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FarmerCathy 01-08-2008 08:28 PM

Here are safe from Monsanto seed companies. Please reply with what I have missed and I will add them to this list.

Abundant Life Seeds
Amishland Seeds
Annapolis Valley Heritage Seed Company canada
Baker Creek Seed Co.
Berlin Seeds - they don't have a website. Atleast I didn't find one.
Botanical Interests
Bountiful Gardens
Diane's Flower Seeds (she has veggies now, too)
Fedco Seed Co. - phasing out seminis seeds.

Fisher's Seeds - 406-388-6052 They don't have a website, but they will send you a catalog if you give them your address
          PO Box 236, Belgrade, MT 59714
Heirloom Acres Seeds -I've heard from several people thier seed germination is poor and so is thier customer service.
Heirlooms Evermore Seeds
Heirloom Seeds
High Mowing Seeds
Horizon Herbs
Irish-Eyes
Kitchen Garden Seeds
Lake Valley Seeds
Livingston Seeds
Local Harvest
Mountain Rose Herbs

Native Seeds  for the Arid Southwest
Natural Gardening Company
New Hope Seed Company
Organica Seed
Peaceful Valley Farm Supply
Pinetree
Renee's Garden
Richters Herbs
Sand Hill Preservation Center
Seed Saver's Exchange
Seeds of Change
Southern Exposure
Sow True
Territorial Seed Company *Tom Johns, the pres. of Territorial posted in the comments on my blog about Seminis being owned by Monsanto, and said customer service will provide a list of seeds they buy from Seminis, so you can avoid them. He also said that Seminis is providing less varieties every year (typical of Monsanto) and they are finding suitable replacements. So, don't count them out completely.* (info from AdinaL)
Tiny Seeds
Tomato Fest - ask for bubble pack when ordering from them for seed viability
Trees of Antiquity
Underwood Garden Seeds
Uprising Seeds
Victory Seeds
Wildseed Farms
Wood Prairie Farm

 

 

http://www.manytracks.com/Garden/IndieSeedCompanies.htm


cristeen 01-08-2008 09:20 PM

This is taken right off of the other thread, removing what was questioned.

ET remove the links to avoid confusion.

FarmerCathy 01-08-2008 10:11 PM

[QUOTE=cristeen;10225574]This is taken right off of the other thread, removing what was questioned.


Thanks Cristeen. I forgot to add links to the ones above and search that other thread. I deleted a couple from the list you posted as shown above that are tied to Monsanto.

FarmerCathy 01-09-2008 02:39 AM

Maybe we can post here what we like about the above mentioned companies.
My favorites are Heirloom Seeds, Seed Savers, groworganic.com (because they are local), and Baker Creek (aka rareseeds.com).

Heirloom Seeds has really good organic butternut squash seeds. Very hardy. Good all around company that I've never had problems with.

Baker Creek has lots of variety and always something new each year and fun. If I can ever get the cassabanana seeds to produce I'd be happy. I've tried thier nipple fruit too which is fun. I haven't tried putting it in a flower arrangement yet though. I always call them to make sure they have what I want because they will send a refund with your order and what they didn't have at the time.

Seed Savers is always got lots to choose from as well.

Groworganic.com (Peaceful Valley Farm Supply) sells seeds from renee's garden, seeds of change and several others. They know me by name when I walk in and have good organic potting soil and soiless seed starting mix. I just love them. I could spend all day there.

Manonash 01-09-2008 05:00 PM

I thought totallytomato was linked? Not?

FarmerCathy 01-09-2008 05:09 PM

It is. I put it on the other list. It's still in Cristeen's post, but I deleted it off the top master list.

Owen'nZoe 01-09-2008 05:19 PM

I'm confused on Fedco. I see you've removed it, but I thought we came to the conclusion that they've phased out their Seminis products?

FarmerCathy 01-09-2008 10:28 PM

Oh, I didn't know that. That is great! Putting it back on. Thanks!

Owen'nZoe 01-10-2008 12:29 AM

Thanks, Cathy, and a HUGE thank you for putting the list together for us!

FarmerCathy 01-10-2008 04:18 AM

No problem! I'm glad I could get this all in one place. It'll be nice because we can just keep adding to the list.

Manonash 01-10-2008 01:47 PM

So, totallytomato is ok? Wasn't sure about that one.

FarmerCathy 01-11-2008 12:48 AM

As far as I know they aren't. I left them off the list at the top. That's the master list.

stretchmark 01-13-2008 06:00 PM

I am not sure if you are just posting things that avoid Monsanto in the seeds themselves but I found this today http://www.democracyinaction.org/dia...aign_KEY=12700 and it is showing that the GE sugar beet is going to be on shelves in 2008 for sale and that candy companies are urging this not to happen.
Since M&M Mars owns Seeds of Change, I think we need to keep our eyes open to see if they end up linked in the future.

Manonash 01-13-2008 06:35 PM

The Fedco link went to the peaceful valley site.

-Hmmm never had that happen. Wouldn't post my reply till I put in 50 characters or more. So, here they are.

FarmerCathy 01-14-2008 02:33 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by stretchmark View Post
I am not sure if you are just posting things that avoid Monsanto in the seeds themselves but I found this today http://www.democracyinaction.org/dia...aign_KEY=12700 and it is showing that the GE sugar beet is going to be on shelves in 2008 for sale and that candy companies are urging this not to happen.
Since M&M Mars owns Seeds of Change, I think we need to keep our eyes open to see if they end up linked in the future.
Thanks for the info. That is amazing that just about everything will have GE in it! That is disappointing and outraging!
I thought Mars only owned the food side not the seed side. Is that correct? Anyone know?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Manonash View Post
The Fedco link went to the peaceful valley site.

-Hmmm never had that happen. Wouldn't post my reply till I put in 50 characters or more. So, here they are.
Sorry about that. Thanks for letting me know. I corrected it.

nattybo 01-17-2008 02:26 PM

I didn't see these sites on the master list:


Diane's Flower Seeds (she has veggies now, too).
www.dianeseeds.com/Index.html

and

Wood Prairie Farm
www.woodprairie.com/

This is a potato farm run by a family who was organic when organic was uncool

FarmerCathy 01-17-2008 10:44 PM

Thanks Nattybo!

MilkTrance 01-17-2008 10:50 PM

Wonderful -- thank you for these links. I LOATHE Monsanto!

jessaries 01-21-2008 05:29 AM

Where does ferry-morse go? I know they are sold at all of the 'big' stores, but I wonder for some who may not always order online or by catalogue.
Also, I noticed a brand at Target called 'sean conway' and it was sucking me in, until I noted that their display fit oh so nicely into the burpee display and I just assumed burpee owns them? Maybe not? probably!
sorry, I didn't want to bother both threads!

FarmerCathy 01-21-2008 07:38 PM

That's a good question. Does anyone know? I'll see if I can do a little research on that.

Owen'nZoe 01-23-2008 08:21 PM

No idea on the companies you mentioned, jessaries.

Cathy - I have a bit more info on Fedco to complicate matters. I just looked in their catalog, and the info there conflicts with what is on their website. The catalog says that they do still carry some Seminis varieties, but are in the process of completely phasing them out. Anything from Seminis is apparently marked with a little 6 next to the description, so you know whether the seeds you are buying are from Seminis or not. I did not have a chance to look super carefully, but as I browsed the catalog, I didn't find any Seminis varieties at all, so I'm guessing there aren't too many of them.

I don't know where it belongs, given that info...

FarmerCathy 01-23-2008 09:34 PM

I did some research on ferry-morse. I'm not sure whether they are associated with Monsanto or not, but they are part of the seed monopoly. From articles I looked up they are put on a list high up there with monopolized seed companies. That's all I could find. http://www.non-gm-farmers.com/news_print.asp?ID=2549
I'll see if I can find some more out on them.

I think that with the effort Fedco is doing with eliminating thier semini seeds that I think we can put them on our good list. If you think about it, it would be hard to totally eliminate those seeds without having a replacement right away. So, that is probably why it has taken them so long to phase them out. What do you all think.

tammyswanson 01-23-2008 10:01 PM

What about Territorial seed company? They claim on their catalog that they don't sell GM seeds. I think Horizonherbs.com is also not on the Monsanto bandwagon either.

FarmerCathy 01-24-2008 12:04 AM

Territorial buy from Seminis which is owned by Monsanto. I put horizon herbs on the good list.

Owen'nZoe 01-24-2008 12:37 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by FarmerCathy View Post
I think that with the effort Fedco is doing with eliminating thier semini seeds that I think we can put them on our good list. If you think about it, it would be hard to totally eliminate those seeds without having a replacement right away. So, that is probably why it has taken them so long to phase them out. What do you all think.
I'm in total agreement! Just wanted to throw that out there.

RadUnschooler 01-25-2008 01:52 AM

How about Bentley co. and the Page co.? I got these seeds from our dollar store.

jessaries 01-25-2008 09:59 AM

I googled the company that owns ferry-morse and found this http://www.saveseeds.org/biography/ferry/index.html. It says they are the largest 'breeder produced' company. Not sure what that means, they are French. Ferry-morse is a subsidary of one of the 'big guys' it seems (even if we haven't heard of Limagrain), they have readily avalible organic seeds at big box stores for under $2.
I really don't know if this makes them totally bad, it's not Monsanto, but it's a rival, even if it is down the list a bit. Why so confusing?
edit, "In 1997, Limagrain became the majority partner in the creation of Biogemma, which focused on the development of genetically modified organisms (GMOs). Despite the European restrictions on the use of GMOs, the creation of Biogemma was seen as a necessity in order to guarantee Limagrain's competitiveness in the future. The company also entered the development of plants for pharmaceutical uses, creating Meristem in 1997. One of that subsidiary's first patents, however, was revealed to be a means of creating a so-called "terminator" gene sequence that prevented seeds from germinating after harvest."
grr, throw 'em in the banned pile!


Quote:
Originally Posted by FarmerCathy View Post
I did some research on ferry-morse. I'm not sure whether they are associated with Monsanto or not, but they are part of the seed monopoly. From articles I looked up they are put on a list high up there with monopolized seed companies. That's all I could find. http://www.non-gm-farmers.com/news_print.asp?ID=2549
I'll see if I can find some more out on them.

I think that with the effort Fedco is doing with eliminating thier semini seeds that I think we can put them on our good list. If you think about it, it would be hard to totally eliminate those seeds without having a replacement right away. So, that is probably why it has taken them so long to phase them out. What do you all think.

RadUnschooler 01-25-2008 12:51 PM

so that's why my pepper seeds that i took out of a pepper are not sprouting?

FarmerCathy 01-25-2008 05:36 PM

So, Monsanto is the only company really out in the open about GM seeds. Other companies are doing it too, but not as publicly. Wow! That's really scary! Sneaky almost.

jessaries 01-25-2008 07:17 PM

It's like the X-files or something.
Quote:
Originally Posted by FarmerCathy View Post
So, Monsanto is the only company really out in the open about GM seeds. Other companies are doing it too, but not as publicly. Wow! That's really scary! Sneaky almost.


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