|View Poll Results: Should MDC add a forum for POC?|
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try and be nice, it's my first poll.
a very resounding yes for me ~ if the POCs want it, that is
I hope Mothering creates whatever there is the real need for.
|Originally posted by emmalala
how bout a sticky at the top explaining what the goals are, so POC can set them clearly. I saw many points raised that would be good for both POC and PWOC to see before they post
|cuz its been made very clear that way too many peeps just don't get it and I don't think it would end up serving the needs of POC. I think POC will continue to have their needs as POC AP parents or whatever filled elsewhere.....|
I think there are Parents of Color who need this board here even if ends of failing.
So I guess my final vote is YES.
First off, minority is the majority. Second, most minority don't like that term. Perhaps Marginalized Parenting? But then we could just do away with Single Parents and Queer Parents and lump all the 'minorities' together.
I understand MamitaMala's point. There seems to be so much dissenting opinion over something that seems so mild an issue (a POC/minority board whatever the hell you want to call it to go along with a Queer Parenting and Single Parenting board). I feel like there will ppl who will want to stir up trouble over it (like the insistence that an exclusionary board will be divisive when most mamas here don't want it to be exclusionary) but I don't think that is a good enough reason not to try it out.
I will do everything I can to make it a board that is supportive for MOC. I really feel the need for such a board on this site. I think we'll pull more members in with it (which I know some ppl are saying that they think this place is too big already...). I also do not think it will divide this board. There are already lots of gay and bi mamas here who post in the queer parenting forum and still frequent other areas of the board. The queer parenting forum is a haven for them and a place to get support that they can't necessarily get other places. The POC board will serve the same purpose.
JavaJerri, How come you can't vote? Are you having trouble voting in the polls? For awhile there I was too, but the problem resolved itself. *shrugs*
Besides more than one "minority" has expressed a problem with the use of that word.
Nursing Mother....I'm sorry about the "peeps" think. I tend to write on boards the way I speak and sometimes it doesn't translate very well.
Mamapie, I wouldn't object to the lumping of boards together to make a marginalized parenting forum but others might. I can see an argument being that some topics might get lost. Hmmm.
Of course you can't lump those three together. You can't lump this whole board together and make it one giant parenting issues board either.
If there is to be a POC board, I think it would be great to include in its description POC and other marginalized ethnicities. That would give validation to people like Britt, etc, who are disturbed by the idea as it stands.
This conversation is making me really dizzy.
Riddle me this: how will a POC board serve differently than what we have now? It is a place to bitch and moan about everyone not your color? Is it a place to talk about issues entirely exclusive to POC? Is there such a thing?
|how will a POC board serve differently than what we have now? It is a place to bitch and moan about everyone not your color? Is it a place to talk about issues entirely exclusive to POC? Is there such a thing?|
I don't get what you don't get. Being of color is something that makes a parent and their child different than other parents and children. The problems/ issues one runs into in one's life when one is different in any way are easier and more logical to be discussed with people who have that same difference.
Of course there is such a thing as issues exclusive to a person who is of color that a person who is not of color does not have to deal with nor relate to.
If the Mamas of color want a forum then why would anyone deny it to them?
I remember a poll about a children with disabilities forum. It was only asked to and answered by the people who it would be used by (parents of said children). I answered it too, because DH is disabled. It was decided, if I recall corectly that they would not have a forum for that but that those parents wanting such a forum might try ssrting a "finding your tribe" thread to see who was interested in such a forum.
What I was getting at is that noone asked the parents with kids without disabilities if the forum should be opened for those who would use it........
I am so sad that people can't get along.........
So, though I'm PWOC, I'm raising two *very tan* kids in a wonderbread area. I would love to have a place specifically for issues related to attitudes related to skin color. HOWEVER, this does not mean that I cannot find this support on MDC already, I do and will continue to
P.S. an exlusionary board is a BAAAAD idea, I surf the Dads and the Queer Parenting boards, though I'm neither ( am I in trouble now??). The board should support the Mothering idea of full inclusion.
And for the question at hand. I really don't have an opinion either way. i guess if POC or other minorities feel they need a seperate forum to talk about things then I guess let the have one. My concern is that if there are needs in any group of people that stem from the fact that they are apart of that group i think it would benifit the whole community to learn about these struggles and ways we can gaurd against being artof the problems or ways we can be more sensitive. Does that make any sense? I think we all have a lot of wisdom to offer each other but if all seperate into little groups there won't be a lot of sharing going on. Also topics that might better be discussed in the larger forums might just get stuck in a particular groups forum because that is where the poster feels most comfortable and everyone else will miss out because they don't think that anything in that forum would apply to them. But like I said if that is what people (any group of people) want then i don't mind if they have it.
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