, i haven't ovulated and hubby leaving this morning for a business trip...i am hoping that all the BDing this weekend will still help since i have good CM...maybe the little spermies will live up there until i do...it should be any day now....

he is getting ready to go and doesn't really want to BD but what ya gonna do? i want the best chances..and my CM looks great this morning...

i think i am obsessed....

EastbayK

07-21-2008, 09:25 AM

Just checking in. I decided not to take the BCP's, more out of sheer laziness about getting to the pharmacy than anything. Surgery is scheduled for two weeks from tomorrow. I've got two days off after surgery, but I'm planning on coming back to work on friday b/c I have to do a training on the following monday. I'm really hoping that the lap will show something fixable.

I checked out a book about coping with infertility from the library and started reading it this weekend. I can only read it in small bits b/c it is so depressing. I just DONT WANT to accept that I am fighting infertility. I keep reading and thinking "but that's not me, I'll never be like that" when in fact I know in my heart that I AM that.

DH made a weird comment while at breakfast this weekend. He is dead set on not doing IVF. But also was like "well I need to have a bio-child". I'm sure he didn't mean it this way, but it felt like he was saying "well if you don't give me a child, I'll just take me and my sperm somewhere else". Which is rediculous b/c we have unexplained infertility and there is no guarantee that he could get any one else knocked up any easier.

:joy: to everyone else this week! Anyone coming up on test time?

Kim

songbird45

07-21-2008, 09:54 AM

I checked out a book about coping with infertility from the library and started reading it this weekend. I can only read it in small bits b/c it is so depressing. I just DONT WANT to accept that I am fighting infertility. I keep reading and thinking "but that's not me, I'll never be like that" when in fact I know in my heart that I AM that.

I understand this. I have been looking at various infertility blogs and I find that I can relate so much to what they say.. and I can't believe it's me thinking these things. It's like it's all happening to someone else, sometimes.

DH made a weird comment while at breakfast this weekend. He is dead set on not doing IVF. But also was like "well I need to have a bio-child". I'm sure he didn't mean it this way, but it felt like he was saying "well if you don't give me a child, I'll just take me and my sperm somewhere else". Which is rediculous b/c we have unexplained infertility and there is no guarantee that he could get any one else knocked up any easier.

He couldn't have possibly meant it like that. But what an insensitive thing to say.

Well, my update is that I'm halfway through the tww! I haven't had a tww since March so ... well, I'm sure you can all relate to this particular mix of scared and hopeful and impatient.

mischievium

07-21-2008, 05:10 PM

First, WELCOME to jelly_bean, erin_d_a, and mawandjls !

I had an ultrasound and my OB found nothing but a thick lining that wont shed. :(:(:(:gloomy::gloomy:

I guess incredibly sore, growing breasts for weeks means absolutely nothing (they have increased in size and pain over the past week). I should have temped this cycle but I am soooo bloody sick and tired of it!

Now she wants me to POAS in the AM "just in case" before starting progesterone (something I haven't had to take in several years). Why?? I dont know. If she didn't see anything in the ultrasound, there is nothing there.:crying

I know you posted this awhile back, but I wanted to just send you some :Hug :hug :Hug for having to go through such a rough cycle.

mischievium, I'm glad to see you! Good luck!!!

So, things I learned at the IUI this morning:
* Dh says that playboy actually has more articles than porn. He says that if you buy playboy and don't read the articles, you've wasted a lot of money.
* Dh also said that there were two check boxes for how the sperm was obtained. Obviously masturbation is one, but the other was "extraction" - he said that reading that set him back several minutes.
* IUI's are uncomfortable but not painful.
* They showed me a syringe with DH's name on it. This was supposed to reassure me that they were using his sperm. (um, okay.)

Thanks songbird! And I thought the same thing when they had me look at the vial with my DH's spermies-- I have no way of being sure that that's what was in the vial. :lol about the Playboy and the "extraction."

Quick update on me - I have my ET today, I'll be leaving in about 10 mins... I'm excited, nervous, scared, hopeful, and cautiously optimistic. Here's to hoping!

:1praying: :fingersx: :1praying: :fingersx: :1praying:

For anyone still counting, we found out (via u/s) that this pregnancy is a no-go, making it our fourth loss in a row. Now I'm in that exciting period of wondering if/when I'll miscarry naturally or whether I'll need a d'n'c. Fun times, fun times. Will somebody remind me why I keep putting myself through this?

I know I PMed you, but I just wanted to say, you are still in my thoughts :Hug.

I am super emotional lately too. (and tired. is that the hCG?) I flipped out at DH yesterday for no real reason at all. I found some of his old underwear (briefs, he switched to boxer-briefs when we found out about his low counts) in the laundry. I accused him of still wearing the old underwear (how stupid is this), and yelled at him for not doing everything he could to improve his counts, while I undergo all these tests and procedures. He said he wasn't wearing them anymore but he didn't want to throw them away. I threatened to throw them all away, starting yelling, crying. I am such a mess! We made up, but not after he accused me of wanting him to suffer along with me so I had company. I am afraid he is right to some extent.... I get really resentful that I had to go through all those appointments and uncomfortable tests and he doesn't really have to do anything. I know life isn't fair. And I want to do all of this stuff so we can have a baby. What is wrong with me!???

There's nothing wrong with you... although maybe the hormones are influencing things a bit :lol. But I just wanted to point out that being willing to go through all of this to have a baby ISN'T the same thing as choosing it. The procedures and meds are uncomfortable at best, often downright painful and it isn't fair that this is what I have to go through to have a chance of conceiving.

I think it can be even a bit trickier of a situation where there's a male factor issue because, on the one hand I want some empathy and understanding from my DH about what I have to endure, but I don't in anyway want to make him feel guilty and like I blame him. In fact, the morning before our first RE appointment, he was about 15 minutes late getting up, but insisted on making himself some tea and a bagel to eat in the car making us late leaving the house for an appointment that we had waited 6+ weeks for. Let's just say I was anxious about the appointment and a little ticked. I accept that if I get up late, then I might have to skip breakfast in order to be somewhere on time-- he doesn't skip breakfast for noone, ever. So I "yelled" (I used quotes because I didn't actually yell, but he could tell I was mad) at him about making us late for the appointment and that it made me feel like he was less invested in this process than I am. He got really defensive and it was really the first time that he expressed to me that he felt like I blamed him for all of this (which, really, I don't because a)I know he didn't choose this either and b) there may be something going on with me that is contributing to our difficulties) and the first time I got a sense of how guilty the male-factor issue it makes him feel. Man, infertilty is fun!

I didn't go to the appointment but dh says everything is normal. I am assuming they looked at all the counts that matter (although I know others have had issues with this...) because they seemed to have done quite a lot of tests including blood, urine, seman, prostate exam and ultrasound. It doesn't seem likely they would do all that and forget to check morphology!

However we are going to send all that info to the RE next month. I made the appointment today, finally. I feel anxious about it already. The place, as far as I can tell from their website, basically invented IVF. I am afraid they will be too aggressive for me and I will have trouble asserting myself, as I often do with doctors. IVF isn't even on the table though, ever, as it isn't covered (most everything else is) and we don't have 15,000. I really want to focus on diagnostic before we go any
further but am afraid they are going to want to jump straight ahead. It would be really really great to conceive this cycle so I don't even have to go to this appointment....

I know I sound like a broken record, but everyone has to have their soap box, right? :lol Make sure your DH had a STRICT morphology done, it is different than the standard morphology (uses stricter criteria for evaluating sperm, usually done at a specialized lab). Also, my DH ended up having anti-sperm antibodies (ASA), although his regular SA looked great. ASA is somewhat rare, but it's something to ask about as you travel down the path of diagnosis-- I only say this because I have heard too many stories of women being put through all manner of invasive test and only to finally have a sperm analysis that looked for ASA done and then they find out that was the reason for their "unexplained" infertility. Just something to tuck away in the back of your mind.

He said "if its going to happen... it will happen on its own!" Well, I did things his way for 3 yrs... no fertility meds or medical intervention. That got me diddly squat.. except 3 yrs older!! This is so frustrating!! :irked:

I would have had a meltdown, too :Hug.

My progesterone was 19... Dr says anything over 15 is good. Now, i just have to wait it out. (easier said than done!!)

:fingersx::dust:fingersx:

***My acup. raised a new idea with me yesterday. She says my heart energy is often low and what can happen when you are so fixated on fert. and preg. (understandably at this stage) it can "burn up" that core heart energy and leave little left for actually getting preg. In TCM the heart governs the uterus. Hmmm, I've always despised the don't think about it/give up/relax thing, which she said she was not trying to dish out, but somehow this explanation has shifted something slightly in me. WDYT?

You know what I think about the "just relax" philosophy :p. But what she was saying sounds slightly different. I don't know-- is there a way to peacefully co-exist with infertility? I think finding ways to experience joy while trying to get through the day-to-day of infertility is important, if not very difficult at times. I think what usually bothers me about the "just relax" "be positive" camp is that they seem to expect you to do that without first processing the negative side of what is going on. I think fear and sadness and anger are generally more easily banished when first drug out into the light of day and acknowledged. Anyway, sorry to wax philosophical... :wink

Just checking in. I decided not to take the BCP's, more out of sheer laziness about getting to the pharmacy than anything. Surgery is scheduled for two weeks from tomorrow. I've got two days off after surgery, but I'm planning on coming back to work on friday b/c I have to do a training on the following monday. I'm really hoping that the lap will show something fixable.

I checked out a book about coping with infertility from the library and started reading it this weekend. I can only read it in small bits b/c it is so depressing. I just DONT WANT to accept that I am fighting infertility. I keep reading and thinking "but that's not me, I'll never be like that" when in fact I know in my heart that I AM that.

DH made a weird comment while at breakfast this weekend. He is dead set on not doing IVF. But also was like "well I need to have a bio-child". I'm sure he didn't mean it this way, but it felt like he was saying "well if you don't give me a child, I'll just take me and my sperm somewhere else". Which is rediculous b/c we have unexplained infertility and there is no guarantee that he could get any one else knocked up any easier.

Was your DH maybe thinking out loud... like first saying that he doesn't want to persue IVF, but then realizing that he wants a bio child which may necessitate going down a path he doesn't think he wants to go down?

I imagine that accepting that you may now be dealing with Infertility-with-a-capital-I must be harder if you've already successfully conceived-- not that it's a title I readily adopted, but it was a little harder to deny. Hugs for you, K! :Hug

Anyone coming up on test time?

Maybe. If AF doesn't show in the next 2 days.

crystal-mommy

07-21-2008, 08:59 PM

DH made a weird comment while at breakfast this weekend. He is dead set on not doing IVF. But also was like "well I need to have a bio-child". I'm sure he didn't mean it this way, but it felt like he was saying "well if you don't give me a child, I'll just take me and my sperm somewhere else". Which is rediculous b/c we have unexplained infertility and there is no guarantee that he could get any one else knocked up any easier.

Kim

Maybe he is trying to talk himself into the IVF a little bit. Like going back and forth w/ the pros and cons. Next time he makes a comment like that, ask what he means. I know we tend to "misinterpret" things w/ our whacked out emotions.. and read way too many things into what DH's say. We can't help it, its called interferility!!! We be crazy sometimes!! :Hug

ps did they want you to do the bcps or avoid sex because of the lap?? when are you supposed to have the lap?

Tandy

07-22-2008, 04:44 AM

i just got a peak on my monitor...hubby is gone on a business trip...that would put BD 2 and 3 days before O with E CM....nothing closer to O...:irked:

i wonder if i should take a road trip to where he is (3 hours away) to BD...or is that crazy?

going through this journey, one can never tell what's too much :wink

biomama

07-22-2008, 06:09 AM

well, Kim, I would be testing soon if my temps hadn't plummeted. Now it's not worth wasting the test. AF is for sure on her way. :( This was our last IUI try, so now the plan is to get my polyp removed, and then do an IVF or mini-IVF cycle in September.

Tandy, that might be fun! If you think it won't be stressful to drive, I say go for it!

mischievium, thanks for your words on my situation and m/f. I think that we may have another problem too (aside from my polyp) because otherwise these IUIs should have worked. DH gave 50 million for my first IUI, which was on the day I ovulated. That's pretty good, but still, it didn't work. :irked: I really appreciated everyone sharing their stories after that post where I was so upset with myself. You guys are such a supportive group. Thanks... :grouphug

well, I have to finish packing for my trip. See you all next week! I hope to come back to many good reports! :joy:

songbird45

07-22-2008, 08:03 AM

EastbayK

07-22-2008, 08:09 AM

Thanks ladies! I think he will come around to IVF, eventually. His barber, a very chatty lady, (whom he sees every 2 weeks on the dot) has a niece who just had triplets via IVF and he came home talking about that yesterday. But hopefully we won't have to go that route. I'm petrified of having multiples, not only because of the how am I going to take care of more than one baby, but also because I am very petite and I just don't know if my body can handle it. So we'll see.

Surgery is two weeks from today. The BCP's were for the laprascopy, to make sure I wasn't pregnant when they did it. So we'll just avoid sex around that time instead.

Kim

biomama

07-22-2008, 08:32 AM

So my temp has been trending downward the last few days, and while there's still some hope I'm starting to mentally prepare myself for next cycle. Is doing an hsg worthwhile? What if it's not covered by insurance?

I'm not sure it's worthwhile... if you have to pay for it, I would think about what you would do differently if you got a certain result from it. For example, if it's all clear, do you do a whole bunch more IUIs? If there is a problem, will you move on to IVF? Or, would you do IVF either way? If you will very clearly do something different depending on the outcome of the test, then the test is probably worth it. does that make sense?

Kim, I'm glad you and your DH are working through this issue. It is very difficult to accept that you may have to do IVF. I am at that point now, but our roles are flipped... DH has always been very excited about IVF since he feels it represents our best hope of having a baby. For me, I'm terrified. I'm worried I'll have a lot of physical issues, and that it will be unbearable emotionally. The biggest worry (of course) is that it won't work - that we won't get any embryos at all. I also worry about spending that much money for something that may not work. I feel on the one hand that's what our savings are for, some emergency situation or dire need (which is what I feel this is). But on the other hand, it feels scary to spend our savings and then not have that money anymore (either for some other emergency, or for (hopefully) a baby).

sorry I went on so long. How are you feeling about the surgery? Be sure to keep us posted.

crystal-mommy, did you test? How are you doing?

How is everyone else????

Tandy

07-22-2008, 11:48 AM

i'm not going bc it's too stressful and i have to work a bit tomorrow around lunch time...

i am starting to get a little depressed...i sometimes don't ovulate...or at least not with so much EWCM....

i feel like it might be wasted...

but my mucous was good when we BD'd monday late morning...i am hoping those spermies are waiting in there...

i am getting to know everyone by reading posts here....it's kinda overwhelming coming to a new place...but i'll get used to it and give more support eventually...

crystal-mommy

07-22-2008, 12:13 PM

So my temp has been trending downward the last few days, and while there's still some hope I'm starting to mentally prepare myself for next cycle. Is doing an hsg worthwhile? What if it's not covered by insurance?

So my temp has been trending downward the last few days, and while there's still some hope I'm starting to mentally prepare myself for next cycle. Is doing an hsg worthwhile? What if it's not covered by insurance?

My dr told me that an hsg is an ok test... but doesn't really give definite answers (unless it is a tubal problem-and nothing else.) He says its quite uncomfortable and he would much rather do an exp lap w/ a chromopertubation. (they shoot dye thru your tubes-sorta like an hsg) but @ the same time they can make sure you don't have any other issues, like endometriosis or adhesions. Kinda kill 2 birds w/ one stone. Plus, the hsg can be quite uncomfortable since you are awake during the procedure.

AAM I tested yesterday w/ an internet cheapie.. BFN, of course. Didn't expect anything else. Going to have a beta tonight @ work, but not feelnig really hopefuly. Back and lower belly kinda crampy...
I told DH yesterday tht it was negative and he said "its still kinda early to test isn't it... u might still be!" Tht was so sweet of him!! He was trying to encourage me...

songbird45

07-22-2008, 02:33 PM

crystal-mommy, I've got my fingers crossed for both of us. :) The tww is nerve wracking, isn't it?

Here's a story. I called up a friend last night (who knows we've been having difficulty but who isn't up on all the gory details) and he heard my voice and asked, all excited, "Are you pregnant???" I answered with quite a bit of vehemence, "No!!!" and I'm not sure he thought anything of it. I emailed him today politely asking him not to bring up the topic unless I brought it up first, citing a number of reasons (I don't always want to talk about it, I may not want to announce a pregnancy right away) and he responded, all embarrassed, and apologized. Ok, so far so good. THen he asked if it would be inappropriate to mention my difficulties to mutual friends who asked how I was doing.

GAH!!! Good lord, doesn't that go without saying??? Now I'm worried, wondering who all he might have told. *headdesk*

crystal-mommy

07-23-2008, 02:40 AM

Songbird Good grief!! Your friend needs to learn some manners AND some tact!!! When are you going to test? Good luck... I am really hoping you get your bfp!!

AAM Beta was negative, which I expected. pretty sure I am going to start either today or tomorrow. Been really crampy for a day now... Going to have my lap next week hopefully-hoping that gives us some answers. I am NOT the type of person that likes to cry around other ppl... but my friends @ work all are so sympathetic... thought I was going to cry!! UGH!! that makes it so much worse, I DONT want ppl feeling sorry for me!! So, trying to brush it off as no big deal (which of course it is a HUGE deal) until I get home and can meltdown w/ DH. :(

MeadowMom

07-23-2008, 10:06 AM

Wondering if I could join in here?
DH and I have been TTC for 6 years now.
I was dx with PCOS, and blocked tube.
After a failed cycle of clomid, moved onto an RE.
A summer of weight loss, and metformin, and a follow up HSG, to see that my tubes are now both clear and wide open.
DH and I will cycle next month, with injections and letrozole:joy:

barose

07-23-2008, 11:24 AM

MeadowMom - :hug I hope your stay here short. GL next month!

crystal-mommy - :hug I am so sorry. I know sympathy from others is difficult. I don’t like to cry in front of others either. But hey, it’s better than nasty comments from them!

songbird45 - Some people just don’t....think. :hug

Tandy - Welcome!

Me – CD 5 and its been a very heavy period. Fortunately, it is pretty painless. Maybe its because I’ve been working out almost daily. But whatever it is, I’m thankful I’m not curled up in a ball with a hot water bottle. I just need to be careful at work not to have an “accident”. It’s happened before.

mischievium

07-23-2008, 01:07 PM

Here's a story. I called up a friend last night (who knows we've been having difficulty but who isn't up on all the gory details) and he heard my voice and asked, all excited, "Are you pregnant???" I answered with quite a bit of vehemence, "No!!!" and I'm not sure he thought anything of it. I emailed him today politely asking him not to bring up the topic unless I brought it up first, citing a number of reasons (I don't always want to talk about it, I may not want to announce a pregnancy right away) and he responded, all embarrassed, and apologized. Ok, so far so good. THen he asked if it would be inappropriate to mention my difficulties to mutual friends who asked how I was doing.

GAH!!! Good lord, doesn't that go without saying??? Now I'm worried, wondering who all he might have told. *headdesk*

:shake Wow. Here's to hoping that he actually asked before tell and hasn't told a whole bunch of people :hug.

AAM Beta was negative, which I expected. pretty sure I am going to start either today or tomorrow. Been really crampy for a day now... Going to have my lap next week hopefully-hoping that gives us some answers. I am NOT the type of person that likes to cry around other ppl... but my friends @ work all are so sympathetic... thought I was going to cry!! UGH!! that makes it so much worse, I DONT want ppl feeling sorry for me!! So, trying to brush it off as no big deal (which of course it is a HUGE deal) until I get home and can meltdown w/ DH. :(

:Hug crystal-mommy

Wondering if I could join in here?
DH and I have been TTC for 6 years now.
I was dx with PCOS, and blocked tube.
After a failed cycle of clomid, moved onto an RE.
A summer of weight loss, and metformin, and a follow up HSG, to see that my tubes are now both clear and wide open.
DH and I will cycle next month, with injections and letrozole:joy:
Welcome! MeadowMom! And :joy:for the unblocked tube, good luck!

Me – CD 5 and its been a very heavy period. Fortunately, it is pretty painless. Maybe its because I’ve been working out almost daily. But whatever it is, I’m thankful I’m not curled up in a ball with a hot water bottle. I just need to be careful at work not to have an “accident”. It’s happened before.

:Hug I'm glad to hear that if you have to go though a heavy AF, at least it isn't super painful.

mischievium

07-23-2008, 01:08 PM

If anyone has time, I could use your thoughts on a thread of mine (http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?p=11760945#post11760945)... :p

barose

07-23-2008, 01:12 PM

If anyone has time, I could use your thoughts on a thread of mine (http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?p=11760945#post11760945)... :p

Congrats!! :joy:

songbird45

07-23-2008, 01:13 PM

Congratulations, mischeivium! :) You created this thread, and I'm happy to see you graduate!

mischievium

07-23-2008, 02:54 PM

Congratulations, mischeivium! :) You created this thread, and I'm happy to see you graduate!

Thanks! I do have to say, I feel a bit sheepish. I never expected it would happen this cycle. I really thought we were IVF-bound and I was just giving the IUI the old college try first. Well... I guess we all now have a story to counter the "just be positive and it will happen" crowd :lol. Because until about 11dpiui, I was SURE that it wasn't going to work. Then I started feeling a weird slight ache/ fullness in the ovary/ uterus areas and, while I usually have breast tenderness toward the end of my cycle, this time I had that and NIPPLE tenderness. Off to get my blood test... :fingersx:

songbird45

07-23-2008, 03:08 PM

Thanks! I do have to say, I feel a bit sheepish. I never expected it would happen this cycle. I really thought we were IVF-bound and I was just giving the IUI the old college try first. Well... I guess we all now have a story to counter the "just be positive and it will happen" crowd :lol. Because until about 11dpiui, I was SURE that it wasn't going to work. Then I started feeling a weird slight ache/ fullness in the ovary/ uterus areas and, while I usually have breast tenderness toward the end of my cycle, this time I had that and NIPPLE tenderness. Off to get my blood test... :fingersx:

I'm really happy to hear you say that. Because in my head I know that my attitude has nothing to do with conception / implantation / etc (otherwise nobody would ever have a surprise or unwanted pregnancy!) but every time I tell myself "I know I'm not pregnant!" (which alternates with "I must be pregnant!" ha) I wonder if I am somehow jinxing it. This whole thing just makes you completely crazy, doesn't it? Anyway, your story makes me feel better about not jinxing it!

Tandy

07-23-2008, 03:51 PM

yay!! i am glad you relaxed and let it happen :eyesroll :rotflmao

so happy for you!

barose

07-23-2008, 03:56 PM

Ha really!

I'm trying to be a bit more laid back about all of this. I just about had a break down a few weeks go. I was at the worst I have ever been since my loss.

Now, I'm all about self-care, relaxing and enjoying the other things in life (with the help of thearpy, 5-HTP, daily excercise, etc) Not easy sometimes, I tell ya, but its worth it!

Tandy

07-23-2008, 04:15 PM

what is "5-HTP?"

maybe i need some....

mischievium

07-23-2008, 04:45 PM

yay!! i am glad you relaxed and let it happen :eyesroll :rotflmao

so happy for you!

Yes, moving states while going through your first medicated cycle is SOOOO relaxing. Interestingly, the negative attitude and busyness kept me from obsessing that much during the 2WW... until about 11dpiui, that is. And let's just say that virtually nothing has gotten done in the past few days :lol .

Ha really!

I'm trying to be a bit more laid back about all of this. I just about had a break down a few weeks go. I was at the worst I have ever been since my loss.

Now, I'm all about self-care, relaxing and enjoying the other things in life (with the help of thearpy, 5-HTP, daily excercise, etc) Not easy sometimes, I tell ya, but its worth it!

See, now that's what I think the "relaxing" is good for-- It's not that you will suddenly get pregnant because you "relaxed," but rather it's about trying to find a way to have some quality of life while dealing with infertility. Good for you, barose. You have always impressed me with all the positive changes you've been able to make for yourself (weight/ lifestyle- wise).

That all said, this was definitely decidedly NOT a relaxing few weeks in the mischievium household :lol!

barose

07-23-2008, 05:05 PM

Yes, moving states while going through your first medicated cycle is SOOOO relaxing. Interestingly, the negative attitude and busyness kept me from obsessing that much during the 2WW... until about 11dpiui, that is. And let's just say that virtually nothing has gotten done in the past few days :lol .

See, now that's what I think the "relaxing" is good for-- It's not that you will suddenly get pregnant because you "relaxed," but rather it's about trying to find a way to have some quality of life while dealing with infertility. Good for you, barose. You have always impressed me with all the positive changes you've been able to make for yourself (weight/ lifestyle- wise).

That all said, this was definitely decidedly NOT a relaxing few weeks in the mischievium household :lol!

Thank you. :hug Sometimes you get to the point that something has to change.

what is "5-HTP?"

maybe i need some....

Check out this thread of mine http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=919815 I go in to it towards the end. Let me know if you have more questions. :thumb

hope4light

07-24-2008, 07:02 AM

Mischievium - I posted this on the other one too, but I had to say it again,

CONGRATULATIONS!!!

Here's to sticky baby vibes, and a happy and healthy 9 months!!!

EastbayK

07-24-2008, 08:13 AM

Congratulations Mischievium!!! HH9M:joy:

AAM- Going back to charting to avoid this month is an interesting twist. Trying to decide if I've got fertile CM and I need to avoid is much more challenging than knowing that if it's not fertile CM we can just keep doing it until I ovulate.

K

Aly22681

07-24-2008, 12:53 PM

I just wanted to poke my head and (as per requested) let you ladies know that I just got back from my u/s and I'm having TWINS!!

I honestly could not have done it with out you ladies support over the last 18 months! Ya'll are the best! :dust

Julia'sMom

07-24-2008, 01:27 PM

Mischeivium - :joy: CONGRATULATIONS!!!!! :joy:

Aly - Wow! Twins! :love :love

I wish you both a very happy and healthy nine months! :joy:

I do still lurk on this forum, even though I don't post much. I just wanted to offer :hug :Hug to all of those who need them and are facing another cycle. I'm currently in the tww after ivf and trying not to think about it. :wink

crystal-mommy

07-24-2008, 03:42 PM

mischievium

07-24-2008, 04:02 PM

Thanks for all the congrats!

I just got the result of my first beta hCG-- a very healthy 148!!! :joy:Definitely NOT leftovers from the shot :lol! That fear has now been firmly put to rest. They want me to come back in 2-3 days for a follow-up.

I just wanted to poke my head and (as per requested) let you ladies know that I just got back from my u/s and I'm having TWINS!!

:bgbounce:bgbounceCongratulations times two, Aly!!!!:bgbounce:bgbounce

I do still lurk on this forum, even though I don't post much. I just wanted to offer :hug :Hug to all of those who need them and are facing another cycle. I'm currently in the tww after ivf and trying not to think about it. :wink

:fingersx::fingersx::dust:fingersx::fingersx:

Tandy

07-24-2008, 06:32 PM

congrats, Aly!!!

i hope to find this place as much of a support as you did!!!

Aly22681

07-24-2008, 08:16 PM

mischievium: CONGRATS right back at you!!!! :jumpers:

MeadowMom

07-24-2008, 08:35 PM

mischievium, and Aly Huge congrats!

:balloons

blueRhino

07-24-2008, 10:03 PM

mischievium Congratulations!!

Aly - wow twins. That is so exciting!

It is good to see so some good news over here on this board. Hopefully it is contagious.

I have been lurking rather quietly mostly because I don't have much to say. I am in the two week wait. I am trying to decide if I should move my cover line because two crazy temps before ovulation have put it really high. Obviously it doesn't really matter, whatever is or isn't going on inside of me has nothing to do with a silly line. I am trying to be cautiously optimistic. My CM seemed to have dried up really early this month, which is disconcerning. However we BD a lot both with fertile CM and also right at ovulation.

Wishing everyone the best.

Held

07-24-2008, 10:28 PM

May I join please?

I am 38 married to hubby 37 and we have been ttc #1 since 2005 (although no prevention since we were wed in late 2002)

Found out last year we are dealing with mild MFI (low motility) and unexplained. Not sure about IUI and Clomid which the RE suggested to us and really would like to do something proactive considering my age but money is a factor. Praying and hoping that somehow with the help of prayers, Vit C, E and Zinc for husband, we will be blessed. If not I believe next year we may pursue ART after we have saved some money. I'll be 39 soon and so long to be a mother.

Stay blessed!

Tandy

07-25-2008, 04:41 AM

hope4light

07-25-2008, 07:33 AM

Aly - Twins? That is really wonderful!!!

Held - Welcome, and as we always say, I hope your stay here is short!

I had my beta today, and now I'm just waiting for the results... I didn't POAS, so I really have no clue at this point, but I'm hoping for some good news sometime today!!!

songbird45

07-25-2008, 08:37 AM

Held

07-25-2008, 01:02 PM

Thanks for the welcome songbird45 :)

crystal-mommy

07-25-2008, 08:00 PM

Congrats on the twins, Aly! Here's hoping for a boring, uncomplicated pregnancy and two healthy babies at the end!

Held, welcome. This group has been great for me, I hope it's as helpful to you!

hope4light and bluerhino: good luck! :fingersx:

Me: Temp drop this morning. I'd been spotting for the last two days, but I held out hope until I saw this morning's temp. I called the clinic about more drugs and possibly an hsg. I called and insurance covers it. So I decided to go for it. If there's a problem with blocked tubes, there's no reason to waste more time with IUI's..

My thoughts exactly!! Doesn't matter how many follicles, ovulation, progesterone or sperm are available if something is blocked!! Good luck!! I scheduled my lap for next thursday. Hopefully, if there is something wrong, it can easily be fixed. I guess we get to be cycle buddies again... hopefully for the last time!! :)

Held

07-25-2008, 11:28 PM

Tandy and hope4light thanks for the welcome. I must have missed your posts somehow :o

Many congrats to those with baby blessings on the way :)

crystal-mommy

07-26-2008, 07:10 AM

question?? Af showed up in full force yesterday (friday). Should I count my period as having started on thursday when I started spotting?? Or friday when it got a little heavier?? Usually it doesn't matter, but I have to start taking Femara on CD 3 (either today or tomorrow-not sure which to pick!!) Last month I didn't spot just started AF. thanks!!

Tandy

07-26-2008, 08:44 AM

my nurse says it's the day of the first full flow...

songbird45

07-26-2008, 12:21 PM

1st day of full flow (not just spotting)... but honestly it's not terribly crucial. My doc said that they use Femara days 3-7 but if you can't get the script filled in time (like if AF starts on the weekend and you can't get a hold of the office until Monday or something), 4-8 or 5-9 will work too.

soc

07-26-2008, 06:31 PM

Well, I FINALLY got to see a RE after MONTHS of waiting!
After assessing our case:
* 30 yo female & 34 yo male
* Trying for 22 cycles
* Don't drink or smoke
* Home fertility tests appear 'normal'
the RE decided that we should try IUI until December... and if nothing happened we would need to consider IVF.

So, here I am... a newbie to this thread!

I had my appointment on CD7... and luckily the clinic managed to squeeze me in for a SIS on CD10 (otherwise I would have been waiting till next month). Upon having my SIS, the Doc said everything looked good... he even got a glimpse of a 'nice big follicle' which meant I would O in 24-48hrs - sure enough he was right.

I'm currently on antibiotics, as a safety measure following the SIS, and DH is scheduled for a SA on 5th Aug. I will be starting all the drugs when my next cycle starts in early August... and going for more bloods on CD2.
The whole 'self-inducing' needle thing will be a bit scary! :eek But at the same time, I can't wait to make a start! :D

hope4light

07-28-2008, 07:07 AM

Please update me:

hope4light TTC since March 2006 with MFI and slightly low progesterone. Currently TTC with IVF with ICSI, cycle 1 round 1 and 2 canceled. Round 3 left me with a BFN.

Thanks....

Tandy

07-28-2008, 07:27 AM

well, i ovulated (so says fertility friend)...but it was 3 days after the last time we BD'd bc hubby was away on business...so i highly doubt i will get pregnant...

i told him that if they want him to travel again during my O time that i am going with him!

i hate wasting a perfectly good ovulation!!

anyone else know the feeling?

songbird45

07-28-2008, 12:51 PM

crystal-mommy

07-29-2008, 02:36 AM

Ha, Tandy, yes. In my case it's from having super irregular cycles and missing O just because, really, why would I have expected to ovulate on day 74?

So I have an HSG scheduled for Thursday afternoon. They said if I'm still bleeding they'll have to cancel it. I usually have some spotting on day 7... any ideas on how to, um, encourage the period to end sooner? Vigorous exercise, maybe? Sex?

Good question!! I was wondering the same thing. Having my lap done on thursday also, and sometimes I have some spotting a few days after AF is done. I think I am going to try sex... that will sometimes make me spot sooner... we will see. Good luck!!

AAM Round 2 of femara... quite emotional the last couple of days. Have managed to get into TWO arguments @ work in less than 12 hours!!! That is so not like me.. I usually bite my tongue and move on. Pretty sure I am tired of that... if they piss me off, going to tell them all about it!! Vacation is coming soon... I soooooo need some time off!!

barose

07-29-2008, 02:18 PM

well, i ovulated (so says fertility friend)...but it was 3 days after the last time we BD'd bc hubby was away on business...so i highly doubt i will get pregnant...

You can get pregnant as late as 5 days before O. I wouldnt throw in the towel yet!

Tandy

07-29-2008, 03:07 PM

barose~~i know....but it seems so unlikely...just does...

BUT~i am getting more tired by the day...(i am 5 DPO)....but you know how you can play tricks on yourself...

i'm hoping the unlikely will happen though...that would be nice...

it's just all the months of better timing than that didn't get me pregnant...wouldn't that be funny if this were the one?

Tandy

07-29-2008, 03:22 PM

i am also wondering if my chart this month shows what you would call a "slow rise?"

i haven't really seen this before on my charts...

Julia'sMom

07-29-2008, 09:57 PM

Please update me:

hope4light TTC since March 2006 with MFI and slightly low progesterone. Currently TTC with IVF with ICSI, cycle 1 round 1 and 2 canceled. Round 3 left me with a BFN.

Thanks....

I just wanted to send you another big :Hug and :hug. Take care of yourself. . .

songbird45

07-30-2008, 08:24 AM

Tandy, I really have no idea... charting isn't an exact science, so it could mean anything. The only way to know for sure is to wait...

sharibollers

07-30-2008, 12:52 PM

Hello All,

I am new to the site, and to the pregnancy area. Although I am over 40, I never got pregnant. This month, I decided to try using fertility drugs (Follistim) with IUI. I tested today (2 weeks after) and got a negative, as some of you say BFN. I am seeing my doc on Friday....... Presently, it’s like the end of the world for me. I never tried to get pregnant before, and now that I tried, I failed.

Shari

biomama

07-30-2008, 03:02 PM

hi ladies,

I'm back from my trip, during which I got my BFN and AF :( we are done with IUI now.

We are on to IVF but now I have to wait until October to even get our IVF consultation! I'm so bummed. I'm on the cancellation list and I'm hoping we can get in earlier, but that seems like so long to wait. We've already been waiting so long...

I'm also getting my polyp removed on Friday. :innocent I'm a little scared and worried but also trying to remind myself it's not such a big deal.

I can't believe how much news I missed! I have been reading back posts, and it seems some congrats are in order! Aly and Kiki, twins!!! So exciting. I'm so happy for you both.

And for those who didn't get the news we all wanted this month, :hug. It's so hard, and it seems to just get harder. hope4light, I was so hoping for you this time. We are here for you if you want to vent, share, etc. I'm so sorry.

Tandy

07-30-2008, 03:16 PM

(((((((((sharibollers)))))))))))

welcome!!

Lola88

07-30-2008, 04:31 PM

Hi. My name is Lola and I am 37 years old (38 in December). We have been ttc since October 2005. Finally got BFP in March '08 only to m/c at 9 weeks. Started my first round of clomid 3 days ago, and we are starting our first IUI in September.

My question is the timing. We live 3 hours from the clinic. Are we going to be too late when I detect my surge?

Any advice is welcome!!

Held

07-30-2008, 06:49 PM

Lola welcome!

So very sorry for your loss.

In regards to timing. I would definitely consider staying overnight if you can before the IUI, a friend elsewhere did that as well as another who lives quite far for her IVF transfer.

I hope that you are blessed soon with a super-sticky bean!

crystal-mommy

07-31-2008, 06:32 AM

biomama

07-31-2008, 07:21 AM

getting ready to go back to surgery. Am pretty nervous now, and starved to death!! Any other time wouldn't even be thinking about food @ this time!! Scared that he will find something bad... but also scared he won't find anything @ all and this infertility will still be unexplained...

Songbird Good luck w/ your hsg!! I hope we both get good news today!

GOOD LUCK! I'm sure everything will be fine and they will find some nice fix-able easy little problem that once solved, will change everything!!! Let us know how it goes!!!

Shari and Held and Lola, :w I hope you all graduate really soon! and I hope you find the support you need here.

songbird45

07-31-2008, 07:35 AM

Has anyone volunteered to be threadkeeper for August? I can do it if you like...

biomama

07-31-2008, 08:22 AM

My question is the timing. We live 3 hours from the clinic. Are we going to be too late when I detect my surge?

Any advice is welcome!!

Hi Lola, and welcome to our group!

I don't think you will be too late. I have had my IUIs scheduled for the day after the surge. If you do your OPK in the afternoon, around 2pm, you will detect your surge and still have time to call the clinic and schedule your appointment for the next day. Of course, your clinic may be different, so you should follow their directions, but in my experience this shouldn't be a problem.

Songbird, I had spotting the day of my HSG. They said it was fine... If you are worried about it, you could try doing some kegels. I find exercise gets more blood to come out, too. GOOD LUCK! I hope your HSG is painless and reveals nice open tubes!

hope4light

07-31-2008, 08:42 AM

Hey All,

I've been hiding away for the past week, and decided that I needed to make an attempt at coming out of my shell, if you know what I mean... :hide::bag:

I first wanted to say Welcome to those of you that are new this week, and as everyone else has already said, I hope that your stay is short and graduation comes quickly.

Julia's Mom - I know I didn't post it on the IVF Thread, but I wanted to give you a big fat congratulations, and here's to a healthy and happy, and uneventful 9 months. I can't wait to hear about the heartbeat u/s!!

It seems that every month over the past couple of years when AF showed were all really bad... then the canceled IVF cycle's were monsters, but for me this BFN from IVF has really just hit me at the core. I can't seem to function, I can't seem to find joy in the little things that always seemed to help me through the crappy times. I feel like I'm dragging DH down as he is trying to deal with his own grief. I canceled my last appt with my counselor, and I can't seem to see how she can help right now. I'm trying to remember everything that I have good in my life - I know that there is a lot. But my world has stopped turning and I can't seem to jump start it for the life of me.

Every little thing that we see or do makes me think of my little babies that didn't make it, that didn't get a chance to be held within my womb, at my breast, or simply in my arms. I'm afraid that it will never happen, worse than before. I mean, we've tried the 'last option' to have a bio child, and it failed, miserably. No frozens, no sticky beans, nothing. I know that we can try again, but if it didn't work the first time, how in the world can I expect it to happen the second try?

I'm sorry for dumping, but I'm hoping that getting it all out will help, even though it seems futile right now. :gloomy:

BTW - AF on Saturday was hellish - the worst cramps, the heaviest flow, tons of clots... you get the point.....

I also wanted to thank everyone for their kind words and prayers thoughout my entire cycle, especially after my BFN. It means so much to me that I have so many people that care, and that can understand like no one else in my life can. Right now you are the only people that I want to even think about talking to about the whole mess, I don't want to hear someones condolences that has no clue... that's just too much for me right now.