"No surfing the internet" week, anyone? - Mothering Forums

Forum Jump: 
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-29-2010, 06:54 AM - Thread Starter
 
Smokering's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 8,315
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Two weeks ago I vowed to stop surfing the internet for a week, because it's a huge timesuck for me. I tend to spend hours and hours looking up crafty stuff to "inspire" me, resulting in very little crafty stuff and an ever-growing mental pile of ideas which makes me feel permanently stressed and guilty. Not pretty. Also, I spend way too much time on MDC reading pages and pages of threads about people's mothers-in-law and childcare issues, on which I have nothing helpful to say. And, you know, Cake Wrecks.

So anyway, that week I didn't do any Internet browsing that wasn't necessary for my work (freelance writing), or necessary in terms of looking up recipes and phone numbers and such. It was cool! I didn't end up being vastly more productive - I turned to reading to get my downtime instead - but hey, I got through about eight books. And it was kind of unnerving to realise how automatically I'd go to the computer, even when there was nothing specific I wanted to look up.

Anyway, last week I Internet-ed again and I've decided I'd like to save the web for the weekends, at least week by week. So this week (it's Sunday here), no browsing until Saturday! Anyone wanna join me? I can't pop in to chat until Saturday, of course. Just thought it might inspire a few fellow Internet addicts!

If decomposition persists please see your necromancer.

Smokering is online now  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 08-29-2010, 02:48 PM
 
kristenok18's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: WI
Posts: 2,086
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I need to do something like this! I've been trying to make myself move the computer upstairs so that I won't be tempted to "hop on" all the time. Hasn't worked yet.
kristenok18 is offline  
Old 08-29-2010, 02:58 PM
 
tinybutterfly's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 9,821
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)


I've deleted all my news links, logged out of one of my other favorite message boards and logged out of fb and told everyone I'm on break. I did that last week. I am on my way already to trying to spend less time online.

I'm working hard at not cruising the interenet and trying to read more books or clean my house.

I'm in.

I have to check my e-mail a couple of times a day as that is the main way I keep in touch with people and I need to come to MDC a couple of times a day. Oh, and I like to check the weather for my area in the morning. Other than that, I will stay off the interwebz.

I have been thinking about putting my laptop in the closet. Seriously. Just unplugging for a few months totally. I can't do that realistically right now...but I think about it.

This is way, way worse for me than t.v. I can take or leave t.v., but the internet is very addictive.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle." -Plato
tinybutterfly is offline  
Old 08-29-2010, 04:25 PM
 
genifer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: In a land, far far away...
Posts: 1,185
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
What a capital idea! lol. Im not sure I can survive, mentally, without surfing the net all week and only on the weekends on a permanant basis, but I might be willing to consider to limiting my surfing time for one week of every month! I havent done much surfing over the summer with the kids off school anyway, but with school starting again the end of this week, that could be a good way to start the school year.
genifer is offline  
Old 08-29-2010, 04:48 PM
 
tinybutterfly's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 9,821
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by genifer View Post
What a capital idea! lol. Im not sure I can survive, mentally, without surfing the net all week and only on the weekends on a permanant basis,
I KNOW I use the internet surfing as a way to cope with stress.

I mean I am not sure which is worse, endless internet cruising, eating or shopping...those are my other stress relief activities.

I wish I was one of those people who CLEAN when they get stressed out.

Oh, I figured out how to stop myself from oogling the news on my yahoo page and getting sucked in. I set it to sports. I have zero interest in sports, so that will take care of that little bit of tempation.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle." -Plato
tinybutterfly is offline  
Old 08-29-2010, 06:04 PM
 
Purple Sage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 4,001
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
This is exactly what I need. My main issue is that I work from home online, and it is so tempting to read blogs or MDC instead of actually doing my job. I think I'll limit my online time Monday-Friday to work only during the day, and then spend a little time after the kids are in bed catching up on my email and blogs. I value a good night's sleep more than surfing the web, so I don't think I'll be tempted to spend too long online at night. It's all the times I have the intention of working but take "just a minute" to read something else that gets me. I hope this leads to more time on-the-clock (more money!) AND more time cooking, cleaning, and playing with the kids. The computer is such a time-suck, that is for sure!
Purple Sage is offline  
Old 08-29-2010, 09:16 PM
 
cristina47454's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: New England
Posts: 702
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
I think I need to jump in on this too. Ugh...but can I???? Other than bill pay and weather...makes me break a sweat just thinking about it. But I NEED to be present for my kids. During the summer it was easy bcs we were always at the pool or doing something outdoors. My fear is that when school starts in a couple of days I'll use it to "disengage" again. And I hate that side of me.
cristina47454 is offline  
Old 08-29-2010, 11:44 PM
 
VisionaryMom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 3,736
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I'm in. I do work remotely, so I have to be online for that. I will make a concerted effort not to do any chatting/message boards/Facebook/mindless surfing for trivia.

It's us: DH , DS ; DD ; and me . Also there's the . And the 3 . I . Oh, and .
VisionaryMom is offline  
Old 08-30-2010, 12:38 AM
 
LauraLoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: By the light of the silvery moon
Posts: 3,679
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I'll join, too. I've already put together a list of things I'd like to accomplish in the next week.....bet I'll make a decent dent. Not to mention that it's a week before the dc's start school.......I want to spend some extra time hanging with them.

See you all in a week!

Laura - Mom to ds (10) and dd (7) "Time stands still best in moments that look suspiciously like ordinary life." Brian Andreas.

LauraLoo is offline  
Old 08-30-2010, 12:57 PM
 
daisymama12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 724
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I need to do this too.
I was at a cottage this summer without my computer, and the place was always clean, and I know why!

Starting now!

Mama to my 2 boys
daisymama12 is offline  
Old 08-31-2010, 06:56 PM
 
tinybutterfly's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 9,821
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I'm here usually most days, so thought I'd check in. It's okay for me to check my e-mail or come to MDC. But NOT to use Google to cruise.

Big fail yesterday and today.

Gonna get off here soon and NOT use Google anymore this week.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle." -Plato
tinybutterfly is offline  
Old 08-31-2010, 08:59 PM
 
Dreaming's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Very grateful.
Posts: 3,316
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I want to join, but most of my connecting with other adults is done online.
I do know life would be so much better if I just stepped away from the computer. I'm in. I just need to think of my personal perimeters (I have an online business).

DS 6 DD 8
Dreaming is offline  
Old 09-01-2010, 05:17 PM
 
LauraLoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: By the light of the silvery moon
Posts: 3,679
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Well, 2 1/2 days I did pretty well. I was even going to limit my MDC surfing.....but I found that I needed to post some things today. No other surfing of the internet though, which is pretty easy for me.

Signing off now.....

Laura - Mom to ds (10) and dd (7) "Time stands still best in moments that look suspiciously like ordinary life." Brian Andreas.

LauraLoo is offline  
Old 09-02-2010, 03:42 AM
 
Dreaming's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Very grateful.
Posts: 3,316
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Well, I completely suck at doing no internet.
However, tomorrow is another day. I have a TON of things that need doing that do not include using the computer. I will do everything in my power to focus on them.
I just had a discussion with a few women in my business group about how no one reads craft blogs anymore because they can use that time to actually (wait for it) make their OWN crafts. Profound.
If I could tear myself away after just one blog, I'd do it, but one thing leads to another and soon I'm attempting to consume the entirety of the internet in one day.
My kids need me and my business needs me and my house needs me. I'm sure DH would prefer to have me around more. I am TOTALLY hiding out in the computer and it's not serving me. Instead, I'm getting sore (and sometimes half numb) hands and fingers from typing and using the mouse all day long.

Okay, so after all that blather, I am going to unplug tomorrow. I will check my email 3 times and only read the really important stuff like customer orders. The rest of my time will be doing other things.
I can do this.

Right?

DS 6 DD 8
Dreaming is offline  
Old 09-04-2010, 09:23 AM
 
tinybutterfly's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 9,821
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreaming View Post
Well, I completely suck at doing no internet.
However, tomorrow is another day. I have a TON of things that need doing that do not include using the computer. I will do everything in my power to focus on them.
I just had a discussion with a few women in my business group about how no one reads craft blogs anymore because they can use that time to actually (wait for it) make their OWN crafts. Profound.
If I could tear myself away after just one blog, I'd do it, but one thing leads to another and soon I'm attempting to consume the entirety of the internet in one day.
My kids need me and my business needs me and my house needs me. I'm sure DH would prefer to have me around more. I am TOTALLY hiding out in the computer and it's not serving me. Instead,
I'm getting sore (and sometimes half numb) hands and fingers from typing and using the mouse all day long.

Okay, so after all that blather, I am going to unplug tomorrow. I will check my email 3 times and only read the really important stuff like customer orders. The rest of my time will be doing other things.
I can do this.

Right?
This.

And the bolded parts especially.

Right now I have only checked my e-mail and been here. So...when I get off MDC I need to NOT GO ANYWHERE ELSE!!!

I have soooo much to do this week. Major housecleaning...and if I didn't spend so much time on the internet the cleaning, um, wouldn't need to be so major.

This is my place I escape to...this is how I mainly destress ( this and eating too much. )

I need to find some more appropriate ways to deal with stress.

I HAVE been reading more. That is good.

I did delete a bunch of blogs from my bookmarks. I am thinking about deleting more.

And yes, today is another day.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle." -Plato
tinybutterfly is offline  
Old 09-04-2010, 12:00 PM
 
onlygirls's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Austin TX
Posts: 540
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I can identify with all these posts, just wanted to comment that we are all trying to get away from the internet and we are supporting each other on the internet! Like an AA meeting at a bar!

My problem is that DH works nights and once the kids are in bed, I get SUCKED IN. I stay up too late, have a hard time getting up in the morning, lather rinse repeat.

I need to make myself a priority and get some rest. There are a million things I would rather do with my time, but at night my brain turns into oatmeal and an hour goes by so quickly.

One thing I have found that works for me: I have internet on my phone, so I know when I get an e-mail. I can check my e-mail from my phone without sitting in the office, where I will end up on my butt for hours. Like this morning!

Mama to 3 amazing girls
onlygirls is offline  
Old 09-04-2010, 03:42 PM
 
Dreaming's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Very grateful.
Posts: 3,316
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I had an idea and I plan to implement it.
If I give myself x amount of time once a week to surf or check certain blogs or whatever, at least I'm not feeling totally "deprived" of all that is fun on the internet. Kind of like someone having a cheat day on a diet. If I know I have two hours of uninterrupted guilt-free surfing coming up, I can put the thought aside until it's time (or make a note or whatever).

I have a lot of goals that I'm working toward and none of them really have to do with surfing the web.
I think that by focusing on my goals and getting excited about them, I'm more likely to focus my time and attention on the goals instead of aimless wandering or internet social connections.

DS 6 DD 8
Dreaming is offline  
Old 09-04-2010, 09:56 PM
 
LauraLoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: By the light of the silvery moon
Posts: 3,679
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by onlygirls View Post
just wanted to comment that we are all trying to get away from the internet and we are supporting each other on the internet! Like an AA meeting at a bar!



Ooops.......what the heck am I doing here.....???

Seriously, though, I've definitely limited the amount that I've spent just surfing away without intent. Even though I didn't make it a full week, I feel good. I put a list of all those non-urgent tasks, but things I'd like to tackle right beside my computer and I ask myself every time I look at the computer if I'd be better off doing one of those instead. Sometimes yes, sometimes no.

I did find that I missed a couple of semi-important emails that got buried in all of the junk mail that accumulated in my email in-box. I think it's time to unsubscribe to some things that I never really read anyway......

Laura - Mom to ds (10) and dd (7) "Time stands still best in moments that look suspiciously like ordinary life." Brian Andreas.

LauraLoo is offline  
Old 09-05-2010, 03:40 AM - Thread Starter
 
Smokering's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 8,315
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Echhh, well, I totally failed. I had a good reason though, kinda. DH and I decided to start TTC, so of course I "had to" look up a lot of information about prenatal nutrition and stuff, and that led to me spending two hours on Ravelry last night finding the perfect newborn knitting projects. It took a lot of searching because I wanted to start RIGHT NOW with my lovely new wool, and I only have two and a half pairs of needles, so I could only pick projects that used those sizes. Of course by the time I filtered out all the too-big clothes and the probably-the-wrong-season clothes and the difficult patterns and everything knitted in the round and the ugly patterns, it was too late to start knitting. Oh well - we were at SIL's this afternoon and I got some done, because I couldn't get distracted with the internet. Imgine how much I could get done if I didn't surf the web! And yet, if I knitted for an hour instead of web-surfing, I'd feel like I was being lazy. It makes no sense.

My main problem is that I use craft blogs to get "inspired", but I tend to forget that it doesn't count as inspiration unless you actually follow through by making something. My pretend-inspiration-to-actual-achievement ratio is like, 5000 to one. Not great.

I'm not sure what I'll do about next week, because I do want to be free to look up more TTC stuff and knitting tutes if necessary. But I also need to get ahead - well, less behind - on my articles. Hmm. Maybe I'll make a definite ban on frivolous sites (CakeWrecks, et al), and say I can only use the net for purposeful research purposes. Which does not include checking the "I'm Pregnant" forum to see if anything interesting has shown up, still less "Birth and Beyond" - or the UC forum, when I don't even intend to have a UC. Gah. It's a sickness, I tell you.

If decomposition persists please see your necromancer.

Smokering is online now  
Old 09-06-2010, 03:56 PM
 
tinybutterfly's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 9,821
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smokering View Post
to see if anything interesting has shown up, still less "Birth and Beyond" - or the UC forum, when I don't even intend to have a UC. Gah. It's a sickness, I tell you.
Not to enable you or anyone else here, but...if you are a very curious person who really enjoys learning new things, THAT may be part of the draw of the internet. It's like...a giant library there in your lap! I was one of those kids who enjoyed reading the dictionary and the encyclopedia...knowledge is power and all that.

So...the internet is pretty much irresistable.

I totally failed this week, but will try again next week. I'm not going to get all harsh on myself, cuz honestly it was a stressful week. I am way more upset about the overeating I did, than the internet time.

I have not been on AS MUCH, but I was still cruising and some of it started out innocently enough, but then led to rabbit trails and...I went.

This week is going to be stressful, too.

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle." -Plato
tinybutterfly is offline  
Old 09-06-2010, 04:25 PM
 
Storm Bride's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 25,597
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by tinybutterfly View Post
I wish I was one of those people who CLEAN when they get stressed out.
No joke. If I were like that, my life and home would be a lot more straightforward. Unfortunately, around here, cleaning really means "massive decluttering project", and that makes me more stressed. It's probably the single biggest stressor that makes me hide online.

All that said, I am getting a little more of a handle on my online time, but it's slow going. And, anytime I'm not feelnig 100% (like today - mild cold and achey muscles from a hike I wasn't really in shape for - two days ago), I come back. I also have certain things I have to do online on a daily, or close to daily, basis, so I can't just stay offline during the week. It's all a work in progress.

Lisa, lucky mama of Kelly (3/93) ribboncesarean.gif, Emma (5/03) ribboncesarean.gif, Evan (7/05) ribboncesarean.gif, & Jenna (6/09) ribboncesarean.gif
Loving my amazing dh, James & forever missing ribbonpb.gif Aaron Ambrose ribboncesarean.gif (11/07) ribbonpb.gif

Storm Bride is offline  
Old 09-06-2010, 04:58 PM
 
confustication's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,276
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Oh gosh, I need to jump on here as well! However, DH is away and we're staying in touch mostly by Skype.. so can I leave the computer on and connected... but then ignore the Siren's call?

I really need to focus on the kids and the house- but I do so love my internet escapism and adult interaction!

I think I'll start by limiting my time to kid-sleep time when everything else is done.
confustication is offline  
Old 09-12-2010, 09:56 PM - Thread Starter
 
Smokering's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 8,315
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
OK, last week was kind of a bust... again. I think my problem was that I wasn't really motivated - I felt I should do it, but I didn't want to.

This week, however, I've decided I do. So I made a list of cleaning tasks and cannot surf the internet until I've done one of those per day, plus published a web article and done all my editing (again, per day). Yay!

How's everyone else doing? Should I take it that silence is a good sign?

If decomposition persists please see your necromancer.

Smokering is online now  
Old 09-12-2010, 10:05 PM
 
Baby_Cakes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: NJ
Posts: 9,879
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I like this idea, I SO need to spend more time w/DD and taking care of my house. I think I need to do it in baby steps, though. Logging on once per day would be a good place to start. I think every time I walk past the computer, I need to see if any of my threads have replies, or if anyone updated anything on FB.

I think I might limit my computer time to once per day in the am. I need to do this. I don't really like who I am anymore either.

Carrie SAHM to Nora Caitlyn (5) and Finnley Dax (2) homebirthing, breastfeeding, babywearing, intactivist, doula mama!         
Baby_Cakes is offline  
Old 09-13-2010, 11:26 AM
 
PoetryLover's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,728
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Yeah, I belong here, as well. Every day I have so many things to do and feel buried beneath tasks, and I probably spend much more time than I should online. Every time I see this thread I feel guilty.

Signing out~
PoetryLover is offline  
Old 09-13-2010, 11:34 AM
 
Aubergine68's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: in the soul's garden
Posts: 2,882
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Saw this thread and thought I'd pop on to cheer you ladies on...

I gave up internet for Lent a couple years ago (except for on Sundays). I feel I was able to break some bad habits of choosing the net over my family and other priorities. I put my mission in my .sig on MDC and actually got a couple PMs holding me to task the day I broke my "fast" here! It was funny!

Something I learned was that I crave internet down time when I am tired. When I do get enough sleep, I have the energy to actually live my life the way I want to.
Aubergine68 is offline  
Old 09-13-2010, 11:48 AM
 
goldenwillow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: In the trees
Posts: 1,124
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
I am in as well. We purposely didn't have the internet for 6 or so months and I was fantastic. I too read a ton of books and honestly felt like I was getting small projects done around the house.

See you next week!

'09   
goldenwillow is offline  
Old 09-13-2010, 12:32 PM
 
MichaelsSahm's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 1,411
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Very good idea! I am doing baby steps too though because I have family in Europe who email daily. So maybe check, once in the AM, once in the PM and keep it at that! That or make a cleaning list and keep myself to it and not log on till they are done!
MichaelsSahm is offline  
Old 09-13-2010, 03:50 PM
 
tinybutterfly's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 9,821
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Good luck, everybody!

I am going to go mostly off-line until after Christmas. What I have been doing is not working and I need to break this bad habit!

So...I am only going to check my e-mail a few times a week. I am going to put my laptop away in the closet and I will have to use the icky PC downstairs. It's temperamental and slooooow.

When I come back I may try only surfing on the week-ends and use a timer. Or maybe I can get on a few times a week and for only a certain amount of time each day. I'll have to figure out someway to limit my internet time.

We can do this!

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle." -Plato
tinybutterfly is offline  
Old 09-13-2010, 03:54 PM
 
journeymom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Having a Gilly Water with McGonagall
Posts: 7,417
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Quote:
"No surfing the internet" week, anyone?


I agree, this is an excellent idea.

Edited to add, OK now I've read the rest of the posts. Wow, I recognize (in myself) a lot of what's been said here.

About six years ago I instituted a 'no tv on weekdays' rule, because the tv watching after school was waaayyy out of hand. The kids regularly weren't starting their homework till after dinner and the afternoon was usually wasted. The results of the new rule were wonderful. The kids 'woke up'. I'm so pleased. I really should have applied the same rule to myself/internet.

Smokering, thanks for the idea.

Someone moved my effing cheese.
journeymom is offline  
 
User Tag List

Thread Tools


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off