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#1 of 21 Old 10-19-2005, 04:53 PM - Thread Starter
 
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I was wondering about homemade cleaners (vinegar, baking soda) so they kill germs? Especially the bathroom or meat ones (we are going meat free here now, but just in case) Also could ya'll tell me some basic recipes for cleaning solutions...TIA Jennifer

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http://www.care2.com/channels/solutions/home/164

Baking soda works in a different way to clean. First off, it's mildly abrasive, so it scrubs the dirt away. But like vinegar is acidic, baking soda is basic, so it works on different kinds of dirt.

Here are my recipes. (I like it simple. )

Counters: APC (All Purpose Cleaner) 1 t washing soda, 2 t borax, 1 t castile soap, EOs of your choice, and 2 c hot water. Shake to mix, spray where it needs it.

For windows, mirrors, stainless steel, and stoves: Vinegar, straight. If it's greasy or hard to get off, shake baking soda and then spray vinegar. It fizzes, and it's fun to watch!

For the tub, same deal. Vinegar spray, shake bs into tub, scrub really well.

For the toilet, shake bs into bowl, pour some vinegar in, scrub. For the outside, APC all over.

I think that's everything.
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I bought a gallon of Life Tree bathroom cleaner from Azure last month. It is my favorite cleaner. It has TTO and lavender oil so I rest knowing everything gets clean. I mean, when you think about it, many things may kill germs- but what are they leaving behind that is toxic?????????

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yeah

and the germs normally found in your home would be ones that your body already has defenses to fight. Mutant germs that are created by overuse of antimicrobial products are the ones you should be afraid of the most!
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I am just going to use up the stuff we have then go all natural (I am doing that with my hair and bodycare too).....I also decided that I hate the idea of having stuff in my home that could kill my toddler ....thanks for your help all..

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My friend asked me this question the other day and I asked her if she was getting sick all the time by all the various microbes we are supposed to be so scared of that we go running to the cleaning aisle to buy toxic garbage? She said no she didn't get sick from her natural cleaning so I said why not just continue with it then?
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but what about eggs and, like the op mentioned, meat. i'm always kinda paranoid about those things.

also, what do you mamas use for the really bad stains like blueberries?

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I know I have the same thoughts, but I use a natural homemead spray made of castille soap, tea tree oil and water and I have not had any serious food borne illness due to the fact that I don't use a commercial cleaning agent.

Sometimes I put baking soda right on the counter, too.
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If you're concerned about disinfecting, say, after using a cutting board for meat, or if the remains are in the sink, you can scald it out with boiling water. I learned this from a friend recently and my only comment was - duh! Why have I never thought of that? :LOL

I recall back in my TV-watching days also that a germ "expert" specified that if you are, for example, out and about and not able to wash your hands, simply rubbing them vigorously on a clean cloth will remove 90% of the germs. I don't have any links or resources to back that up but it makes sense. The vinegar/baking soda presumably are an extension of that principle. And as one who has decided to use up the chemicals before switching entirely, and is now using a mix, I can say that the chemical stuff is shockingly harsh. Now - why can't I bring myself to just discard it?
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also, what do you mamas use for the really bad stains like blueberries?
Oxyclean or some equivalent. I sprinkle it on my sink and/or counters (which get blueberry stains ALL THE TIME) and let it sit for a while, then scrub a bit with a rag and rinse. Oxyclean isn't as "natural," I realize, as baking soda and vinegar, but my understanding (and please, folks, correct me if I'm wrong) is that it is fairly safe, non-toxic, non bad for the environment.
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Unless you have some sort of infectious diarrhea (salmonella, shigella, cholera) your bathroom germs aren't hazardous to you or your family. Shocking, I know.

As for meats, I use a plastic cutting board & wash it well. Meats never touch the bare countertop around here.

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A study showed that vinegar kills 99.9% of bacteria.
Tea tree oil is also a disinfectant.
Lemon juice can be used to clean and disenfect cutting boards, sinks etc
Hydrogen peroxide is good for stain removal in clothes, and probably on countertops too - never tried that.

I also read somewhere that it is actually better to use a wooden cutting board as bacteria is harder to remove from the plastic - guess I'll go look around on the net to find out for sure...
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I bought a gallon of Life Tree bathroom cleaner from Azure last month. It is my favorite cleaner. It has TTO and lavender oil so I rest knowing everything gets clean. I mean, when you think about it, many things may kill germs- but what are they leaving behind that is toxic?????????

I that cleanser too! Unfortunatly my hfs doesn't sell it anymore so I have to find it somewhere else & STOCK up! It is a GREAT natural-germ fighter!
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about the killing germs thing...

use lemons!!! cut one in half, and use it to scrub, it will disinfect.

There is virtually NO organism on the planet that can survive at a pH below 3, lemon is a 2 i think.

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I use hydrogen peroxide, which is a disinfectant, to kill mold, and clean my drains, etc. You can buy a nice strong one at the health food store under the title of non-chlorine bleach. This works well for stains on clothing as well. But for big clothing stains, I use Ecover's stain remover.

But sometimes I use white vinegar to disinfect as well, if there isn't a big mold issue.

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As for meats, I use a plastic cutting board & wash it well.

Keep washing it WELL and dry it well, also. Replace it when it has a lot of knife cuts in it. This is due to the fact that bacteria love little places like knife cuts in plastic. Wood is actually a better cutting surface than plastic - it is an inherently hostile environment to bacteria (meaning, bacteria have a very difficult time growing).
Also, an effective method for sanitizing cutting boards is by pouring boiling water over it and then adding some salt and rubbing with half of a lemon; rinse.

One last note... Your best defense against food borne illness is REFRIGERATION! Don't let any food set out at room temp for extended periods of time - pop it in the fridge!

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I use rubbing alchol to kill germs. I have rubbing alchol and lemon essential oil mixed up in a sprayer. Its good to have around to kill yuckies when theres a stommoch bug going around.
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[QUOTE=AmyY]I recall back in my TV-watching days also that a germ "expert" specified that if you are, for example, out and about and not able to wash your hands, simply rubbing them vigorously on a clean cloth will remove 90% of the germs.


I work in healthcare and no matter what kind of soap you use, it is the scrubbing and friction that loosen and remove the germs. That's why surgeons "scrub in" for several minutes and then wash it all down the drain.

Along these same lines, I read somewhere that those new microfiber cleaning cloths(you can buy them at Walmart in the automotive section) remove 99% of bacteria using plain water, just because of their scrubbing properties.

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I remember reading here, though, that TTO loses its anti bacterial properties extremely quickly after exposure to air. So, I've always added TTO to my cleaner and now am questioning that.
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I recently gave a speech on just this topic.

This is my best referece for otherwise mainstream people--Heloise and 48 Hours
CBS News

Quote:
We put the mold into the grout of the tiles," says Gina Marino, Good Housekeeping's microbiologist.

This mold and bacteria had to grow for a few days.

And when it was time for results of the experiment, vinegar's greatest booster flew in to hear the answer to her question.

"Well, with mold, it's sort of effective," Marino says. "It reduced it by 90 percent actually."

But what was really exciting for Heloise is how well vinegar worked against bacteria.

It was 99.9 percent effective.

Vinegar worked far better than anyone expected.



YES Vinegar kills bacteria and mold!!!!
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Gotta try this...

My goto cleaner these days is under all my sinks now. Called Freshana. Fairly new on the scene but beyond awesome. Freshana.com
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