nocturnal mamas tribe

[poxybat]

:joy:
my name is layla and sunlight makes me sleepy...
:wave

where are all my night owl sisters? :love

[crittersmom]

I'm here.Its 1:40 in the morning.I wish they had midnight garage sales and farmer's markets for night owls.:D

[poxybat]

oh that would be awesome! :D

the sun is actually comming up here... a friend of mine once said that witnessing the sunrise is more special/beautiful because less people see it.

[snguyen]

Hey there, glad to see I'm not the ONLY mom up at 3 AM without the excuse of a hungry newborn! My other momma friends think I'm nuts. But ya know, this is my ME time. No responsibilities, family's in bed, it's quiet and uninterrupted.

I've got church in about seven hours though, so I guess I should get to bed!

[CharlieBrown]

1:31 here, but I'm off to bed.

[majikfaerie]

:wave
can I join?
I'm not so much of a night owl, but I live in a timezone where mostly I'm online when it's the middle of the night for most MDCers, so i'm around to chat, but only with insomniacs :lol

[redveg]

I would love to join this tribe!! I'll be back when I can't sleep!

[eilonwy]

:lol :wave Hi! I definately belong here. Now I know where to find an active tribe when I'm up at 2 in the morning. :lol

[majikfaerie]

:wave :)

[redveg]

Hello mamas. What's going on? I hope everyone had a great weekend. Everyone in my house is sleeping!! Well, not everyone!

[majikfaerie]

hi rv :)
we had a good weekend.
I'm not sleeping.

[redveg]

Glad to hear you had a good weekend mf. Not glad to hear you aren't sleeping. How did the scrabble game go??

[happyhats]

I've always been a nightowl. Even now that I have a few more things to do in the am I find myself up late and then taking a nap. I'm pregnant with my first, and everyone says I'll change my ways. But I just can't seem to make a habit of going to bed before 10-11 at the VERY earliest, ya know? Even if I've been away since early am I just end up taking a nap in the afternoon and repeating the pattern.

[eilonwy]

I've been an insomniac for much of my life. When I'm pregnant or ill (as now) I sleep a lot more than at other times. That said, I still usually require less sleep than anyone else I know except possibly my brother. :o

When we were kids, my brother and I used to get up in the middle of the night and make tea. We'd then do random weird projects, like program the Commodore 64 in Basic. :o

Poxybat-- your post made me giggle a bit because "lailah" (lie-lah) is actually Hebrew for "night." Weird, huh?

[battymama]

Yay! me too! although so many of the mamas from the pagan circle are here, i am starting to wonder if there is a conection.

[Cutie Patootie]

I've always been a night owl. Lately, it's even worse though. I used to make it to bed around 2 or 3am, but I'm pregnant with baby #3 and I have a very bad cold, so that ain't happening. :rolleyes It's 4:23, it's hot and stuffy, I have super acid reflux and I am sitting in bed with the laptop...dh is sleeping beside me. I found myself reading threads from 2005 a short while ago. :rotflmao

[majikfaerie]

Glad to hear you had a good weekend mf. Not glad to hear you aren't sleeping. How did the scrabble game go??
i won the scrabble game

:wave to everyone! wow! I've finally found a place where people are online when I am!

[poxybat]

Poxybat-- your post made me giggle a bit because "lailah" (lie-lah) is actually Hebrew for "night." Weird, huh?
indeed. i knew that(im a big nerd).
my dad named me after the clapton song but its so appropriate for me lol

yay im so glad this thread didnt die.

happyhats: everyone said id grow out of it too. i was wishing for one of those babies who is up all night and sleeps all day. i got lucky :love

[stormborn]

Yay another nightcrawler thread!

Present.:joy: I was afraid the new baby would be a day child and I'd have to attempt to drag the 7yo to the light side. :cold:But we got lucky; newcritter fits right in.

What's everyone up to tonight?

[eilonwy]

I started a Yahoo! Group looking for folks who are interested in starting a local Earth Scouts Troop. :shrug I love the internet. :lol

I'm also watching a Netflix disc and playing games on Facebook. I *should* be reading, but i don't wanna roll my behind out of bed. I'm not sleeping well, but I'm comfortable, damn it! :lol

All of my kids are asleep. I like them this way. :o I'll have to get up early when the baby's hungry, and start the school day with the boy. It's all good, though; I've never been a huge sleeper. :shrug

[thisiswhatwedo]

eternal night owl who was able to get number one to sleep late but then two and three came back to back and now staying up for my precious me time means less and less sleep. I tend to crash every three days and fall asleep with my wee ones and recharge ( like 10 hours of sleep)so I can go another three with maybe 5 or 6. I think ten years of nursing and family bed have made less sleep and being tired normal
so hello glad to join the tribe:coffee:bigeyes:bigeyes:bigeyes

[bunnybartlett]

I have always been a nightowl....prekids worked night shift etc.

Hubby is a morning person and it makes him so mad...go figure??!!

LOL

[eilonwy]

Heh, stormborn. If Bear had been a girl, I wanted to name him Daenerys. Mike was... not exactly in favor. But it's such a cool name!

[stormborn]

Heh, stormborn. If Bear had been a girl, I wanted to name him Daenerys. Mike was... not exactly in favor. But it's such a cool name!
Hehe, ya I've tried to use it twice and no go with dh. Mostly because her initials would be DP.:eyesroll

[eilonwy]

It would have been her middle name. I was SO close to getting Ender for Bear's middle name, too. *sigh*

[crittersmom]

Its not late night for me yet...I'll have to come back after they are off my lap....:wink

[stormborn]

I'm here.Its 1:40 in the morning.I wish they had midnight garage sales and farmer's markets for night owls.:D
That would be great! I'd settle for a midnight playdate though. Anyone want to move in next door?:loveeyes:

[stormborn]

I'm off my butt to cook; got another 4 bags of apples to deal with.:eat:

Night Mamas!

[majikfaerie]

hey night owls! who's awake?

[eilonwy]

I'm awake again. Hopefully I'll be able ot get some real sleep soon...

[majikfaerie]

:hug

[redveg]

I tried to be a night owl last night, but this stupid cold has me worn out!!

[battymama]

i love the name Daenerys! absolutly love the books too, they are some of my faves, just saving up to get the latest one actually.

[eilonwy]

:eyes Latest one? Do you mean Dance is out?!

[battymama]

not sure the latest one out in oz, i am still recovering from preg brain unfortunatly, i am racking my brain, nope no luck sorry. I could go look it up? now i am going to have to, hang on.

[battymama]

No i mean feast of crows, i read it awhile ago at the library, but i need my own copy. Also there is another book of his newly out here, i think of short stories. Eh my memory is so bad :( i get confused easily unfortunatly these days.

[majikfaerie]

now i'm being a night owl for real! its 1am here. dang i should go to bed.

[poxybat]

its not really that late right now but it feels late.

my dp just went to sleep.

im watching something on kubrick films.

fun

[poxybat]

whats everyone reading?

im right in the middle of milk money and madness... oh its getting me all riled up!

[crittersmom]

I haven't read any books in awhile,the critters keep taking them or I loose them.Someday I'll be able to read more than a magazine blurb while on the pot.:wink
ooo a midnight playgroup sounds great, when we were in WA most of my block was stationed with the same ship so when our spouses were gone we hung out with our kids til the wee hours.Made the adjustment from 2 kids to 3 easier.
Gotta go cook dinner the sun hasn't even set here yet.:D

[happyhats]

I just finished Certain Girls by Jennifer Weiner. Before that was Firefly Cloak by Sheri Reynolds. Now I'm trying to get into White Oleander. I tried to read it once before...I'm not sure what my block is with this book, lol. If I don't get into it this time I'll have to donate it...the library sale is this weekend, no point holding onto things, lol.

Maybe I'll go to the library tomorrow.

[poxybat]

ooh the library here is having a sale... im excited...

[magentamomma]

Night owl here too. Always have been. drives dh batty. The problem is that these days I don't sleep well at night at all so I sleep half the morning away. I don't know why my best sleep comes between 6-10 a.m. People used to give me sh** about it but I have set boundaries now saying its my life I'll sleep when I want to.

I really value the time alone. No kids. No Husband.

[magentamomma]

Oh and I am reading YA-Yas in Bloom by Rebecca Wells, and Many Children Left Behind, a series of essays on the effects of the No Child Left Behind Act on our schools.

[crittersmom]

Sigh...I thought I would have a chance to chat but my baby is stirring...
I used to bake late at night.I'd try out new recipes.Now I watch the shows I DVRed during the day so that I could actually listen and not have to watch commercials or through a child.:D

[east carolina]

Nocturnal mama here too! Currently reading an older New Yorker and one of the Lemony Snicket books.

DS goes to bed later than me sometimes. Like magentamama, we both get our best sleeps in the early morn, like 4-10 am or so. And I have my best awake time between 8 pm and 2 am.

I've always been nocturnal and so has DS.

[onelittleone]

Me too! Up way too late, and OH so tired in the mornin'!

[majikfaerie]

:lurk:
who else is up?

[majikfaerie]

I'm "working" so I need some distraction, or I might be in danger of efficiency.

[stormborn]

Noooo not efficiency!:cold:

Sorta here; sharing the comp with dd. Regretting introducing her to poptropica.:p

[majikfaerie]

what's poptropica?

[majikfaerie]

and I'm only being partially efficient. I wrote 2 articles already today, but just short ones. and I still have to have a long one before the end of the weekend.

[Susannah M]

I'm here but I should really be cleaning my kitchen since DS is asleep :bag:

[majikfaerie]

I'm here but I should really be cleaning my kitchen since DS is asleep :bag:

not at all. all the good parenting advice says to rest when your kids are sleeping. if you can't sleep yourself, do something to unwind. but don't do housework.do that when they're awake.

[majikfaerie]

and I wasn't just saying that so i'd have someone to talk to :lol

[Susannah M]

not at all. all the good parenting advice says to rest when your kids are sleeping. if you can't sleep yourself, do something to unwind. but don't do housework.do that when they're awake.
Geez, then I'd never get anything done! This kid is up from 6am to 9pm most days and doesn't nap anymore. I work full-time. DP can't focus on much other than DS while he is awake (it is really hard, he is super high energy). So my kitchen is still full of dinner dishes and it is almost 10:30pm.

and I wasn't just saying that so i'd have someone to talk to :lol
Uh huh, sure :wink

[Susannah M]

OMG I just watched your daughter sing about a heart transplant. She is hilarious!

[majikfaerie]

Geez, then I'd never get anything done! This kid is up from 6am to 9pm most days and doesn't nap anymore. I work full-time. DP can't focus on much other than DS while he is awake (it is really hard, he is super high energy). So my kitchen is still full of dinner dishes and it is almost 10:30pm. :hug

OMG I just watched your daughter sing about a heart transplant. She is hilarious!
:lol
yep.
you should see her Hello Kitty song.

[Susannah M]

:lol
yep.
you should see her Hello Kitty song.

I'd love to ;)

[majikfaerie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1UiSmLFncg
*WARNING* it gets stuck in your head

[stormborn]

what's poptropica?

Kids online video game; kinda fun for easily amused 'grownups' as well.:D

[majikfaerie]

Kids online video game; kinda fun for easily amused 'grownups' as well.:D

ah. that makes sense. thanks :)

[stormborn]

Awww I wanna see the hello kitty song but by the time it loads I'll have to go.:irked:dialup sucks

[Susannah M]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1UiSmLFncg
*WARNING* it gets stuck in your head

:( It says that it is no longer available.

[majikfaerie]

:( It says that it is no longer available.

really??? it seems like it's working fine to me. though youtube's been playing up for me today. :(

[dani76]

Hi all! Hey Susannah and Majik. :) I am always online late at night. It's the only time I'm not being tugged at.

[Susannah M]

Okay, now it is working :scratch

Those are some moves she's got! I love the instruction she gives to not laugh - I would have been cracking up after about the first 10 seconds!


And completely OT, but why oh why has no one invented a house that will clean itself?!

[magentamomma]

What a fabulous dancer your dd is! I wish I had video of my girls singing and dancoing. I have one dd in particular who has a very operatic flair for life.

[dani76]

Eleanor is a night owl too, and loved watching the Hello Kitty video. I loved how she would seem to forget the words at times. :)

[east carolina]

Wow, you guys were up late :wink I went to bed 2, but I'm in a different time zone, so I think you guys were posting while I was sleepin' hehe

Majik, your DD is awesome! My DS also likes to compose song or do covers, but only when he's in the mood and he's very camera shy. We recently got him on camera playing the "drums" in the bath. Drums (they're all over the house, DH is a drummer) or air guitar are his main instruments.

[majikfaerie]

thanks everyone :)

I've got loads of vids of DD's songs. she has heaps

[Susannah M]

Danielle! I missed you :(
My kitchen is clean though and all of the fresh tomatoes I have are in the freezer waiting to be canned until Tuesday when I have time. Yay clean house!
Okay, I'm pooped and going to bed. Got to be at work in 7 hours. Ugh.

[crittersmom]

Pst! Is anyone up?I went to one of my last hula classes for awhile and DH actually made dinner and cleaned up and the littlest one is asleep so I really have no excuse to be up.

[crittersmom]

Oh well, night all.

[majikfaerie]

Pst! Is anyone up?I went to one of my last hula classes for awhile and DH actually made dinner and cleaned up and the littlest one is asleep so I really have no excuse to be up.

I'm up

[majikfaerie]

Oh well, night all.

sorry... i missed you :wave sleep well

[stormborn]

Sorry I missed you...we went back to MIL's to can some tomatos. We love your username; those are our favorite books around here.:)

[east carolina]

checking in. DS fell asleep early today, around 10:30. I was reading up on different supplements and herbs and now it's midnight where I am and I'm getting sleepy. I guess I'm not quite as nocturnal tonight as I usually am.

Seems like I am posting several hours before or after most of you.

[majikfaerie]

Sorry I missed you...we went back to MIL's to can some tomatos. We love your username; those are our favorite books around here.:)

which are your favourite books?

[eilonwy]

It's early, but I really want to be asleep; I've had a very long week. :yawn:

[onelittleone]

i am off to bed early tonight - but can i sleep is the question?!

... wishing you night owls much creativity :)

[redveg]

Hey all. I guess everyone is sleeping. I am off to read, I'll be back if it doesn't put me to sleep.

[eilonwy]

My tummy hurts. :(

[redveg]

My tummy hurts. :(

Hope you feel better.

[redveg]

The worst part about being a night owl, is having to get up early with the kiddies!!

[east carolina]

DS fell asleep like way early last night. Around 8 pm. He woke up to nurse more times than usual (prolly cause he skipped dinner) and was definitely up at 5:30. DH slept longer than me so poor guy got up at the crack o' dawn.

On the rare occasions that DS goes to sleep earlier than 11, he always sleeps worse. Tosses and turns, wakes to nurse more often. Anyone else experience this?

[eilonwy]

Well, I've got a kid who sleeps when she's sick. She doesn't whine, cough, wheeze or puke with most things, she just sleeps. She'll sleep for 36 solid hours when she's ill, waking only for water and the toilet. :shrug Her sleep is usually less restful when she starts such an illness.

It's probably got more to do with the rhythm of sleep than anything, though. If he went to bed at 8 every night, his body would be used to planning around it... but because he isn't, his sleep cycle doesn't line up right. It's complicated, and of course without a lot more information I'd have no way of knowing which was the cause and which the effect (i.e. whether the rhythm is what makes him go to sleep later, or he goes to sleep later which made the rhythm different).

[majikfaerie]

hey nocturnal mamas :)
what's new? anyone want to claim responsibility for my ddddc?
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[redveg]

Hey mf. Find out who did it yet??

[Parthenia]

Subbing!
I actually work 3 nights a week, 7 pm to 7 am. While the job is great, interesting, rewarding, and all, I really love the hours. Working tonight, catch ya later!
:wink

[majikfaerie]

Hey mf. Find out who did it yet??
:tsk
no one will admit to it. I still have another couple of suspects whom i've not seen yet. but I think the culprit is just hiding in an egyptian river.

[eilonwy]

Well, I'm going to clean out the minivan a bit. :shrug Now's as good a time as any, right? :lol Who's awake?

[majikfaerie]

Well, I'm going to clean out the minivan a bit. :shrug Now's as good a time as any, right? :lol Who's awake?

I think it's a good time. and i'm awake

[eilonwy]

Well, the minivan is a little less messy. :shrug I've been watching Luther. It's really good, actually (this coming from someone who never has been and never will be a Christian). :thumb I'm also debating the relative merits of snacks. :lol What's up?

[majikfaerie]

Well, the minivan is a little less messy. :shrug I've been watching Luther. It's really good, actually (this coming from someone who never has been and never will be a Christian). :thumb I'm also debating the relative merits of snacks. :lol What's up?
cool
I've been photoshopping :)

http://flickr.com/photos/majikfaerie/2900601877/
http://flickr.com/photos/majikfaerie/2901452372/

[eilonwy]

Ah, back. :) It's Facebook games again for me. If I could manage to hide a booklight, I could read something aside from the computer screen. :rolleyes I think I may watch the South Park movie or something soon. Hm.

What's up?

[majikfaerie]

facebook games! oh no :tsk
:lol

[orangefoot]

Its 1.30am here and I am 'rewarding' myself for spending more than an hour and a half doing business banking and logging invoices. I've just made some flapjack and put that in the oven for the boys to take to school tomorrow and put some oatmeal to soak so that they can cook it quickly in the morning.

Dh took dd2 to bed tonight and has crashed fully dressed with her on the bed. Poor love: he keeps my nocturnal hours but gets up around 8.30 most days to pick up the phone to the people who think that a business should open at 9am on the dot. :dizzy: Now my z key has stuck down...... I hope I won't have to use it too much tonight!

Anyhoo must get back to statements now and get the flapjack out of the oven in a minute.

Cool pics Majik

Did anyone notice that you cleaned the minivan eilonwy?

[redveg]

Hello all. I am getting ready to pack lunches for tomorrow, clean my kitchen, and maybe throw in a load of wash..

[east carolina]

It's almost 10:30 pm here and I'm just settling down to dinner. Having a squash soup. Yum! I am starving. Anyone up, or will I just read you posts tomorrow due to the time difference? We'll see, I guess.

[orangefoot]

I'm up but getting ready to go to bed early! It's only 1.25. I've been adding info to our new data base system and it has made my eyes bleed. I have a numb bum too from sitting on an uncomfortable stool at my sewing cabinet. If I open the lid but don't swing the machine up I can balance the laptop on there an it is a good height to work at. I'd rather be sewing though!

[poxybat]

im horrible in keeping up with my own thread!:innocent

[Lydiah]

I am only popping in here becuase my DH works graveyard shifts this week and i get scared at night. I cant sleep and i have to listen to every sound in the house. I wish i wasnt so paranoid when i am alone. Well i am not totally alone, i have a baby, cat and dog and millions of dust mites.

[majikfaerie]

im horrible in keeping up with my own thread!:innocentyep you're terrible
:lol

[kayleesmom]

do u all get to sleep during day while kids are at school?

[stormborn]

do u all get to sleep during day while kids are at school? My older is homeschooled so she stays up late too. Thankfully mine are night owls too or I would never get anything done.

What's everyone up to this evening?

[Lydiah]

I am up to reading everything about the infowars and the NWO. I was just reading about chemtrails when i decided to check back here. Fascinating stuff. This may sound weird, but i have a feeling a lot of us on MDC are a little strange anyway.

[majikfaerie]

do u all get to sleep during day while kids are at school?
we unschool. dd is more of a night owl than I :lol
This may sound weird, but i have a feeling a lot of us on MDC are a little strange anyway.
really? where did you get that idea? :nut I'm not strange in the slightest.

[orangefoot]

do u all get to sleep during day while kids are at school?

On days when no-one is going to school none of us moves til about 11am. The boys are up at 7 on school days which doesn't suit them as they are as owl-ish as me.

Other days, dd1 dd2 and I often sleep till 11am unless there is somewhere we really want to go earlier.

We have several friends who are disparaging about our late rising and virtuous about their early habits. Is this a protestant work ethic thing? I am working hard after midnight most nights when they are in bed so their jibes about our slothfulness are a bit irritating.

What do others think of your nocturnal life?

[stormborn]

I am up to reading everything about the infowars and the NWO. I was just reading about chemtrails when i decided to check back here. Fascinating stuff. This may sound weird, but i have a feeling a lot of us on MDC are a little strange anyway.

Oh ya I always get sucked into those sites too.:shy Can't right now though..too many windows going already. I'm probably the only dialup customer on MDC.

[majikfaerie]

you're not the only one stormborn...
but whoa, dial-up :hug

[snguyen]

We have several friends who are disparaging about our late rising and virtuous about their early habits. Is this a protestant work ethic thing? I am working hard after midnight most nights when they are in bed so their jibes about our slothfulness are a bit irritating.

What do others think of your nocturnal life?


I hear ya. I think there is a higher value put on 9-to-5 work by many people. Even if you're working hard all night long, most people look down on "graveyard shift" jobs as being last choice and not requiring much, if any, higher education. So I think that's part of it. Me? I'm a SAHM. However, since most people have, and assume everyone else has, early-rising children, they assume it makes the most sense to adjust to the kids' schedule, to get sufficient sleep and get everything else done. Thank God my 2-year-old rarely wakes at 6 AM anymore. When she's up though I get precious little done around the house, much less time to dink around uninterrrupted on the computer or read. So now's my time. Do I get less sleep than I'd like? Yes. Are most other parents of wee ones in that same boat anyway? Yes. I know what you mean though about getting just as much work done as anyone else in a 24-hour day, only on a differnt "shift". I'll clean the house, pay the bills and cook the next day's meals at 1 AM if need be. What are all those crack-of-dawn-rising lazy butts doing at 1 AM? SLEEPING! ; )

What can I say, I'm a Nocturnal Protestant. :thumb

[Jojo F.]

Can I join?

A little intro- I'm a SAHM, homeschooling DS (5yo) and pregnant (25 weeks) with #2. DH stays up pretty late too. And I have always been a night owl, my mom says even when I was a baby. For some reason I'm bright eyed and bushy tailed when the sun goes down, but I do enjoy the sun in the summer.

Our regular bed time is about 2AM, although, DS goes to bed about 10PM but he sleeps in just like me:D

Unfortunately DH has to get up and be at work by 8AM, poor guy, I know he's tired but we just can't get to sleep any earlier, maybe once a month we do.

So that's us in a nutshell. I guess it's time for me to clean up a bit and get ready for bed. But I'll probably end up laying there for another hour, darn insomnia!!

[majikfaerie]

welcome jojo F:)

[eepster]

Anybody else still up? DS and I are. I need to get him to sleep or I won't be able to drag him out of bed for preschool tomarrow. Fortunately it's the afternoon class.

[MommyMichele]

I was an early bird all my life until I had kids. I love the freshness of the morning, the coolness, the chirping birds, the sunrise... I easily hop out of bed no matter how early. I miss those birds and sunrises now though. Over the years since my night owl children came along, we've been staying up later and later.

They take after their Dad. It's kind of funny. Before kids, my husband was the one staying up late all the time, while I couldn't keep my eyes open past 10pm. Now it's the other way around.

It has been a struggle for me. It has been hard to accept that it is possible to be late to something that begins at 11 a.m. Also, I am not at my best at night. Not only am I naturally a morning person, I am also an introvert. After a day full of interactions and demands, at night I want peace and quiet and alone time. And unlike others here, I am not being very productive at midnight. I know I should just go to bed and try to get up early enough to get some things done before the kids wake up, but that hasn't worked yet. Someday I guess I'll be able to revert to my natural early-bird nature, when the kids are older and can get to sleep on their own.

[stormborn]

I'm still up, it's only 3 here though. I'm going crosseyed trying to figure out if we can somehow afford to buy a rental property. Anyone know a "real estate for dummies" site?:dizzy: I'm so confused.

I've run into some attitude about it..mostly from older folks for some reason. Most of the people I know here that work graveyard are in the medical field and very well paid; better than I am anyway.:shy

Hehe thanks for the hugs majik.:love It's weird; we live in the little cursed pocket of no good service unless I pay almost $600 in startup for a local company.

[MommyMichele]

Anybody else still up? DS and I are. I need to get him to sleep or I won't be able to drag him out of bed for preschool tomarrow. Fortunately it's the afternoon class.

My daughter was still awake writing a story.

I hear you on the afternoon class. I am also grateful our gym classes this year are in the afternoon, but it's amazing how even the 1:00 one can be hard to get to on time.

[majikfaerie]

i'm still up too. but it's only 7pm here ;)

[eilonwy]

i haven't slept much tonight, actually-- it's just hard to type with a sick baby beingmiserable on you. :(

[majikfaerie]

:hug eilonwy
hope your bubba feels better soon

[ChetMC]

I have basically no internal clock. A recent move from Atlantic to Pacific time hasn't helped. DH stays up late. I just wake and sleep at freakish and random hours.

[orangefoot]

:wave to all the new nocturnal folk.

We had a bad night with dd2 last night; I think she must be getting some teeth or something. She was horribly restless and kept us both awake on and off. Hopefully tonight will be better.

Wishing you all good rest when you get to bed :hug

[eilonwy]

:wave I've got a friend from Oxfordshire. In fact, I think my brother is there as well. Insanity, how small and yet large the world is. :shrug

Bear's still sick. He's sleeping in little burts, and I'm going to try to catch them. I was soo tired all day today from being up with him. :( Poor little fellow.

[Parthenia]

We have several friends who are disparaging about our late rising and virtuous about their early habits. Is this a protestant work ethic thing? I am working hard after midnight most nights when they are in bed so their jibes about our slothfulness are a bit irritating.

What do others think of your nocturnal life?

I work 7 pm to 7 am 3 nights a week--in fact I'm at work now, and that's a full time schedule. (Ironically, I'm a sleep tech, and spend my working time watching people sleep!) I love my job. I enjoy the work, because it's interesting, challenging, the pay is good, and I help people get better sleep. When I applied for the job, after the doctor went over my qualifications, he asked if I was a night person or a morning person. Obviously a night person, and one of the things that attracted me to the job was the hours.

When I tell people what I do for a living, the standard response is, "that's interesting, but don't you hate the hours? When I say I love the hours, people are surprised.

I have tried to be a morning person, and I failed miserably. Working nights gives me an excuse to sleep in even when I'm not working. Before I had this job I worked 8:30 am-3:30 pm. The schedule was excruciating, and the work itself sucked, for low pay, too. But I noticed more of my friends thought the 8:30-3:30 schedule was great, so I got, "it's too bad the work is awful, but at least the hours are good." :eyesroll

[majikfaerie]

that does sound like an interesting job, parthenia!
I'm a midwife, so I often work crazy hours, but it's never regular or predictable :lol

[ChetMC]

What do others think of your nocturnal life?

People are pretty accepting of my staying up late, or getting up at 3am, or otherwise random sleeping. My dad worked shifts though, as did a lot of other people we knew. Our house wasn't very scheduled since we worked around my dad's shifts and sleeping as much as was possible, and everybody understood that some people do stuff at night and sleep during the day.

I actually have a theory that everyone has a superpower. DH has super human healing. You can practically sit and watch his cuts and scraps be repaired by his body. My superpower is the ability to resist sleep cycles to which the mortal world must succumb, and to function well on not a lot of sleep.

I actually sleep more like a normal person now because DH works business hours (sort of) and the kids are kind of normal. Our oldest is inclined to stay up late and sleep for eleven or twelve hours from when she fell asleep, but our middle child sleeps 8 to 8. Left to my own devices though, without something to impose something of a schedule, I usually lapse into sleeping from pre-dawn to lunch with a nap before supper.

[eilonwy]

Well, despite the lack of sleeping I'm usually awake at an obscene hour. I've just never been a huge sleeper. :shrug Left on my own, I will naturally lapse into a nocturnal schedule, going to bed around 2 p.m. and waking at 6:30-7:00 each evening. I"ve been this way since I was a little girl. I feel like I need more sleep, but if I get more than eight hours on any given night it means I'm ill and/or pregnant. I'm not capable of sleeping for that long every night-- when I try, I end up waking earlier and earlier until I'm only sleeping four. :shrug

So I rarely get the looks about not being productive because I'm up at odd hours. I've always been the friend that people call when something gets screwed up at 2 in the morning. Everyone knows I'm likely to be awake and if not awake able to cope with the interruption. People have been greatful for me being a nightowl on many occasions.

Today I'm tired, though. The baby slept better than he did Sunday night, but he's still not feeling well. That's what messes with me more than the amount of time I get-- the length of the little naps that make up the night. I get into a bad cycle and I'm poorly rested. Four consecutive hours? Fine. Eight hours, chopped into bits? No deal. I'm going to have to finagle a nap or two today; Hopefully the other kiddos will cooperate. :o

[east carolina]

Eilonwy, hope Bear is feeling better and that the kids cooperated:wink

DH is working long hours during the day, and DS has been going to bed before midnight, so it looks like I'm the only night owl in the house currently.

The only person who gives me shit about my family's bedtime is my mom, most of my friends are nigthowls too or don't judge

[orangefoot]

I actually have a theory that everyone has a superpower. DH has super human healing. You can practically sit and watch his cuts and scraps be repaired by his body. My superpower is the ability to resist sleep cycles to which the mortal world must succumb, and to function well on not a lot of sleep.



That is a good way to look at it! I'm off to bed now at a mere 1.40am because it is getting cold down here next to the pc and dh has been in bed for about 4 hours so the bed will be nice and warm:love

[poxybat]

i finally updated my sig pictures... they really needed it. my oldest is turning 5 but her pic was of a 3 yr old.

[eepster]

i finally updated my sig pictures... they really needed it. my oldest is turning 5 but her pic was of a 3 yr old.
I need to get to that soon, DS's pic is around a year old.

[crittersmom]

Back again.I am usually in bed by 1 but lately its been creeping closer to 2 and now its looking like 3.DH is a morning person even without having to go to a job so he just doesn't get it.He thinks I should just close up shop and go to bed at a decent hour like him ( 9, the horror!).Between nursing the baby down and resetting the house for the next day and just getting time without someone on my lap ( including him) I just can't go to sleep that early.I am also the one who takes care of the youngling who needs help at night.
I get to see sunrises and appreciate them too,I am just going to sleep at that time.:D
What's really keeping me up right now is watching the news, BBC American has me in its thrall, no straight newscaster here would wear a lavender polka dot tie and pink shirt.:D

[east carolina]

It's after 2 am here and we just finished watching Casablanca

[orangefoot]

What's really keeping me up right now is watching the news, BBC American has me in its thrall, no straight newscaster here would wear a lavender polka dot tie and pink shirt.:D

You should watch the news on Channel 4 with Jon Snow (http://www.channel4.com/news/); he wears all kinds of tie and shirt combos and you even get a glimpse of sock colour every now an then. I think you can watch again from that page.

Even dh is still awake with me tonight while I've been tracing and cutting a dress pattern and struggling over a small bust adjustment. He's telling me know that he feels like death so I think we'd better head off to bed.

[majikfaerie]

hey all you night owls :) who's up?

[eepster]

We're up still. I got DS to sleep early last night b/c he didn't take a nap, but today he took an extra long one, so I think we'll be up for a while.

[stormborn]

We're up! I really should at least get dd1 to bed though, need to get up by 9 for a cool fall festival.:)

[happyhats]

I'm up, though I really shouldn't be. I should be at least trying to sleep as I'm going out yardsaling tomorrow. I've just been tossing and turning though, so here I am on the mdc!

[majikfaerie]

i'm tired. but dd wont sleep for another 4 hours at least...

[eilonwy]

I passed out beautifully at midnight. Then at 5:30, I was awakened by a car alarm. So was the rest of the neighborhood. :dizzy: Weak. Just weak. :shake

[east carolina]

Car alarms! :nono That sucks.

We ended up watching 8 Mile after Casablanca, so we went to bed after 4 am.

DS composed some songs on guitar today and we got some on tape, so cool! He usually accompanies himself on drum, but he wanted DH to show him his guitar and took it from there. I think he would really get along with your DD, majikfaerie, but then I think everyone would. And we could all party into the wee hours together:love

Hopefully, we'll watch some more movies tonight.

[orangefoot]

Has everyone gone to bed very early the past few nights? We are on a very anti-social nocturnal cycle at the moment going to bed at well past 3am and not getting up til almost midday. By the time we got out of the house today it was 3pm and the same all over the weekend.

We have arranged to meet friends at 11am tomorrow so I might need coffee when I get up...

I have cut the dress out but not yet sewn it up. I'd need to stay up til dawn to get it done and I run out of eye power around 4.

[majikfaerie]

anyone awake?

[redveg]

I have been falling asleep early for the past two weeks. I think it's the change in season?

Hey mf, funny meeting you here.

[majikfaerie]

hey rv :) you stalking me now as well!

[MadameXCupcake]

EEEK, its 1am, and I just found you guys.
I should be sleeping, well duh.. :lol But I'm not. Anyone else up?

[majikfaerie]

I'm up :)

[poxybat]

me too :D

[redveg]

hey rv :) you stalking me now as well!

Yup!!

[majikfaerie]

Yup!!

:blowkiss:
I'm still up

[jenneology]

This tribe is a happy thing for me. Although, now I'm pregnant I've caught myself saying to my husband, "Its 8:30, I'm tired, lets go upstairs." That's unheard of from me! I'm the one who struggles to go to bed before 2 am, and sometimes I wake up at 5 am not being able to go back to sleep. Now I know a place to go when that's happening. I used to lurk around myspace but no one was ever up with me. I guess I was missing the party over here.

As for tonight, I'm up (without a nap earlier!) but its because I'm writing my presentation for my final thesis defense for my M.Ed. which is on Monday. I'm here, because, well, I find that process brainnumbing. Posting or reading on here in between is helping keep me going or I would have given up an hour ago.

So yeah, hi! :wave

[chio88]

count me in on this one :D

[~Boudicca~]

No. Freaking. Way. I can't believe this is a tribe. I so belong here. My sisters! :grouphug

Anyway, do you ever wish that you were a morning person? I have been keeping second to third shift hours for about 12 years now and I am finding that it sucks trying to participate in a world that runs on 9-5 hours, YK? And I will actually go through spurts where I get up at 7 or 8 a.m. (usually for an appointment) and I do great for a few days but then it just takes that one day of sleeping in to throw me off. I feel bad because dd1 really wants to start going to Sunday school (RE) at our old UU church but I cannot bring myself to negotiate the getting out of bed by 8 and trying to coax children through breakfast so we can get out the door in a timely manner.

And I so wish that our homeschool group meetings that we take part in were at 2 or 3...instead of noon.

[jenneology]

Anyway, do you ever wish that you were a morning person? I have been keeping second to third shift hours for about 12 years now and I am finding that it sucks trying to participate in a world that runs on 9-5 hours, YK? .

And I so wish that our homeschool group meetings that we take part in were at 2 or 3...instead of noon.

ITA! Why is it that all playgroups have to start at 10 or 10:30 am? That's when we are waking up! Its not my fault we're antisocial....it all those other people and their kids who wake up so dang early! Totally kidding.

But its true, I have a very hard time functioning on the normal business hours routine. It actually one reason why I do consider homeschooling my kids, as a way to respect theirs (and my) inate need to sleep late.


P.S. Love the UU Church, that's where I was raised.

[majikfaerie]

our HS group started meeting at 10am, but absolutely no one showed up on time, so we switched it to 11am. now we're lucky if anyone's there by 11:30 and it doesn't really start till noon :lol
none of us can get it together to get up and out that early.

[jenneology]

Anyone still up?

I'm currently writing down the so whats to my study. Yay....

[eepster]

I'm still up, but I've got DS asleep, so I'll be taking him up to bed (yeah I nursed him down in my lap) soon and curling up with a nice book. I think he just needs a few more minutes till he's in deep enough sleep to move. We have no school tomarrow, so we can sleep in.:joy:

[eepster]

our HS group started meeting at 10am, but absolutely no one showed up on time, so we switched it to 11am. now we're lucky if anyone's there by 11:30 and it doesn't really start till noon :lol
none of us can get it together to get up and out that early.
I so wish I could convince the other mommies in groups we enjoy to do noon or later. Even in DS's afternoon preschool session most of the families just settled for the afternoon b/c all the morning slots were full.

[majikfaerie]

believe it or not, lots of children wake up at dawn. :dizzy:
so glad mine's not one of them!!!

[jenneology]

I know they do! I think it might actually be the norm that children wake up early, but we're the lucky ones who have children who sleep in!

My husband and I have asked ourselves before: did we make him that way by our actions and routines, or is he genetically programmed like us to go to bed late and wake-up late?

What do you think: is it nature or nurture?

[majikfaerie]

I think it's mostly nature.
at least while they're little. one of our friends has 2 kids; one who wakes up before sunrise every day, no matter what, and one who sleeps in. poor guy :tsk

[jenneology]

I'm still up, but I've got DS asleep, so I'll be taking him up to bed (yeah I nursed him down in my lap) soon and curling up with a nice book. I think he just needs a few more minutes till he's in deep enough sleep to move. We have no school tomarrow, so we can sleep in.:joy:

Ooo, what book?

I'm currently reading the Memory, Sorrow and Thorn series by Tad Williams. Its my first foray into fantasy. I was persistent through Book 1, interested in Book 2 and now I'm anxious to read more in Book 3, Part I. Have you ever read a series that one of the books was so long that it had to be put into two volumes? Its kinda weird....

I don't have "school" tomorrow either. Which means I won't have an infant showing up on my doorstep for all-day care. Yay, sleeping in!

[majikfaerie]

yay for sleeping in! that's one of the best things about homeschooling :)

[jenneology]

That's what I keep trying to tell my husband, but he doesn't think that's a good reason to do it. He's of the mindset that "they're gonna have to learn how to operate on real world time anyway. Get 'em used to it now." Sigh.

Ideas for changing that mindset?

[eepster]

It's one of McCaffery's Pern books.

I suspet that nuture ends up rienforcing nurture. DH and I are both night owls, but DS is a superduper night owl. Any other family would go insane trying to fight it, I just give in to a fair degree.

I think he's ready to move (I'd have gone sooner, but he stirred and wanted to nurse) so goodnight.

[majikfaerie]

Ideas for changing that mindset?
:hammer:
that's the best idea I could come up with
:lol jk

well, I'd say: they'll have to learn to 'deal with the real world' soon enough, so why not let them follow their natural cycle while they can? not to mention, you *are* in the real world :eyesroll

[majikfaerie]

It's one of McCaffery's Pern books.

I suspet that nuture ends up rienforcing nurture. DH and I are both night owls, but DS is a superduper night owl. Any other family would go insane trying to fight it, I just give in to a fair degree.

I think he's ready to move (I'd have gone sooner, but he stirred and wanted to nurse) so goodnight.

really, we totally went insane trying to change dd's sleep cycle. as a toddler she never went to sleep before midnight, and often much later. she didnt settle till we just let go and let her stay up.what a relief that realisation was!

[jenneology]

:hammer:
that's the best idea I could come up with
:lol jk

well, I'd say: they'll have to learn to 'deal with the real world' soon enough, so why not let them follow their natural cycle while they can? not to mention, you *are* in the real world :eyesroll

I agree! And I'm completely enjoying my rendition of the real world.

I also think, why not let them enjoy that natural cycle until say, high school? I'd try to push it longer but I've never heard of homeschooled seminary students in the LDS church, although it would be awesome to be the teacher of my children on those topics. Regardless, they'd have to learn to wake up early serving missions for the church. I am pretty sure there is no way around that one...although I'd like to hear the "insubordination" talks they'd receive. I just remember "my kid was born breaking the honor code." Okay, sorry I'm just rambling now, off in my LDS-isms.

[jenneology]

It's one of McCaffery's Pern books.

I suspet that nuture ends up rienforcing nurture. DH and I are both night owls, but DS is a superduper night owl. Any other family would go insane trying to fight it, I just give in to a fair degree.

I think he's ready to move (I'd have gone sooner, but he stirred and wanted to nurse) so goodnight.

Good night!

[jenneology]

Wow, I didn't think that I would actually finish tonight but I did. Now I'm off to bed to cuddle with my sweet wee one and my best friend.

[majikfaerie]

yay for cuddling :) goodnight!

[majikfaerie]

so is anyone else up?

[~Boudicca~]

yay for sleeping in! that's one of the best things about homeschooling :)

:nod Absolutely!

We tried to do a ballet class for Zoe at 11 a.m. last winter and trying to get up early resulted in tears, frustration, and eventual dislike for going to ballet. I could not even imagine getting up at 6:00 or 7:00 to pack her off to school. We would kill each other.

[eepster]

We got to sleep in till after noon :love

Wow, I didn't think that I would actually finish tonight but I did. Now I'm off to bed to cuddle with my sweet wee one and my best friend.
I think it's harder to be an online nightowl from the west coast than here on the east coast. When all the east coasters are tucked in I still have west coasters up and going to chat wthi.

[majikfaerie]

there's always the australian night owls to chat with ;)

[happyhats]

As far as dealing with real world time, I think that's kinda a crock, no offense. There are PLENTY of careers in the "real world" that being nocturnal is perfectly normal, if not ideal. And not just in blue collar fields, although if you work in those fields second or third shift you can make more money.

[majikfaerie]

totally. doctors in hospitals work nights, and in the mainstream eyes of success, Dr is about as high up as you can get. next time someone hassles me for letting dd stay up till whenever, i'm just gonna batt my eyelashes and say "no, I force her to stay up late, coz i'm planning for her to be a surgeon in a busy emergency room. She has to get in training for the real world" :lol

[majikfaerie]

so is anyone up? It seems like i'm the only person on mdc today

[poxybat]

i woke up at midnight for some reason... and it seems like threads are going slow.

i like how when asked about bedtimes my oldest will say 'i dont go to sleep, i fall asleep'
since she was a little one the usual way of getting her to bed is letting her play til she lays down.

[jenneology]

I was up last night, but I was hungrily finishing that book series. When my husband fell asleep I had 200 pages to go and he said he didn't think I'd finish before I went to asleep. Well, I did. at 1:15 am.

Then today, I napped with the Chunka who started his nap at 6 pm, so I'm up! Browsing on here, mostly. I could be reading up on the additions I need to make to my thesis before I submit it. But I'm not... I also think I'm pretty awake because I did yoga between the nap and bedtime. Excersizing at night tends to wake me up.

I like the real world thing about night owls. But before the doctors "get" to work nights, they have to slave through college and medical school which requires early mornings. Also I'd be VERY surprised if one of my children decides to be a doctor because my husband and I are very vocal in our disrespect for the type of doctor that we dislike (and I think they are actually the rule rather than the exception). And our kids aren't likely to be the blue-collar type (I don't think). But adult children have minds of their own, and tend to do things different than their parents, so maybe.... However, family values tend to be strong predictors too, hmm, interesting pondering...

P.S. I skipped the playgroup this morning and cancelled on the mom group for tomorrow. Both were 10 am.

[spiritofthings]

Oh man, just came across this thread. Can it really be that other moms are up when I am. I thought I was the only insane and fatigued mom on the planet!

Good to know... good to know... I'll be checking in on this thread again.

Blessings to you other nocturnal mamas.

[majikfaerie]

hi spiritofthings nice to meet you :) don't worry; mom is a synonym for insane and fatigued ;)

[poxybat]

my oldest just turned 5 :D

today were getting her pet rats. who are also nocturnal :)

[majikfaerie]

cool! nocturnal famlies should have nocturnal pets

[poxybat]

indeed. its boring if youre up and your pet is always asleep.

we have nocturnal cats too :)

[eepster]

Who's still up?

DS is still going, though NAK so I hope he'll fall asleep soon. He took an extra long nap today (I fell asleep with him, which makes him stay asleep longer,) so he's off schedual.

[orangefoot]

After reading the Crock Pot megathread on the meal planning forum I went and bought a crock pot on Saturday. I'd love not to be doing a meal for an hour at the 'ratty' bit of our day between 5ish and 6ish.

However....yesterday dh and I discovered the crockpotting may not be very compatible food prep thing for us nocturnal types. We got out of bed at midday, and got to the shops at 3 to buy the coriander and fennel seeds that we didn't have for the recipe we were drooling over. We got it all in teh pot at around 5pm and had to go from low ofr 8 hours to high for as long as we thought! It was done around 9pm and totally worth waiting for but I think I might have to prep stuff at night and get one of the boys to switch the thing on when they go to school another time!

We moved from summer time to BST over the weekend so our clockes went back. Bizaarely this means we are now going to bed a bit earlier becuase 2am is now 1am. I think this effect will wear off in a week or so:wink

Welcome to the new night folk! Darkness if very comforting.

[SarahSeesStars]

I've always been a nocturnal person. Heck, I believe my animal spirit is the owl! For the last few years, before my son, I worked at a bar keeping hours that suit my inner clock (usually 7pm-3am). I love doing grocery shopping in the wee hours because there is usually NO ONE there except stock people and I can zip through my list in record time.

The only downside is that, besides the grocery store, nothing else is open when I'm up and feeling productive! Doctor/hair appointments, car maintainance, and any other shopping requires hauling my zombie butt out of bed to sleepwalk into the sunlight. I dread when DS starts socializing & sleeping through the night because we'll have to flip-flop our schedules :(

[majikfaerie]

i haven't been able to sleep at all lately. i think partially due to going through a break-up with my gf, but also coz we have got an infestation of rats in the house :bang:
i put out poison and traps, so its just a waiting game till they all die. but in the meantime, they're keeping me up at night, even more than usual

[orangefoot]

Majik I'm sorry to hear about you and your gf - and the rats.

[majikfaerie]

thanks OF. it's rats on both coutns :lol

[poxybat]

im sorry you have unwelcome rats. i once had mice and that sucked.

on an ironic note...

our pet rats are just adorable! :D theyre little baby girl rats. my dd named them katy and rosalina. katy is my favourite. she chitters and 'popcorns' around(jumping all sporadically around) and is just the sweetest little thing :joy:

[eepster]

im sorry you have unwelcome rats. i once had mice and that sucked.

on an ironic note...

our pet rats are just adorable! :D theyre little baby girl rats. my dd named them katy and rosalina. katy is my favourite. she chitters and 'popcorns' around(jumping all sporadically around) and is just the sweetest little thing :joy:
We had an uninvited mouse for awhile who became very domesticated and almost pet like. I think the fact that I would be up NAK half the night and talk to him when he came out was what did it.

[crittersmom]

Icky about the rats,i was upset about my itty bitty mouse.
I tried to convince everyone around me to get me a rat for my 14th bday, I don't really know why, maybe it was just a stunt.
I've gone from going to bed at 1 in the morning to going to bed at 3 whcih would be fine if I didn't have to get up to take my oldest to school.There is always someone on my lap so my computer time is pretty limited too.
IN CA a lot of places were 24 hrs and had drive ins and delivery services, I was so spoiled.:wink
I am avoiding the laundry since DD codename Gremlin is awake and feeling spritely.I dont' do it when she is awake because she locks me out of the house.

[majikfaerie]

honestly, i had a pet rat when I was 18, called ZacRat, and I loved him to bits. but that was different. honestly, who wants to get up in the morning (well, afternoon, but who's counting ;) ) to find their kitchen counter covered in rat sh!t? *shudder*
I need to keep my family healthy.

[onlyzombiecat]

Hello!
I got up at 2:30AM. I took the dogs out because they have to pee when I get out of bed no matter what time it is. I think they snuck back to the warm bed with dh though. It's a bit frosty.

I'm a night owl by association and habit these days. I used to naturally feel more awake at night or early morning but not all night.
Dd is the major night owl in our family. Her natural cycle is to sleep for a week or so at night and then shift to being awake all night. She sleeps for 10 hours once she falls asleep. We fought against it for a long time. Now we go with the flow and there are less tears and anger.

We homeschool. We can do that at night and sleep in.

The main issue I have is that other people do not have our schedule. Dh works during the day so sometimes it is difficult to spend time together. It is difficult when we have non-night owl guests because I have to be awake with them during the day too. It is difficult when we can't get together with other families or kids because they go to bed so early. I wish a night owl family lived close to us so our kids could play together all night. Midnight playdate anyone?

Dd should be waking up any time now.

[east carolina]

I hate seeing animals killed, but I'd definitely set up traps if I had an infestation of mice or rats. A mouse died in our bed under the covers in our countryhouse and we found out about a month after the fact. The cat dragged it in and it hid under the covers and there it perished. We were not happy campers when we found out.

Majikfearie, sorry about your gf.

honestly, i had a pet rat when I was 18, called ZacRat, and I loved him to bits. but that was different. honestly, who wants to get up in the morning (well, afternoon, but who's counting ;) ) to find their kitchen counter covered in rat sh!t? *shudder*
I need to keep my family healthy.

Oh, and orangefoot, I hear you about the crockpot woes, although I still want to get one to help with the evening meal.. We have a pressure cooker and we're really happy with it. It cooks things real fast.

[majikfaerie]

all I can say is the rats have now polished off the *second* box of poison; greedy f@#$ers!

[east carolina]

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm rat poison! :rotflmao

[majikfaerie]

yah, well, now it's 1.30am, and i can't sleep. and now i can't even blame it on the rats - I think they all started dying coz I haven't been hearing scuttling tonight.
ugh.

[orangefoot]

Oooh is a dead rat better than a live rat? Not sure on that one to be honest; it gives me the shivers thinking about it!

East Carolina - we are long time pressure cooker users so the slow cooker is a major departure from our normal habits. It will still be in use at least as much as usual I'm sure but tomorrow will be a crock pot dinner.... maybe.:D

[east carolina]

ugh. DS just fell asleep and its only 8:30. This usually means it's going to be a rough night. I've written before about him sleeping best from 11-9 or 12-10 or even going to bed later will guarantee a long solid sleep. But he is also a child with whom you cannot possibly enforce bedtimes or induce sleep. He just falls asleep when he's ready. he sleeps just like an adult would, except he still nurses to sleep and when he's waking up :D

Orangefoot, thanks for bringing up the crockpot from a nocturnal, late riser perspective. But DH has been working more and cooking is all up to me, so throwing the evening meal into the crockpot in the morning and then forgetting about it till it's time to eat is really enticing. Plus we eat alot of stews, soups and bean dishes, so all of those are well suited to crock pot cooking.

Majikfaerie, hopefully rats won't bother you anymore and hope you get a good sleep. How about some chamomile tee?

[majikfaerie]

Nooo! I think there might be a dead rat in the wall above my bed :( there was a swarm of ants there this morning, and we've never had an ant problem before. gah! will this never end!

[east carolina]

Oh no! Keeping fingers crossed that your rat woes will end soon!!!

[majikfaerie]

thanks :)
I still haven't managed to sleep though. perhaps tonight will be my night.

[LucyRev]

Hi :wave: I've always been a night owl. My oldest DD is one too for sure. We are all adjusting right now because she started Kindergarten in the fall and it starts at 8:15am! That would have been a deal breaker if it wasn't such a great school. It is really hard for me to even consider going to sleep before midnight. We'll probably homeschool in the future. Maybe in the very near future. :lol I love going grocery shopping and bike riding in the middle of the night. :D

[orangefoot]

Lucyrev We love that Brimful of Asha track. It came out when my boys were little and we took it on CD when we moved to Mexico. We used to play it really loud driving in our van down the highway between Cancun and Playa del Carmen and people used to ask us what it was because they had never hear anything like it!

[LucyRev]

Cool! That sounds awesome. :lol

I went to see them play about a year ago. I won free tickets! It was super fun. There wasn't a very big crowd but everybody there seemed to be enjoying themselves.

[orangefoot]

Majik - how's your dd tonight? I hope she is feeling better now. I saw your post on Parenting but by the time I read it you had fixed your problem!

The last time I saw delirium with fever was dh with tonsillitis and no antibiotics about 5 years ago. His hands were growing and dogs were eating them. He has no memory of any of it at all.

After posting last time we must have listened to Fatboy Slim's remix (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XniTypXFje4)of Brimful of Asha 10 times or more on youtube. Gotta love the internet for that!

[majikfaerie]

thanks orangefoot. dd is feeling better this morning. though she puked and was still feverish when she woke up.

[east carolina]

mj, fingers crossed for your dd, hope she feels better soon, that must have been scary!

[majikfaerie]

dd is much better this evening :) but as if that wasn't bad enough, tonight we had a pair of poisonous snakes in the kitchen!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/majikfaerie/3007123927/in/photostream/
drama galore at the majikfaerie household!

[LucyRev]

:scared:bigeyes

[east carolina]

This and jellyfish are the reason my DH is deathly afraid if going to Australia. How do you discourage snakes from being unwanted guests in your house?

[majikfaerie]

discourage them?
ask nicely :loveeyes:

:lol
I don't know. I think blocking up all possible entry points (which would be close to impossible in our place). But I'm doing the darndest best I can. I'm all for living fluffy in the woods, and i don't mind snakes, but there is a line, and poisonous snakes *in* the house is waaaay over that line.

[lena83]

I love having time to myself at night to contemplate the day and think.
I wish I could function on less sleep to do it more often.I especially love rainy nights.

[majikfaerie]

oh, just to make it clear; i did call in a professional snake catcher last night. no way i'm sleeping with my child in a house with a snake in it. he came in and gave me the all-clear to stay in the house.

[east carolina]

I saw the picture on flickr. You are one brave mama! The only poisonous snake in this country AFAIK is the viper and they don't tend to invade people's houses. You're much more likely to have a wasps or hornet's nest outside your window.

We have a place in the country with alot of apple trees. When they bloom in the spring, you can sit under them and you will hear very intense buzzing. Every once in a while the buzzing will get louder and you'll look up and see a gigantic hornet.

[majikfaerie]

ugh hornets and wasps freak me out way more than snakes!
I was stung by a hornet on my nipple while dd was nursing. it got horribly infected, was seriously the most painful thing in my life. and we basically weaned after that coz i couldn't feed any more :( thankfully we re-lactated :)

dp came home from israel yesterday, so what with my insomnia and his jetlag, we're realy not sleeping much.

[orangefoot]

Its 2am but I went to lie down after dinner at 8 and fell asleep til almost 11 so I won't be sleeping any time soon. Dh slept yesterday afternoon between work appointments. Dd2 fell asleep at about 11.30 despite walking about 2 miles today which is quite far on 22mo legs.

I would like dd2 to go to sleep earlier so I can get things done earlier but she just isn't programmed for it:shrug I would be a hypocrite to complain about it.......

I read an article in the newspaper last week about teens in school who are troubled being helped by ex-service men taking classes for one day a week. Good self discipline and the motivation skills of the army were cited as good things as was having the time to find out about the kid's lives. I quote here “Children might be from a home where Mum doesn’t get up in the morning or make breakfast. We build up the picture.”

Yikes! That's me! My boys get themselves up in the morning and take themselves to school. What is wrong with a teenager doing that? What are we teaching our kids if they can't even find food for themselves in the morning at age 15?

[majikfaerie]

:shrug I used to get up in the morning and get ready to go to school before anyone else got up. but that's nothing to do with being nocturnal, I just had to leave so freakin early for the school bus :dizzy:

[east carolina]

ugh hornets and wasps freak me out way more than snakes!
I was stung by a hornet on my nipple while dd was nursing. it got horribly infected, was seriously the most painful thing in my life. and we basically weaned after that coz i couldn't feed any more :( thankfully we re-lactated :)

Whoa! That's crazy! Poor you, mj and how wonderful that you managed to relactate. When DS was a little over a year he had a short lived habit of biting down very hard just as he would unlatch. It was short lived because he bit my nipple so hard that he bit through the flesh about 1/4 of the way through:scared I could bend it open completely, it was so freaky and painful! I had to nurse only on one side for a week, and it split again when I started to nurse him on that side again, it took a while to heal completely. I'm still nursing and I am super strict about nursing manners now.

I used to make my own breakfast if I got up in time (I hated getting up, was really grouchy in the morning), and my parents were around in the morning. I certainly don't think that having to make your own breakfast is a negative thing in and of itself. Actually getting up and going to school is comparative worse! LOL

[majikfaerie]

wow ec. maybe I should tell the other side of the story (that's a huge pun there)

dd bit part of my right nipple off the day before the hornet got me on the left one :yikes:
she was eating raw cauliflower and went in for a little sip of boobmilk while still chewing!

[east carolina]

We should be awarded a purple boob metal for our pains, eh? Sheesh!

[orangefoot]

Ouch ouch ouch. And I thought my youngest had bad manners!

[majikfaerie]

amen for purple boob metals :lol

[east carolina]

Just bumping since we fell into page 2.

It's 1 am here and I'm zonked out from looking at apartments and houses. We want to move and I've finally set the ball rolling. Saw a really cute place today that I could easily live in, but we have to sell our place first.

Happy nocturnaling!

[boringscreenname]

It's 4:55 a.m. here and I'm awake and at work until 7 a.m. I've been working the graveyard shift for nearly 2 years now and I love it, I'm a nightowl. I think I finally have DH convinced I'm a vampire. Now I know where to post when I get bored at 3 a.m.:joy:

[eepster]

I'm still up, DS is sprawled across my lap sleeping, but not quite deeply enough to move yet.

[LucyRev]

Yikes! That's me! My boys get themselves up in the morning and take themselves to school. What is wrong with a teenager doing that? What are we teaching our kids if they can't even find food for themselves in the morning at age 15?

When I was a teenager, my mom went to work super early so I always got myself ready. I never thought twice about it. But I was trusted to be "in charge" of myself and my sister since I was about 8 yrs old.

I hated getting up early and often failed my first period class because I just could NOT get there on time.

Right now we're nursing our cat back to health from liver disease. :( She has a feeding tube and I have to feed her every 3-4 hours, so that's giving me a good excuse to indulge my nocturnal-ness. I'm so tempted to stay up in the middle of the night after feedings, but I know I'll be a wreck the next day.

And YOUCH with all the boob stories!! You mamas deserve a medal for sure :thumb

[majikfaerie]

so sorry about your cat :hug hope she gets better

[east carolina]

Sending you and your kitty much healing vibes, LucyRev!

[majikfaerie]

anyone awake?

[east carolina]

yup, but it's only 10 pm here, DS is taking a bath and I think I will get into bed soon as we spent most of the day walking and I'm feeling sooooo tired! Plus, last night I went to bed really late and didn't sleep too well.

We went to see a house in the countryside that's for sale. The village is nice and the forests around it are beautiful, but the house has a really small yard and it's on the main road, so it's probably not for us.

I also have a headache. I hope sleep and lots of water will take care of it, I really don't want to wake up with it.

[majikfaerie]

:hug

[orangefoot]

I'm here at 0315 rewarding myself for 3 hours straight catching up on business letters, agreements and emails that needed sorting. I do a load then surf a bit then do a load then surf a bit otherwise I get bogged down and want to run away from it all.

Wishing all cats and humans a good night's sleep and that you wake feeling better than yesterday.

[poxybat]

anybody up?

[majikfaerie]

:wave

[poxybat]

hii!!!
whats up in majikfaerieland?
im getting ready for dinner...watching extra... stalking new posts... so bored...

[majikfaerie]

hi poxybat!
majikfaerie land is pretty exhausted. we did a MASSIVE shopping mission in town today, and I started bleeding, after not sleeping much... but at least the weather is warm and pleasant, and I'm home now with my feet up.

[poxybat]

hey you unschool...and go barefoot... awesome...

[majikfaerie]

hey you unschool...and go barefoot... awesome...

I even do both at the same time :lol

[poxybat]

i dont get the whole girls into shoes thing... i have three pairs of shoes... boots, backup boots and a pair of heels for when im feeling sassy ;)

i wish i knew more unschoolers, radical unschoolers even, in my area... i feel like an odd duck most of the time...

[majikfaerie]

mmmm odd duck
:lol

that's more shoes than I've got.

[maylanna]

Oh man.... i wish I would have found u guys last night when Iw as up bored. We have a whole family of owls over here....although sometimes I suspect my man is a possum. It is 9 am now and my DD is still sleeping!!

[poxybat]

i still havent gone to sleep...
im never sleeping again bwahahahahahaha!:D

[ScarletBegonias]

okay, so it *is* daylight now, here, but this is the first time in, well, awhile, that me & my kids are up before 1 in the afternoon. :eyesroll may i join? i promise i stay up until at least 3 or 4 every night!:p and i do wear shoes sometimes but i never, ever wear socks. and we usually hang out mostly nekkid at my house. i'm glad i'm not the only mom who serves breakfast at 2 or 3 in the afternoon and dinner at midnight!:eat:

[poxybat]

my kids have taken a vow of nakedness too...
i had to make a rule of keeping panties on. especially while eating.

i always get people asking 'youre eating!? now!?'
i think its lunch time here...

[robertandenith]

i need to join you guys... I am always awake til 4-5 am sometimes right when the alarm clocks goes off for my husband who is a middle school teacher. :lol

I wake up at 11 sometimes 1, it depends... I tried to 'fix' my schedule but the baby has a strange pattern so I end up sleeping the way he does :eyesroll