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I'm so disgusted with my breast! I b/f for just over a year and have been left with small B's/large A's...That's fine and dandy but I was a large C/small D before ever getting pregnant! I want them back...They are stretched and worn out looking..I hate it...it makes me feel so embarrassed. I don't get it...anyone btdt? will they come back...I also weigh less than before pregnancy so maybe that has something to do with it? I weigh 2lbs less than my pre preg weight..surely it wasn't 2 lbs in my breast....Any tips? I have seriously looked into implants...way to risky tho:/

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Moving this over to Personal Growth.

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Can only say that my breasts are about the same size after breastfeeding as they were before. But they are saggy and don't look like they used to, at all.
The have, however, SOMEWHAT improved over time, being perkier than they had been, but not as perky as they once were.

That's normal, though. After breastfeeding, you're breasts are "mature". Before pregnancy and breastfeeding, you're breasts were "immature". Sucks that "immature" breasts are better-looking than "mature".

I would recommend you to check out the website: http://www.theshapeofamother.com/

Maybe it'll help you to start feeling better about yourself.
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I'm curious if you are at a good weight for you and if you work out at all.

My breasts look best when I'm at my best weight and lifting weights a couple of times a week.

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I could have written that exact post. It's definitely been a self esteem drop but I've learned to love them because I was blessed to be able to give my baby the ultimate nutritional start in life because of those now worn out boobies And hiding them in sexy bras always helps! As soon as I weaned I went out and bought some expensive bras (Which I never have done in my life!) Kind of shallow, but it helped me feel better about my body when nothing else could.
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I am in the same place. I went from great DDD's before kids to my now very saggy B's. My boobs don't even get big when I'm pregnant or nursing anymore, and that is the biggest bummer. It is depressing and to be honest I probably will get implants someday once I know for sure that I'm done having babies.

Water bra's from Fredricks are life savers for me. I wear them everyday and they help my ego out a lot. Especially the strapless ones that I can wear under spaghetti strap shirts.

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And hiding them in sexy bras always helps! As soon as I weaned I went out and bought some expensive bras (Which I never have done in my life!) Kind of shallow, but it helped me feel better about my body when nothing else could.
I second this! That helps me to deal with the changes in my breasts.
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getting properly fitted helps. *most* women aren't even wearing the right size bras.

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we women in the bra free tribe would assert that your breasts would actually look better if you stopped wearing a bra- that wearing a bra results in weaker ligaments in your breasts. i also had a very perky DD figure pre baby, and saggy d's now (but the 4 year old still nurses, so they are doing better than they will be after). megadosing sodium ascorbate (a form of vitamin C) can help build collagen, as can a higher protein diet. there is also always thermage- a laser pulse thing performed by a plastic surgeon that encourages collagen formation and firms up skin. there are also herbs you can take if you're done nursing- dong quai (a kind of angelica) and black cohosh help to balance hormones. we're still nursing, so i haven't tried them. usually, herb pills don't work, a decoction, infusion, or tincture is necessary.
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Just wanna say I know exactly how you are feeling.
Right now Im nursing so they are just lovely. Unfortunately I know what I'll be left with when Im done. When I was done nursing the last one I was pretty grossed out and no bra could even make me feel sexy.
I wish implants werent so dangerous.
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I can relate! Is there some kind of non-implant lifting procedure? I don't want implants, but some kind of lift/reshaping might be nice.

 
 
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there is a way to surgerically lift breasts. If you goggle, you can even watch the procedure to see how it's done.

(doing so completely freaked me out and helped me make peace with my Mature breasts!)

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I say that i have got to side with Provacativa. Think about it... If you kept your arm unmoving, tightly wrapped in a sling at all times, wouldn't it makes sense that it would get limp and atrophied? Cramming our ladies into a tight "support system" that stops their natural movement also stopped circulation and lymph flow, as well as allowing the supporting tissue within the breast to get weak. That equals flat, saggy boobs. I know because I have been there. I had some SERIOUS whoopie cushion breasts after breastfeeding my son. When I got pregnant with my daughter, I started going sans-bra. After she weaned, the were saggy, but no where near as flat and limp as after my son. Surprisingly, I started getting firmer and higher about a year ago... This is a good 4+ years without a bra. I was supplementing Iodine(I suggest every woman do some research on the breast health/iodine connection) as well as mega dosing Vit-C, to help with the detox reaction from my iodine supplementation. I had no clue that it boosted collagen production... Maybe that is what did it? I think it was a combo of the two, as Iodine is an especially "feminine" nutrient... It concentrates in our breasts and reproductive organs. I am preggo now, so the boobs are all pumped up for lactation, but I don't fear them going all flat and saggy when I am done. I feel like allowing them to hang as well as supporting them nutritionally is the key... Sure, they are "mature". These aren't my teen-age duds. BUT they don't look bad at all, and they feel great. M husband was amazed that they were actually getting BETTER... He's the one that noticed in the first place. If I could tell a woman unhappy with her breast anything, it would be to supplement and get rid of the boob-crutches.
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I think the sexy bra rec is great and I would also recommend certain lifts (weight lifting) to help build muscle, which will help lift your breasts.

I also think there is zero shame in looking into getting a lift.

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we women in the bra free tribe would assert that your breasts would actually look better if you stopped wearing a bra- that wearing a bra results in weaker ligaments in your breasts. i also had a very perky DD figure pre baby, and saggy d's now (but the 4 year old still nurses, so they are doing better than they will be after). megadosing sodium ascorbate (a form of vitamin C) can help build collagen, as can a higher protein diet. there is also always thermage- a laser pulse thing performed by a plastic surgeon that encourages collagen formation and firms up skin. there are also herbs you can take if you're done nursing- dong quai (a kind of angelica) and black cohosh help to balance hormones. we're still nursing, so i haven't tried them. usually, herb pills don't work, a decoction, infusion, or tincture is necessary.
I'm glad bra-free works for you, but that is definitely not an option for everyone and definitely does not work for everyone.
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I just wanted to add... Going bra-less is probably one of the best ways to love your breast more. As much as they might not be perfectly shaped or perfectly perky, or perfectly politically correct for that matter , I love having my breasts far more than I love the idea of losing them over a pretty lacy bra. The following is a link to really informative article linking bras to breast cancer. (oYo)
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Seconding (or thirding) the recommendation for weightlifting. Lifts that work your chest muscles can make everything look completely different.

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I'm curious if you are at a good weight for you and if you work out at all.

My breasts look best when I'm at my best weight and lifting weights a couple of times a week.
what kind of lifts do you do? would push-ups help? i need to do things that don't involve buying equipment.
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what kind of lifts do you do? would push-ups help? i need to do things that don't involve buying equipment.
push ups would help. You can also start by lifting soup cans, bottles filled with water, bags of apples etc.

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push ups would help. You can also start by lifting soup cans, bottles filled with water, bags of apples etc.
but are you talking about bicep curls, fly, press, tricep, everything upper body?
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I say that i have got to side with Provacativa. Think about it... If you kept your arm unmoving, tightly wrapped in a sling at all times, wouldn't it makes sense that it would get limp and atrophied? Cramming our ladies into a tight "support system" that stops their natural movement also stopped circulation and lymph flow, as well as allowing the supporting tissue within the breast to get weak.
Breast tissue isn't muscle though, so how can it get weak? I just don't see the fibres in the breast tightening up because they get a "work-out" when they aren't supported. If that were true all the naked african tribal women I used to see in national geographic would be super perky instead of really, really not.
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If that were true all the naked african tribal women I used to see in national geographic would be super perky instead of really, really not.
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Breast tissue isn't muscle though, so how can it get weak? I just don't see the fibres in the breast tightening up because they get a "work-out" when they aren't supported. If that were true all the naked african tribal women I used to see in national geographic would be super perky instead of really, really not.
I didn't say it was muscle, for the record. It has less to do with getting a "work out" as it has to do with proper circulation and lymphatic flow. Bras decrease both circulation and lymphatic flow, resulting in tissue that isn't getting everything it need and isn't getting rid of everything that builds up there. that is going to result in unhealthy, poorly toned tissue. There ARE ligaments in the breast that help support the tissue, and if they aren't getting oxygen/nutrients and being cleansed of toxic buildup, then they WILL lose their ability to support the tissue. Movement(jiggling, flapping, wiggling, whatever) IS part of the equation... Breast movement stimulates circulation and proper lymph flow. No you can't "work out" what amounts to a lump of fat and glands to improve it... But you CAN allow it to work in the way nature intended.

As for the National Geographic ladies... This is probably going to come across as politically incorrect, but rest assured I am NOT trying to offend anyone or saying this in any derogatory manner... While we are all human, we are all equipped with different genetics. It may be that the women in those relatively isolated tribes come from a line of women who tend to have breasts that aren't "perky". Which brings me to the point that "super perky" is a social desire, not a reality of all women... Our bodies are subject to wear and tear. I think the ultimate goal should be healthy breasts, not some societal conceived notion of perky sexy breasts. I seriously doubt that those women you reference are dying left and right of breast cancer, and I really doubt that they have as many crippling hang-ups about their bodies as we bra-touting civilized folks do.
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Count me in with the bra-free tribe, I guess. I went from a DD before pregnancy to a lopsided E when my milk came in to a smallish C after DS as about six months old. I stopped wearing a bra then because I found that even my most comfortable, professionally fitted, no-underwire, racerback mesh bras were giving me plugged ducts and made my breasts ache. After a few weeks of feeling weirdly exposed and like I was hanging out or something, I stopped noticing that I didn't have a bra on. And my breasts started to perk up, which I couldn't believe.

I tried to attribute it to the changed composition of my milk or the decreased frequency of nursing, but even after I got pregnant and my supply dried up, my breasts remained perky. Now at 39 weeks my breasts are DD and are still perkier than they were before I had my first baby (even though they currently rest on my huge pregnant belly ).

It's really not that hard to go bra-free, even if you're very chesty, as long as you own a few camisoles in neutral tones. And it feels awesome. I used to get really achy breasts around my periods but that hasn't happened since I stopped wearing bras. The back and shoulder pain I used to get so frequently is gone. And I no longer get weird scary lumps that make me think I should do breast exams more often. Since breasts are giant glands that require constant free circulation to be healthy, this makes sense to me. Of course, I'd accept saggy breasts if it meant I was far, far less likely to get breast cancer. A double mastectomy isn't pretty either...

If this sounds soapboxy, I'm sorry. I just wanted to lend support to the idea that going bra-free doesn't necessarily mean floppy National Geographic boobs. And I agree that genetics surely plays a huge part. Bras are a relatively recent invention, but it's hard not to notice that paintings of nudes from many centuries ago don't show a non-stop display of sagging pancake breasts, so it seems that wasn't the norm even when women didn't wear bras at all.

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Bras are a relatively recent invention, but it's hard not to notice that paintings of nudes from many centuries ago don't show a non-stop display of sagging pancake breasts, so it seems that wasn't the norm even when women didn't wear bras at all.
i wonder why they paint the women as kind of heavy but usually with small breasts? i wonder if that's reality then and, if so, why the current sagging for so many of us? i also wonder if they were just models that had not had babies yet?
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i wonder why they paint the women as kind of heavy but usually with small breasts? i wonder if that's reality then and, if so, why the current sagging for so many of us? i also wonder if they were just models that had not had babies yet?

As much as I adore the standard of beauty from long ago, I think that(as most art goes) is probably an idealized version of what was considered beautiful then. I think that many of those pictures are proportionate... The meatier gal with B or Cs. There are plenty with smaller bosoms too... I guess it was just what was perceived as lovely and what made it onto canvas. You might have a hunch, with the pre-birth woman being used more often for models. Then again, there are quite a few famous nudes featuring breastfeeding mothers or women surrounded by small children. If you want my honest opinion, I think that women prior to the 1800s had better bodies because they had better diets and less toxic exposure. They didn't have DNA that had been damaged by toxins and crappy food. Because of better health, they probably had far more resilient jahoobies.

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Breast tissue isn't muscle though, so how can it get weak? I just don't see the fibres in the breast tightening up because they get a "work-out" when they aren't supported. If that were true all the naked african tribal women I used to see in national geographic would be super perky instead of really, really not.
There are tons of bra-wearing Western women who ALSO have 'tribal boobs.' You just never see them because of the bras and clothing.

I don't know what I think about the 'bra-free will make them perky!' argument (it probably is healthier but perky seems a lot to ask) but I don't think the tribal-boob argument is relevant at all.

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There are tons of bra-wearing Western women who ALSO have 'tribal boobs.' You just never see them because of the bras and clothing.

I don't know what I think about the 'bra-free will make them perky!' argument (it probably is healthier but perky seems a lot to ask) but I don't think the tribal-boob argument is relevant at all.


I had some "tribal boobs"(I called 'em whoopie cushions though)... I know lots of women with "tribal boobs". Bras don't fix that.

I suppose when we braless gals say that we have been perkier since ditching the slingshot(correct me if I'm wrong) we're saying that there has been improvement in their state of sagginess. There are probably tremendously differing degrees of this. I know mine got MUCH perkier. Did they go back to my 18yr old pre-childbirth perfection? Heck no... But they are miles from the flat, pancakey, deflated flaps of flesh that they were when I still insisted upon trying to force them into the shapes and places desired by society. I love my mama jumblies.
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I had some "tribal boobs"(I called 'em whoopie cushions though)... I know lots of women with "tribal boobs". Bras don't fix that.

I suppose when we braless gals say that we have been perkier since ditching the slingshot(correct me if I'm wrong) we're saying that there has been improvement in their state of sagginess. There are probably tremendously differing degrees of this. I know mine got MUCH perkier. Did they go back to my 18yr old pre-childbirth perfection? Heck no... But they are miles from the flat, pancakey, deflated flaps of flesh that they were when I still insisted upon trying to force them into the shapes and places desired by society. I love my mama jumblies.
Ok- the proper drainage and circulation for lymphatic system and tissues makes sense but what do you wear to exercise or just not look "nippley"? Do you count a shelf-bra tank-top as a bra or do you wear these? Very interesting food for thought.
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There are tons of bra-wearing Western women who ALSO have 'tribal boobs.' You just never see them because of the bras and clothing.

I don't know what I think about the 'bra-free will make them perky!' argument (it probably is healthier but perky seems a lot to ask) but I don't think the tribal-boob argument is relevant at all.
Well, possibly not. I just went to look for national geographic african breasts and they don't seem as saggy as I remember from childhood. They actually closely resemble mine at the moment
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Ok- the proper drainage and circulation for lymphatic system and tissues makes sense but what do you wear to exercise or just not look "nippley"? Do you count a shelf-bra tank-top as a bra or do you wear these? Very interesting food for thought.
Camisoles and snug tanks work for me. I'm partial to these. They come in a huge range of colors (with matching panties, if you want them) and are oh-so-very comfortable.

A shelf bra tank top gave me the worst plugged duct I ever had, so I avoid those no matter what.

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