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I keep getting UTIs every couple of months and really don't want to keep on getting scripts for prescriptions to get rid of them. I take the concentrated cranberry extract whenever I feel one coming on but it doesn't always work and I end up having to take a round of antibiotics. Do any of you mamas have ideas or suggestions to get rid of UTIs naturally?

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i personally don't have any experience with it but i have heard really good things about d-mannose.

hope you feel better soon, mama. uti's are so hard to deal with.
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I keep getting UTIs every couple of months and really don't want to keep on getting scripts for prescriptions to get rid of them. I take the concentrated cranberry extract whenever I feel one coming on but it doesn't always work and I end up having to take a round of antibiotics. Do any of you mamas have ideas or suggestions to get rid of UTIs naturally?

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No advice on getting rid of them. I used to get them 3-4 x's a year about 8 yrs ago. I finally cut out all soda, white flour & sugar. I only drank water (I drink about 1 galllon a day). No problems since

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Man, I used to get them all the time, even low grade ones. Unfortunately I know all about this topic...I got an earful from the the doctor at the clinic while I was in college...

The other ladies are right. Sugar and caffeine aggravate UTI's. Getting dehydrated aggravates UTI's. Yes, drinking lots of water helps.

Having sex does not though.

Since we can't all be chaste, there are some steps you have to take to prevent UTI's, as unpleasant as it seems. The reason for getting UTI's is threefold. First of all, when you're having sex, more often than not, you're bruising your bladder, which irritates the lining of your bladder and tissues. It sounds Dr. Ruth-ish, but try being on top or some other position than missionary.

Even if you don't do any of that, clean yourself after sex and pee. This will flush out the bacteria from the bladder (the bacteria coming from you and your partner which is currently sticking to your urethra). Be sure to wipe front to back. E-coli from the perianal area causes UTI's as well.

Secondly, you and your partner can exchange yeast and bacteria back and forth which further aggravate UTI's. Try to get your partner to do a better job of washing up and/or give him some anti-yeast/fungal ointment as well. The folds of skin on the penis harbors all kinds of yeast and bacteria.

Third, the infection stays and can get resistant to antibiotics. If you are in dire straights, try the over the counter medication for UTI's (UZO is good), but other than that, keep doing the cranberry extract. Is that the same as cranberry pills? The regular cranberry pills from the drug store are horsepills. You have to take a couple of horsepills worth of the cranberry pills and flush it down with LOTS of water to mimic having a few glasses of cranberry juice. If you're taking the little gelcaps of cranberry juice extract (powdered cranberry juice), you have to take like 3 or more for it to work. 3 like several times a day.

As with yeast infections, keeping the vagina area dry is good. After showering, take a blow dryer on cool to warm heat and dry the area, including the perianal area. Cool, dry, clean underwear with a cotton lining is always a plus.

What I do these days is pop some cranberry juice pills (Juice Plus pills are great, it has acidophilus in it already; I take the cranberry and other juice extract) right after sex. I pee and clean myself up and do whatever I need to. I have explained to my significant other that I'm not trying to kill the mood or anything, but it's nicer to come to bed clean and refreshed and so that I will not be sick with an infection in the morning. He understands.

In the morning, I may even pop a few apple cider vinegar pills or drink 2 teaspoons with lots of water. I do this when I feel discomfort when urinating, even when there has not been any sex involved. Summer is bad for UTI's regardless of intercourse. Sometimes not drinking enough water, drinking soda or something with caffeine, and general stress will do it. The apple cider vinegar pills help balance the yeast AND kill any bad bacteria. It helps flush the kidneys as well.

Don't let UTI's go too far. The bacteria travels from the urethra into your bladder, up the ureters and into your kidneys. Once you have a kidney infection, that's just bad, bad news.

Take some tylenol for standard UTI discomfort.

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Adding to Spastica's great advice above:

I suffered from UTI's for 20 years, but have now been UTI free for the past 3 years. I did one of Dr. Schulze's kidney/bladder cleanses (the whole regimen can be found at www.herbdoc.com). I also abstained from sex for a period (for spiritual reasons, but it helped physically too). At around the same time (because I went on a general health kick), I also stopped drinking all sodas and caffeine (and now only drink caffeine once in a blue moon socially...****, no sodas). I drink distilled water every day and it is usually my drink of choice with all meals. If I'm dining out and can't have distilled water, I order whatever water is available and flavor it with a little lemon (I hate the taste of any non-distilled water). Occassionally, I drink juice and, even then, I try to drink fresh squeezed juice as much as possible. I seriously limit my sugar intake as well as all yeast products. Before and right after sex, I also make sure that I drink plenty of water to make me urinate and I shower immediately afterwards as well.

I used to get bladder infections so badly that sometimes I would pass blood in place of urine and the pain was unbearable. I would also get them just about every time I'd have sex. I've been treated medically more times than I can count and had tried every over the counter product I could get my hands on. Cranberry juice worked for several years, but after a while I didn't even get relief from it. I attribute Dr. Schulze's kidney/bladder cleanse for putting my system back on track, but it's definitely a lifestyle change that has helped me stay on track.
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I used to get UTI's in college. The last time I ended up with a European doctor who told me that Europeans wash their anal area with soap and water after every BM and have fewer UTI's than American women. It worked for me until I hit an early (surgically induced) menopause, then I found that hormonal issues made me more susceptible to UTI's. Now I make sure to drink a lot of water, and take the cranberry capsules any time I'm in a situation where I might be more likely to get one (traveling, romantic weekend getaway, etc).
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Damn, I hate my internet connection. I posted some more good info and it's all gone now :

Bah, I'll post again later.
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i always use (and it works every time)

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And you don't want to take cranberry once the infection has started. You want to take it before that. The studies that show how cranberry helps were done with people who took cranberry every day and thus had a far lower rate of UTIs than those who didn't.

I like the idea of taking it as a prophylactic after sex, along with washing the genital areas before sex. My husband and I used to wash every time before and after. now that I don't get them much any more, I clean the area with witch hazel/water and he washes. After, I pee and drink a bunch of water so I can pee again soon.

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Wow! Lots of great suggestions! Thanks, mamas.

What is d-mannose? I haven't heard of it before...

I did end up this time on an antibiotic as I wasn't able to "drown" the infection with lots of water as I have in the past. I find when I haven't been drinking enough liquids that I'm more likely to get a UTI so I need to be more vigilant about my water intake. I'll also, as someone suggested, start taking the cranberry concentrated pill all the time instead of just when I feel symptoms coming on.

I also don't eat any white sugar or much white flour or soda but I do drink a cup of coffee and many cups of tea every day... maybe if I cut back on caffeine that will also help.

I don't usually get them from sex anymore (although I did all the time when I first became sexually active) but I'll make a point of washing and peeing afterwards to see if that keeps the infections at bay... although all I usually want to do at that point is go to sleep!

I hate being on an antibiotocs and because of my UTIs end up on them way more than is healthy so hopefully some of the preventative stuff you all suggested will help.
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I like the idea of taking it as a prophylactic after sex, along with washing the genital areas before sex. .
A probiotic is something herbal you take to aid in health, a prophylactic is a condom , just so you know

Actually in my post that didn't post, I was going to suggest that the use of a condom actually helps with the UTI thing, you don't get any yeast or much bacteria from that. Keep well lubricated with non-flavored, un-perfumed, non-dyed, non-cheap lubricant like KY Jelly also helps reduce irritation to the urethra. Just don't use too much or else you get the e.coli problem again from all the goopy stuff sliding everywhere that it's not supposed to.
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Uva Ursi (don't use it for more than ten days) and Yarrow might help with chronic reoccurrence. Here's a link that will explain more:

http://www.project-aware.org/Managing/Alt/urinary.shtml

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I was getting them all the time a few years back, even had a few that developed into kidney infection. The doc had me on antibiotics DAILY!! That was not good. I dropped the a/bs & started doing the wash & pee routine after sex and then after I washed up I'd go and drink about an eighth of a cup of straight lemon juice.

Any time I feel the slightest weirdness in the area I drink a little lemon juice several times a day. I haven't had a UTI in nearly six years on this routine.
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Subbing to the thread.

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i personally don't have any experience with it but i have heard really good things about d-mannose.

hope you feel better soon, mama. uti's are so hard to deal with.
Ditto the d-mannose. My mom swears by the stuff. I think it somehow bonds to the wall of the bladder and clears the bacteria out.
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A probiotic is something herbal you take to aid in health, a prophylactic is a condom , just so you know
Spastica, just so that you know ...a prophylactic is also any remedy that wards off disease or illness.

Great advice though!
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Jael, good point.

I think in most cases people think of latex based birth controls like cups or condoms. I can just SEE somebody's face if somebody said "yeah, I swallowed some prophylactics today...."

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In addition to all the good recommendations so far:

Make sure to empty your bladder completely every time, by "pushing" when you think you're done.

If you use any kind of vaginal gear (menstrual cup, tampons, diaphragm, etc.), always pee immediately before inserting it. An object in the vagina can create a "pocket" in the bladder that doesn't empty when you pee.

Whatever menstrual gear you currently use, try something else. I've heard of this helping women with UTIs, switching in all different directions. In my case, switching from tampons to the Keeper seemed to help, though I can't figure out why.

Don't use any artificially-scented or other strong chemical products in the area. Even if the soap you use now is a gentle one, consider trying a different gentle soap.

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I can just SEE somebody's face if somebody said "yeah, I swallowed some prophylactics today...."

Toooooo funny!!! LOL
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If you use any kind of vaginal gear (menstrual cup, tampons, diaphragm, etc.), always pee immediately before inserting it. An object in the vagina can create a "pocket" in the bladder that doesn't empty when you pee.
Great advice, Becca! I'd never thought of that, but will practice it from now on.
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Just putting in my 2 cents, but I have also noticed a drop in UTIs since switching from tampons to a cup. I would get an infection every month and most of the time I would have to go to a Dr to get rid of it.
I have learned to drink a lot of cranberry juice and water at the onset of symptoms as well.
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I've been reading "Herbal Perscriptions for Better Health," and the author recommends for yeast infections that one takes echinacea during a yeast infection, saying that a study has shown that it drastically reduces recurrences in the future. There was no mention of this with UTIs, but it's worth trying.
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Interesting thread. The first couple years we were married, I got several UTI's per year. It was horrible. I don't know whether this is typical, but mine were really fast onset. Fom the time I had my first inkling that something was wrong, to the time when I was in extreme discomfort and couldn't leave the toilet was 1 hour. I actually had to walk out in the middle of church once because I suddenly felt an infection coming on.

My doctor(s) always treated it with antibiotics, which I didn't like, but drinking huge jugs of cranberry juice did nothing for me. I was carefully following all the standard medical advice about avoiding UTI's (see all the posts above) and still nothing helped.

When I went on the Atkins diet I was UTI-free for a year. Maybe due to the cessation of refined carbs and sugars. I got one more infection while I was on Atkins, and it also was treated with antibiotics. Then I got a jar of D-Mannose and I take a dose of it whenever I feel like I'm coming down with an infection. I have never had an infection again (in about 2 years) although I have occasionally felt irritation in my urethra, particularly when I haven't been drinking enough water (as someone above pointed out). Does this mean D-Mannose works? I have no idea. There was one infection while I was a long way from home on a road trip, that got to nearly full-blown status (with "urge" and strong irritation) but I really think the only thing that cured it was prayer. My DH and I were praying hardcore that time (can you imagine having a UTI while hundreds of miles away from your home and doctor?!)

Someone told me she also had recurrent UTI's but a few years ago she did the Hulda Clark kidney cleanse and hasn't had any UTI's since. Has anyone here tried it?
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great advice.

Also, I've read that tampons, specifically, can press in a certain position and thereby irritate that bladder/UT.

d-mannose is the ingredient in cranberry that keeps the bacteria from sticking to the bladder/UT walls. Cranberry capsules/extract and echinacea has worked for me in the past, and now very rarely I am forced to resort to antibiotics.

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I just did a search here, actually might have been on the health board, last week for the same issue. It seems many were recommending Uva Ursi. I also checked the website where I order my multivitamins because they have a section for common health issues and "cures" and Uva Ursi was also recommended there for bladder infections. So I bought some from Whole Foods, in the herbal capsule section, and have been taking 3 capsules a day for about 4 days now. I think it is completely gone now. Early on I also bought unsweetened pure 100% cranberry juice....but that was adding up....in price and calories. So that's why I tried the Uva Ursi which seems to have worked for me. Good luck.
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This may seem like a no-brainer to some, but don't buy Ocean Spray or other store brands of "cranberry juice". They're actually about 30% juice, with the rest being sugar and water...the WORST thing for a UTI! Stick with cranberry caps or, if you can stand it, cranberry concentrate!
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