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Old 10-13-2004, 11:51 PM - Thread Starter
 
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My 2 1/2 year old and my husband have asthma. We were living in a house with black mold - long story, but it was bad. So now they have asthma... *sigh*

Anyway, DH went on Advair (an inhaled steroid) and had bad side effects - headaches, emotional issues, etc. So we took a big step and went to a vegan, mostly raw foods diet. Within two weeks he felt fantastic, no more problems and he's quit his medicine!! YAY!

We've cut dairy from ds diet and it's helping a LOT. I've also got him on several vitamins and supplements that seem to be helping. I found that rescue remedy helps when he is having trouble breathing.

Anyway, I'd love to discuss natural helps with mamas who have BTDT. We're very interested in more info and natural ways to treat asthma (especially mold and dust sensitive asthma).
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btdt with the mold, it stinks! Totally made my asthma worse for YEARS.

Best thing you can do of course is avoid triggers.

I've found that breathe easy tea really helps.

I use vitamin C (anti-allergy effect) and nettle tea (both for the anti-allergy and for its fertility properties).

I also practice square breathing and try to get outside to *fresh* cool air when I feel an attack coming on.


Do they have random attacks? Only triggered? Do you have carpets? (getting a bagless, hepa filtered vacuum can help, but getting rid of the carpets is even better)
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Natural ways to help asthmatics?

no carpeting in the house, it traps dust and molds.

curtains and blankets and such that can be washed, and are fairly frequently, in hot water to kill the dust mites.

no stuffed animals in the beds, or rooms probably. When I was a kid, Mom and Dad shaved our stuffed animals, partly to cut down on the dust issue, partly because pulling the fuzz leads to hairballs.

tightly woven covers for pillows and mattresses to keep dust mites away from the person.

a good air cleaning furnace and air conditioning system with filters frequently changed. We've got ours set so the fan is always moving the air whether it's being actively heated or cooled. Seems to have helped.

get rid of all scented personal care products. go with unscented. This is an allergy issue as far as I can tell. Allergy to a common inexpensive perfume base, orris root, is common and easily avoided by losing the perfumed products. Same goes for room fresheners and all that rot.

During pollen seasons: spring and fall, keep windows closed to keep the pollens out.

The allergic person does not mow the lawn.
FWIW the allergic person shouldn't be the one running the vacuum either.:

No pets with fur or feathers. This one sucks.

Don't put carpeting on concrete floors, mold trap that....but you've already BTDT

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One thing that I've noticed works - not to prevent asthma, but to quell an attack if you feel one starting is - 2T instant coffee in 1/4 cup of hot water. It tastes like CRAP! But caffeine is a broncodilator (sp?) - works similar to theophylline, and much easier to get down than an inhaled med during an attack. It even works on our 3yo, who's been hospitalised 15 times for asthma problems .. but you do NOT wanna see him once the caffeine kicks in
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I've done the caffeine trick too, but with pop rather than coffee.

Given the rapid heartbeat that follows, it's not fun, but it's good to know that there's an alternative to jump start the easing of the breathing if needed.

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I've used black tea for that, which has theophyllines in it. Generally though, those don't work as well for me.
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I'm very late in coming back to this thread but I wanted to say thank you all!

I stuck around and read everything and the advice has really helped!

DS seem to be triggered by certain things, or if he gets really emotional. i found viatmin c every day has helped reduce them. As well as moving into our own place w/ no carpet (thanks - I wouldn't have thought of that!), and trying to avoid triggers. Oh! We found Rescue Remedy helps him too.

Thank you!
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Hi I have found help with asthma and allergies through use of essential oils. My sister has successfully gone off her inhaler. One of my best selling kits is the breathe easy kit. It has a message oil blend ( for feet and chest), and also a personal inhaler of the same blend of oils. It is a wonder for colds also. My website is not totally done, but you can e-mail me from there if you have more questions. Also going to a good homeopath and herbalist could help.

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We use via viente a phytonectar drink...... if you are interested PM or email me and I will try to give more info and also how to order it.

www.viaviente.com
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I saw a DO for my asthma (medical doctor who also knows about natural stuff, etc.). He's an asthma specialist and is really well known in the field. He recommends doing breathing exercises to strengthen the diaphragm as THE most important thing you can do to help prevent and stop asthma (you lie down and breathe in with your diaphragm, holding it and then blowing out long and hard.) along with Magnesium supplements which make your muscles more relaxed (most people who die of asthma die because their lung muscles are working so hard they give up) Coenzyme Q10, and a daily preventative. I take Singulair but I used to take Intal, which has a 30-year history of safety for everyone. I stopped because I couldn't remember to inhale it several times a day whereas I can remember one pill per day. As a child, though, Intal changed my life completely.

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There's some exciting new info about raw organic milk healing asthma. I talked with the owner of www.organicpastures.com and I am convinced Email him for more info if you are interested, he's got lots of great stuff he can send your way.
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Sometimes asthma can be triggered by dehydration (my youngest brother has a bit of latent asthma), so staying well hydrated is important.

Also, have your children ener received supressive medical treatment, such as cortisone for exczema, antibiotics for ear infections or having warts burned off? If so, this can often cause asthma to develop or worsen by driving the supressed disease deeper where it manifests as another form (asthma), often going back and clearing these events and genetic predispositions with homeopathic remedies is helpful (see http://www.heilkunst.com for details).

Good advice here from others as well!
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Life long asthmatic here who finally has it under control...I still have an albuterol inhaler "just in case" but I can't remember the last time I used it (probably a month or two ago...)

Acupuncture seems to have been the biggest factor for me. (I'm getting acupuncture for my fertility issues -- side effect: my asthma is 90% gone!)

That's in addition to many of the things other people noted. (Interesting about the strong diaphragm -- I'd never heard that before, but I was a singer as a kid, and am now a professional bellydancer/ teacher and have a very strong diaphragm and have always known that it was a very good thing. Because when you have to work to breathe, you'd better have a strong diaphragm!) I am reducing my milk consumption (again, it's a fertility issue, but might be having an effect on my asthma).

Another natural remedy that I've always used is to have someone stroke my back lightly during (and after) an attack. The muscles in my back tense up something fierce during an attack, and it really helps to have someone rub them. A bath can also be helpful, after the attack is over.

BTW, emotional connections with asthma are true for me, but it is a very tricky subject to talk to an asthmatic about it when you're not asthmatic yourself. We get defensive easily. Have the asthmatic person try to pay attention for their own triggers.

For me, one of my triggers is hearing other people talking about asthma, or seeing another person having an asthma attack.
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Hi! My mom suffered severe asthma attacks throughout my childhood, unaware that numerous triggers were in her every day environment. Finally she found a dr. who told her to practice Haptha Yoga. I was about 9 when that happened. My mom found a place that taught it and has practiced it since (some 20+ years) with varying degrees of regularity which has been reflected in how much she could control the attacks, but she never went back to the hospital and rarely had to use her inhaler. The thing about the yoga, she says, is that you have to find people who practice it ”right,” according to her. Basically, she says the trick is that the breathing is the main focus of the excercises, and that they are performed slowly, not like an aerobics routine.

Hope this helps some!

Yoga is good for so much more anyway!
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Agh, my reply didn't post. Trying again...

I am glad I found this thread! My 2 year, 10 month old son has asthma that is triggered by colds. He's been on oral steroids several times this winter because he's gotten so bad. I'm mostly thinking about prevention.

We have hardwood floors with only a few rugs. I vacuum with a miele with a HEPA filter. We run an air filter in his room. His mattress is encased and he (and I, since I sleep with him most of the time) sleep on synthetic pillows and with no wool or down blankets. (Wool gives me asthma - we're quite a pair.)

I've tried the coffee trick on myself, but am hesitant to try it on a toddler.
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Two things.

First off, research the Buteyko breathing technique, its sworn world-wide to solve the problem and from my limited personal experiences with what they promote it should work great. You need several days of training (a few hours each day) to start learning the basics then it takes a while to re-teach your body how to breath correctly. The basic gist of it is to breath less, that hyperventilating is what causes the problems and I've experienced this myself.

As for suppliments, try to take something "natural" rather than e.g. singulair. Most drugs will become obsolete if you can tackle the breathing issue.

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My 13-month-old just had her first asthma attack after a viral infection. She's been prescribed two steroidal medications and albuteral. There is no history of asthma in my family so I really appreciate the information in this thread. I really hate having her on steroids, especially at such a young age. As she's too young for yoga breathing exercises, etc. , I'm wondering if there any more suggestions out there for wee little ones?
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