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#61 of 208 Old 11-05-2008, 05:40 PM
 
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Hi mamas! I'll be getting a friend to do my dreads in December when she is off work for an op (give her something to do and maintain..) and was planning to use wax as suggested in the Knotty Boy videos, then saw here that its not recommended. Why is that?

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Hey, Melly!

The reasons I have heard for not using wax are mostly because it doesn't wash out. It can get a bit sticky and you may get "stuff" in your dreads that won't wash out. It could smell later, or not. I've heard it is pretty gross when you cut dreads that were made using wax, because there is all sorts of stuff in them.

I also know some people use wax, as long as they only use a tiny bit in the beginning.

I haven't used any wax and I don't want to because of the potential mess it could make. I am having a hard enough time with my dreads!
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Clean hair knots up the best. The wax will look yucky, get stuck in your dreads and keep it from knotting up as well. A residue free shampoo is the only product you'll need. Good luck with your dreads

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The wax is used to make your hair *look* more knotted and less frizzy but it does the opposite by preventing it from making your hair lock up. It makes your hair sticky and pick up fuzz and makes a mess. Also it NEVER. WASHES. OUT. I learned that the hard way - I figured I'd just use it the first day we did it and maybe once or twice later on. It's been almost 6 months and that first days use is still in there; can't wash it all out of the middle of the dreads. Maybe eventually it will at least stop getting on my hands when I do my palm-rolling. So far, no luck.

I did love Knotty Boys pre-dreading soap though. It was the only thing that got most of the wax out.
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Also, not sure if it matters to you like it does me, but the wax is not vegan. We used Knotty Boy locksteady tightening gel and it worked great. Washed right out everytime. I only used it after I washed and my hair was dry. DH would palm roll each one with it and I only use it for the first 4 mo.

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You really don't need anything but residue free shampoo or Dr. Bonners for your hair to dread. Just make sure you separate your hair periodically to prevent congos (lots of dreads trying to make one giant one). I think if you use anything like wax or gel it will just prevent the locking process. Your hair needs movement to knot up and wax will not let your hair move. I suggest backcombing once and then let it do it's thing. It will take many months but it's worth it.
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Thanks for all your replies! It makes heaps of sense not to use it, Im so glad I asked

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alright- who lives in San Diego to come help me?!?! DH did 3 this morning, and i did another 4 just now. They ARE supposed to be funky and frizzy and possible not the same width, right? please tell me right If i do that tying yarn at the roots thing, will i be able to take it out relatively easy? When should i do that?

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oh, and they will shrink up a bit more (width wise) right???

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Post pics! Yeah they should be fat and frizzy. Palm roll them after you back comb. They will probably shrink more as they tighten up. I wouldn't worry about using bands or tying anything. Most people never have to do that. What type of hair do you have? Straight, thick, curly?

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My hair is pretty frizzy, and i would say medium thickness! Ugh, they are so funky looking! DH is going to come do some more right now so i will have him take a pic of the back. My hair is so dark and SUCH a mess, you can hardly even see I just learned that my hair is about 57 different lengths, thus making each one even frizzier than normal!

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Oh, and when i try and palm roll, they dont really roll. They just kind of squish flat, and then they are just flat Am I doing something wrong?

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Once again, remind me this is normal!!! Please?

My hair isn't really dreading up at all. Where I backcombed, some have stayed in around the front area and at the top of my head. Most of my hair underneath in the back is just loose. I am trying to keep them separated, but what else can I do?

I am washing when I feel like I need to, probably once a week or every 5 days. I am trying to keep them separated. DH has helped me roll them a few times so far. What else can I do? I have a weird matt/tangled mess of hair the frist two or so inches from my scalp, but I am having a hard time figuring out what to do with it.

I wish I had someone able to help me. *sigh*
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Nemesis:

yes it is normal, a lot of backcombing falls out. It's OK, think of it as your hair getting into a "comfortable" position before it locks nice and tight.

What are you washing with? Every 5 days should be great, your not using conditioner right? Also, how long have you been dreading? A month, 2 months, longer? It takes a lot of time... I have heard at least a year.

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As far as flattening, mine do that too. Some are round, some are flat, some are loopy, others aren't really dreaded at all. Had mine for 2 months. They'll shrink up a good bit, not only in width but also length, they'll probably sprout babies too....hope that helps.
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I am just trying to remember to just leave them alone, and even if they are fluffly and strange looking, they will EVENTUALLY turn into nice dreads

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Okay, so I now know that i can not take good pictures of myslef...I have been looking at pics of new dreads, and mine look awful They are so poufy...http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...iz_415/099.jpg
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http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...iz_415/115.jpg

Goodness! Sorry they are so large!! And then i guess i learned that this is what happens when you pull the hair up and back comb down. It is the only way I could get to the tip top of my head. DS kept saying "Oh mommy! I love your ice cream cone on your head!!"
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...iz_415/144.jpg

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They look great! Just perfect! Just remember to take the bands out

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nemesis, come on over, i'll do your dreads!

rjruiz, they look just fine. they'll settle in time.
and you don't *have* to take the bands out. they will eventually come out on their own. personal choice.

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: Hey dready mamas. I've been lurking (and I think I even posted once or twice off and on for over a year now as I grow my hair out with the intention of dreading. I've finally hit shoulder length : (it was super short) so I might be close to giving it a shot soon.

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majikfaerie, I would love to!

I have a friend that used to have dreads, I will ask her for some encouragement this weekend.
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Hello to my favorite faerie : Wanna come dread my head? lol

Also, I'm considering one of the dreadhead hq 'kits' (with the locking accelorator and shampoo etc) and would like to get some opinions on them? I know the wax isn't the best idea so that's something I would use very very sparingly if at all But thought I'd see if anyone else is using products like these to help their locs along??

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Hello to my favorite faerie : Wanna come dread my head? lol

Also, I'm considering one of the dreadhead hq 'kits' (with the locking accelorator and shampoo etc) and would like to get some opinions on them? I know the wax isn't the best idea so that's something I would use very very sparingly if at all But thought I'd see if anyone else is using products like these to help their locs along??
Nope. I am just using my hair, which is the PERFECT texture for dreading, and some Dr. B's when I wash.

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Goodness! Sorry they are so large!! And then i guess i learned that this is what happens when you pull the hair up and back comb down. It is the only way I could get to the tip top of my head. DS kept saying "Oh mommy! I love your ice cream cone on your head!!"
I like the ice cream cone on your head too. hehe. They look normal for brand spankin new dreads to me. You said you were having trouble rolling them--I have the same problem. I wait for my DH to do it, bc he somehow does it differently and they don't *squish* for him like they do for me. He tried to explain it--he puts them not in the middle of his palm, but at at the harder, broad-across part closer to the roots of his fingers, and presses them together super hard, and then rolls them really fast. Beats me, they still squish flat for me and I always feel like I am fumbling.
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Once again, remind me this is normal!!! Please?

My hair isn't really dreading up at all. Where I backcombed, some have stayed in around the front area and at the top of my head. Most of my hair underneath in the back is just loose. I am trying to keep them separated, but what else can I do?

I am washing when I feel like I need to, probably once a week or every 5 days. I am trying to keep them separated. DH has helped me roll them a few times so far. What else can I do? I have a weird matt/tangled mess of hair the frist two or so inches from my scalp, but I am having a hard time figuring out what to do with it.

I wish I had someone able to help me. *sigh*

Keep on keepin on...they are still very very new.
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am I subed to this? I think I missed the change over from summer!

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I used it on the whole scalp with emphasis on the itchiest parts. I only used it in the beginning when I was really itchy - haven't used it for awhile but would generally use it for any dandruff. As long as I dilute the ACV and EOs with water, it doesn't stink. The EOs smell stronger than the ACV generally but it all disipates rather quickly, especially cuz it's just on the scalp. You coul probably mix the peppermint oil in with the rest as it has a soothing affect on skin too. As far as I've read, peppermint and rosemary mix well.

BTW Your dreads look great. I can see the difference between early and late Oct as well!

I'll try to get some updated pics taken soon.
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looking great bluecactus! thanks for the pics!

dd took a pic of me the other day; actually its a crap pic of me since i'd just been crying, but my hair looks cool
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Ooh, it does look very cool.
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They're looking really good! They're nice and fat. I like the colors too.

eta I'm bleaching some of mine today. Yay!
Thanks! I'm, um, not sure how the colors got in there...it's been 2 years since I dyed my hair and I thought enough had grown out and been cut off that there wasn't still color in it...I don't know, its funny tho...

How did the bleaching go?
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Yeah! Finally caught up on everything I wanted to say on this thread. :
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