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PeachBaby 05-21-2010 01:54 AM

Is there a tribe for Japan? Anyone in or near Osaka?

PeachBaby 06-01-2010 03:24 AM

I am also wanting to homeschool. Not too many homeschoolers in Japan, so I know it will be a challenge.

neko 06-06-2010 12:21 AM

I have a hard time finding any Japan action on this forum... for most of my Japan info I start out at being-a-broad.com

oceane 06-16-2010 01:10 PM

PeachBaby, I will do an internship in Kobe this fall (no kids yet, but trying). I will pm you with questions on expat life. I hope that's ok.

Rhannie 06-19-2010 05:21 AM

Peach Baby, there used to be one (or a thread on Japan), but it seems to have died out. I'm in Yokohama, but have a friend who Homeschools her 2 kids. If you have any questions, I can ask her.

PeachBaby 06-22-2010 07:53 AM

Thanks for the info Neko! I'll check that site out.

Oceane, sure thing, I'll share what I know! ...although I've only been here a couple of years, not too long, and with a lo, I don't get to go out as much, but you're welcome to ask away!

Rhannie, is Yokohama where the Chinatown is? If so, I've been there once, passing by! If your friend doesn't mind at all, that'd sure be great! I do have questions!

Orro 09-13-2010 09:51 AM

Hey!


would love to hear from any of you if you are out there...!!

OkiMom 09-21-2010 08:51 AM

I live in Okinawa so not part of mainland..
As for homeschooling its easy for me since we have SOFA status we just have to report to my DH's command when the girls become school age.

Orro 10-04-2010 11:26 AM

Sounds like you have found the right spot to settle !
i am currently pregnant but was always nagging my husband about trying Okinawa out

how old are your girls?
my son is 2 years and 7 months old
he still doesn't mingle well with other kids (i guess that the age element working there...)
how do you manage homeschooling ?
would love to hear more about living in Okinawa and the mothering experiences you have managed to collect staying there

hello to all the Japanese tribal girls here

I am located in Tama-ku Ikuta its in the Kawasaki district
would love to meet up with like minded


cheers


Orro

SweetTea 10-16-2010 06:04 AM

Hi everyone -- nice to find a Japan tribe here. I wasn't expecting it, quite honestly!

I recently moved with my husband to the Oita/Fukuoka area in Kyushu, Japan. We've recently decided to start TTC our first in early 2011, instead of waiting two years to be back in the States. I'm on the hunt for information about pregnancy and natural childbirth in Japan.

It doesn't seem like I live near any of you ladies, unfortunately -- we're a plane-ride from Tokyo, I believe. But, on the off-chance any of you could help us....Did any of you give birth in Japan? I'm looking for information in English about childbirth and pre-postnatal care in Japan, as well as for English-speaking midwives in or near Oita. Any luck that one or more of you might be able to help us?

seattlemamma 10-18-2010 11:19 AM

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There is a homeschooling organization run by Americans over there called OCHEA Okinawan Christian Home Educators. If you aren't interested in joining the association because you don't share their beliefs, you can still partcipate in their functions and outings. There are also all kinds of community centers and youth centers on the the different bases that school-aged kids can join. There are classes, open rec rooms, field trips, etc for all different ages. Any branch can participate in any other branch's programs. Check out www.mccsokinawa.com and www.kadenaforcesupport.com both have youth/teen programs listed in the side bars, as well as tons of other info about events on the bases for everyone.
http://sites.google.com/site/ocheaokinawa/Home

http://www.okinawahai.com/
Someone sent me these links. My question for people living on Okinawa is:Should we choose off base or on base housing? My DH is an O1E ARMY. He is already over there we are trying to jump over medical paper work. Don't really trust him to choose housing on his own.

DebraStorm 12-11-2010 06:59 PM

We are in Yokosuka! :)


mmmmochi 12-15-2010 11:24 PM

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Orro 12-27-2010 05:31 AM

Hey!

 

it would indeed be nice to make this thread more active so ill try something if i may

My name is Orro im a soon to be 34 years old mama of 2 charming home birthed KyoREPlaySkateboard04HL.gif who is a boy 2 years and 9 months old and Ellagoodvibes.gif who was born 2 months ago here in Ikuta (tama-ku)

 

 

my husband is a native Japanese carrot.gifand is working from home (thank goddess!!)

 

i am about to finish writing my first children book (about dragons!!! muwhhahahsleepytime.gif)

 

i find my self having loads of complications deciding what is right and wrong for family and self and i guess that have to do with the fact my japanese speaking ability is rather flat.

ever since we are having a second child i do feel like i am losing grasp of the mother i used to be ,you may say its my first crisis as a mother.

ive had a good integration with my primitive instincts and intuition 

i tend to believe this might have to do with me being so aware of time flowing so quickly lately...

maybe it all has to do with the weather ?cold.gif

 

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mmmmochi 12-28-2010 11:25 PM

 Hello Orro!

 

Thats great, Ill keep replying, so perhaps some other Japan mothers will get involved! I am in central Tokyo, but know Tama. Do you like living there? I bet you have more space than we have in Tokyo!

 

Its good that your husband works from home. Mine is Japanese also, but is a manager in a huge Japanese company, so we dont see much of him.

 

Im the same age as you, but my children are a little older. I have a daughter, who is 8, and a son who just turned four. My dd was prem, so a highly medicalised birth and section. I was bullied into a section for ds too, but it was a far better experience. Well done you for getting your homebirths!

 

Congratulations on finishing your book! You will have to let us know how it goes with publishing.

 

You are not liking the cooler weather?! I am so happy now its colder! I can sleep at night, and get cosy and barely feel cold, just comfortable really. I dread late spring and summer. It is far too hot for me.

 

Are you going to try the Japanese school system or homeschool. We did not have a great time with the system here, and now have withdrawnn from it totally, and homeschool with  no outside influences. My husband wants the boy to try yochien here, but I am really not keen.

 

If it makes any difference, it took a while for us to settle into our new family make up when ds arrived. I would say it took at least 8 to 9 months for me to get used to having two childrenn and get the balance feeling natural. Now he is 4, and it is easy. Ild just like one more, but  no way with homeschooling that I could manage three.

 

Congratulations on the new baby. It will get easier, promise

 

best wishes

 

Mochi


Orro 12-30-2010 05:22 AM

Mochi!

 

How splendid of you to be homeschooling in JAPAN!

i am giving a lot of thought to the subject lately ,we went to see several places but they all made me even more "ambitious" about the idea.

the thing is my husband and frankly myself too finding our son to be slightly isolated in here.

its most probably due to the fact i turned quite unsocial during the final stages of my pregnancy and so didnt really manage finding the energy to clean the house for the guests and so ...

in any case Kyo isnt very social himself and i do wonder if that have to do with him being shay or perhaps uninterested ...(?)kid.gif

or perhaps it because he isnt speaking much (trilingual!) these thoughts bothers me from time to time and yet on a daily base is he lonely? do i do him harm not sending him to a fixed routine sort of system,,,irked.gif am i a good mother to my child...and so on 

 

i would love to hear about your homeschooling experience and in case there are other "J mothers" who do the same how about sharing some of your experience yourselves...teapot2.GIF

 

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Orro 12-30-2010 05:50 AM

oh and by the way Mochi! 

 

I suppose we do  have (MORE) space then you guys have in Tokyo

 

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although i'm afraid this place is much colder the yours...guitar.gif


PeachBaby 12-30-2010 08:07 AM

Hi and welcome to everyone!

 

Nice to see this thread picking up pace! 

 

About giving birth in Japan, these are a few things I know of:  that typically no epidural is given.  Also, lots of places don't allow the father into the delivery room, but it depends, some will, so you have to ask/research.  It is common to have the mother & baby stay longer after the delivery, I think anywhere from like 5-10 days instead of 3 or so.  Many places also separate the mother and the baby for the first several days after birth, to allow the mother to rest.  But if you plan to breastfeed, that is probably not the best way, so better to search for a place that will allow you to stay together with your newborn. 

 

One couple's story about giving birth in Japan:

http://www.globalcompassion.com/japan-birth.htm

 

Uh oh, looks like DS is waking up so I have to cut this short.


mmmmochi 01-01-2011 02:37 PM




 

Hello Orro! Thank you for the heroines welcome! It certainly is not easy to homeschool here. If anyone wants to hear the trials and tribulations of getting a child out of the system, you are welcome to ask me. I just dont want to bore you all with it!

 

I too worry about my dd being isolated and not socialising here. However, the damage caused to her by the bullying, emotionally and physically meant that school did not give her any positive interaction anyway.

 

We found a few activities with a very international bunch of children, and she now is not so isolated.

 

4 year old ds is meant to be going to yochien. He does not want to go. I too worry that he only plays with his sister, that he might be lonely. Life in Japan is MORE lonely for my children than in our short time back in my home country. In Tokyo we have childrens castle and the big play centre in Shibuya which is free to use. So we can go and play if we want to.

 

It is not impossible to find activities for children. A good international school might also be more positive, however they are very expensive.

 

You are  not doing Kyo any harm at all, Orro. He is only little, he only really needs you and his family in my opinion. Making friends here is not easy. I would invite you to come out on one of our field trips if you were close enough.

 


mmmmochi 01-01-2011 02:43 PM



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Hello Orro! Thank you for the heroines welcome! It certainly is not easy to homeschool here. If anyone wants to hear the trials and tribulations of getting a child out of the system, you are welcome to ask me. I just dont want to bore you all with it!

 

I too worry about my dd being isolated and not socialising here. However, the damage caused to her by the bullying, emotionally and physically meant that school did not give her any positive interaction anyway.

 

We found a few activities with a very international bunch of children, and she now is not so isolated.

 

4 year old ds is meant to be going to yochien. He does not want to go. I too worry that he only plays with his sister, that he might be lonely. Life in Japan is MORE lonely for my children than in our short time back in my home country. In Tokyo we have childrens castle and the big play centre in Shibuya which is free to use. So we can go and play if we want to.

 

It is not impossible to find activities for children. A good international school might also be more positive, however they are very expensive.

 

You are  not doing Kyo any harm at all, Orro. He is only little, he only really needs you and his family in my opinion. Making friends here is not easy. I would invite you to come out on one of our field trips if you were close enough.

 



 


mmmmochi 01-05-2011 07:32 PM

Hello everybody!

 

How is the start to the new year going?

 

I personally dislike osechi new years food, so I take the umeshu and avoid the rest. Still, the craziness is over for another year thank goodness!

 

Did anyone brave the crowds and go shopping? Any bargins in the lucky bags? We went to an outlet mall near Mount Fuji. It was crazily busy!

 

best wishes

 

mochi


Orro 01-08-2011 04:17 AM

eyesroll.gif brrr i would never dare thinking of doing anything like this  in such times!

new years vacation was meant as "family gathering time" which literally means :"STAY AT HOME theres nothing to look for out there unless you are planing a long distance swim in streets loaded with piles of people!!" lurk.gif


mmmmochi 01-09-2011 11:39 PM

Without the Gap and OshKosh new years sales I have no idea how I would clothe the kids! I was willing to swim through the people to get clothes to last for a while for the children.

 

I think if we were cooped up all the time in this tiny apartment all new years and Christmas, people would get cabin fever....!

 

Orro you are a brave woman to stay in!

 


wagamama 01-18-2011 08:07 PM

I live in Yokohama (Aoba-ku) -- would love to see this thread get going!  I know a few foreign women in my area (we have a book club), but no one with toddlers. 

I have a 5-year-old and a 3-year-old. Both go to a wonderful local preschool, very outdoor and nature focused. I think homeschooling is great too, but my DH would never, ever, ever let me do it. He has a cousin who became a hikkikomori and DH thinks the reason is that his cousin's mother let him stay home from school a lot. I disagree -- I think the reason is that he is borderline Aspergers -- but anyway!


mmmmochi 01-19-2011 03:06 PM

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Orro 01-20-2011 05:20 AM

I find the whole Hikekomori issue quite fascinating ,dont you?

i tend to believe there are certain causes to such behavior and honestly speaking i see the parents as partly responsible as well.

for instance who with a sane mind would like to leave his warm electronic nest (made of wires and loads of computer games)

and move out to the Otsukaresama world where theres only work work sake sake work and some more sake after work?

isnt it the most natural thing to happen in a society where the peak of wealth have already started to collapse...

no tradition no traces of glorious past and so to say not much of a bright future?!

 

what do you guys think?

 


mmmmochi 01-20-2011 02:57 PM

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wagamama 01-20-2011 07:23 PM

Just to clarify, I definitely don't think that homeschooling has anything to do with someone becoming a hikkikomori! Mmmmochimama, I admire you for homeschooling. I think it must be great -- but hard in the face of societal opposition -- and I am sure that that is stronger here in Japan, where homeschooling is so uncommon and  misunderstood.

How old are your kids? I have heard the the school system is a downhill thing in Japan -- starts out great in yoichien, shogakko is OK, but junior high and high school are terrible. I know that I am fortunate now to have my kids in a great preschool, but I am worried about the future.  :(


mmmmochi 01-20-2011 10:17 PM

I have an 8 year old and a 4 year old, and one on the way, due in late September.

 

What you said sounds about right, yoichien (kindergarten) is actually alright, but shogakko (elementary school) is where it starts to go wrong. Second grade was hell for my daughter. It was  not tolerable in any way, shape or form. I have been called a bad mother for removing her (by PTA mothers from the school), told I am wierd, my daughter is strange, that she has to learn how to `gaman` to tolerate to stand the bullying. We have been called dirty foreigners, generally very very bad. Everyone from PTA members, to grandparents, to a woman in the supermarket seems to want to tell me how awful I am to homeschool.

 

However, I had a daughter who was being physically and emotionally bullied by a large group. Who had started to withdraw and stop talking (yes my eight year old went silent). She was learning nothing apart from `people can be cruel`. She was being kept in at breaks because the teachers refused to deal with the bullies. I had other kids coming up to me and saying `your daughter must  not use kanji to write her name, she is not Japanese`. It was just beyond tolerable.

 

It just gets worse and worse from what I have heard from other mothers. More restrictive, more rote learning, more bullying by teachers and students....

 

We are working on a move - we should be gone by Spring. It cannot come quickly enough for my family.

 

If a young newly married non Japanese woman in Japan asked me for advice, it would be to make her life out of Japan. It is far too hard here. I know some people have made it work, but more who have not.

 

We are enrolled with calvert school, and managed to fill in the right papers to remove our daughter from the system. For what its worth she is doing amazingly well academically and is fine socially. Far far happier.

 

Oh, if anyone is interested, Sanno hospital has been very nice for prenatal care but only have had one visit so far, but for anyone who wants a vbac in Japan, there is no way they would allow it. If I end up staying here, they will jsut deliver by section before I get a chance to go into labour.

 


mom61508 01-21-2011 08:24 AM

Hi all! I will be in Hiroshima in April sometime. DH is going to working there Jan-end of Sept. I'm due in March with our 2nd girl.

 

Anyone in Hiroshima? I really wondering what the eating is gong to be like. 



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