June Mama's October 25 to October 31

[DoulaSarah]

June Mama's new Thread for 10/25 to 10/31


Hey mama's!! How about we start a new thread every Saturday!! That way it doesn't get too full... And how about each week, whoever starts the thread, gets to ask a question to get us talking..(as if we are having any problems doing that!)



So here is the question....


What are you doing to combat morning sickness?
(If you don't have morning sickness, I am secretly giving you the evil eye...hehe)




Here is what I am doing. I drink a gallon of water every day, which is gross now that I don't feel good. I eat vanilla wafers instead of crackers because they are sweeter but just as effective. I am drinking Mothers Milk tea in the morning instead of coffee. I am taking B vitamins which help a lot! I am eating more little meals. And by the way, the more water I drink the better I feel. It is amazing. And I have distilled water with clary sage, peppermint and lavender (really strong when they are all mixed together) and I keep it is a spray bottle in the fridge and I spray my face when i feel ill. It makes me feel normal for a little while which is great!

How about you?

[catlvr976]

Hello to everyone!! And congrats to all the newcomers!!

Sorry to change the subject from morning sickness, but, I just came back from going to the bathroom and when I wiped, I noticed a light pink tint to my discharge and a little tiny spot of red (no bigger than a grain of salt, I'd say). I am currently not having any cramps, but earlier today, I was having some. They weren't terribly strong or anything.

I had this happen when I was pg with dd, so I'm trying not to get myself to worked up. But, I'm still a little shaken. I called my midwife and let him know and he said to keep an eye on things and if they get worse, to let him know.

My question is, how would I know if I'm having a miscarriage? Is this how they start? Or do they start with cramping and then bleeding? I just wish that I had some idea. If I was miscarrying, do you lose your pg symptoms?? My bb's have been getting more and more sore over the past few days, so I'm looking at that as a possibly good sign (I'm trying to stay optimistic).

Another thought, can stress cause spotting? Keep your fingers crossed.

Oh, and about the morning sickness, with both this pg and dd, I never really got sick, just a slight queasiness that would come and go throughout the day. All I did was try and keep myself from getting too hungry.

I'm going to have to figure out some way to shield myself from DoulaSarah's evil eye. :LOL

[wildthing]

Great idea Sarah!

Nausea is an all-day accompaniment now. What am I doing....lots of laying down! :LOL Seriously, I try to make sure I don't get too hungry first of all. It is much worse when I go 3-4 hours without eating something. Even though nothing sounds good, if I think about what would taste good, I try to eat it and usually feel al ittle beter. I have my order of Preggie Pops, which help quite a bit, but like Robin mentioned, it only lasts while I am eating them. After 9:00pm, I usually feel fine. it is really weird. I am waiting on some teas from Earthybaby.com. I am getting morning sickness and her pregnancy blend. Hopefully they will be here this week. :)

Oh, if anyone is interested, I have a great book called "No More Morning Sickness". I forget the author, but you can get it at Amazon.com.

Have a great weekend Mamas!

[eilonwy]

*hiding from the evil eye* I still don't have morning sickness... but isn't acne enough? :LOL

i had something else I wanted to say here, but I guess i've already got pregnancy brain, because i can't remember... :rotflmao

eta: i just remembered! when I was early in my pregnancy with ds, i had some fun, naughty sex dreams. around my second trimester, they became very strange... they were still definately sex dreams, but instead of naughty fun things there would be laundry. for example, i had one where marshall mathers (eminem) brought me ravioli de portabello from the olive garden, and while i ate he folded laundry. i woke up feeling all hot and bothered; it was hilarious! :LOL :rotflmao :LOL

[Queen of Cups]

Morning sickness... for me, it starts about 10pm, and last until 10am. The best thing I can do is sleep through as much as possible!

I've gotten the wristbands, but I don't think they're really helping at all. I've basically gotten afraid of food, and I'm trying to get over that. I've been living off pbj and baked potatoes with sour cream. And, as awful as it is, I have an aversion to ginger now! So even the chews don't work for me now. I have found that holding a cold rag to my head helps alot, as does splashing cold water on my face. I also try to eat a little something about every two hours, even if its just a cookie or crackers. My biggest problem is that I can't make myself eat anything before I get out of bed. I look at the box of crackers and have to run to the bathroom! I'm not actually throwing up, just gagging and dry heaving about 10 times a day.

I'm 8 weeks today, and I can tell a difference in my abdomen already! I'm about a size 6 and I've always had a flat stomach (even when I was heavier weight wasn't centered around my mid-section). But yesterday I woke up and my abs feel all squishy and I seem to have a sudden fat deposit beneath my belly button. I can't wait to start showing, but I just feel fat now! I've actually lost weight this week (due to the m/s), so its just not fair!

[Greaseball]

I had some pink/brown spotting with dd at 5 and 9 weeks. None this time, but I hear it's common.

For morning sickness - Dreyer's Whole Fruit Popsicles! (They aren't really whole fruit, though, just concentrated juice and pulp.)

[seedling]

I had brown/pink spotting with my first preg too and it was due (I think) to having sex the night before. Anyway, I don't know anything else to offer about the spotting, but I do know I was told not to worry if it was brownish.

As far as morning sickness, I have the variety that just makes me feel like throwing up. I don't actually throw up (at least I haven't so far and I never did last time). And I have it generally all day long. What seems to help me is eating small amounts all day, and when I just can't stomach anything, sipping hot tea. I'm drinking the Traditional Medicianals Pregnancy tea three times a day. I also just got some ginger tea. And miso soup and broth has helped too. I'm also trying to drink at least 8 glasses of water a day. All I do is pee.

I'm also all squishy in the middle. I've no doubt I've gained a few pounds because I'm eating more (to combat m.s.) and because I've cut out caffenine. So squishy I am. I've also cut out my ab routine which may contribute? I'm still doing the rest of my workout though so who knows? All I know for sure is I have just one pair of jeans that I can still comfortably wear and they are my gardening jeans so you can imagine how lovely they are.

Okay, off for now.

[tabitha]

well i am remembering the worst part of last time's ms. I cant decide what to eat and everything smells awful to me. Its all crappy. This can become quite expensive.

And last night i was crying on dh's chest begging for sweets.

thanks for the new thread, DoulaSarah!

Not much helps my morning sickness. Eating sometimes, herbal teas (pregnancy blend, prenatal immune tea, RRL,nettles) Honey by the spoonful. Water.

Mine is worse because i have a headcold and drainageand i feel like hell.

Dh watched tristan and i went to see a movie with my mom. I missed ds alot, but it was fun.

tabitha

[heatherevond]

I am ducking to miss the shoe that Sarah threw across the room to those of us who don't have MS yet. :D Oh wait.. cd 24 I was sick and took a pregnancy test.. :I .. once the test was positive I was much better off.

I do have the acne and lovely lack of energy. It is a good thing DS is still a napper. All three of us went down for a nap this afternoon.

I am still a little freaked about the ultrasound. I put on my jeans that I was so proud to buy a few months ago.. and well.. there was only room for my uterus. LOL So I switched over to my comfy jeans.

I don't know where I am at officially with weeks... the ultrasound should help more with that.

Oh crud.. ds found dh's wallet.. that is the end for me!

[2BMamaof3]

I haven't had what I consider REAL morning sickness yet. But I'm only just into my 6th week, so...it may be on its way.

My last two pregnancies I drank copious amounts of ginger tea, ANYTHING peppermint and basically just puked every day. It was gross.

As far as the spotting...I don't know.

**I have a separate question that I hope someone can address.

I'm in the process of looking for a doula. While I think I've found one that is right for me, there are several others who are just NOT what I am looking for...and yet they seem so desperate to BE my doula (apparently homebirths are sought after jobs???). But I'm just amazed at the differences between all the doulas who have responded to my email. I know everyone has a different way of intereacting...but it is obvious who sees this as a business and is professional and KNOWS her stuff and who is just kind of in love with the idea of birthing and birth partnering but still doesn't really know a damn thing about how to interact with a potential client/mother (for instance one called and said, "HI, this is XX" I had NO clue who XX was, nor why she was calling. So rather than be a hag about it I just kind of pretended I knew who it was until she gave me enough info to think to myself, "OOOOOHHHH it's a potential DOULA"). It's just weird. SO, here is my thing. HOW do I let them down gently? I swear one I think will burst into tears when I tell her I am not selecting her. I shouldn't have to worry about that, but I do. I also realise that these types of interactions matter to some (me) and not to others and that many of these women are probably very capable doulas. But I need to have the support that fits for me....so how to turn those down that I don't feel a fit with?

Thanks,
Tooby

[elbee]

hehe, also ducking doulasarah's evil eye!
No ms here (unfortunately), I know I should be happy about it, but other than the ubiquitous squishy tummy (okay, did I ever get rid of it in the first place?:LOL ) and a few other vague symptoms, I feel so unpregnant. Oh okay, and the acne, and okay the constant hunger... yup, I guess it's for real!

I wonder though, I seem to remember my last birth attendant saying that protein was good at combating it? I eat and eat and eat protein. Just what I'm craving...

Oh eilonwy, your eminem dream made me laugh!!! That does sound pretty dreamy heehee, though I don't know if it's the ravioli, the laundry folding or the man that does it for me!!! (probably the ravioli!!)

Super tired too these days, 2 hour naps with Finn that I awake tired from.

Interesting to hear of so many mamas noticing an increased interest in bf-ing by their nurslings. My little one is a nursaholic these days and nights, I swear, he nurses almost all night long. It's just killing my back! Feel like I'm all torqued out.. must be all that relaxin.

Anyways, here's wishing that all of you with m/s will feel better soooooooon!

Laura
mama to Finn (2) and ? (late June)

[rubelin]

Well, I have actually felt almost "normal" for the past 2 days! Yesterday I felt so good, I almost got worried, lol! today wasn't fabulous, bu so much better than earlier in the week. The only thing I can think I've been doing consistantly is eating lots of protein. well, not lots, but often. I have also noticed that noon is about the worst followed by about 9pm. I think it's because the previous meal is busy getting me all gassed up and I'm starting to need to eat again, a bad combination. Really at this point, I'm most upset by the gassies, it hurts so much and makes me nauseated, too. I am happy that my ulcers haven't been hurting, but I have been REALLY careful to stay away from my bad trigger food, like chocolate (which I miss SO MUCH I want to cry!!) We're driving down to SD tomorrow (Donna, I'll wave to you!!) and I'm really hoping I don't get car sick! I'll be sucking on preggie Pops the whole time.

Tooby, I hate letting people down, too. I'd say just be really matter-of-fact and say that you have chosen someone already but will be sure to keep their name just in case that doesn't work out. And then rejoice that you HAVE found someone awesome and perfect :D That's what matters most of all. You also might want to email anyone who has not contacted you yet to let them know that you're not looking any more.

Ok, I need to get back to bed. I went to Bed with Ben at 7 and slept for a few hours but then was wide awake, hope it doesn't take too long to fall asleep again!

Have a lovely sunday all!!

[liz-hippymom]

yuck- morning sickness, dont remind me.
will it ever end????
i am not sure anything HELPs , but still i try- preggie pops, hot cinnamon and pepermint candies, eating anything i crave, which is always protien and almost always prepared by someone other than me. i had to stop taking my prenatals (twin lab)- see i used to take them at night since then i could go to sleep before they made me nauseous. well now by the time i lay down i roll over and throw up into the pot beside my bed. trust me on this- prenantals are THE NASTIEST thing to throw up...im going to ask m midwife to get me a perscription for the chewable kind- DS's vitamins are quite tasty!i also have a problem with waking up. i am horribly sick upon waking from not eating for 9 hours but NOTHING sounds appealing in the AM, so most mornings i am at the toilet, with DS saying "mommy stop throwing up and make me cereal!" AAAARRRGGGGHHHH!
-boy am i a whiner today! hopefully its only for two more weeks.
i dont have a scale, but everyone keeps saying i look like ive lost weight..i always say "haha, boy have i got a diet for you!!!"
but by the end of the day i definatly have a noticable pouch...ill be 10 weeks tomarrow.
i read a cool fact on my preggo calander, it said now my baby is the size of a medium shrimp- that sounds big all of a sudden!

[kayjayjay]

Jessica, When I miscarried at about 12 weeks I did lose my pg symptoms, so I do think it's a good sign that yours are increasing. Also, I had lots of cramps first and then spotting...I hope that's reassuring. My wise DH told me a few days ago when I was fretting about losing this one just not to worry because it won't do any good. That really helped me to just relax and let things go how they're gonna go. HTH.

I still don't have m/s but I'm definitely feeling tired and a bit queasy the last few days. I had very bad vomiting with DD#2 and the only thing that really helped me was to try to keep my stomach full. My problem is that I never feel like eating anything healthy during the first trimester, with DD#1 it was powdered sugar donuts. :rolleyes: This time I'm determined to find good things to snack on. We'll see how I do when it really sets in.

BTW, what are preggy pops?

[DoulaSarah]

Tooby- I would just say that you have found a doula. Keep it that simple. There really is such a variety of doulas and I really think that as a doula, we are very non competitive and for myself and my doula sisters in the area, we really love birth. Adore it, are passionate about it!!! And YES, there are a ton of doulas who have never attended a homebirth! But this is your birth, not theirs and you need to have your wonderful doula that you are talking about there! (by the way, need a doula?) hehe!! Just be honest. You don't know these women and they don't know you, so simple is better.


Cat- I spotted brown and pink with both of my girls until 14 and 16 weeks. It was terrifying! With the first, I had a small tear in my uterus, not by the baby. And then with the second, I had a fryable cervex, so with sex or any hard work, I would spot. Good luck and keep up the sore boobs!! I am sure that everything is ok.


I am really surprised that at this point, I am having morning sickness, IN THE MORNING!! wow, I didn't know that was possible. I thought that it would last all day, and it isn't. Of course, now I am jinxing myself!


My daughter has an upper respritory infection and I am supposed to have a pre-natal with someone who just hired me and is due on the 11th, but I have to cancel it today. I hate that! Well, talk to you later!

[3girlsmommy]

Morning sickness what's that? I have all day Am I gonna throw up or not sickness! :LOL I try to snack all day and I have found that excercising helps too when I'm not too exhusted to move. My little nursling has been nursing ALL night long! I thought I was going to get away w/ her not increasing her night nursing but I'm not! She went from sleeping all night long (7/8 hour stretches) to nursing avery 2-3 hours. UGH! I just want to sleep!! It doesn't help that both of the girls are recovering from some upper respiratory junk!

On a side note we bought our first new baby outfit!!! :) We saw a little outfit w/ The Very Hungary Caterpillar on it. My oldest just LOVES that story so we picked it up. She's going to LOVE it. We haven't told the girls yet because once they knew the world will know and we're not ready for that yet. I do wish there was a way that my oldest could know w/out her telling everyone. I really wish she knew. She was the first one after dh that found out w/ our second.

Gotta run! HAve a great day!

[tabitha]

good morning

yes- before i even knew i was pregnant- my son (14months) began nursing like a newborn again. he still nurses all night long, like he can tell my milk is changing somewhat. he swallows heartily and when i hand express i get a good spray.

it is hard on my back too, but i just figure it is early prep for having a newborn again. i would never limit him, he is still so young. loves his boob-ah!

Feeling ok- we gained an hour last night!? Tristan woke up with a very high fever last night. poor guy, he was miserable!

I got my matching soakers in the mail yesterday, from Cass's Cozies (http://home.bellsouth.net/p/s/community.dll?ep=16&groupid=157485&ck=). Slightly OT, but i got 2 matching knitted wool soakers in toddler and newborn size! Cant wait to have a picture of my 2 babies in them! By the time the new one comes, i am going to have a stash of the cutest stuff!

Tooby, i agree with DoulaSarah. I interviewed several midwives, when i set up the apts and after the interviews i was nervous because i liked them so much! But they told me they all work together and are friends and realize each person has to choose only one. It is not a big deal to them.

But remember- the # of births a doula has heen at doesnt always correspond to her compatibility with you. I chose a very new doula last time because the minute i met her i knew she was the one. This time,we are having her here again, so that saves us the work! but in my search last time i met many a super-experienced doula that was a bad match for me- or even had a negative attitude. You need to find that perfect match, Makini (my doula) was so perfect for me that i wanted her, almost a stranger, to be at the most important event in my life,where i wouldnt even invite my mother!

i cant wait to feel some kicking! lastnight as i fell asleep nursing tristan, i imagined what it would be like to nurse him all cuddled up next to my big baby-belly,kicking and squirming! how magical!

tabitha

[catlvr976]

Good morning to everyone!!

It's really amazing the amount of people who've had spotting in their early pg's. The spotting seems to have ended. I think that it may have had something to do with the fact that I carried a large load of clothes up from the cellar and on Thurs, DH and I were together. It's so strange b/c I checked my journal from when I was pg with dd and I had spotting with her at the exact same time week-wise as I did with this pg. If it happens again, I'll have to go in for an ultrasound like I did with dd and get an early pic of the baby.

Have a good rest of the weekend!!

[heatherevond]

DS is nursing more too. The weird thing is that he doesn't want to be close to me most of the night. He insists on sleeping on a 45 degree angle. But, during the day he must know where I am and holds on to my legs. I am taking this oppertunity to work with him on colors and teaching him to cook.

He helped me make chocolate syrup for waffles this morning *before I turned on the burner* and had a blast. I wish I enjoyed the waffles as much as he enjoyed making the syrup. I normally love that breakfast, but it was too sweet for me today.

I woke up to DS in his halloween costume. I don't know how that happened last I remember he was waking up and telling Daddy hi. Then daddy said show mommy what you have. I was sure it was a poopy diaper. LOL I guess my body is getting that sleep. My back is bothering me too.. but I think my problem is mainly the progeseterone. Only one more night of taking it.. I hope.

Have a great Sunday!!

[Doodlebugsmom]

I've been having some "night sickness" the last couple of nights. It starts right after dinner and lasts until I fall asleep. Last night at around midnight I felt sure I would need to get out of bed and throw up. I finally fell asleep though. Dd woke up to nurse an hour later and I felt ok.

Poor dd. Last night dh and I didn't get much sleep. Dd was painfully constipated yesterday. She was screaming and crying alot. Before bed we gave her a natural senna laxative. Well, at 4 a.m. it came out. The poor little thing just screamed and was shaking. Dh and I were heartbroken. After that she had diarrhea all night. She's been fine since this morning though, but we didn't get much sleep. I'm soooo tired today! She has been nursing like crazy for the last couple of weeks too. I mean like 10-12 times/day! I don't mind though, it gives me a chance to sit down and relax!

[peaceful mama]

I have been feeling really good. I haven't had any feeling of nausea or dizziness. I'm still really early (5 weeks) so maybe that's why? With ds I had all-day-long sickness, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it doesn't happen again. I'm hoping this pregnancy will be a lot different. Last time the minute my morning sickness left the constant heart-burn set in for the rest of pregnancy. I constantly felt sick for 9 months. So far no morning sickness. I'm not really extra tired. But I do seem to be craving odd foods (chocolate cupcakes with white frosting last night :LOL ). I think wanting weird food is my only sign of pregnancy. I miscarried 3 months before I got pregnant with my ds so that makes me worry a bit. I'm trying just be relaxed about things though. I'm trying not too worry because I have more faith in my body than I did back then.

Have any mama's that are still nursing found any suggestions on keeping your milk supply plentiful? I dread loosing my milk supply but it seems to be diminishing.

Enjoy your Sunday afternoon. DS is all snuggled in taking a long nap. :love

[Greaseball]

I have just about no milk now. DD was only nursing once a week, and I can't squeeze out more than a tiny droplet. Looks like she'll have to wait for the new milk, which she will probably like better anyway.

Maybe TMI....caution ahead...











OK. Regarding intimacy issues, I actually had to request that dh stop right in the middle of it. I just suddenly was not into it! I don't understand.:(

[Queen of Cups]

Well, the morning sickness has progressed thus far from: only evenings to only mornings to mornings and evenings, and now it seems to be all day. Bleah. I'm not actually throwing up, just running to the bathroom to gag a lot.

And, suddenly, my breasts REALLY hurt! They've been sore and super-sensitive (and HUGE) almost since ovulation, but now I have yucky prickles! Pardon the TMI, but it feels like my nipples have "fallen asleep" and are waking up with prickles! Is this normal?

I'm also dying to start showing... I'm normally petite and I can feel my abs getting squishy, but who knows when I'll actually show. My midwife said that judging by my build, by the end I'll be "all baby!"

[eilonwy]

This morning I experienced some awful morning sickness; it was so bad that when I got to work (I teach Sunday school) everyone could tell that I was pregnant right away. :LOL

It went away when I ate some protien, though. That's all I want to eat these days... protien and salt. And now I have to leave.. *sigh* Later!

[rubelin]

Hey there! Gotta post quick cause I told DH he could use the 'puter tonight! What was I thinking?!?! lol!

Queen, I HATE the prickles!! Mine were worst with temp changes, and have gotten much better in the past couple of weeks, but I still get them when I take my bra off :)

Greaseball, don't feel bad, I've done that to DH, though will usually still "help" him a bit :) I mostly just haven't tried much of anything, I'm sure I will make it up to him in the 2nd trimester!

Can I just say how much I adore hanging with a bunch of pregnant, nursing mommas?? I know everyone isn't, but I just love being able to chat preggo stuff with mommas who think the same. It's so good to be gotten! :)

Alright, after that sappiness, I must turn this thing over to Dan. I hope you all have a lovely weekend and have a good Monday!

[spatulagirl]

Hi ladies!

Monday morning for me, and I am at work desperately trying to ward off the horrible ALL-DAY sickness. I have it so bad this time around. With DS I ate all through 1st tri. This time, I can't seem to stomach anything. I have to force myself to eat and usually all I can keep down is tofu, rice and miso soup. Thank god for bland Japanese food! I think I have lost weight and I don't think I can afford to lose much more.

Other than this awful morning sickness I have no other symptoms. No tender breasts, no soft tummy, nothing. But I am only six weeks so I expect more in the next couple of weeks.

[Doodlebugsmom]

Peaceful mama, I can't believe you've noticed a change in your milk supply! That seems really early to me. You probably know this, but sometimes oatmeal can increase the supply. If you don't already, you should eat a bowl for breakfast and for a snack at night. I haven't noticed a change in mine at all yet. I even gave it a squeeze yesterday to make sure and I got like six powerful jets with just the first squeeze! A LLL friend of mine said she didn't notice much of a change in her supply through her pg. She's still nursing a 4 year old and almost 2 year old! My dd nurses almost 24/7 so maybe that's keeping my supply up!

I've still been feeling nauseous from dinner time until I go to sleep at night and if that's all the sickness I get, I'll take it. I only feel like eating processed foods though. It's gross. I can't even imagine trying to eat broccoli, which is my favorite veggie that I usually eat 5 times/week. YUCK! I do have to say though, that the miso soup that spatulagirl mentioned is sounding pretty dang good! Maybe I'll have to get some for lunch!

As for intimacy, with the "night sickness" it just hasn't been happening. Dh is soooo sweet about it though. He rubs my back every night when I'm feeling bad!

[DoulaSarah]

Hey ladies. I am really not having to much morning sickness lately. I am a little metalic feeling, but some toast with peanut butter really helps that. Maybe it IS a boy! I am either 5 or 6 weeks, so it could still get worse. Hannick was hospitalized with asthma yesterday, so I am tired. She is ok though. She was diagnosed with reactive airway disease a year ago and it is now offically asthma. Is that how you spell it? who knows!

Well, my boobs are weird to temp changes too. DH is calling me and babe #2 is crying, gotta go!

[tabitha]

good morning all! another week gone.

Ds ,dh & i are still sick. its awful.

i began a routine of excercise this morning. aerobics. i plan on starting a prenatal yoga class soon. i would like to keepion shape- or even become in shape over this pregnancy. :LOL

anyone have any advice for stopping a headache without drugs? i relaize tylenol is ok but i dont want to use it. (they thought x-rays were ok not-too-long ago)

tabitha

[Doodlebugsmom]

Sarah, sorry to hear about Hannick. Maybe it will improve as she gets older. I think that happens sometimes. Your spelling of asthma is right on!

Has anyone done the Chinese gender predictor calendar? I just did it and it predicted another little girl. It was correct with dd! We won't be officially finding out the gender of this baby, so I will be doing all the predictor things just for fun! Here's a link if anyone wants to try it!
http://www.thelaboroflove.com/chart/pred.html

[3girlsmommy]

I just did the chinese gender predictor and it said we are having another girl! It was correct for the other two so I guess we'll find out in about 34 weeks.

[dharmama]

According to the chart I'm havnig a girl! :D DH thinks it is a girl so he will be happy to hear that (but we'll be thrilled either way).

Tabitha ~ Sorry you are all still sick. :hug

DoulaSarah ~ Sounds like a long day yesterday. Glad your DD is doing okay.

I work at a university so I just went to health services to take a nap after lunch. :zzz Ahhhhh....it was WONDERFUL. I could have slept all day though. I was on vacation last week so transitioning back to work today was rough. Can't wait to go home and sleep some more!!!! :zzz

~Erin
:love

[Queen of Cups]

Those Chinese gender predictors are driving me crazy! I've found several online, and they seem split about 50/50 in what they tell me. This one told me a boy. (DH thinks its a girl, but I think its a boy.)

We're not planning on finding out the sex, either. As one of my friends from church says, "Not knowing makes you push harder!"

[Queen of Cups]

(sorry! double post!)

[peaceful mama]

The predictor said that I'm having a girl. Based on my symptoms so far they have been opposite of the symptoms I've had with my ds, so I wonder.....it might be right??

It was correct for my ds.

We won't be finding out the sex either....it'll be a long wait.....

[DoulaSarah]

Mine says it's a boy!!! Which is just what we want! On a serious note...



I am getting fat. I mean, I am already fat, but I look about 4 months pregnant and I am only 5-6 weeks. Is this a normal thing for baby #3? It is really scary. I gained 75! pounds with my first. I was 217 pounds when I gave birth to her, which is very big for me. I lost 40, then 11 when I got pregnant with Kettie. I was 190 ish when I had her. Then I got down to 165, which is still 25 pounds overweight for me. So I just weighed myself and I am at 172!! That is seven pounds I have gained. Where from? How did it get there. I look really pregnant. I am about to start crying. Twins? No.... I really need honest advice. I don't know why I am getting so big already. What are some things that I can do?
I am 5'9, just so you know.

[tabitha]

As it happens, doula sarah, we are on the same page!

Though i am only on my 2nd,lol

I feel bigger- i refuse to weigh myself,but i think i have already gained.

I weighed 135-145 when i became pregnant with Tristan. I am a little over 5'9".

I gained till i weighed exactly 200 lbs on the day i gave birth. whew.

I lost 20 immediately,and before i was pg, i weighed 162. Still almost 20 lbs over my old average. It kills me.Now,I am pg again and getting bigger!I dont want to gain another 65lbs on top of this.

Ahhh! hence, there is a rule this time- no sweets,whatsover. None. Except honey. I am allowed honey and as much fruit as i want.

Its odd, cycles were the same, and now our pregnancies/ sizes seem to be the same!

tabitha

[Izzy's Mom]

I'm glad we'll start a new thread weekly, it's hard to keep up sometimes!!

As for your question, I must admit I'm one of the ones not suffering morning sickness (at least not yet - I'm 7 weeks today). I wasn't very sick with my son either. I did pay in early and long term back pain last time though, and I'm afraid of the same happening this time.

I do have some slight cravings - for salt, lots and lots of salt. I'm trying not to give in too much!

And today I bought a "present" for the new baby (and me of course!!!) A pretty new sling from Sterling's Slings. It's red patchwork fabric. With Isaiah I had a padded sling and it wasn't great, but we did use it a lot, so I knew it was worth buying a nicer one this time. Although technically nicer, it's actually cheaper online than the one I bought last time in a specialty shop!!!

Well, that's all for me for now. I have my first prenatal appt on Friday and maybe will have more news after that!

[elbee]

Hey mamas!

Hope you're all dandy!

A little rant: I told my mother and father finally (It was making me so nervous that I thought I'd better get it over with). This is how it went:
Me: I've got something important to tell you!
Mum: Oh no! You're pregnant.
Me: (sarcastically) Don't sound so excited!
Mum: That's because I'm not. How will you manage? (I know she doesn't actually want an answer to this, she's just expressing her disapproval)
Me: (strangely calmly) Mum, this is one situation where I really think you need to be happy and positive for us.
Mum: Okay, yes, congratulations.
Dad: Oh Wow! That's great!

grrrrrrr..... It didn't bug me as much as I thought it would because I knew this would be her response. But it did make me wonder why someone would choose to be negative about something like this when it's actually much much easier to be happy and positive!(and really, it is a choice!) ANd it's a baby for goodness sakes! It's not like I've told her that I've remortgaged the house in order to become a race car driver or something! :LOL

I know she'll love #2 when it comes along, she positively dotes on Finn. But I just wish sometimes I had one of those mothers who would do back flips in happiness over the news. Ah well....

On another note, I already feel like I've gained around 5 lb too, and I'm only just under 6 weeks!

All I ever want to eat is salty food. Salty junky food to be specific! :LOL Glad to know I'm not alone!

Have a lovely evening all you lovely mamas!

Laura
mama to Finn (2) and ? (late June)

[catlvr976]

Since everyone is talking about weight gain, I feel exactly the same way! I keep feeling for my uterus hoping to feel it. I can't wait to start showing.

We still haven't told any family yet. It was funny though, yesterday I went to visit my mom with dd and my one brother says to me, "so when are you gonna have another one?" I told him that I didn't know (boy was it hard trying to keep a straight face) and he was like, "AAAWWWW c'mon Jess!"

Hopefully we'll get to tell them soon.

[eilonwy]

I've gained weight too, and it's exceptionally depressing. :( With my first pregnancy, I lost 45 pounds (looked fabulous, couldn't stay awake to enjoy it. :LOL). I was sick as a dog. Now, I'm only sick if I don't eat. I desperately crave protien, and would eat eggs all day long if my stomach never cried out for rest. I think I've put back the 10 pounds I lost over the summer. :( :crying I'm nearly 6 weeks and can feel movement (definately not gas) and am definately starting to look pregnant. (Perfect strangers can tell. What is this?!) It's very strange, because I hadn't lost all my weight from the first pregnancy but my shape has started to change back into 'pregnant woman' instead of 'fat woman'. *sigh* I'm already wearing my maternity pants. I'm only praying that my boobs don't get any bigger! My nipples were hurting a lot this week, but I used some Lansinoh and they feel better. Now if only they had an "anti-grow" for boobs.. :LOL

[DoulaSarah]

I know that this is going to sound so evil of me, and I am going to sound like such a b*%#ch!! but I am so glad that I not alone in the gaining of the weight!! I feel so much better that there are a lot of you that are doing the same thing. Isn't that sad!!!But it eases the skinny woman inside my brain to know that I am just normal, with a normal body. I am looking pregnant too, not "fat"... I am budda bellyish. ho-hum...I know that there must be at least eight kids in there....



Laura- two children will be wonderful. They aren't raising them, you are!!

[bandana]

what is lansinoh????? tell me, my nips are getting RIDICULOUSLY sensitive.

sorry i haven't posted today ladies, i've been terribly busy. AND, i got my "wish"...today is the first day i've truly felt sick. i thought i was going to ralph this morning about midway through my honey-nut cheerios, and it made me so happy!

now i'm drinking pregnancy tea and propping my feet up.

i keep forgetting my kegels.
:scratch

-laura

[seedling]

Laura, my stinking mom is the exact same way. She has been going on for the past 2 and half years (since my first was born) about how we didn't need to have any more, that one was enough, that I'd have a nervous breakdown if I had more, that blah, blah, blah. The whole time I've been like "Mom, God willing, we are having more than one child, I wouldn't trade my sister for the world and I want my daughter to have a sibling. Mom, I have more support than you ever had. I'm not working a fulltime job, yadda, yadda, yadda". When I told her about this preg. she was a big old sh*t about it. It made me so mad I finally said to her, "Mom, I AM YOUR SECOND CHILD, when you say these things, it makes me feel like you regret having had me". That shut her up. Vent over.

You guys aren't alone on the weight front. After my first was born, I lost it all while I was breastfeeding but she weaned and I gained 10 pounds back. I'm about 8 weeks so far and I KNOW I've gained at least 5 pounds already. And unfortunately, I don't look preggo, I just look like I've gone crazy with eating. Nothing fits, it's too early for maternity clothes, so I'm just one big frump these days.

Have to go, my dd wants me to play.

[2BMamaof3]

Regarding GAINING WEIGHT

I've had an eating disorder since I was 8 and am recently getting help for that. So, I'm losing weight (I think...according to my clothing). But frankly, I am FINALLY to a point in my life where I know my body size has NO bearing on who I am. Anyway, that being said, I've always taken care of myself really well when I was pregnant and not so much when I'm not...I've lost weight with both pregnancies. I expect the same will happen with this one.

I would FREAK if I gained weight. It would be a huge issue.

My eating disorder is binge eating (no purging) so the excess food I eat (and it is excess) has always caused me to be big...when I don't eat that food, my body naturally loses weight. I've been abstinent (not bingeing or compulsively overeating) for 35 or so days now (HUGE for me!). SO...if I gain weight while eating significantly less than before (though it is VERY much nutritionally balanced now), I WILL freak out. But if I do, I guess I will have to deal with it.

I've always done my gaining after the baby has been born and I've gone back to bingeing. This time MIGHT be different, as I became committed to treating my eating disorder BEFORE I became pregnant (albeit just a bit before).

Our bodies changing sizes is a big deal. But I will constantly remind myself IF I gain weight that: I am growing a baby...it's BABY....if I'm eating healthy and balanced and what I need to stoke my engine...then the weight I gain is BABY.

Tooby

[wildthing]

Tooby :hug :hug :hug I have been abstinent for almost 10 years from anorexia. Make no mistake, I still behaved unhealthy during the following years, but I have been eating the way my body needs since I was pregnant with baby #4. Congratulations to you for hitting 35 days! you can continue! you will be healthy for your baby.
I have not gotten on a scale in 21 months, since my last baby was born. It was the last behavior I had to quit. I know I am not where I was before I got pregnant with my last baby, I know I am heavier. I am not thrilled about it, but I am healthy. I absolutely refuse to get weighed during this pregnancy. Tooby, I am sure you understand.....the number on the scale used to rule my day. It is something I had to cut out.

I am only here for a few minutes. I live in San Diego, and our city has been burning for 2 days. 206,000 acres burned in just one fire (there are 3 seperate fires burning), 400+ houses burned, at least 11 and possibly as many as 30 people are dead. Schools are closed today and tomorrow because the air is dangerous to be out in. My head hurts, and I feel sick today....different than normal. The sadness is tremendous. My heart goes out to the families living in other areas of the state that are suffereing similar losses.

I will probably be back around tomorrow. Take care.

[seedling]

Wow, you guys put the whole weight thing in perspective. You are absolutely right. It is about growing a healthy baby.

For me, I'm really trying to eat right, excercise daily, and avoid the sweet tooth that I developed with my last pregnancy. With my first, I craved sweets and fried chicken (I had been a vegetarian for 10 years and didn't give into the fried chicken craving until I was in my third trimester). With this one, I've been craving asian food. And salads. So, I'm glad my inclinations (so far) have been in the right direction.

Anyway, I hope the fires are soon out. It seems otherworldly from this coast. I'm so sorry it's such a reality for you.

[heatherevond]

I may be a bit quiet the next few days to next week. I had my u/s (I posted a new thread (http://mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=94859)about it.) and there were a lot more questions raised than answers.

I am trying to stay positive and remind myself that nothing can change what is happening. I have to trust my body to do what is right for it and the baby.

I am wiped and my head hurts from crying. I didn't even cry until my boss asked me how the appt went. It was too much!

[Greaseball]

I am 9 weeks and have gained 6 lbs. I think this is a good start, since I am trying to grow a huge baby. They called me overweight at the WIC office. They said that last time too. Last time I was 5'1 and 145 lbs, so I was overweight, but this time my pre-pg weight was only 118. But now I'm still overweight just because I gained more than recommended (by whom?!) in the 1st trimester?

I'll try and get well off the charts just to hear what they have to say about it.

[Queen of Cups]

Am I the only one who's lost weight since getting pregnant? The m/s is killing me! I have no appetite, but I've found I have to force myself to eat a little something every 2-3 hours or else I get REALLY sick. My eating habits suck right now, bland starchy food with no nutritional content... and then I still get heartburn. (I am taking my pre-natals, of course.) I'm hoping that right at twelve weeks (a month from now), I'll go back to feeling good and fixing real meals again.

I talked with my midwife about my desire not to gain a lot of weight during pregnancy so I don't revert to my eating disorder after delivery. My midwife said she's not worried about weight gain - the baby is a parasite and takes what it needs. She also said that we wouldn't worry about weight gain, until week 20, and then she wanted to see at least a pound a week.

I'm already 20 lbs heavier than when I got married 2.5 years ago, so I don't want to carry any more permanent weight after baby!

PS- Heather, you are in my thoughts and prayers...

[elbee]

Oh Heather,

Sending lots of positive thoughts your way....

Laura

[rubelin]

All this talk of gaining weight, I had to take a look. I do not weigh myself often, only have a scale at all for shipping packages. It was scary, but I haven't gained a thing yet, Woo-hoo! I promise I'm not saying that at all to be a snot. I'm in a similar situation as Tooby, though my eating never progressed totally out of control, I have had eating "issues" since college. I was about 60 lbs overweight when I got pregnant with Ben, only gained 15 (which is in the normal range for plus-sized mommas) and then lost it in a week (cause it was all baby and placenta) Well, over the past 3 years (thanx to falling back into old patterns and with no help from Depo Provera) I gained it back, so I'm starting this time more than 75 lbs overweight. It is scary to "allow" myself to gain, and I have to have to make sure I eat well, cause my body happens to gain more when I don't eat and it's always pure fat. I would love to not gain anything this time and to just burn off some of this reserve, but I also have to make sure I don't do anything extreme. Gaining has always meant failure to me and to do it on purpose is almost too painful to deal with.

Well, after that cheeriness :D I'd better finish up here. DS has the flu, so sick and feverish. He's sleeping pretty well rihgt now but I expect he'll be up quite a bit tonight wanting to nurse. He's been down to twice a day and my poor boobs are not thrilled at the prospect of being used any more than that right now.

Have a good night everyone!

[2BMamaof3]

Heather: I am keeping you in my thoughts and prayers. This is a scary time (I've been there). Strength and love to you.

To all the Cali mamas who may be affected by the fire. HUGS. Holy CRAP is that bad stuff. Another internet friend of mine lost her house yesterday :(

More re. the weight. It's so interesting to see how we all have different feelings and issues re. weight gain. I'm glad I can be honest here. Thanks for that.

I have my first midwife appointment tomorrow. I'm very excited! And nervous. I will be getting a requisition for blood work and the ultrasound (to rule out ectopic). My back has been aching and my uterus feels as though it is expanding and I get little twinges of pain on both the left and right side of my gut...I hope this is ligament pain and not symptoms of an ectopic.

This morning my gag reflex kicked into HIGH gear. I could barely brush my teeth without hurling all over. This is how my morning sickness started with the other pregnancies too. Ugh!

Goodnight mamas, sleep well!

Tooby

[spatulagirl]

Queen of Cups, I have lost weight too. I can't seem to keep anything down. I run as well and right now it is the only thing helping the MS but I am afraid that I am losing too many calories. Even eating isn't helping with the MS. I never had any MS with DS so this is all new to me.

I am trying to stay positive because at least MS means I am pregnant but it is getting hard.

[bandana]

now i'm scared! i have my first midwife appt. today too, and i had decided NOT to get an ultrasound. but how will i know if i have an ectopic pregnancy? i too have been getting little pangs here and there...on my left side near my groin last night especially! am i reading too much into it? i've been feeling great! i guess i just have to talk to my midwife about it. would i know?

as for the weight gain issue, i am so impressed by all of you strong, confident women. like most of you, i've had self-image issues my whole adult life too. i haven't had a real weight problem, just a few pounds i'd like to shed, but i've always had a major love/hate issue with my own body. since i've been preggo, i have to say that has completely disappeared. i LOVE this body.

-laura

[Doodlebugsmom]

Queen and spatula, I also have lost a few pounds. I haven't been throwing up, just no appetite. I mean, absolutely nothing sounds good to me. Plus, with dd nursing 24/7, I don't see how it's possible to gain weight!

Heather,:hug and thoughts to you.

Tooby, I also have had some trouble with binge eating in the past. I haven't done it for quite a while. I'd say at least 4 months. I shed my last 12 pregnancy pounds in June, plus 15 more. I'm desperate not to binge anymore because right now I'm at a really healthy weight. I'm 5'6" and 150lbs. My key is to not deprive myself. Three times/week I allow myself a dessert.

My last pregnancy I didn't gain any weight for about the first 15 weeks. I gained 35 lbs total though. So I obviously didn't have any trouble making up for it!

[DoulaSarah]

Laura- the pains that you are feeling are probably stretching ligaments. They can really hurt! Trust in you body and your baby. If you feel that something is truly wrong, get it checked out. But if you feel that everything is ok, you are just having some fear, think about what you are afraid of, and confront it. It is easier on you and that wonderful babe. If you will truly feel better because you think something is wrong, get the U/S.

As far as the weight, I checked again this morning and I am back down to 165. I must have been really bloated yesterday. That happens. I have huge body issues and I am just going to have to deal with it!!


I just want to say right now that I can be blunt about how I feel about pregnancy and birth. I will try my hardest not to say anything that could be offensive, but should I not realize it, please let me know and I will change the post. I have very strong feelings about what I think is needed and not needed in pregnancy, and I wouldn't ever want to do anything to hurt any of you! Thanks!!

[Queen of Cups]

I have a question: when should we be able to hear the heartbeat with dopplar? My next appointment is at 10w2d, and the midwife said she thought she'd be able to hear it then. But I keep reading on all these boards about people who couldn't hear it till 12+ weeks! I'm really looking forward to hearing it, and I know I'll be a nervous wreck if I don't.

[Doodlebugsmom]

Queen, you can usually hear it at 10weeks, but sometimes not until a little longer. I bet you'll be able to hear it at your next appointment! That's so exciting. I didn't really even want to go to my midwife until I would be able to hear the hb, but my first appt. is on Nov. 7th. I'll be almost 8 weeks then. So I'll have to wait until 12 weeks to hear it!

[Queen of Cups]

Thanks, Susan! I think this little one has a strong heart - the heartrate was 122 bpm at 6w2d - even the u/s tech was surprized at that!

My husband and I have been taking pictures of me standing agains the wall since I found out I was pregnant on Sept 24th. Well, you can see a difference! I have a tiny little pouch already! No one else can tell yet (women yesterday were commenting on how I wasn't showing at all), but in my exercise pants and sports bra I can see it! Just a little bulge under my belly button. Its funny how your body redistributes its weight almost immediately...

[tabitha]

good morning! ah, this one is hard on me. I still have terrible sinus pressure. I had one of those nights where i remember saying things that i might have only dreamt, or the other way around...restless sleep, tristan nursing all night. if i turn from him even when he is asleep he will wake and rub on my back looking for boobah,and start screaming "boobah!" in the middle of the night. here he comes now to nurse. i love nursing my boy, but as of yesterday i am officially praying for the first trimester to end. every time he latches i feel like throwing up, and feel an antsiness,a weird urge to say no and push him away.

I refuse to wean and am doing my very best to control my nausea.

I am seeing my midwife Thursday morning, here at my house of course. Just to fill out paperwork. And talk. no ultrasounds. I am quite scared of them, though i received 3 last time and all was well, i dont think that was because the ultrasounds were safe or medically neccesary. I suppose if the began suspecting multiples, or something, i would feel like it would be a good idea.

I did my aerobics this morning again! I am quite proud of myself- imagining how much more happy i will be to do them when my sinuses *arent* about to explode!

We went shopping last night and nothing interested me. It all seems foul. I almost wanted to weigh myself but like wildthing, i refuse. it will only start the evil cycle.

Greaseball, they gave me trouble at WIC last time! I gained alot. I am not on WIC this time, but last time it would always be a little humourus to see them read my daily diet and how darn healthy i eat, lol! Here they are displaying the chart of which gross fast food chain has the healthiest food :confused: and i'm like,um....no thanks. I used WIC until ds was 4 months or so, and they were quite suprised to see me BF as well. Though our WIC is very BF freindly.

((((Heather)))) Hoping for you!

Tabitha

[seedling]

Okay, is anyone else totally without patience these days? I am REALLY having a hard time with my DD lately. I can tell that my patience is just shot. And she is tantruming as a result. So, can I please expect this to be short-lived and is anyone else feeling the same way?

[3girlsmommy]

seedling- patience what's that???? I keep reminding myself that my little girls don''t have any idea why mommy is grouchy and they don't realize anything is different. I think it would help me tremendously if I got some decent sleep! My kids and my bladder all have it out for me. My kids have both been sick for what seems like forever and everytime I fall asleep I either get woken up by one of the kids coughing/crying or because I need to pee. I know it is all preparing me for the newborn stage but couldn't it wait until I was further along!

Sorry to be so whiny!!

[heatherevond]

On the patience front.. mine is all but gone. Poor DS just wants to have more and more and I just want to veg. He keeps saying baby tonight. I don't know what that is about. He said it mostly when there was a baby on TV. He might be getting the idea.


Nothing has changed around here. I have a little bit of heart burn and have to pee almost constantly. I have freaked out a few times and was relieved to find no blood on the tp.

I am still having the HCG drawn tomorrow. I wonder at times if that is the right thing to do. I really need something to get me through to Monday. It also turns out that DH and I totally forgot that he will be out of town all next week. I was OK with him missing the first OB appt. But, now he is a little worried about letting me go to the appt on my own. I may ask a friend to go. But, I don't want her to feel obligated.


DH is insisting I come to bed. I am normally the one who is demanding that he come to bed and turn out the lights.

G'night:zzz

[bandana]

CAN I JUST VENT FOR A SECOND?

My husband and I have gotten into fights TWO days in a row now. He is fluctuating from being so sweet....breakfast in bed Saturday, going to my midwife appt. last night....to being a total and complete jerk. The worst part about it is he makes me second guess myself. I have no idea now if he really hurt me the way I think he did, or if he's right and I really am crazy and perceiving things "wrong" or perpetuating the problem. I just feel so alone right now, he NEVER takes responsibility for his actions when we argue. But is he right? Am I the problem? I feel horrible, and there is a pit in my stomach which I know is NOT good for the little soul.

-laura

[eilonwy]

bandana: I have no idea if it's you or him, but I can tell you that I've been wanting to strangle DH off and on now for about 2 weeks. Little things which would have been minor irritations before are now driving me *insane* with rage. It doesn't help that my ds is *extremely* sensitive to my mood and always reacts badly when I'm upset, leaving my entire world miserable.

I know that my pregnancy hormones affect dh almost as much as they affect me, and he knows it too. He also knows that he's more in control of his reactions than I am, so he's trying to be very careful about them. I am just biding my time until the first trimester is over and I can go on medication in the second, before the homocidal thoughts begin again.. :LOL

heathervond: I have no idea what to say, but I hope all goes well for you. :hug

And I can't remember who asked, but Lansinoh is 100% lanolin that you put on your nipples and it really helps! My sister told me about it while I was pregnant with ds and I screamed when her daughter pinched my nipples (she was a nursling for 14 months and followed me around throughout the pregnancy, looking for milk but not really understanding why...so cute!). You can buy a tube of it for about $9.99 (it's a little cheaper at the hospital pharmacy). You use very little of it and it lasts for *ages*; I had one tube from week 7 of my pregnancy with Eli and I'm still using it today (my son will be a year old next Saturday)! :eek

On the weight gain front: Even though my body has changed and I feel like I've gained a ton of weight, dh says that I look smaller. I think there's something wrong with his eyes; the way I've been eating, I don't think it's possible for me to be smaller unless I'm carrying triplets. :LOL :LOL :LOL I too have had eating disorder issues, but I had never worried about pregnancy until my son was 6 months old and I was still huge. See, all the women in my family have had severe morning sickness and lost weight. My mother usually weighed a little less at delivery than she had at conception, and my sister did too. I weighed more at delivery, but part of that was the 60 pounds of water I gained during labor. :rolleyes: I only had a net gain of 10 pounds with Eli (not including the water), which is about right considering that I weighed about 80 pounds more than I would have liked to when he was concieved. I'm most comfortable around 145 at 5'1"; I have HUGE bones, a *very* dense, muscular build... at least, I did before I had Eli and hope to again someday! :LOL.

So here I am, fully 90 pounds heavier than my ideal, waiting for morning sickness to really hit. But it doesn't come! I've had that one bout, but when I ate it went away; it was "hunger sickness". I know I should be enjoying the fact that I'm not sick; I was miserable the first time around, the idea of a kitchen was enough to send me to the bathroom, but I'm kind of disappointed that I won't be losing another 45 pounds and having another chance to keep it off. Kind of selfish, I guess; I know I should be thinking about what's best for the baby (and for my constantly nursing son!), but I'm kind of hurt. I feel like my body played a trick on me, and I'm annoyed by it. It doesn't help that my mother snickers every time I need to eat something in her presense, and I can hear her thinking "have some willpower for God's sake! You're pregnant, you're not trying to become a sumo wrestler!" But I can't help it! If I don't eat constantly, all I think about is food and if I wait too long I get sick. *sigh*

I'm totally depressed about the food issue, though. I guess I feel like it's not fair. Why am I being so selfish, and can I possibly blame this on hormones? :LOL

[Kerlowyn]

:wave Jumping in here :D I have been following this thread for a few days and have read all your posts.

:hug to you all who need them

I found out over the weekend I am pregnant with baby #3. I have a 10 yr old DS, and a 1 yr old DS who is also still nursing. I thought it would take me a while to get PG cause I am nursing, but DH and I got it right on the second cycle!

I am 40, (am I the oldest one here so far? :scratch ) and this will be my last baby. So far things are fine, no morning sickness as of yet. I do feel bloated though, and tired at times.

I am planning a waterbirth at a hospital. I see an awsome MW practice in Boston, my first prenatal visit is in Janurary. DS#2 was going to be a waterbirth, but he came before they filled the tub! :LOL

I look forward to sharing our experiences in the coming months!

[2BMamaof3]

Eliwony: Once I realised my food consumption was not about self control...I have NO self control...nothing I've EVER done has actually worked to control my weight...things changed for me.
Feel free to email me if you want to talk about this further or private message me or whatever this board is set up for.

On other fronts:

I think all of my hormones and actions and emotions, etc. has really affected my husband as well. Wow is he moody and he's tired and he CONSTANTLY wants sex that I don't want to give him (shit...we still have sex AT LEAST once a week, he should be happy!...but he wants it more and more). Sigh. It's frustrating. I tell him to remember my 2nd trimester from last time and that we'll make up for it ;) But it seems little consolation to him. He's also worried about the slight chance of repeat ectopic, and he gets reassurance through sex, I guess. I just can't though...ykwim?

I went to my first midwife appt. yesterday. I like her. She really just let me talk and vent, etc. I have an appt. TODAY for an ultrasound to rule out ectopic. It's at 3:00 pacific...keep me in your thoughts and prayers (if you pray). I could use all the positive/supportive vibes I could get.

I weighed myself at the midwife's office. I'm down 20 pounds from my pre-abstinent weight. WOW. I'm amazed at how my body does NOT want to be heavy and if I stop feeding myself for four (or more) I lose weight (of course this is a totally logical ocurrence, but it never fails to amaze me). I guess, for me, it really is about eating less (not bingeing)...but shoot, the power to do that does NOT come from me, that is for sure!

[Doodlebugsmom]

Welcome Kristina! :)

I know how all of you irritable mamas feel! I have never been a moody or hormonal person. My third post-partum cycle, I got really bad PMS though. I felt like the lonliest person in the world. I was about ready to have myself comitted! It happened again on my fourth cycle and I told dh that we have to get pregnant now! I couldn't take another bout of that! Well, I have felt the same way since about a week after conception! I get really irritable with dh, especially since he has been working 12-15 hour days for the last 3 weeks! I also take things he says very personally, even though he would never say hurtful things to me. He's such a sweetheart! I've been pretty good with dd, she's only 20 months so she just wouldn't understand if I lost my patience with her. My dogs on the other hand.... Yesterday they were barking obnoxiously outside and I made them come in and stay in the kitchen for two hours! I was about ready to drive them to the pound! Not really, I love them soooo much!

On the topic of sickness, mine seems to be getting worse. It starts at exactly 2:30 every afternoon and gets progressively worse until I fall asleep. I've been making sure I eat a good breakfast and lunch because there's no way I can do dinner. I guess it's a good thing it works that way, because just when I think I can't last any longer, dh comes home from work and takes care of dd and I can just lay down until dd is ready to nurse to sleep. I've been falling asleep before 11 each night! I usually am up until at least 12:30. I kind of enjoy going to sleep early!

With my last pregancy, I started feeling really good again around week 11, so I figure I only have about 3 1/2 weeks left to feel like crap!

[heatherevond]

:( Please keep me in your prayers. My numbers went down again. I have calls into the RE's office and the OB's office. I just want to stop the progesterone and let skooter go.

God why do I have to be at work?

Thank you ladies for sharing this space with me. I will update you more when I have heard back from the Drs.

I was listening to Celine Dion's latest CD last night and I could almost feel skooter leaving me. Soon I will have an angel watching over our family.

[tabitha]

morning.

i am grumpy,too. i barely pulled myself from bed this morning to do my aeroic i started. but i did it! poor dh, i was begging him for coffee and he kept saying no like a good husband and i began berating him and shouting insults in his direction but he still held up and only brought me tea!

i am very very nauseous this morning. i havent eaten.

it isnt that none of my clothes fit- they do- it is that they all bug me and i dont wanna wear them. excuse me, have to go throw up.

tabitha

[Doodlebugsmom]

Heather,
I am just so sorry. I can't imagine what you are going through. I will keep you in my thoughts.

[tabitha]

(((heather))) lots of strength your way!

[dharmama]

Heather ~ I am so very sorry. :hug

[3girlsmommy]

Heather- :hug You are in my thoughts. Take care of your self.

[DoulaSarah]

Heather- I am thinking about you and praying for you. Take care of yourself.

[heatherevond]

Thank you all for the support. :hug

I am starting to cramp now. The RE wants to see me on Monday. DH is not going to be able to go with me. Hopefully the miscarriage will have started before I go to the doctor. I really don't want an artificial removal.

My belly is still there. I wonder how long it will take for it to go down. I found the miscarriage blessing over at the pregnancy and birth loss forum. I also copied it to my blog if anyone is interested in reading it. It really helped me to read that and get a good cry out.

Now to decide when we will try again. :eek

[bandana]

thank you all for sharing your feelings on the emotional tip...i think i owe my husband an apology, but also an explanation that is is just going to have to be a little more patient with me until december, when he will be greatly rewarded.

heather, i just don't know what to say. :hug
i will pray for you.

and welcome to all!~

talk to you tomorrow...

[wildthing]

Heather :hug :hug I am sending you strength and healing thoughts!

I haven't been around much. The fires here have been so overwhelming and frightening. It is so awful to see not just a neighborhood, not just a big area, but our entire county on fire! Landmark places we go to regularly are gone. And Oh my gosh!!! The loss of history these families have suffered. Yes, they are all thankful to be alive...but one woman said they lost part of their identity. The green dress that her daughter wore over, and over again is gone. They have no little momentos, the little things that were special because you bought them for your home. :crying

Okay, I need to stop. People are alive, our community will help them get back on their feet. They will be okay.

I have been pretty irritable lately too. I attributed the last few days from being stuck inside with all the kids and no relief. I always hate it when someone says "It's because your pregnant." I don't give a &^%$ if it is because I am pregnant....I still feel this way, so deal with it. Whew....that felt good :D

I found two things that help my morning (all-day) sickness...okay, nobody laugh.....

PICKLES AND ICE CREAM!!!!!!! :LOL

Okay, not together, but I love a good, cold dill pickle for a quick snack. The saltiness helps me, it is what I crave.

Second isn't really ice cream, but actually lemon sorbet. It is cold, sour and light on my tummy. I am in heaven! Oh, the bonus with both of these...no fat! Low calories! I love it!

I just got a couple of tea blends from a friend...one for nausea and a pregnancy one. Hope they work cold, I am not a big hot tea drinker. :)

[2BMamaof3]

Hi all.

I went to my ultrasound today and the pregnancy IS viable! The gestational sac, yolk sac and tiny teeny baby (with heartbeat) is in my uterus NOT my fallopian tubes. I'm ecstatic.

We've told everyone who NEEDS to know...many more who will know. Our parents were less than enthusiastic...as anticipated. My mom was all, errr, ummm, ohh...wow. And my m-i-l was OH and very cold when I told her I wasn't planning on weaning my daughter (2) any time soon. She probably has some weird belief that it is unhealthy to nurse during a pregnancy.

Anyway, my friend who is due three days after me is really excited too. Our other close friend thinks I'm a bit nuts. Oh well.

WE'RE excited and that is all that matters.

:)

Tooby (Abby)

[wildthing]

Yay Tooby!! Oh, can we call you Abby now? ;)

[rubelin]

:hug Heather, I am so sorry for your loss. I hope it is all over fast and easy and that you take extra special care of yourself. You are in our thoughts!

oooh, Tooby has a real name!! and a baby!! Woo-hoo!! Congrats on the U/S! Now you can start appreciating those owie twinges for what they really are, your healthy, expanding uterus! I would always say the baby was stretching :) oh, and phooey on your parents!

Well, I had a rather yucky day. Ben's sick, had a fever for 2 days that finally broke late last night. He's feeling much better and was his old, too-perky self today, but I felt so yucky. Not horrid "I'm gonna hurl any second" nausea, just really yucky. I'm a little better now and did manage to eat relatively healthy today, and now Dan is bringing me some ice cream. I don't care if it's healthy, I just hope it makes my tummy feel better.

Donna, IKWYM about the fires, I just can't watch the news any more, it's heartbreaking. And they keep pre-empting Oprah, don't they know we need some respite from the insanity?!?! BTW, pickles sound so good right now, I might have to call Dan and have him bring some, lol!

Believe it or not, I'll take pregnancy over PMS anyday! I have an estrogen imbalance, which makes me INSANE just before my period. So when the extra boost of progesterone kicks in during the second week of pregnancy, I am the most balanced of my life. A little weepy and sappy, but really clearheaded and relaxed. The whinyness is purely due to feeling physically crappy, once the 1st trimester yuckies pass, I am such a happy, preggie woman, lol!

Night mommas, sleep well and have a good Thursday!

[spatulagirl]

Sitting here at work and now all this talk about pickles makes me realize...

I NEED ONE BADLY!

I am thinking Subway might be in order for lunch with LOTS of pickles. Yum!

Heather, I am very very sorry for your loss.

[Doodlebugsmom]

Yay Tooby! That sucks about your familiy's lack of excitement though. Oh well, we're excited for you! :D I am also wondering how many people will say that I have to wean dd when I tell them I'm pg.

Robin, I also look forward to when this first trimester is over. My last pregnancy I felt just terrific through the 2nd and 3rd. Well, except for the kidney stones!

Someone mentioned lemon sorbet. I eat that and also lemon italian ice. It does make me feel a little better. Oh, and I also have been eating Lemonheads candy. I'm sooo looking forward to my first appt. with my midwife, but I still have just over a week to go! She probably won't do anything other than a HPT type test. She may go ahead and draw blood since I already know I won't be doing the triple-screen at 16 weeks. She makes it a general rule to only draw blood twice during a pregnancy. I like that! Anyway, here's to feeling good today mamas!

[3girlsmommy]

pickles yummm!!! Last night I pigged out on garlic hummus and wheat thins. I just couldn't stop myself. It was the first food all day that tasted good.

Abby- Congrats! The response you got from your family is exactly the reason why I want to delay tellin gour families for as long as possible. I just don't want to deal with them. My mom was pretty much the only one that was excited and after she was born very few of my family members even acknowleged she was born. sigh! If I could tell all my friends and not my family I would but we live in such a small city that I would get in trouble!

Shoot my kids found my ginger snaps! Is it bad that my kids are eating ginger snaps before breakfast??? They are organic w/ no yucky stuff in them so that makes it ok right??? :)

Have a good one everybody!

[Mummoth]

Hi! I'm Abbys IRL friend, who is pregnant, too! I'm due on the 22nd. And I'm EXTREMELY excited. My firstborn, Roland (January 9th/02) is the first of his generation, AND we were the only people in our circle of friends to have a baby, so I REALLY wanted a pregnant friend (I met Abby at La Leche League, when I was about 7 months pregnant, and her daughter was a newborn)

Luckily, our families were happy about this one. We knew mine would be, but there was some concern about Kevins' mother. She caused some problems last time. This time she said "Oh! Congratulations! Maybe it's a GIRL!!!" (she had 2 boys)

Abby, my mom says "CONGRATULATIONS!!" She thinks we're both having girls. She was right about Roland! I think I'm the only person who DOESN'T care this time around. I still have 2 swings, if you want one (they are both battery operated) Im not sure how well it's work out when we've got toddlers. I think I might set it up in my room, so I'll have a place to put the baby down when I change Roland, or go to the bathroom (see, I'm already setting myself up to have another don't-put-me-down baby!)

So far, with this pregnancy, my main symptom is just being really, really tired. I feel a little bit queasy sometimes, but if I take a few bites of something, it goes away.

[DoulaSarah]

Hello everyone. Sneeking onto the computer, surrounded by a filthy house!! My daughter is yelling at me to "go down there! and see the big castle surprise that she biult, which from the sounds of it, is being destroyed by Kettie...

I am not really having any morning sickness, just a little rot-gut that comes when I lay down. I have that great spray (the clary sage, lavender, peppermint) that works so well. Plus protein and carbs...I would swear that this had to be a boy! But I am too scared to get my hopes up. I am not one of the mothers you will meet who will be "happy" with a healty baby. OF COURSE!! I want a healthy baby, but I really want a healthy BOY baby!
I have two girls 15 months apart. Can you imagine what that will be like when they are 13 and 14? Can you!! hehe...I need some G.I. Joe's and Tonka Trucks. I want a BOY boy...I want war in the backyard with his friends and scraped knees and dirty hands. I want a pigtail pulling, fort building, snowball throwing boy!
And then I want him to skateboard and snowboard and not be a jock. Can I have that please!! hehe...

I already have the most typical girls you can find. Dress up and dolls and makeup girls.

I am planning on thinking of my babe as a girl the whole time, so that if I have a girl, I won't be sad. I know that sounds mean, but if I think about having a boy, and don't, it would be hard. Not because it is a girl, but because there is no boy. I would love my girls, and love saying, come on girls!! Or girls, leave papa alone. And I already have girl clothing in both seasons, so I wouldn't need anything. Literally not one thing! But, I am not sure if we will have another. Well...I am sure we will, but not any time soon. I sound mean hearted, but I do think it is ok to want a boy! OK, I am rambling.


Tooby- Awesome news.

Just remember that no-one else is raising our kids but us. They are only allowed an opinion if we give them the option. Which I am not doing right now.

Welcome Homebirth Harriet and congratulations!

[bandana]

i need help today, mamas.

ANOTHER fight this morning with dh. and this is following an absolutely beautiful, euphoric, perfect night last night. i have got to figure out a way to RISE ABOVE IT. i don't care who's right, who's wrong, i just don't. i have GOT to figure out a way to remain calm through these fights, because right now, as it has been for three hours now, my belly is in knots and our growing baby is in a tense environment. that makes me feel guilty, adding to the stress. i HATE this. dh and i have a very loving relationship, but it's also incredibly passionate, so when we fight, we FIGHT. and i guess these hormones or whatever have been increasing the frequency of these fights. NO, i refuse to blame this on myself. i did do something that made me feel a little better...i printed on the computer a bunch of coupons that say "ONE FREE PASS granted to the mother of your child (to be redeemed as necessary for the next 8 months)." we'll see what he has to say to that.

heather, i thought about you all night last night while i was making a double batch of hummus. sending you all my love, girl.

:grouphug

-laura

[heatherevond]

Tooby- congratulations on the u/s.

I thought I could wait until Monday to have someone confirm my intuition. I have made so much peace with this.

We decided that we will continue to eat better (dh loves that high fat processed junk) and start the meds once I am done with the process.

DH is trying so hard to make me feel positive about this. Now that I have the peace about it, it hurts more to hear his hope.

But.. I will be moving over to the other board after Monday.. I will lurk and see how you all are doing from time to time.. :wave.

[tabitha]

laura- i just wanted to say my last pregnancy was riddled with fights between me and karl,terrible ones. Mostly they happened in my first trimester, then we didnt fight for awhile, then when we moved up here (i was 6months ) they began again and lasted through my 7th month. Awful fights. I felt miserable and worthless even though i had not done anything really wrong, i just felt bad for my baby but i would be unable to let it go, or rise above it as you say. We got through it,my son is fine,and karl and i are still very much in love. We also have a passionate realtionship. we are bad at arguing with eachother, and i am bad at arguing period because i had a bad childhood full of arguments. i shut down- and i cant stop crying. After i cry,for however long my whole body is affected and my eyes ache. This time we are doing great, i think karl learned alot about me last time and knows how to keep my happy. a whenever i think of how karl has stood by me,i am so impressed with him.he isnt really the type that takes praise well, or i would just sit him down and tell him how thankful i am. not much advice here, just understanding. :)

i am hoping for a girl, DoulaSarah, and have failed miserably at not getting attached to the idea! I already have been sewing girl things... :rolleyes: who knows how i will feel if i find its a boy. ??

ewww.so sick every day.:inthet i tried to eat earlier today to see if that would help... i had a bowl of cereal (yummy organic golden flax crunch!) and just now i had a pickle. Love those. I called mamma yesterday after being really sick and ordered her to bring canned soup. I said I neeeed canned soup and pickles. She came with it and it was good.

Oh,and I actually napped!Tristan fell asleep and so did I, we slept for an hour and a half together ! It was wonderful! I highly recommend naps,:LOL Yesterdays was my first since,oh,well since tristan was a newborn over a year ago.

well i guess i have another 7 weeks of this.

tabitha

[3girlsmommy]

Bandana- You said you were making a double batch of hummus. Would you mind sharing your recipe?? I have been craving garlic hummus and bought some yesterday at the store but MAN it's expensive!!! Thanks!

[2BMamaof3]

Heather: You are in my thoughts and prayers. I'm glad you've made peace with this. Do give yourself lots of care and time and love. HUGS

DoulaSarah: I too am surrounded by a messy house (filthy actually) but am online for a bit BEFORE I clean it.

Everyone: THANKS. I'm elated. I'm overjoyed and hopeful and excited. This is the first baby we've made consciously. It is definately a different experience full of intimacy and joy and love.

This is why it is so difficult to deal with friends and rellies who are not terribly excited. I appreciate what you said Sarah, that we are the ones raising our kids and we only give others power if we make that choice. BUT, it still stings a bit. I do know what I'm choosing is the best for my family. But today a dear friend of mine shared her feelings about childbirth...essentially that she was NEVER thrilled with her pregnancies and that the only reason she had them was because she was tired of abortions and too scared to give them up for adoption. This is very sad to me...and just not the way I would want someone to respond to MY news of pregnancy. I felt hurt and offended and...well...whatever. The response wasn't directly to me, but partially because of me and my news. I just don't understand where she is coming from...just as she cannot understand my joy. Unfortunately this is a new revelation to me...as I had intended on asking her to be in attendence of the birth of this new child...but now I just don't feel comfortable with it. Maybe it will change, I don't know. But I'm not sure what to do now. But knowing she thinks it's all frought with major difficulty and sadness and futility is...well...not something I want around me when I am giving birth. I mean, don't get me wrong, I have some REALLY bad days as a parent...days when I wonder just what the hell I've gotten myself into...but HOOOOEY....this is...just beyond my ability to understand. This will eventually need to be addressed with said friend, and I don't know how to do that. Anyway, I needed to vent that.

I'm off to clean now. A good friend (my mom's age) has "adopted" my little 2 year old girl and takes her out for about 4 hours once a week. It is good for EVERYONE involved. Sometimes I do loving things for myself, rest, read, play online, etc...but today, I'm cleaning. I don't want to, but ultimately it will be a loving thing for me. I hate cleaning. There are SO MANY other things I'd rather do. But the floor is so icky...I know when I wipe my foot off on my pant leg that it is time to, at the very least, sweep and mop. eeek.

Abby (YES, call me abby!...I'm glad it is similar to Tooby...hopefully it won't confuse anyone).

[elbee]

Hi mamas!

Just wanted to say 'happy thursday morning'!

And also wanted to touch base and extend my sympathies Heather... Thinking about you and your family lots and sending healing vibes... xoxo


I must admit to feeling some relief that others have had similar reactions from their families! Makes me feel a little less like I have the weirdest mother in the world! :LOL

Laura, I know how hard that can be... The fighting when you're pregnant just seems doubly awful. Dh and I never never used to fight to the same degree before we had Finn. What really bugs me though is that my behaviour is always pointed out as being irrational by dh because of preg. (or nursing) hormones.. I feel like that is such a low tactic. Makes me feel like my views aren't valid! I know it's probably easier said than done, but can you talk with him and let him know how important peace is to you at this time?

Why is it that all I want to eat is salty food and icecream (not together!)? Ice cream really does seem to sooth my stomach...

I'm DEFINATELy starting to look pregnant! The belly is definately popping out way earlier than it did last time. I already find myself sitting differently, adjusting my pants, shirts getting a little short..
(okay, maybe it's the icecream! hehe)

Have a lovely day!

Laura
mum to Finn (2) and ? (June '04)

[elbee]

Meant to say CONGRATULATIONS Abby!!!! I'm sooo happy to hear your news!!!!

Laura

[Greaseball]

I had to pack away all the shirts that have arms longer than the waistband.

I had my first official mw appt in my home, and I got to meet the other one who will be attending, and got a good feeling about both of them. They said that according to my LMP I'm actually 9.5 weeks, not the 9 weeks I thought I was. So I'm closer and closer to the 12-week safety zone!:) We heard the heartbeat for a fleeting instant, and will probably get a stronger one next month. I'm going to wait until I hear it myself and then ask them to use the fetoscope.

And, they said that since I have irregular cycles, I won't have to get the required u/s at 42 weeks; I can wait until 43! :) :) My first was born at 38 weeks, though, so I don't know if there's any chance of me getting to 43 weeks. It actually puts my due date at May 29; I hope I don't get kicked off this thread!:crying I'm still going to try to hold it in till June.

[bandana]

:love :love :love :love :love :love

i love you ALL.

first, i'm an :moon

because i never said CONGRATULATIONS, Abby! i am so thrilled for you. you will NOT take this pregnancy for granted! that's a beautiful thing! and i'm glad you told your friend BEFORE you asked her to be at your birth...now you know her vibe will be most unwelcome. be careful cleaning. i just bought some orange stuff that's an all natural cleaning agent, and it works REALLY well! i can't remember what it's called....

secondly, heather...you amaze me.

thirdly (is that a word?), thank you all, once again, for being so supportive. laura (elbee) hit the freaking nail on the head when she said that our feelings aren't validated because they're chalked up to hormones. WHO CARES, they're still feelings!

and finally, a GREAT hummus recipe (one batch, which is a lot):

- 4 cups of cooked garbanzo beans (or 2 16 oz. cans)
- reserve liquid from cooked beans or cans
- 3 Tbsp. tahini (sesame paste)
- 1/2 cup lemon juice (1-1/2 to 2 lemons)
- 1 Tbsp. olive oil
- 2 tsp. ground cumin
- 1/2 tsp. sea salt (or regular salt; and i tend to use a bit more)
- 1 Tbsp. minced or finely chopped garlic (i use more of this too!)
- few dashes of red pepper or hot sauce

mix all ingredients in a large bowl except the reserved garbanzo liquid. use a food processor to mix, and use the reserved liquid to make the right consistency.

:yum

love, laura

[Kerlowyn]

Food cravings, ugh, I have them already. I have been eating my son’s Peanut Butter Panda Puffs by the handfuls. I can’t walk through the kitchen without grabbing them.:rolleyes:

I am on my 3 pair of pants today, nothing is comfy and I am not as PG most of you!! (due about 6/26). I feel so bloated. I need go get some pants. Have any of you tried the Old Navy maternity jeans, the low ones that don’t have the panel? I’m not ready to wear all out maternity clothes yet.

When I was this PG with my second baby, DH and I were getting married. I had a strapless corset wedding dress that barely fit in the bust; I was spilling out everywhere that day!! I guess this time I am expanding in the tummy first.

I know what some of you mean by getting attached to the baby’s gender. I am hoping for a third boy, everyone else wants a girl so bad, including DH. I have a feeling it is a girl, (long story having to do with a dream I had long ago.) I am nervous about having a girl. Growing up I was such a tomboy, and still am. I guess I am afraid I will have a ‘girly girl’ and I won’t know what to do!!
:scratch
As far as reactions go, we have only told a few people. I want to wait till I am in the second trimester. I am a very private person when it comes to personal stuff. My mom knows because she lives with us. After I had Zack we did let everyone know we would try to have another baby right away. I think that may have been a mistake though, because now all of DH’s family and our friends have been asking me for the last 8 months “Are you pregnant yet?? What kind of question is that to ask someone??!!:nono I mean, what if I was trying all that time with no success?? How bad would that make someone feel?? Last weekend was Zack’s first birthday, and everyone asked, and I told them all “no” I will pay the price for that later when they find out I am, and count back the days.
:rotflmao

[dharmama]

Heather ~ You are in my thoughts. Does your DH still have to go away this week? Do you have some supportive people around you?

Abby ~ Congratulations...glad your appointment went so well!

And welcome HomebirthHarriett!! :wave

Greaseball ~ Glad your first appointment went well too!

Laura (elbee) ~ What's your due date? My belly is starting to pop out a little and I'm only 7.5 weeks. :eek I have gained 5 pounds already, which I think is a little excessive maybe? :confused: I eat ALL DAY!! Every two hours minimum...if I have to go out somewhere I have to bring food...I get totally freaked out about the idea of being somewhere without access to food. :rolleyes:

My big cravings are milk and orange juice (neither of which were things I drank before I was pregnant)...oh and spinach pies and of course ICE CREAM!!!

I took a walk today during my lunch break...trying to offset my massive calorie intake with a little exercise at least.

Ay, ye, ye...

Oh and I am VERY c-r-a-n-k-y!!!! Everyone and everything at work is driving me crazy!!! :angry

Yay! It's 5 o'clock....I can go home! :D

~Erin
:love

[seedling]

Heather, I am really sorry. :hug

Congrats on the great appointments this week. Welcome HomebirthHarriett.

I'm reading all the posts but not much new to add here. I feel like I'm starting to pop out too. My neighbor is exactly 4 weeks ahead of me and she's already showing and in maternity clothes. I'm so glad I can wear sweats most of the time.

One funny thing that happened ... my dad called last night. He & I don't have the closest relationship due to a nasty divorce, me being really young, and him just dropping out of the picture. But he has REALLY been trying the past 8 years or so to be a part of my life. And I appreciate it. But we aren't confidants or anything. Well he called last night when I was just starting dinner prep, the house was a shambles, I'd managed to work ONE lousy hour all day (I work at home), my dd was throwing a tantrum because I'd given her peanut butter crackers instead of a peanut butter sandwich to get her thru till dinner, and well, I just was about two steps from loosing it. Well, he called and asked me how my day was. I almost started crying. It was right there in my voice. He IMMEDIATELY started telling me jokes and soon got off the phone. My dh and I chuckled about it several hours later when I'd gotten it all together (with his help). My poor dad, I bet he won't call again at dinner time any time soon!

[isismama]

Hey everyone,

Well, I am so jealous of all of you that are eating and craving good food!

I have completely lost my desire to eat. Almost everything makes me throw up or feel sick. The smell of cooking foods makes me extremely sick which is a BIG problem. When my partner cooks dinner, I have to stay in the bedroom with the window open. I can not wait for this to end. I'm vegan but I hate all vegan protein sources at the moment except for nuts. I'm a little worried about my iron intake as a result.

Arrrgh, "morning" sickness sucks.

I'm also very tired and not the funnest mama in the world AT ALL! I feel a little bad for my two year old because I am always so exhausted but hopefully this will pass in four or five weeks.

Knock on Wood!


Becky

[Greaseball]

I haven't tried ON maternity jeans, but I have 2 pairs of ON maternity pants - some tan slacks I'm wearing now; they have a panel but it's the same color as the pants and it's smaller, so it can be covered by regular shirts, and also a pair of gray stretch pants that don't look too much like maternity clothes.

All of my regular pants don't fit anymore. So all I have are the maternity pants, and 2 pairs of "fat" pants and then all my skirts, which still fit.

[Queen of Cups]

Well, I was in desperate need of some business casual/church/family reunion clothes to get me through the winter, so I finally had to buy some. I'm not really showing yet, but I didn't want to buy clothes that would only fit for a month... so I got a couple pairs of nice leggings and longish courderoy shirts and sweaters. They don't look "maternity" but I'm hoping they'll cary me through the winter!

To try to cut back on the m/s I switched from my pre-natal with iron to taking two Flintstone vitamins a night plus a folic acid supplement. I also had a high-protein snack right before bed, and I felt MUCH better this morning. We'll see if it was a fluke or if it will continue. My breasts still alternatly hurt and itch... but at least they're huge! (comparatively, that is - I started at a 36B and I'm now about a 38C)

Other than my food poisoning scare (ate a bite of some almost-raw chicken by accident, but a nurse at my practice said I shouldn't worry about it - its probably not even going to make me sick), I've had an okay day. Just tired and a little queasy, as usual. I'm really hoping that my m/s will magically disapear right at 11 weeks - exactly on my birthday!

[rubelin]

((Heather)) Just an extra little hug for you. I am so glad you're feeling some peace. I hope you do choose to start TTC at some point, there is a spirit out there that would be so blessed by having you as their momma :)

Welcome Harriet!! My DS was also the first of his generation on all sides, and we were the first parents of most of our friends. It was fun, but it was tough being the trailblazers. I much prefer having other preggies in my life.

Laura (bandana), Sometimes I just have to sit my DH down during a mellow moment (or sometimes during a sappy one, like a sad movie) and let him know that my feelings are very hurt and that I need him to respect me, etc. We are passionate, too, and DH is a nasty fighter (I would rather leave and cool down than say/do something horrid) and we've worked out a lot in the past few years since Ben was born, but it still gets ugly sometimes, and we fall into old ruts. Still, he has stayed by me through some really ugly times with my PMS, so I know he's committed to making it work and being happy. Oh, and THANX for the recipe!! I have a half dozen cans of garbonzos waiting to be whipped up into hummus!!!

I am also a bit attached to the gender of this babe. I really want a girl this time, and not because I don't want more boys (I really do want another one, actually, and we have his name picked out and everything), but I just want to know that I'll have at least one daughter. It's really important to me, and I do not want to be "trying" for a girl over and over. We really only want 3 kids (well, I'd be happy with more, but DH wants to stop at 2, why do most men think 2 is a magic number for kids??) and if this one is a girl, we might just adopt our "bonus" baby #3 :)

Mmmm, spinach pie... must-have-quiche... Geez, you guys always make me hungry even in the throes of oogie-gassy stomache stuff!

I have got to get back to eating more protien, that's the only thing I can think if that I've done differently the past few days, and I've been feeling so wretched. It doesn't help that my sleep is all messed up due to getting up with sick DS, but at least I got in a short nap today before he woke up hacking up a lung, ugh, I'd better not get it next!!

Ok, gotta get finished up, I told DH we could have a TV date at 11, and I'm late! Night all!!

[eilonwy]

*sigh* I've been very depressed lately. It's probably hormones, but sometimes I feel like the universe is conspiring against me.

Wednesday I got a ticket from a meter maid following a street cleaner. They were a block and a half behind me, and I was going to take ds in to my mom and move the car before they got there. Wouldn't you know it, the b**** sped up just to give me a ticket!! (Really. She did :(). When I saw them speeding up I tried to run, but I couldn't leave my son on the porch! I said "If I'd sat him on my lap and moved the car would you have still given me a ticket?" and she had the nerve to be self righteous as she said "I can't give tickets for that, it's your choice if you want to risk your baby's life for $20." :splat I wanted to strangle her.

Of course, I was pissed for the rest of the day, so ds spent the whole day screaming and wanting me to hold him. He was supposed to have his birthday pictures done, but he completely refused to cooperate, and screamed bloody murder every time I tried to let go of him. That did wonders for my mood. If I could have screamed and ranted for a bit, I'd have been fine, but now that I've got a baby, I'm never allowed to get angry. :splat I can feel the rage building every minute of every day, but instead of letting it out I end up just wallowing. :(

So I find myself thinking "What the hell made me think I could do this with two? What was I thinking, I can't even deal with one!" Dh is convinced that we can do two just as well as one, but sometimes I think he's lost his mind. Other times, I think that if he had to stay home with ds he might have a different opinion. I want to kick him for wanting another baby. I want to kick myself for thinking I could possibly handle it. Now I'll have 2 people screaming in my ear if I have the audacity to get upset about anything. I'm totally depressed and don't feel like ttc was the right thing to do. I mean, it seemed like a good idea at the time, and I still have my moments when I'm excited about the new person, but I'm just so depressed right now. I feel like it's all work and no play and like I was a total moron for getting myself into this. I don't regret the baby, but sometimes I feel like we should have waited for Eli to graduate from college. Not logical, I know. But that's how I think sometimes. :(

[liz-hippymom]

Sarah-
i just wanted to say that i am in the same place as you. DS and DSS are 15 months apart-
and i dont think anyone knows this but DSS lives with us all the time and dosnt see his biomom and he callls me mommy and has since he said it for the first time at a year, so for all practical and emotional puposes he is my DS-
but having two boys is ENOUGH for me.. i mean i want a healthy baby YADDA YADDA... but i sooooooooo want it to be a healthy girl....if this one IS a boy we are not TTC the natural way again we will be doing a little sperm spinning, cause it sounds like a nightmare to me to have 4 boys ! :eek
i have always imagined having a girl..sigh
everyone who has made a guess says this one's a girl..i am hoping they are right and its not just wishful thinking!

oh , and DH drives me nuts..he is so sweet but for some reason being pregnant seems to make me perma-bitch... i am always snapping...i think its because i feel so SICK all the time. hopefully when i feel better ill be nicer...

i have this great pair of maternity pants. they are from motherhood and they are black cords. they are lowriders with a large black streachy part all the way around. when i wear them i actually look preggo and not fat so i wear them like every day!!

[kayjayjay]

Hi everyone. I haven't posted in a while, just wanted to chime in and say I'm still here. I am starting to feel the ms, but only in the evenings...wierd. I'm just glad to have some positive sign that things are ok!

Heather, I'm sorry for your loss. I hope you have peace. I'm struggling with emotional detachment to this pregnancy because of fear of losing it. It's like after losing one I can't just assume that because we're pg that we'll get a baby out of it. I really want to have peace with it either way, but it's hard. You're in my thoughts. :hug

I haven't dug out any of my maternity clothes yet (I'm only 6 weeks!) but I am wearing my sweats around non-stop because the pressure on my belly from my regular pants is starting to bug me.

DH and I were talking about the gender thing the other night and I really think I don't care. It would be fun to have a whole herd of little girls, but having the boy adventure would be fun too. We have a boy name all set but I'm going to start running out of girl names soon!:)

Hope everyone has a good weekend.

[bandana]

well, i think this is it....MORNING SICKNESS. but i'm not really sure because i ate WAY too much last night and i already had breakfast this morning....i hope it will pass. i haven't actually done the deed, but i feel like i'm seconds away.

travelling this weekend to the florida-georgia game in jacksonville. it's usually the biggest party weekend of the year where all of our college friends reunite. i hope i can maintain! at least they enacted the no-smoking law here in florida, so that if we go anywhere that serves food, there won't be smoke.

i wish you all a great weekend. i'll be thinking about you heather.

-laura

[3girlsmommy]

UGH! I puked for the first time this morning. :( Sorry if tmi but I was really hoping to just have that yucy feeling in my belly w/out actually getting sick. YUCK!!!

Happy Halloween Everyone!!!

[Doodlebugsmom]

Well, my night sickness has progressed to all day queasiness. I fell like I could throw up at any time. I am having trouble eating too. I just feel yucky! I hope this is over by Thanksgiving!

[seedling]

Eilonwy, I just want to post real quickly to offer you some moral support and some "I know how you feel".

This pregnancy, for me, was very much planned and wanted, but I am in a panic about how in the world I'm going to manage. My freak outs are mostly financial. I work at home and have a really HARD time some weeks making that work with one child. Yet, my dh's income would be enough to BARELY pay our bills. We COULD survive but only if we had some money in savings to fall back on for emergencies (we have a really old, ramshackle house and aging cars) and no credit card debt. So that's what I'm fixating on...trying to get in a good place financially so that if I can't manage two kids and a part-time job, we'll be okay. Anyway, all that to say that I too, am freaking out some days.

But, we'll figure it out. Other people do it all the time. WE WILL FIGURE IT OUT. That's what you have to keep telling yourself. And if there is one area of the big picture that is freaking you out, like finances for me, or maybe developing a good support network of folks to call when you've had "enough", or whatever, then focus on working on that issue. I find it makes me feel more okay about adding another member to our family when I do something constructive with my concerns.

And if you are feeling pissed, let it out. It's better to vent that hold it all in.

Sending you encouragement and hugs!

[elbee]

Just wanted to throw in my "me too!".
I've been super grumpy, gloomy and moody. I really really do think it alot of it is preg. hormones. I don't want to shoot myself in the foot over this one since just yesterday I was complaining about not having my feeling and gripes taken seriously because they are always attributed to preg. hormones.
In the case of this grey cloud hanging over my head though, I am happy to pin it on that, thinking that it'll pass probably with the first trimester. There are so many stresses in the first trimester eh? I'm finding it really hard to wrap my mind around the fact that there IS a baby in there. This baby too is very very much wanted (though a surprise still, not planning to ttc 'til december) but the idea of trying to juggle this circus with 2 kids? Freaks me out. I already feel guilty enough at times about the lack of focus and energy I have for Finn. And financially? I won't even start!

I really really think it WILL pass. As our babies get bigger inside us,the nausea passes, feeling those wavey movements, being able to really know that it's going to happen. It'll be hard not to get excited.

I find myself feeling a bit envious of people having their first baby... There is nothing like that first pregnancy. YOu have all the time in the world to focus your energies on yourself. It's magical and mysterious and new. With the second, I'm still very excited mostly, but the strain of looking after a toddler whilst feeling like my limbs are sandbags.(and wondering how much worse the sleep deprivation will be with 2!)... can be a bit of a downer! :LOL

One foot in front of the other, that's my mantra these days. I'm also realizing that for my own health and the baby, I NEED to reduce my stress level. THere's some funny little saying that I came across awhile back:
"Can do something about it? Why worry?
Can't do anything about it? WHy worry?" I'm really trying to subscribe to that.

Big hugs all you stressed out, sicky mamas. It really really is an enormous relief for me to know that I'm not alone! xoxo

LB
mama to Finn (2) and ? (June '04)

PS. And can I just mention how irritated I am with my cat right now?!!! He keeps puking in the house and I'm about ready to put a sign out on the lawn "Free cat!"
:)

PPS. Erin, I'm about 6 weeks:) so it's a little early to be popping out, but my pants are definately giving me that "won't fit big belly" line! Hard to tell if it isn't gas too? I'm super super gassy! Anyone else?

[dharmama]

I'm vegan but I hate all vegan protein sources at the moment except for nuts.

Becky ~ Same here. :gross Well I'm vegetarian not vegan but still...I have tempeh and tofu in the fridge, TVP in the cupboard and I don't want any of it. :tsk I do crave eggs big time. My poor chickens...I'm out there every morning poking around looking for more eggs!!! :rolleyes:

Wait Robin....did you say you had an 11 o'clock tv date with your DH???? :eek I'm LUCKY if I can stay awake past 9....usually I"m all tucked into bed by 8:30!!! :zzz