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10-19-2004, 03:11 PM
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10-19-2004, 03:25 PM
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WOW! I'm going to gather up some of mine to add!
Here's one from a Urological practice that get's the vast majority right. Only a very little bit of wrong information:
http://www.urologyweb.com/Production.../Posthitis.htm
Here is what I believe to be an exceptionally well written article by psychotherapist, Dr. Cat Sanders:
http://www.newtimes.org/issue/0112/cat.htm
What is normal. Includes information on phimosis, (tight foreskin) ballooning and photographs of what a normal infant and toddler foreskin looks like.:
http://www.cirp.org/library/normal/
Care of the Uncircumcised Penis: Guidelines for Parents (pamphlet). American Academy of Pediatrics Includes information on forced retraction, appropriate age for retraction, normal adhesions, function, smegma, and hygiene.:
http://www.cirp.org/library/normal/aap/
Care of the intact penis as published in Childbirth Educator Today. Much the same information as above.:
http://www.cirp.org/pages/parents/peron1/
This is NOCIRC’s pamphlet. Click at the bottom left to see the second page.:
http://www.nocirc.org/publish/4pam.pdf
Information on forced retraction-I especially love this: “Parents of an intact boy often know more about the structure, functions, and development and care of the normal penis than their son’s physician.” Because it is so true! Includes legal remedies should a care provider injure your son.:
http://www.nocirc.org/publish/6pam.pdf
Frank
Last edited by Frankly Speaking; 04-08-2005 at 03:09 PM..
Reason: Adding a link
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10-29-2004, 02:49 PM
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Callumsmom, one of your links under sexual side effects needs correcting - it's
http://research.cirp.org (no www)
I also like www.notjustskin.org
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10-29-2004, 08:59 PM
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someone I know posted this one:
http://josh.bakehorn.net/circ.html
of course they went on to bash the creator and say how totally biased and stupid it was  IMO its a great site though.
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10-30-2004, 09:51 AM
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Thanks, I hadn't noticed that:-)
Tara
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03-31-2005, 03:21 AM
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Radio Doctor Dr. Dean Edell is pretty well known and very much against circumcision. Trustworthy guy, well known, and an intactivist? Yay!
http://www.healthcentral.com/special...sion_intro.cfm
My own page, http://oknocirc.blogspot.com has a simple FAQ, A Chat About Circumcision.
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06-24-2005, 03:59 AM
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Proud to be an Intactivist Wolf
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My site
Here's the anti-circ website I made in honor of our infant son. He is intact, and I'm thankful for that every single time I look at his trusting little face.
http://www.huluhae.com/antonin&anticirc.html
Please tell me if any of the information is wrong on the site. You can search Huluhae if you'd like to see pics of our little guy.
~Nay
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06-24-2005, 08:29 AM
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Here is something I have a real problem with
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According to Doctors Opposing Circumcision 90% of foreskins are fully retractable by the time the child is three years old.
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I’m not saying that it is not accurate, there have been a half dozen studies addressing this issue but I suspect it may be and it leads to unrealistic expectations and unnecessary worry. I prefer the study that says that the foreskin is not retractile on up to 70% of boys until puberty. That way, parents are less likely to take their son to a doctor who does not know how to accurately diagnose pathological phimosis when there is no problem at all and parents are far less likely to accept the false diagnosis. If parents believe that 90% are retractile at 3 years old, they are likely to begin worrying by 2 ˝ when it appears that the foreskin is not retracting at all and would certainly be concerned by 5 or 6 years old when there should be no concern at all. By using the study that says 70% are not retractile until puberty, there is no unnecessary worry or medical intervention until it is actually a questionable situation.
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This, along with the production of the natural lubrication called smegma, is what allows the foreskin to glide effortlessly over the penis.
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Actually, smegma has little lubricating properties. The lubricating properties come from the foreskin and shaft skin moving easily up and down the penile shaft. An intact man moves within his own skin and the skin stays in one place at the vaginal sphincter. This preserves the woman’s natural lubrication inside her vagina instead of pulling it out on each stroke. In this way, the woman needs very, very little natural lubrication for a comfortable sexual experience.
In the penile cancer section, you may want to include that the vast majority of penile cancers are caused by the human papillomavirus and that there is now a test for the virus and a vaccination that will work even after infection. You may also want to mention that penile cancers are simply skin cancers and are treated in the doctor’s office the same as any other skin cancer is treated, by simple excision of the cancerous growth.
In the UTI section, the most glaring flaw of Wiswell’s study is that he used all premature infants for his intact group and all full term infants for his circumcised group. Premies are at a significantly higher risk of UTIs than full term babies so it is apparent that Wiswell constructed his study to achieve the desired outcome.
In the Christianity section, there are many mentions of circumcision in The New Testament. If I remember correctly, it is mentioned 23 times such as when Christ spoke at The Feast of Tabernacles, at the Council of Jerusalem and in the Gospel of Thomas when Christ said “If circumcision were profitable, the father would get them from the mother already circumcised.”
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It is not dirty, it is actually beneficial in that it lubricates the penis, helping the foreskin to slide easily on the shaft.
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Actually, smegma has little lubricating properties. In an infant, it’s benefit is to act as an occlusive barrier between the separated portions of the foreskin and glans. In an adult, it serves little purpose for a man any more than it serves any purpose for women who also have smegma.
I don’t mean to pick your site apart but these are a few areas that could use some correction. It is a well written page and contains much accurate information. Heaven knows there is much misinformation out there now and the way to end the madness is to have our information correct and beyond question. People tend to take this information from place to place on the internet and some misinformation can be caught at those sites which will tend to cast doubt on the whole argument. Just from my writings here at MDC, I see them all over the internet so I know how it can spread. Hopefully, your site will also become a resource for many people.
Frank
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06-25-2005, 12:06 AM
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Proud to be an Intactivist Wolf
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reply to Frank
Hi Frank,
Thanks for letting me know how I could improve my site. I've taken it down for now and put up a message saying it is under reconstruction. I hope to soon have it back up and would be very happy if you could give it a quick scan when I get it done.
~Nay
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06-26-2005, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Frankly Speaking
Here is something I have a real problem with
I’m not saying that it is not accurate, there have been a half dozen studies addressing this issue but I suspect it may be and it leads to unrealistic expectations and unnecessary worry. I prefer the study that says that the foreskin is not retractile on up to 70% of boys until puberty. That way, parents are less likely to take their son to a doctor who does not know how to accurately diagnose pathological phimosis when there is no problem at all and parents are far less likely to accept the false diagnosis. If parents believe that 90% are retractile at 3 years old, they are likely to begin worrying by 2 ˝ when it appears that the foreskin is not retracting at all and would certainly be concerned by 5 or 6 years old when there should be no concern at all. By using the study that says 70% are not retractile until puberty, there is no unnecessary worry or medical intervention until it is actually a questionable situation.
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My oldest is 4 and not retractible. He pees, doesn't complain - I don't worry. I'm so glad I didn't try to fix what WASN'T broke!
Also editing to add a site:
http://www.catholicsagainstcircumcision.org/
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11-05-2005, 10:44 PM
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Proud to be an Intactivist Wolf
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my site again
I've redone and renamed my site.
http://www.huluhae.com/against-the-cut.html
I'm open to any opinions. (As long as they're positive  )
~Nay
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11-09-2005, 08:37 AM
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Great trifold intactivist pamphlets
Here's a wonderful collection of pamphlets that can be printed out double-sided and folded.
http://www.coloradonocirc.org/pamphlets.php
Pamphlets and Handouts
Should your baby boy be circumcised?
How Male Circumcision May Be Affecting Your Love Life
The Case Against Circumcision
Protect Your Uncircumcised Son
Doctors Opposing Circumcision pamphlet
Doctors Opposing Circumcision: Conscientious Objection
Circumcision and Childbirth Professionals
Care of the Intact Penis
NOCIRC Pamphlets #1-10 for Parents and Professionals
Christian Parents and the Circumcision Issue
Catholic Teachings on Circumcision
Circumcision: A Source of Jewish Pain
Brit Shalom: A Peaceful Alternative
Brit Without Milah
Circumcision and Islam
Circumcision and Mormonism
Medicaid and Circumcision
Position Statements of Medical Societies
The Vulnerability of Men
What if I don't WANT to look like daddy?
What Is Lost to Circumcision
Why Should I Restore My Foreskin?
Men's Health: Separated at Birth
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03-22-2006, 06:47 PM
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Proud INTACTALACTAVIST, Book Luvn', Rootin' Tootin', SAHM Unofficial Birthday Cheer Spreader
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A lot of questions get asked about UTI and foreskin. So I thought I would put up this link about it. UTI
I dont like the way the page is worded it does have statistics on UTI with circed vs. intact. It talks about both sides equally which I do like but it bothers me that they even want to consider circ. for infants.
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rooming in with mother may favour colonisation with non-pathogenic bacteria4,27, and breast feeding has been associated with lower rates of UTI than bottle feeding in one brief report28.
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Anyone else got more stats on this?
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03-23-2006, 09:42 PM
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I didn't notice this site in the lists above- I posted a snippet from it below
http://www.caringforkids.cps.ca/babies/Circumcision.htm
Circumcision Information for Parents
Canadian Paediatric Society
I can't imagine reading the risks and taking a chance with circumcision. Of course, it is not totally accurate, but it is the only concise summary of the risks of circumcision verses the natural 'problems' that might occur if left intact. Unfortunatly the statistics do not come close to those of countries where intactness is the norm and the increase of 'problems' are probably due to lack of knowledge of proper foreskin care (i.e. LEAVE IT ALONE), misdiagnosis, and cultural bias.
The comparison of necessary RE-circumcisions is particularly staggering to me. JUST really clarifies for me that even with these inflated stats of intact 'problems' you might as well leave your son intact then have your son circed and then re-circed.
Baybee... I wonder if your contact at DOC could suggest some amendments??
Jessica
Risks and benefits of circumcision
Problems from the surgery are usually minor. Although serious complications are rare, they do occur. Newborn circumcision has been associated with surgical mistakes, such as having too much skin removed.
Of every 1,000 boys who are circumcised:
20 to 30 will have a surgical complication, such as too much bleeding or infection in the area.
2 to 3 will have a more serious complication that needs more treatment. Examples include having too much skin removed or more serious bleeding.
2 will be admitted to hospital for a urinary tract infection (UTI) before they are one year old.
About 10 babies may need to have the circumcision done again because of a poor result.
In rare cases, pain relief methods and medicines can cause side effects and complications. You should talk to your baby’s doctor about the possible risks.
Of every 1,000 boys who are not circumcised:
7 will be admitted to hospital for a UTI before they are one year old.
10 will have a circumcision later in life for medical reasons, such as a condition called phimosis. Phimosis is when the opening of the foreskin is scarred and narrow because of infections in the area that keep coming back. Older children who are circumcised may need a general anesthetic, and may have more complications than newborns.
Circumcision slightly lowers the risk of developing cancer of the penis in later life. However, this form of cancer is very rare. One of every one million men who are circumcised will develop cancer of the penis each year. By comparison, 3 of every one million men who are not circumcised will develop penile cancer each year.
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05-22-2006, 06:48 PM
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Here's a little article from the Holistic Pediatric Association
http://www.hpakids.org/holistic-heal...ision-Decision
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08-13-2006, 10:03 AM
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More Online Resources
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10-14-2006, 12:10 AM
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