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I was thinking we should make a list and have it as a sticky so we could make it easier to avoid these seed companies if you so desire.
To give a little background about Monsanto if you don't already know. They develop and sell GMO (genetically modified organisms) seeds. Seeds that have live animals cells in them. These GMO plants threaten to spread by cross-pollinating and therefore contaminating our open pollinated seed just like that of rice seed that several countries won't buy from the US anymore. Monsanto scientists -- makers of dioxin, Agent Orange, genetically modified crops, round-up ready soybeans, and terminator seeds.

Here's the list so far. Please add to it. This will be the master list so when someone opens it they are listed all at the top. This way we can keep a discussion going if we want to.
  • Audubon Workshop
  • Breck's Bulbs
  • Burpee
  • Cook's Garden
  • Dege Garden Center
  • E & R Seed Co
  • Earl May Seed
  • Flower of the Month Club
  • Gardens Alive
  • Garden Trends
  • Germania Seed Co
  • HPS
  • Johnny's Seeds
  • Jungs
  • Lindenberg Seeds
  • McClure and Zimmerman Quality Bulb Brokers
  • Mountain Valley Seed
  • Nichol’s
  • Osborne
  • Park Seed
  • Park Bulbs
  • Park's Countryside Garden
  • R.H. Shumway
  • Rocky Mountain Seed Co
  • Roots and Rhizomes
  • Rupp
  • Seeds for the World
  • Seymour's Selected Seeds
  • Snow
  • Spring Hill Nurseries
  • Stokes
  • T&T Seeds
  • The Vermont Bean Seed Company
  • Tomato Growers Supply
  • Totally Tomato
  • Vermont Bean Seed Co.
  • Wayside Gardens
  • Willhite Seed Co.


Also look at
http://us.seminis.com/products/dealer.asp?territory=119 (Western US)
http://us.seminis.com/products/dealer.asp?territory=118 (Eastern US)
http://us.seminis.com/products/dealer.asp?territory=117 (Canada)

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Added one more...
  • Territorial Seeds
  • Totally Tomato
  • Vermont Bean Seed Co.
  • Burpee
  • Cook's Garden
  • Johnny's Seeds
  • Jungs
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Excellent idea. Thanks for posting this. When I think of some more I will add them too.

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Are all Jungs seeds gmo? I was looking at the catalog (filled w/ lots of naughty invasive plants! ) but they did have some currants and elderberries and I was considering getting one or two plants for jelly purposes...just wondering!
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No, not nec. but either this co. is owned by Monsanto or buys seed from them. So, depending on how you feel about supporting a co. that is associated with them is totally up to you.

You could probably find both plants locally.

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Are all Jungs seeds gmo? I was looking at the catalog (filled w/ lots of naughty invasive plants! ) but they did have some currants and elderberries and I was considering getting one or two plants for jelly purposes...just wondering!
And FWIW, I do still buy from Jungs, because they are my local nursery. And I have their elderberries and currants, and I've been happy with both.
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And FWIW, I do still buy from Jungs, because they are my local nursery. And I have their elderberries and currants, and I've been happy with both.
I would just be wary about buying hybrid seeds from them, they probably have fine rootstock.
I just wanted to make a thread so that people could make informed decisions without having to ask about every single co. This way we can have a master list we can add to.

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great idea, fc! I HATE the whole naty gmo seed thing...I live in farm country and the nasty little seed signs sticking out of the fields bug the bejeezus out of me!
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I would just be wary about buying hybrid seeds from them, they probably have fine rootstock.
I just wanted to make a thread so that people could make informed decisions without having to ask about every single co. This way we can have a master list we can add to.
True, true...and sorry to derail your thread, Cathy. I think it is a great idea!

Also, just found this...according to Seminis, the following are also customers:
  • Earl May Seed
    Gardens Alive
    Lindenberg Seeds
    Mountain Valley Seed
    Park Seed
    T&T Seeds
    Tomato Growers Supply
    Willhite Seed Co.
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Oooh, I had a feeling about Garden's Alive.

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this is a great idea, thanks so much.

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Oooh, I had a feeling about Garden's Alive.
Well crap. I was intrigued by some of their pest stuff.

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Could someone link me to an article or something that would explain what this is all about? I have heard about Monsanto's evilness in other ways but I haven't heard about the organisms thing.
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I put some more info at the top about Monsanto, but I don't have any links yet. Let me research that. Anyone else have any Monsanto articles?

Here is one: http://www.organicconsumers.org/mons...paganda723.cfm

This one is a little older, but still has good info. This one has specific info on the organisms part. http://www.monsantosucks.com/Newsnviews/bio-serf.htm

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Can we make this a sticky? What does everyone else think?

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I vote for making it a sticky.

I haven't searched the links yet because my kids are trying to destroy the DVD player, but are Heirloom Acre Seeds or Henry Fields affiliated with Monsanto? *sigh*

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Another vote for sticky! maybe we could combine this with the thread about which companies don't have ties, so we would know which ones to avoid and which ones to use?
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That's a good idea.

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Could you post sources for your information?

This comes straight from Territorial's website:
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Safe Seed Pledge
Agriculture and seeds provide the basis upon which our lives depend. We must protect this foundation as a safe and genetically stable source for future generations. For the benefit of all farmers, gardeners and consumers who want an alternative, we pledge that we do not knowingly buy or sell genetically engineered seeds or plants. The mechanical transfer of genetic material outside of natural reproductive methods and between genera, families or kingdoms, poses great biological risks as well as economic, political, and cultural threats. We feel that genetically engineered varieties have been insufficiently tested prior to public release. More research and testing is necessary to further assess the potential risks of genetically engineered seeds. Further, we wish to support agricultural progress that leads to healthier soils, genetically diverse agricultural ecosystems and ultimately people and communities.
I would be interested to know why you feel this isn't accurate.
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Monsanto Company to Acquire Seminis, Inc., a Leading Vegetable and Fruit Seed Company.

Johnny’s, Territorial, Fedco, Nichol’s, Rupp, Osborne, Snow, and Stokes are among the dozens of commercial and garden seed catalogs that carry the more than 3,500 varieties that comprise Seminis’ offerings.
Here's the whole article. http://www.seedalliance.org/index.ph...nto&print=true

It's not to say that Territorial sells GMO seeds, but they do buy seeds from Seminis which is owned by Monsanto. So, if you want to avoid giving money to Monsanto then you should avoid Territorial.

My point being is showing how bad Monsanto is and in doing so an incentive not to buy from companies that put money in thier pockets.

I read in the latest Countryside mag an article about studies that have been done on livestock as well as raccoons that raid corn feilds. They either will flat out not eat the GMO corn or will always choose conventional corn over GMO corn if they have a choice. Pretty interesting. It's like they can taste how different and how bad it is.

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I read in the latest Countryside mag an article about studies that have been done on livestock as well as raccoons that raid corn feilds. They either will flat out not eat the GMO corn or will always choose conventional corn over GMO corn if they have a choice. Pretty interesting. It's like they can taste how different and how bad it is.
Wow, that is interesting. I remember reading too (In Omnivore's Dilemma, I think) about what percentage of the nitrogen in our bodies came from corn due to the use of corn based products in food science type applications, since corn turns up in sooooooooooooo much of our prepackaged food supply. It was pretty amazing. I wonder what percentage of that corn was GM.
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Cathy ~ The book "Seeds of Deception" also tells that story. Cows will tromp through the GMO fields to get to the good organic stuff. I think it's a little sad when cows are smarter than humans.

And (I think it's from the same book) I remember the little nugget that the invention of high fructose corn syrup in the 60's I think? (Or maybe 40's, I forget) Was because the midwestern farmers had a glut of corn on the market and the government intervened and made up a way to use the farmers' corn so the farmers wouldn't go under. Rather than letting regular economic supply and demand run its course, the gov't intervened. And we know how well that usually works out. :

I believe about 70% of corn or more in the US is genetically modified. But don't quote me on that.

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Thanks for letting me know about that book. Would love to read it. I think it was the 60's when fructose corn syrup came about. There was a little article about it in Organic Gardening magazine.

Yeah, that is what I've been hearing about corn. It's so easy to cross-pollinate and be contaminated with the GMO corn. That's what I forgot to say in my last post is that it would so easy for Monsanto to contaminate our seed supply because they have there hands into so many companies that the general public buy from. It's scary!

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Another good seed monopoly article.
http://www.countrysidemag.com/issues...erri_Cook.html

One reason to save your open pollinated seed every year.

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But where shall I get my seeds then? (I, of course, want to avoid underwriting Mons*nto in any way!)
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http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=824672

Here you go.

And they are stickied. Yeah!

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It's so easy to cross-pollinate and be contaminated with the GMO corn. That's what I forgot to say in my last post is that it would so easy for Monsanto to contaminate our seed supply because they have there hands into so many companies that the general public buy from. It's scary!
Yea, and then sue us seed savers for having a polluted seed with their gene in it.
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crap, i had no idea!

thanks, i just started planning this years garden...
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Well then. Guess I'm scrapping my order to Territorial. And they come across as so nicey-nice:
I'm considering letting them know, too, that they lost my business due to their affiliation with Monsatano. Yup, think I just might do that....
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Maybe we all should. Maybe we would get some of the companies we liked back onto our good list.

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