Have Potty training question re: Potty Train in 3 days

rocketgirl96 · 11-05-2009, 12:24 AM

Has anyone read/used this book? I read it and am going to use it to potty train my 20 month old next weekend. I'm thoroughly okay with him wearing underpants during the day and cleaning up accidents but I'm worried about night time. He still pees A LOT during the night because he nurses plenty throughout the night. So, I don't know if I should use a cloth training pants during the night or use a disposable pull up (for more absorbancy), or just put him in underwear and get used to the idea of changing and cleaning up through the night. If anyone has read/used this book, what did you do for overnight? The book , btw, says that you should NEVER go back to using diapers even for overnight which is why I'm torn and don't know what to do. My gut tells me that he will not be dry overnight for a long time....but I also don't want to confuse him by using underwear during the day and using something that feels and looks like diapers at night.

thanks,
Christine

**To-Fu** · 11-05-2009, 12:31 AM

My friends did this method and rave about it, but I suppose they modified it. Their daughter is dry during the day and for naps, but she still wears pull-ups overnight. They're okay with that.

I like the idea of getting it all over with in three days, but some of the praise-heavy stuff irked me a bit, in addition to saying "ew, gross" whenever the child has an accident. I think, though, that those aspects could be modified.

I know she suggests not even starting until your child is 22 months, but that's another thing I think each parent has to judge for herself.

I'm looking forward to hearing from other AP/gentle mamas to see how/if this method worked for them! Thanks for posting about it.

Krisis · 11-05-2009, 04:07 AM

rocketgirl96 · 11-05-2009, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by To-Fu

I like the idea of getting it all over with in three days, but some of the praise-heavy stuff irked me a bit, in addition to saying "ew, gross" whenever the child has an accident. I think, though, that those aspects could be modified.

I know she suggests not even starting until your child is 22 months, but that's another thing I think each parent has to judge for herself.

Hmmm....we must be talking about different books. Are there more than one that does potty training in 3 days?
The one I'm talking about is written by Lois Kleint and she says many children are ready at 18 months or younger and most are ready by 24 months. Also, she never says to say Ew, gross when the child has a miss. She says to act slightly dissapointed but she says, and I quote "You need to be kind and not express anger or disgust. Tell him, "You need to keep your underwear dry. You are a big boy now. You can pee and poop in the potty. "

That's one reason I like this book. It's not punitive and very logical in a gentle way. There were some things I didn't agree with (as with all books - there's always something that I don't agree with - hahaha), such as she says to wean first, but I'm ignoring that part.

Just wanted to clarify which book/author I was talking about.

Peony · 11-05-2009, 12:18 PM

I'd do the pull up at night. It is a very rare child that can do day time and night time PLing at the same time. Night time dryness is entirely different then daytime dryness, it can not be taught and will only come when the child is developmentally ready. It could be years away from daytime dryness. You could change him everytime but that could lead to a cranky child and mama very quickly. I'd focus just on daytime and worry about night later.

I have one child who did day and night at the exact same time, and one who still has to wear a pullup at night a year after PLing, DD2 SOAKS her pull up, she is so not ready yet. She has never been confused about wearing night time diapers.

sunshadow · 11-05-2009, 01:41 PM

We tried this and my daughter at about 22 months and she just didn't do it. It was too early for her. But, a couple months later I just let her run around without diapers, mostly because she outgrew them all, and she got it down. She hasn't worn a diaper since then, which was in June and she was 24 months old. She had been dry at night for awhile, so no help there really. Though she did refused to wear anything at night even before she potty trained. She has had a few accidents at night. We just cleaned them up. Having a couple layers of sheets and waterproof covers a\on the bed is a lot of help. Last night she woke me up so I could help her go use the potty. I can't remember her last night time accident. I think having to get up and change her sheets got through to her.

blackbird2 · 11-06-2009, 10:37 AM

Hi,

Just thought I'd add a reference for how many times my freely nursed LO pees per night. He's almost 17 mths. When not teething/waking more frequently than "normal" it's twice a night. With frequent waking, 3 times. I sit on the edge of the bed and nurse him while he sits on the potty. He doesn't even open his eyes, but squirms when he's done. We've done EC with him, so there have been several steps between here and there ... anyway, you're probably looking at about 2 pees per night, whatever you decide to do.

fridgeart · 11-06-2009, 12:52 PM

We didn't use this method, but DD was an early PLer, around 20 mos (of her own accord, we just followed along). I did a lot of reading and there seemed to be a big distinction between daytime and nighttime dryness and expectations-that often nighttime dryness happens about a year after daytime dryness; the average kid's bladder doesn't really mature til 3.

E wore dipes for naps til she was 2, then when she was consistently waking up dry, we dropped the nap diaper. It was only another month or two after that that she dropped the nighttime diaper. I remember her understanding that she had to wake up dry in order to get rid of diapers completely. For another month or so, we would take her to the toilet around 11 or so and she'd pee. A lot of this has to do with my "laziness". I am unwilling to deal with a wet bed in the middle of the night-sleep is precious to me!

rocketgirl96 · 11-06-2009, 02:48 PM

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A lot of this has to do with my "laziness". I am unwilling to deal with a wet bed in the middle of the night-sleep is precious to me!

Yup! That's me! I'm lazy too that's why I posted this in the first place.

I get so little sleep now because of his frequent night wakings (a good night is 3 times) that I can't imagine having to get up to either potty him or clean the crib and sheets, etc.

sunshadow · 11-06-2009, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by fridgeart

For another month or so, we would take her to the toilet around 11 or so and she'd pee. A lot of this has to do with my "laziness". I am unwilling to deal with a wet bed in the middle of the night-sleep is precious to me!

We didn't have the option because my daughter would flip out if I ever took her or told her to use the potty! Luckily we only had to change her and the sheets I think 5 times total in the last 6 months and 3 of those were in one week. That wasn't a good week. ha.

AislinCarys · 11-06-2009, 03:11 PM

Regarding night dryness: we've done EC, DD is 20 months old, and is dry at night, regardless whether she sleeps through or wakes up. If she wakes up she will use the potty (and then breastfeed back to sleep). She has been dry most nights since she was 6 months old, the last night she wet was over 2 months ago (when she was sick).

chick · 11-06-2009, 03:13 PM

I didn't use this book and in fact have never read a potty learning book. BUT dd2 WAS PLed in about 3 days.

We waited until she was ready - telling us she was doing a wee then went straight into pants during the day, no going back.

She is almost 3 and has been dry during the day for 9 months. She's still in a nappy at night and will be for some time I think but daytime she's not had an accident for MONTHS.

From experience, the more you try to push it before they are ready, the longer it will take

eclipse · 11-06-2009, 03:44 PM

Out of my three kids, two of them night trained much, much later than day training. DS1 was out of daytime diapers at around 3 1/2, but still was soaking diapers at night for at least a year (to the point where a pullup wouldn't hold it and we needed to put a prefold inside the pullup to avoid leaks). DD day trained at around 20 months - quickly, with no accidents, and of her own volition, but was 3ish before she was reliably dry at night. DS2 was the only one who did both simultaneously - in fact, he was more reliable at night than during the day in the begining. I tried to keep diapering him at night and for naps because I didn't want a wet bed, but he started really balking at it, and I stopped. He's only ever had a couple of night time accidents, and it has always been when he was sick.

Anyhow, my advice is to focus on daytime first - night time will follow.