View Full Version : Some info from our new ped that made me feel better (and will hopefully make you feel better too!)
changingseasons 10-17-2008, 04:52 PM We went in for our 12mo WBV today with our new ped. I have to say I am falling madly in love with her. :love Anyway, I got a few answers to questions that really eased my mind, and I thought that there are probably a few of you worrying about the same things.
Falling in the growth charts - (Background: DD started at the 97th/95th %'s for weight/height and is now around the 10th/25th at 1 year). I asked at what point I need to be worrying (like I'm not already- ha ha); at what point does this become Failure To Thrive?
She said- What? She (DD) is perfectly healthy! She still has dimples! She is nowhere near FTT. I lived in Africa for a year and saw children who were actually FTT. She is definitely not FTT.
That made me feel SO much better, because I know some of you have gotten that ominous FTT diagnosis for a much smaller dive in the growth chart curves.
I asked about DD's continuing to gag when she eats, ped said- totally normal for this age. She's still learning how it all works.
I asked about food coming out undigested (looking very similar to when it went in), and again- totally normal for this age. She said that since there are no molars yet, I should expect to see food in the poo since DD doesn't have any way to break it down with her mouth.
I also asked about EGID (cause I'm too lazy to find that thread and update there... :o) and she said that it was a possibility, but that the only way to diagnose is to scope, and then basically the only way to treat is to avoid the triggering foods... and since we're already doing that (or trying), there's really no point to go for a diagnosis.
She also gave me a referral to a new allergist, and to a pediatric chiro who does cranio-sacral.
So anyway... she really helped ease my mind, and I hope some of that info will help ease some other minds too. I love that she looks at the whole picture- that DD is healthy, happy, and meeting milestones- and not just at the numbers on the growth charts.
Oh- she also gave me a prescription for some compounded Tylenol, since I think DD is working on some molars, and we might get to the point of medicating at some point in her life.... So I went to the compounding pharmacy and paid $32 for an 8oz. bottle of acetaminophen. :yikes: And I'm glad that I'm getting so good and asking questions and being insistent on answers... because after the pharmacist told me that he could make it without corn, but it still had some other stuff in it, I finally got the answer that it's sweetened with Stevia- and DD had a MAJOR reaction to Stevia. So I got him to make it without any sweeteners, after telling him multiple times that I knew it would taste nasty and that I was ok with that... and then I made him write down the ingredients for me. It has: acetaminophen, polyglycol, glycerin, and water. Hopefully all those are ok... let me know if you see anything that I need to be worried about.
Chinese Pistache 10-17-2008, 04:57 PM What a great doctor! Is she a regular MD? I would adore a doctor like that.
changingseasons 10-17-2008, 04:58 PM Yeah, she is- so she's totally covered by our insurance!!! :thumb She's also a licensed homeopath. And her nurse practitioner (also covered by our insurance) is an ND!! I really feel so lucky that I (finally) found a good ped.
WildIris 10-17-2008, 05:11 PM Wow, your doctor sounds awesome! I'm happy for you. :joy:
Check with the pharmacy as to what the glycerin is derived from. Glycerin is sometimes corn.
mtn.mama 10-17-2008, 05:18 PM Yippee!!!! You found a winner! I am SO HAPPY for you! She sounds awesome!
changingseasons 10-17-2008, 05:22 PM Wow, your doctor sounds awesome! I'm happy for you. :joy:
Check with the pharmacy as to what the glycerin is derived from. Glycerin is sometimes corn.
I was wondering about that. I asked him what it was derived from, he said he didn't know. :eyesroll I said- is it derived from a plant? He said maybe, but the stuff they get is all synthetic.
So should I be worried if it's synthetic??
waluso 10-17-2008, 05:23 PM I'm so happy for you! We have a great pediatrician also. She is an MD and a homeopath and I asked her if we should worry that DD has moved down the charts (from around 50% to 10%) and she said "not when she looks like she does." She goes by how she looks and acts rather than the numbers, which I love. Of course, I still worry ...
WildIris 10-17-2008, 05:40 PM I was wondering about that. I asked him what it was derived from, he said he didn't know. :eyesroll I said- is it derived from a plant? He said maybe, but the stuff they get is all synthetic.
So should I be worried if it's synthetic??
Honestly, I would insist that he find out what is made from. Or that he give you a contact number so you can call and ask. Because it sounds like he is just guessing about it, which doesn't do you any good if it's something that will affect your DD.
I would be a little suspicious about the polyglycol, too, for that matter.
changingseasons 10-17-2008, 06:01 PM Damn. So what do people do for pain/fever reducers?? He said that the acetaminophen wasn't stable enough just to mix with water- that those other ingredients were absolutely necessary.
We probably won't ever use it anyway... I just wanted to have it on hand for 'just in case'.
kjbrown92 10-17-2008, 06:07 PM Awesome!!!
Ooohhh, Carol is a homeopath too? We just got a rec for a homeopath to get a constitutional remedy for DD but she's not a provider on any insurance and we can't afford her out of pocket. I think I'll look into this....Thanks for the info. So glad to hear you are loving her. I've never heard anything but good.
changingseasons 10-17-2008, 06:10 PM Ooohhh, Carol is a homeopath too? We just got a rec for a homeopath to get a constitutional remedy for DD but she's not a provider on any insurance and we can't afford her out of pocket. I think I'll look into this....Thanks for the info. So glad to hear you are loving her. I've never heard anything but good.
Yeah! Isn't that awesome? You guys should totally go see her.
Joshuasmom16 10-17-2008, 07:41 PM oh man, wish I lived in Seattle... she sounds great.
mommydancer 10-17-2008, 11:15 PM Okay...so can you please give yourself credit for persevering and searching out this fab MD for your family? Because I have seen you publicly own your "failures"...I want to see you own successes too.
(P.S. - a cesearean is NEVER a failure.)
changingseasons 10-17-2008, 11:27 PM Ok.... I am awesome. Although I didn't actually find this ped, someone recommended her. But I guess if I hadn't continued my never-ending search for a decent ped, then I wouldn't have found her. So yes, I rock. :p
I really wish I could share her with all you guys. Not that she knows much about food allergies.... but at least she is open and honest about it, and takes what I say into consideration. And tries to learn about it herself!
crunchy_mama 10-18-2008, 05:56 AM that is so wonderful, so glad to hear you have a good day. That is just great, what a good dr.!
menomena 10-18-2008, 06:25 AM :joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy: :joy::joy::joy:
TanyaLopez 10-18-2008, 10:28 AM Ok.... I am awesome. Although I didn't actually find this ped, someone recommended her. But I guess if I hadn't continued my never-ending search for a decent ped, then I wouldn't have found her. So yes, I rock. :p
You do rock! We don't have to invent the wheel to figure out what's wrong with us and our kids, if we keep looking and asking and find the answers, that counts! It's enough! You really do rock!!
*honeybee* 10-18-2008, 01:58 PM Damn. So what do people do for pain/fever reducers?? He said that the acetaminophen wasn't stable enough just to mix with water- that those other ingredients were absolutely necessary.
We probably won't ever use it anyway... I just wanted to have it on hand for 'just in case'.
In general homeopaths wouldn't use pain or fever reducers. There are remedies to address both. I wonder why she would prescribe that without trying a remedy?
changingseasons 10-18-2008, 02:09 PM In general homeopaths wouldn't use pain or fever reducers. There are remedies to address both. I wonder why she would prescribe that without trying a remedy?
I specifically asked her for it, because although we've never had to medicate DD up to this point, there may be an instance where it would come in handy.
I think that she's working on her first molars right now, and the Boiron's Camillia and cold washcloths are just barely cutting it... we're dealing ok right now, but if her pain level goes up any higher we might just have to bust out the Tylenol.
So there's nothing that we need a remedy for yet... just seemed like a good thing to have on hand.
joybird 10-18-2008, 02:10 PM I was wondering this too. Was it the homeopath that prescribed the compound? In any case, I wouldn't give acetaminophen at all because it is notoriously hard on the gut and the liver. And as the pp said, there are many other remedies, homeopathic and others, that can be used for pain relief or fever.
changingseasons 10-18-2008, 02:15 PM I was wondering this too. Was it the homeopath that prescribed the compound? In any case, I wouldn't give acetaminophen at all because it is notoriously hard on the gut and the liver. And as the pp said, there are many other remedies, homeopathic and others, that can be used for pain relief or fever.
I think we cross posted, but I asked the ped to write me that prescription- she didn't suggest it.
So what do you use for molar-cutting teething pain??
ETA: It's really more for the pain... I'm not planning on medicating for just a regular old fever.
Molars were/are hell here and we HAD to do something. Homeopathy is worthless for this pain. Of course, we can do motrin which we did a few times but we also used adult strength orajel which probably has something unsafe for you too. :( I would NEVER ordinarily give a product like this but her ND suggested it for extreme pain and we just rub a tiny bit on each painful tooth. I wonder if you could see what the main ingredient is in orajel and see if you could get a pure form of it or something?
changingseasons 10-18-2008, 02:38 PM hmmm.. that's an idea. It's benzocaine, so I wonder if the compounding pharmacy can do that stuff straight up. I will keep it in mind.
Oh- and I checked the Orajel, and they all have "flavor" along with a bunch of other crap, so yeah- we probably can't use it.
Or maybe the tantrums, meltdowns, and biting are still left over from the formula experiment and they will go away soon. :fingersx:
joybird 10-18-2008, 02:39 PM Well I may have a different perspective on all this, because philosophically I am wary of our society's assumption that life should be pain-free. Growing hurts. Not fun but there it is. I understand the temptation to keep our kids from feeling any pain but I don't think it is healthy on any level to administer chemicals that make the pain disappear, yk?
But that doesn't mean I won't try gentle remedies to help alleviate some of the pain if possible or to help them cope with it more easliy. I've had success with homeopathic Chamomilla for teething. I also used frozen wet washcloths for dd to chew on. That helps a lot, because the cold numbs the area naturally. I have heard of people giving babies bones to chew on since they can help them cut the teeth through but I never tried it. To some extent though, I think teething is just a natural process that hurts some, and nature knows what she's doing by initiating babies into the ebb and flow of pain and pleasure. It's all part of life.
ETA: I hope I don't come across as some kind of sadist, because nothing could be further from the truth. FWIW, I don't take pain meds either. And as a mother, I don't feel that it is my job to make sure that dd feels no pain, but that I help her learn how to cope with it and to comfort her while she goes through it.
I totally hear what you're saying Joybird, but for those of us with EXTREME teethers, enough is enough. She feels plenty of pain, I assure you! On the nights when she wakes every 20 minutes due to pain she's getting some pain relief meds for sure. The homeopathics worked okay for us for the first 8 teeth but are completely and utterly useless for the molar pain. Chewing ice wrapped in a small cloth is her favorite thing in the world but not a lot of help during the night, yk? FWIW, I don't take pain meds either. The only time I have taken them in the last many years was after the horrendous tearing I had during childbirth.
Okay, sorry. Don't need to turn this into an argument and it's a bit off track from the OP but I felt like I needed to respond. :wink
Astromom 10-18-2008, 06:06 PM Very happy for you changingseasons -- you are awesome!
[Re. molar pain -- I'm scared to death of this upcoming milestone. DS only has 7 teeth (yes, he's almost 20 months with only 7 teeth :rolleyes) each of which have apparently been torture. We've gotten away w/o pain meds so far... but what are molars gonna do to this poor kid? Yikes.]
joybird 10-18-2008, 06:21 PM We all do things differently. I'm not criticizing anybody for their choices, or judging them at all. I pointed out that painkillers are not always all they're cracked up to be (Tylenol is illegal in some countries because it is known to cause liver damage). CS asked specifically what I would use in that instance and part of what I would use is my philosophy, in addition to the other things I mentioned. Oh, and clove oil, which I forgot about (diluted in olive oil - that part is important!). We have all spent sleepless nights with miserable teething babies and I am no exception. But I am quite certain for my family about some things I don't want to do, and giving babies painkillers for teething is one of them. We don't have to agree about all of our choices and that's okay . . . right?
joybird 10-18-2008, 06:41 PM She feels plenty of pain, I assure you!
And I am not really understanding how my post came across as a personal mission to make sure that all babies are experiencing sufficient pain! :(
WuWei 10-18-2008, 07:13 PM Unfortunately, as was posted in this forum recently,
"Use of the common painkiller paracetamol (tylenol) in the first year of life has been linked to an increased risk of asthma and other allergies, a new study has found.
The researchers analysed data from the International Study of Asthma and Allergies in Childhood for risk factors involved in asthma, hayfever and eczema in over 200,000 children in over 73 centres in 31 countries.
The study found that giving paracetamol to treat fever in children in the first year of life mean that child had a 46% greater risk of having asthma symptoms at age 6 to 7."
http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2008/09/19/2369275.htm
Note this was tylenol for treating fevers, which is/could be different than treating teething pain. But, with gut issues, I'd be hesitant to push the asthma envelope.
Teething babies are miserable, sometimes. We used chamomile, iced cloths, and distraction, and constant nursing. Being outside seems to help refocus on other things. Additionally, lavender essential oil on the gum tastes awful, but does take away some tooth pain, from reports of children and adults.
I don't give much relevance to the "weight charts", we didn't do WBV and ds (and our whole family) are on the short/small side. You are doing everything known to man and woman for your baby. :hug
Pat
Mammo2Sammo 10-18-2008, 07:26 PM my np gave us this awesome herbal sore throat spray by mediherb that worked wonders on tooth pain - it included clove and a few other things
will add more later.
changingseasons 10-18-2008, 07:38 PM my np gave us this awesome herbal sore throat spray by mediherb that worked wonders on tooth pain - it included clove and a few other things
will add more later.
I always thought that sprays were bad, because you don't want to numb their gag reflex.
I see your point of view joybird, and I understand where you're coming from. I'm also not one to jump to medication (otherwise man, we would have gone through some Tylenol this year!), but I do think there is a time and place for it. I agree that not all pain needs to be numbed, but when a baby (or adult) is to a point where she is just miserable and can't do anything except for focus on that pain (and make everyone else miserable too :p), I think it's time for relief. And we're nowhere near that point. I'm not sure we ever will be. DD's been a trooper for all of her teeth so far, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that she will get through the molars pretty well too.
But if we ever get to that point, maybe for an acute injury or something, I didn't want to have to be calling doctors and waiting for compounding pharmacies to open and stuff (since we don't have the option of just running to any store and buying an OTC product)... I want to have it here, on hand. That was really the main reason for getting the Tylenol now.
Just curious- what about if you sprain your ankle or break a bone? Would you use painkillers then (on yourself or your LO)? I really am just curious, not trying to start a debate or something. I'm just interesting in learning how other people do things.
WuWei 10-18-2008, 08:04 PM We'd use arnica montana 200c repeated a couple of times as needed. Plus ds is on constitutional remedy.
My friend's mom had a mastectomy, total surgical removal of one breast. She only used the arnica montana for immediate post-op pain relief.
Pat
changingseasons 10-18-2008, 08:42 PM We'd use arnica montana 200c repeated a couple of times as needed. Plus ds is on constitutional remedy.
My friend's mom had a mastectomy, total surgical removal of one breast. She only used the arnica montana for immediate post-op pain relief.
Pat
Wow- that is hardcore. Or maybe the arnica montana is just that good. I better check it out.
Is that dose appropriate for a 1yo?
TanyaLopez 10-18-2008, 09:13 PM Wow- that is hardcore. Or maybe the arnica montana is just that good. I better check it out.
Is that dose appropriate for a 1yo?
Oooh, Wuwei, I want to know too! I'm just starting to learn about homeopathy. 2 questions-I have a catalog in front of me with arnica montana 30x, how does that compare to 200c? And do you know of a kind that's not in a milk base? Or maybe that's just the pellets? TIA.
We all do things differently. I'm not criticizing anybody for their choices, or judging them at all. I pointed out that painkillers are not always all they're cracked up to be (Tylenol is illegal in some countries because it is known to cause liver damage). CS asked specifically what I would use in that instance and part of what I would use is my philosophy, in addition to the other things I mentioned. Oh, and clove oil, which I forgot about (diluted in olive oil - that part is important!). We have all spent sleepless nights with miserable teething babies and I am no exception. But I am quite certain for my family about some things I don't want to do, and giving babies painkillers for teething is one of them. We don't have to agree about all of our choices and that's okay . . . right?
Aaaahhhh. I posted hours ago but apparently hit preview instead of submit. D'oh! I don't have it in me to repost, other than to answer this last question..."yes" :wink Oh, and also to say that gum-omile oil (contains clove oil) worked quite well for us for the first 8 teeth. I, too, used high doses of arnica 200 after DD was born for about 2 months. I had to use the painkillers for a few weeks because I literally couldn't move but the ongoing arnica really helped I think. Okay, so I guess I couldn't keep from typing a full post. :eyesroll
Panserbjørne 10-18-2008, 09:24 PM Molars were/are hell here and we HAD to do something. Homeopathy is worthless for this pain.
well, I'm not sure what you tried in terms of homeopathy, but I do assure you it is not worthless for pain. My sister had a c-section and was up walking within a few hours and never took a drug post op. I had her on arnica 1M, and then moved to 200C and it was quite sufficient. She never even considered meds. It is intensely powerful stuff, but only if you have the right remedy. It is not a one size fits all approach and not every baby teethes the same.
I would never allow a child to suffer and I have used homeopathy successfully for each. However 3 kids required 3 different remedies. My first was a total belladona, my second a dulcamara and my third a chamomilla. I never had to stay up at night with a screaming child though. Like anything else you have to know how to use it and sometimes doing it yourself isn't the best way. I was lucky enough to have a fabulous homeopath.
Shelsi 10-18-2008, 09:26 PM 3 things:
Yay!!! I'm so happy that you found a great ped!
A quick question: The thing about the food coming out looking undigested...this has always concerned me because I don't remember it being that bad with my now 4 yr old. How fast does it come out? I know, totally TMI, but it really bothers me that dd can eat some beans and then 1.5 hours later the beans are in her diaper, kwim? We were just at the doc and I forgot to ask him about the undigested food and speed at which it exits. Just wondering if your ped said anything more regarding it? My dd will often poop 5-10 times a day, I don't feel like anything is absorbing :(
For fever or pain relief we use an infant's suppository called Fever All. You can google it but it's easy to find. I get mine at Walgreens. You just stick it up their butt and they are good to go. I've only used it once for a fever when dd was miserable and it seemed to help a lot. It's acetominophen.
Panserbjørne 10-18-2008, 09:28 PM Oooh, Wuwei, I want to know too! I'm just starting to learn about homeopathy. 2 questions-I have a catalog in front of me with arnica montana 30x, how does that compare to 200c? And do you know of a kind that's not in a milk base? Or maybe that's just the pellets? TIA.
tablets are a lactose base, pellets are a sucrose base with a bit of lactose (80/20) but some companies do straight sucrose. You have to go professional as far as I know to get straight sucrose.
200C is a higher potency than 30X, but isn't necessary for day to day things. For bumps and cruises in everyday life 30C is perfectly fine. That said I do prefer to have both on hand.
Panserbjørne 10-18-2008, 09:32 PM Just curious- what about if you sprain your ankle or break a bone? Would you use painkillers then (on yourself or your LO)? I really am just curious, not trying to start a debate or something. I'm just interesting in learning how other people do things.
well, if it's a compound fracture I can't say for certain! I have used homeopathy for sprains and breaks-but those are specific remedies. IN that case it pays to know what you are doing. Sprains are generally ruta and arnica, breaks (depending on the break) are usually hypericum, symphytum and arnica.
We have had some significant injuries and I've had friends and family members get through surgery, dental work and injuries with homeopathy. I did sprain my foot in january and it's alot better, but it took a few months to heal. The remedies worked like magic, but if I slacked off I could certainly tell!
WuWei 10-18-2008, 09:37 PM Wow- that is hardcore. Or maybe the arnica montana is just that good. I better check it out.
Is that dose appropriate for a 1yo?
The story is even more amazing as her husband is a medical physician. :lol
After the mastectomy, her surgeon was discharging her and asked 'What are they giving you for pain meds, nothing is recorded.' She held up the little vial of Boiron homeopathic pellets. And the doctors were squinting at the little writing on the container, completely unaware of what it was.
As a nurse, we never used homeopathy.
For a major injury, soft tissue damage, head trauma, broken bones with muscle injury, sprain, surgery, major bleeding, open wounds, I'd use Arnica Montana 200c or 1M if available. We only have 200c as our maximum at home. But, I'd call the homeopath first thing for a major trauma, barring life-threatening injury, of course.
For general aches and pains, bumps and bruises, I'd use Arnica Montana 30c repeated as needed.
Our homeopath is doing a presentation about "Homeopathy for emergencies like bleeding, fractures, spider and insect bites, bee stings, hives etc", next month. But, we have a "first aid kit" of homeopathics for these things.
They do work. At least from what I've observed with my own eyes. I don't understand it, but whatever.
Pat
WuWei 10-18-2008, 09:40 PM ETA: If indicated (ie. above 104+), for fevers we use homeopathy also, with significant benefits.
Pat
well, I'm not sure what you tried in terms of homeopathy, but I do assure you it is not worthless for pain. My sister had a c-section and was up walking within a few hours and never took a drug post op. I had her on arnica 1M, and then moved to 200C and it was quite sufficient. She never even considered meds. It is intensely powerful stuff, but only if you have the right remedy. It is not a one size fits all approach and not every baby teethes the same.
I would never allow a child to suffer and I have used homeopathy successfully for each. However 3 kids required 3 different remedies. My first was a total belladona, my second a dulcamara and my third a chamomilla. I never had to stay up at night with a screaming child though. Like anything else you have to know how to use it and sometimes doing it yourself isn't the best way. I was lucky enough to have a fabulous homeopath.
We don't have the pleasure of having a homeopath currently and since I can't give her anything in a lactose base, that left us with Boiron's Camilia and the gum-omile oil OTC. However, with the prior 8 teeth (the ones that came prior to learning about the dairy intollerance) we used various Hylands remedies too, although Camilia was always the most effective. I'm really glad that various remedies worked for your kiddos.
Panserbjørne 10-18-2008, 09:50 PM We don't have the pleasure of having a homeopath currently and since I can't give her anything in a lactose base, that left us with Boiron's Camilia and the gum-omile oil OTC. However, with the prior 8 teeth (the ones that came prior to learning about the dairy intollerance) we used various Hylands remedies too, although Camilia was always the most effective. I'm really glad that various remedies worked for your kiddos.
She cannot handle pellets, either? That is tough. Ds cant' do tablets or he gets mucusy green stool, but the pellets he handles just fine. As an infant I did get a liquid remedy for him too. I can see not having great success if you were that limited. Hopefully you weren't offended. I was just saying that it is very useful when used well. Clearly not everyone is able to do that for various reasons.
JacquelineR 10-18-2008, 10:25 PM I used arnica 30x post-op for my dental surgery (all 4 wisdom teeth removed) with great success. I had been on ibuprofen 400 mg every 4 hours and went down to none. (I was silly and didn't inform my ND that I was going in for surgery prior to it occurring so I didn't get it until 3 days post-op. Homeopathy for pain relief honestly never even occurred to me. :o I won't make that mistake again.)
changingseasons 10-18-2008, 10:49 PM Oh yeah- forgot about the lactose base in those things... so that won't work for us.
3 things:
Yay!!! I'm so happy that you found a great ped!
A quick question: The thing about the food coming out looking undigested...this has always concerned me because I don't remember it being that bad with my now 4 yr old. How fast does it come out? I know, totally TMI, but it really bothers me that dd can eat some beans and then 1.5 hours later the beans are in her diaper, kwim? We were just at the doc and I forgot to ask him about the undigested food and speed at which it exits. Just wondering if your ped said anything more regarding it? My dd will often poop 5-10 times a day, I don't feel like anything is absorbing :(
For fever or pain relief we use an infant's suppository called Fever All. You can google it but it's easy to find. I get mine at Walgreens. You just stick it up their butt and they are good to go. I've only used it once for a fever when dd was miserable and it seemed to help a lot. It's acetominophen.
That does seem concerning if the food is coming out that quickly. I know that for DD, when she's having a reaction she will poop multiple times a day. But when she's not reacting, she only poops every few days (but it still has the undigested food in it.
Someone suggested Fever All a while back, and I remember looking it up and seeing an ingredient that we couldn't have. Don't remember what it was... but I'm just going to guess it was corn.
JacquelineR 10-18-2008, 11:08 PM Oh duh.
I totally forgot to say
congrats on find a good ped!!! :balloons
TanyaLopez 10-18-2008, 11:24 PM She cannot handle pellets, either? That is tough. Ds cant' do tablets or he gets mucusy green stool, but the pellets he handles just fine. As an infant I did get a liquid remedy for him too. I can see not having great success if you were that limited. Hopefully you weren't offended. I was just saying that it is very useful when used well. Clearly not everyone is able to do that for various reasons.
So we just have to try it to see if the amt of milk in it is a problem? Bummer. We're getting better, and I don't think I'd see an immediate reaction (for my son--I think my daughter would be fine). For me, for gluten, I can't tell for weeks (it messes up my luteal phase if it's in the 1st half, otherwise it's too subtle anymore) and I am assuming casein would be the same deal (same subtlety, obviously my son would manifest it differently :wink). I don't suppose there are casein-free homeopathic remedies?
menomena 10-19-2008, 07:51 AM I don't suppose there are casein-free homeopathic remedies?
Seriously. My older daughter is seriously dairy (not just casein) sensitive. We can't do the tablets for that reason. I guess I assumed the pellets were lactose based too, but am I incorrect? I will jump for joy if I could stock up my homeopathic kit again and use it without worry of a (dairy) rxn!
I have never found something OTC that was not liquid that wasn't in a lactose base. Maybe I was looking in the wrong place? I am well aware that homeopaths can make liquid remedies and the homeopath I most recently talked to said all of their remedies are in a sucrose base which is fine for us. But, not OTC. I'd also be thrilled to find out there are OTC lactose-free remedies. I have a full Hyland's home-care kit that we can't use. At least I'll be able to use it when DD weans and hopefully she'll be okay with dairy by then too.
~Twighlight~ 10-19-2008, 09:59 AM all the pellets are a sucrose base. That is the difference between tablets and pellets. Even the blue tubes (Boiron) is sucrose.
~Twighlight~ 10-19-2008, 10:00 AM I don't suppose there are casein-free homeopathic remedies?
Boiron is casein free. You can find them almost anywhere.
~Twighlight~ 10-19-2008, 10:02 AM I have never found something OTC that was not liquid that wasn't in a lactose base. Maybe I was looking in the wrong place? I am well aware that homeopaths can make liquid remedies and the homeopath I most recently talked to said all of their remedies are in a sucrose base which is fine for us. But, not OTC. I'd also be thrilled to find out there are OTC lactose-free remedies. I have a full Hyland's home-care kit that we can't use. At least I'll be able to use it when DD weans and hopefully she'll be okay with dairy by then too.
You can order a home care kit from washington homeopathics that is all sucrose and then you have what you need on hand. It's the company the national center for homeopathy uses.
http://www.homeopathyworks.com/jshop/section.php?xSec=104
Panserbjørne 10-19-2008, 10:07 AM all the pellets are a sucrose base. That is the difference between tablets and pellets. Even the blue tubes (Boiron) is sucrose.
well, to clarify Boiron is *predominantly* sucrose based. They're remedies are 80/20. Washington homeopathics is pure sucrose though. I have three of their kits and have been very happy with them. They come in hard plastic cases that are very small (even the 100 remedy kit is smaller than a paperback book) and very easy to travel with. IIRC their kits even appeared on Oprah with Cindy Crawford. LOL. Famous kits.
joybird 10-19-2008, 10:18 AM Just to be clear, casein is the protein in milk and lactose is the sugar in milk. Homeopathic pellets have a very tiny amount of lactose - not casein, which is the allergenic component to dairy. Adults can be lactose intolerant, but babies are generally not. There is lactose aplenty in breastmilk. In addition, the amount of actual lactose in pellets is so very small. Consider that 20 pellets contain 1 gram of total sugar, equivalent to 1/5 of a sugar cube. And only 20% or less of that is actual lactose. Any homeopaths I've spoken with have never seen a dairy reaction to the pellets, the little ones. Not to say it hasn't ever happened, but it is pretty unlikely. If you're really worried about it, you can get the liquid from the homeopath, or straight sucrose.
Also, Humphrey's teething tablets are pure sucrose with no lactose, at least last time I looked. They're harder to find but I'm sure you could get them online.
joybird 10-19-2008, 10:30 AM Oh, and I got head-butted this morning (accidentally of course! My dd likes to wrestle in bed) and got a bloody, swollen nose and a resulting headache and swelling. First bloody nose I've ever had - yuck! One dose of arnica later and I have no pain.
changingseasons 10-19-2008, 11:03 AM well, to clarify Boiron is *predominantly* sucrose based. They're remedies are 80/20. Washington homeopathics is pure sucrose though. I have three of their kits and have been very happy with them. They come in hard plastic cases that are very small (even the 100 remedy kit is smaller than a paperback book) and very easy to travel with. IIRC their kits even appeared on Oprah with Cindy Crawford. LOL. Famous kits.
I was going to say... I just looked at some Boiron the other day and it said lactose. Except their liquid Camillia teething relief doesn't have any lactose, so that's what we've been using. I'm not sure it helps much, but DD loves them. :wink
I will have to check out the Washington homeopathics.
Yep-all of our Boiron blue tubes say lactose. I guess since DD is passing butter right now I could be brave enough to try the homeopathy again, since it is unlikely she would react at all. I was just being 100% pure for a very long time but now that we're doing butter again I can't follow that same logic anymore.
Panserbjørne 10-19-2008, 06:08 PM they do say lactose but that comes after sucrose because it is 80% sucrose. Wanna hear something funny? I have some remedies that are so old they don't say one way or the other. :lol Things have changed.....
I would try, because homeopathy is so invaluable to us.
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