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Thanks insider!

I wonder if Americans will care?!
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Of course!! Still no trace of "weapons of mass destruction"

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As if we didn't already know this stuff - and it was attempted to belittle our intelligence and our patroitism because some of us refused to act blind!
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Wow. They really have no respect for the intellegence of Americans. First trick them, then imply they tricked them, then just state, "okay, we lied" ha ha ha ha ha.

Wish I wasn't going to be the *only* person I know to see this.

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Is someone within the White House going to stop Wolfowitz from spilling the oil, er beans? Does anyone think that the Resident must be itching to shut up Wolfowitz?
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insider: take a look at the current vanity fair (drew barrymore on the cover).... for more about the press and GWB administration.



Note vanity fair is also the one that broke Wolfowitz story...that will be the new one about to come out.

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Holy cow, is someone slipping truth serum into Wolfowitz' coffee? What's up with these statements he is making and why are the rest of the Bushies allowing it?

Truly amazing.

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So, I'm wondering how the people who felt the war with Iraq was a needed thing feel about this.

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So, I'm wondering how the people who felt the war with Iraq was a needed thing feel about this.
Including pro-war (with Iraq and Afghanistan) Wolfowitz. Maybe he is in a spiritual-awakening.

I am trying to be optimistic because under the enormous bag o'lies, one could easily be crushed.

I believe it'll be just like everyone here says: 'oh, we had to get rid of SH...the people are free...' Even Blair is shouting that. If that's all they have, it is piss-poor.
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The link will not work!!!!!!!! Help!!!! I want to read it!!!
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Originally posted by Hilary

Can't help laughing about the fact that eons ago, when I intimated it was all about oil, I got :Puked on by some here, who considered me crass and cynical...

I'm glad you brought this up. I do believe some justice is in order. Or at least, an apology. Via PM, please, people. You know who you are!

The only thing I miss about not speaking to my family is being able to hear them hem and ha about the reasons for invading Iraq. But then, I'm probably not missing anything as the whole 'American is much safer now' and 'We had to get rid of SH' bunk would begin again. I get enough of that here!
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According to the Guardian's ombudsman, the quote, "Let's look at it simply. The most important difference between North Korea and Iraq is that economically, we just had no choice in Iraq. The country swims on a sea of oil," was taken out of context, and misconstrued.
I actually need nothing more than that quote, Mr. Ombudsman.
But fine, go print a re-write.
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NM, I was not addressing you with my comments. Unless you were one of the people who puked on Hilary when she asserted the Iraq invasion was centered on oil.

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FYI, The Guardian has posted its correction:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/correction...971436,00.html

NM, you couldn't do wrong putting Vanity Fair on your reading radar. Some great writing goes on there.
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you couldn't do wrong putting Vanity Fair on your reading radar
Perhaps she was referring to Thackeray's Vanity Fair. :

Indeed, I could see NM going for Christopher Hitchens in a big way.
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re: vanity fair

I was going to say the same thing.... it is a very good magazine (IM0) and they are not particularly aligned to any one politic.

During the last administration, there was oodles of articles that were extremely...make that EXTREMELY unsympathetic, to say the least of William Jefferson Clinton. And Hilary.
Christopher Hitchens seemed to release his spleen regularly over the Clinton Household. He did it so regularly I felt he was sharing in a twelve step meeting for adult children of alcoholics.

They just take a very big hat pin to any flaws in bloated egos..no matter where they are located, DC or NY or Hollywood.

And of course Dominick Dunne is always up to something..

lastly, it was GWB and his administration that posed for Vanity Fair cover for their War Room issue.
Donald Rumsfield said he loved it.

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Even Forbes magazine says:

ANALYSIS-Saudi gas deal collapse makes Iraq major Mideast prize

http://www.forbes.com/business/energ...rtr993255.html

Not that I trust these guys any better than any other analysts, but it's still interesting. I do see that Iraq is very valuable to control from this article, and that there are many rivals for it and always have been

So...hey...if there is dispute over what Wolfowitz said...well, I think that Forbes has an interesting twist?...Joyce in the mts.

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