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#61 of 122 Old 08-14-2005, 01:14 AM
 
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After reading this thread I have taken the wipes of my dd's that I made and didn't like because they didn't seem large enough for messy poo's and taken them to the bathroom for me. I love them and just made myself some more that are 6x6 flannel 2ply. They are wonderful AND I am using up a stash of fabric I bought as remenets on sale. So I am saving and using stuff I already had. I am off to make up dd some more wipes since she doesn't have many left now....LOL

Hugs and thanks for getting me moving in the RIGHT direction!
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I don't see that I'm using that much more in water or electricty. I have to wash the towels I use to clean up spills and I have to wash diapers and mamma pads anyway so all I'm really doing is making a small/medium load a tiny tiny bit larger.

Another thing to think about is that this isn't always JUST for the sake of the environment. I'm also thinking about my family's health. We have so many allergies in this house that we do whatever we can to make things more natural. Have you ever experienced a child break out in hives on their bum because dh bought the wrong toilet paper?? It's not a pleasant experience for the child or for the parent.
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I have to say, I mostly just started this because we had a bidet and needed something to wipe the water away with, and tp would just fall apart. And then I started reading these threads (and mostly stopped using the bidet, since it was too cold -- and now we've moved) and I decided to just switch to cloth.

And I have to say, I really prefer cloth. Yeah, I know it seems very radical and out there, but it just feels better. Maybe I'm a weirdo, but it just works for me.

I think my cloth rags take up less than 1% of any laundry load. And I don't use bleach or anything. I don't really see the difference between washing cloth rags that have had all the poop rinsed off of them and underwear that was touching my bum all day. Especially thongs. I mean, that gets all up in there. (Not that I wear thongs all the time, but still).

Anyway, maybe I'm just more relaxed about it than the average person...
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actually, i found some history on tp, for some fun reading (you can print it out and read it on the toilet )

http://www.toiletpaperworld.com/tpw/...n/funfacts.htm
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Ooh, good find MelMel, and an even better idea as to what to do with it

I just KNOW that my mother is going to get wind of this and spend an hour just rolling her eyes at me (sigh). The list of what's been used for TP over time might be particularly helpful to that cause. Maybe. :P

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So, I've decided to use cloth TP for pee for myself. I told DH today. He was sort of wierded out and said he didn't think it was a good idea. I asked why, since I already use cloth pads for my period. He said, well you don't get your period that often! He thinks it's going to make more laundry but it isn't. You can always squeeze a few more socks or undies in a full load, so why not the wipes? He also said something about it being dry and irritating - but how is it more irritating than regular TP? I said, "I can always wet them first!"

So he said, "Do what you think is best!" - I'm sure he's just wierded out by the idea, which is strange considering how NFL our family is. I mean, often after he pees, he gets some drops of pee on his briefs - so this isn't much different.

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i had a friend who was totally weirded out when she came over one day while i was putting the cloth TP back in the bathroom after doing a load. but like 2 weeks later, we came to visit and i brought my can and cloth. she was totally open to it then and thought it was awesome and super convienet, not to mention cute too!

probably didnt make a convert then, but planted a seed at least. i did with my CD too when she saw how easy they were and they came with snaps not pins.
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Wow I'm really glad to have read this thread. Honestly I've always been put off by the idea but after reading this thread I'm thinking that I could totally see using cloth at least just for pee for me (which is probably where a whole lot of our TP goes). I know I could never get DH to go for it at all but that's OK, he doesn't use much TP anyways.

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I bought my first batch on eBay!!! 26 wipes (flannel, serged) that were seconds (slightly off serging, etc.) so they were only $12 with shipping. Yeah, I know I could have made them for nothing except that I have no sewing machine, and most new wipes cost at least $1 each online.

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I know that all of you are trying to do your part for mother earth, but...doesn't this seem a little over the top? i know, most of you will get upset that i even had to make a mention, but, i don't know...

what about the extra soap, water and heat needed to wash in hot water that is necessary to clean the cloths? feces is filled with awful bacteria...i wouldn't want to take ANY chances with my family's health.

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are you serious? If so:

1) toilet paper takes water, heat, and tons of chemicals to make and each time, it uses more trees.

2) you can wash them in loads of laundry you are already doing. I know I can always find room for more socks or undies in a load I'm doing - why not wipes?

3) well, if people are already cloth diapering, what's a little more feces?

4) It's not like we're reusing the wipes for cloth napkins!

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PikkuMyy Fleece doesn't fray so you could have made some from that for relatively cheap. Hancock Fabrics is doing a major sale this saturday, 10-50% off, so you could pick up some fleece for like $3 a yard and make about 30-50 depending on size.
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PikkuMyy you are showing remarkable restraint. :LOL I bought new wipes from the same place I buy my girls' wipes - I figured if I used cheap wipes I'd be jealous. : Anyway, I'm enjoying this thread. I have found it very inspiring.

Not sure if mamasittingduck came and went but if she's returning to the thread I'd invite her to spend some time over at the diapering boards and learn how the care and feeding of cloth in the home begins for many of us. Once you can do diaper laundry comfortably, hygenically, economically, and ecologically, the rest of the house just seems to fall into place more easily.

Another poster indicated her DH wouldn't be on board - though she didn't indicate his reasons I know my DH's objections were a combination of cost and hygiene. He didn't believe we would truly save money (mainly because he didn't believe we could stick with it) and he didn't believe we could get anything clean. I proposed only purchasing enough each month to add up to the total monthly bill for sposie dipes/wipes, and building up the stash gradually. This worked on several levels: I got comfortable wth the cloth dipes over time and got to work out kinks in the laundering, storing, timing of changes, etc. DH got comfortable with the fact that I meant business. And the month the stash was completed I also sold some FBs, used, for more than I had paid for them new, on Ebay. DH is a convert! From there I used the same philosophy with mama cloth: I figured my monthly costs for sposie products and am slowly building up a stash of mama cloth from that budget amount. Since I have the laundry thing figured out by now adding mama cloth was no strain on the laundry. Adding cloth TP for me is working the same way - build up a stash of the kinds of wipes I really like over time. Laundry is not a big issue once you get the hang of it, the dipes, mama cloth, and wipes are clean clean clean.

In related news, our electric bill went down almost $40.00 per month after I started CDing - because I made a concerted effort to save electricity for the washer and dryer, I found all kinds of ways to cut out electricity elsewhere, so our electricity use is much more ecologically sound now. Also, our water bill went up only $5.00 per month. I surmise that my former portion of paper TP used infinitely more water and electricity to create in a factory, not to mention the bleach and other chemicals used, the use of trees, etc etc.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, CLOTH ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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PikkuMyy Fleece doesn't fray so you could have made some from that for relatively cheap. Hancock Fabrics is doing a major sale this saturday, 10-50% off, so you could pick up some fleece for like $3 a yard and make about 30-50 depending on size.
My mama pads use fleece on the bottom to prevent leakage - which sounds to me like the water resistant quality would prevent them from properly soaking up my urine. Have you not found that to be the case? Plus, if I used a spray solution, wouldn't it just run off the fleece?

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There are different types of fleece. If you buy fleece from a local store it should be fine. Microfleece used in pads and dipes is not the same fleece you buy at Hancock, JoAnne's or even walmart. It shouldn't be an issue any more than any other fabric. I know the first couple of times I used flannel the water rolled off but after being washed a couple of times they no longer do that. I'd think fleece would be the same.

Someone did mention on another thread that you could cut up a t-shirt, also doesn't fray, but I think that's a little thin.
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If you cut up old tshirts just make the squares big enough to fold over once or twice. I think I cut up 3 shirts and that is enough for me. If the squares are too little, just use 2 pieces. Tshirts are soft, too! Fleece is made out of polyester so maybe cotton would be softer, and more grabby. But you could try it! I'd like to know if this works. Oh also, I had trouble with fleece from Joanns starting to contain odor after a while. I had made a few fleece liners for dipes out of that cheap fleece. I ended up tossing them because they smelled. But maybe I was washing wrong or something....
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Ok, I was thinking about this while I used my wipies on our vacation...

I like thicker cloth or double layers for my wipies - I don't want wet hands! I like smaller ones for pee 3x3 or 4x4, and bigger, soft! ones for BM - usually a 8x8. I also like to use water or a wiping solution then too - Dr. B's and water in a foamy bottle, natural oils, or something else that really helps clean. I have found doing this has helped with my occcasional hemmoroids (sp?). Keeps them from bothering me and itching.

I am still working on a container for the bathroom that doesn't look like a trash can and used as such by DD or visitors. LMK if you have cute suggestions!
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Hello!

I too have been trying to use non-disposables everywhere in the house and hadn't really thought about toilet paper. But it makes a lot of sense to use cloth, especially after having a baby and seeing how soft it is when using a washcloth instead of paper.

So when I saw this thread a few weeks ago it instantly made sense to me, so off I went to buy lots of washcloths. I don't think I will "convert" my husband to it anytime soon but I was the one using most of the paper anyway!

It seems strange that there is so little on the net about cloth toilet paper, except here at MDC...

Anyway, I just thought I'd finally pop in here for a second to say I love this idea and can hardly believe that something like toilet paper could seem so exciting to me!
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No mini shower, no rinsing at all. there isn't that much poo on a grown up butt. we also keep paper on hand for anything better flushed.

we use just regular cheap washcloths and have about 5 dozen. we store them in a basket on the back of the toilet. when we are done with them we throw them in the dirty clothes and sort later. I do a small load of just wash cloths usually and any towels that were used to soak up peee from the floor. (there are about 3 too many stairs between "I goota go" and the toilet for my toddler and she ususally loses it right before she can get her pants down poor baby)

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Wow I'm really glad to have read this thread. Honestly I've always been put off by the idea but after reading this thread I'm thinking that I could totally see using cloth at least just for pee for me (which is probably where a whole lot of our TP goes). I know I could never get DH to go for it at all but that's OK, he doesn't use much TP anyways.
I wish more people had this attitude. Nothing you do to help the environment has to be all or nothing. even if you reduce one roll of TP a month or switch one disposable diaper a day for a cloth or use a hand towel twice when you reached for paper you are making a big different. all these little things add up and they are the first steps to bigger changes. The biggest thing we can start to change is our mind. after that our habits and customs will be easy.

Good for everyone who has read this thread and is giving it a try.

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I, too, switched to cloth after this thread got started! I love it! Bought a whole bunch of washcloths and do the cute basket on the back of the toilet bit :LOL . DH is a no-go as of yet, but you never can tell with him! :LOL I used the most tp anyhow. Our household saves so much money between cloth nappies and wipes, my DIVA cup, cloth napkins, cloth "paper"towels, and me switching to the family cloth! We added it up to be approx 1500 / year! Of course, I used to overkill on the papertowel and toilet paper usage! Wow the savings! :LOL So glad I found this board! I'm on the prowl for some decent hankies now

Thanks for all the great info guys!

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Are those little polyester baby wash cloths ok to use as a wipe? (you know, those small baby wash cloths that aren't really good for anything). I'm kind of embarrassed to ask now because that's what I've been using on dd and myself ever since she was born (they come 8 for a dollar at my local dollar store). But I never actually investigated as to whether or not the chemicals ect. were ok for us to use or not :

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Wow! This thread just kept going and going (and going!). Okay, so a little update! I have been using cloth tp for myself for pee's (and of course dd) and it's been going fine! We definitely go through less tp around here now!

Melaya, those are what I use...just the little cheap washcloths. Probably not the *softest* option, but still better than paper!

DH won't try yet. He just thinks it's too much! :LOL But they are there for him when he finally comes around. I haven't bought any tp since I started but we still have a club pack to go through so we will have some around for awhile for him, anyway!

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Are those little polyester baby wash cloths ok to use as a wipe? (you know, those small baby wash cloths that aren't really good for anything). I'm kind of embarrassed to ask now because that's what I've been using on dd and myself ever since she was born (they come 8 for a dollar at my local dollar store). But I never actually investigated as to whether or not the chemicals ect. were ok for us to use or not :


Yes they work. I perfer my other wipes though. I really like those wipes you are talking about for hankies - I keep them in my bedside drawer (when I need a tissue the most) and just throw it in the laundry basket. Good Luck!
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I'm liking the cloth TP thing, I really am! I already wash cloth dipes and wipes for the babies every other day so I just throw my wipes in with that laundry now. It's great.

I got some really cute wipes here:

http://www.hiddenpearlcreations.com/...at=FamilyWipes

I bought the kid ones for me because, well they were cheaper and I like kid fabric patterns anyways, they are a great size for me especially where I'm only using them for pee right now. Having four boys I was kind of exicted to be able to pick 'girl' as the fabric option. :LOL (Is it weird to get all excited when your pee wipes come in? )

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(Is it weird to get all excited when your pee wipes come in? )

It is, but that didn't stop me from getting all excited when mine arrived this week! I bought them on e-bay - they were seconds made by a WAHM/D. I washed them last night and I'll start using them tonight (I didn't separate them all when I washed them so I had to redry them.)

Dh had a great idea for me to put them in a mesh bag when I wash them so they stay together. I did that today and think that I'll use it to line the container I'm going to use for dirties so when it's full, I just pull the drawstring closed and toss in the washing machine. I still need a container, though. i wanted to use an old disposable baby wipes ones but when I asked the family I care for, they had recently thrown out all the old ones (they're still using disposables but only buying refills instead of new plastic containers.)

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Ooooh, that's clever to use a mesh bag! I think I'm going to try that...

All this talk about cool wipes makes me want some! :LOL My wipes are very DIY -- just an old purple shirt of my dh's cut up (and not evenly, either). I did it quickly and wasn't thinking about asthetics.
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I have been using cloth dipes on my son since he was born 1 1/2 years ago and I can't believe it never occurred to me to try using cloth TP...duh!

I am off to grap some of DS 's wipes...


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I read this thread first about a month ago but have been holding off until I oculd find a good thing to keep the used ones in. I saw this in a catalogue which seemed perfect (easy lift of lid, heavy-ish so as not to tip and not like a bin)

Then I hit a financial sanity moment and realised £12 was a bit much considering I had cut the wipes from a flanelette sheet! So I found a £1.99 toilet brush holder like this one but in plastic and unscrewed the brush from the lid which works great! Ds1 has done the maths and we will save about £200 per year if we stop using TP!

What an adventure. Now I'm looking for some fluffy terry to cut up and sew....
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Is that the same Woolworth's that used to be in the US?

They went out of business about 7 years ago but I miss that store so much! They just had almost anything you could need without being a huge department store/walmart type of store.

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Pikku Yes it is the same. Its the only 'sell everything' place in our town and we love it.

An update on our cloth adventure

I have cut even more wipes from the flannelette sheet as some managed to end up in the garden and got manky and had to be composted. Then I found a lovely dark pink towel in a thrift store which was really soft and fluffy so I boiled that and cut it for the stickier jobs!

Dh is not having anything to do with it but ds1 likes the towelling ones and dd loves her dab-dabs and finds TP scratchy now.

The reason for the scratchy TP is that Dh is now buying recycled TP in packs of 16 from Lidl for less than £2 so we really are saving money even if he isn't using cloth.

A few CD friends have commented on what a good idea it is to keep the 'wipes' on top of the toilet in the bathroom and were not too shocked when I told them why they were there! One has even put her old wipes to the same use (also to the dismay of her dh - one crunch too many!!!!)

So to those of you browsing and thinking this might be a good idea - take the plunge - Love your Bum for less
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