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Old 08-05-2003, 01:10 AM - Thread Starter
 
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http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/...lynt.governor/

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"Just because I publish pornography does not mean that I am not concerned about the social ills that all of us are," he said.




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Are you shocked by this? If so, why?

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I, personally, consider Larry Flynt a true american hero!!! Don't know if I would agree with his other views (probably not), but his support of the 1st amendment (and not just for porn) is awesome.

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Well, I'm even more worried about Arnold Swartzenager (sp?) running than I am Larry Flynt!
I saw a snippet from a press conference and Arnold couldn't even remember the current Gov.'s name!!!!
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I'm not a fan of Larry Flint's business interests, but I do have a certain admiration for his light-hearted activities during the Clinton witch hunts. He wouldn't be my first choice for political office, but I'd vote for him before I'd vote for a republican.
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marcy, if it's the clip I saw Ah-nold was delivery a heavy handed joke... badly. He said something to the effect of " and the Governor... I forget his name but I'm sure I will recall it..." Hardy har har. Pardon me I have to go lie down from the exhaustion of laughing so hard.
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Yes, I am shocked by the quote.

It would seem that Larry Flynt doesn't connect what HE does at contributing to the "social ills" he claims to be concerned with. I am a feminist and find his particular brand of "art" extremely demeaning to women. It objectifies women and allows men to claim superiority and ownership of women. THAT translates into a breakdown of the family and family values.

I'm not a prude...I'm all for erotica, but Hustler and the other magazines that Flynt publishes are just plain trash and are NOT erotica, in my opinion.

I respect his right to wish to run and I respect his first amendment rights of free speech. That doesn't mean that I don't have the right to be schocked at his way of thinking.

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MoonLissa, I asked more to start a discussion, not to say you are not justified in being shocked. When I posted, the thread had slipped down a lot and no one had replied yet.

I agree with you on his publications being beyond erotica. And I really don't think the legalization of prostitution would help bring down assaults (am I remembering that correctly? Did he say that?) But I also see how he could still be concerned about the problems in the educational system.

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My apologies, Madrone....I did not mean to be so sensitive. This way of communicating sometimes lacks the opportunity to read body language. I read this post early this morning before I was properly awake.

The article I posted was the first I have heard of his bid to run for Gov. I do not yet know about any of this other stances on other issues, such as education or legalization of prostitution (I don't know either if he said that or not. ). It's just very interesting to weigh how seriously he would be taken about his stand on certain issues given what he is originally known for.

Today I heard that Jerry Springer is not going to be running for Ohio Senate because the public would have a hard time separating what he says in his political forum from what might be represented on his show. That made me think about how that might be a similiar situation for Larry Flynt.

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MoonLissa, I might have taken my question the wrong way also and I had thought about that when I asked. But I asked to try to start a discussion and bump up the thread. I understand why your response was a bit sensitive and just wanted to let you know my reason for asking.

People took Jesse Ventura seriously, so I can imagine some people taking Larry Flint seriously also. I don't understand how the recall election will take place, but I really hope that Larry Flint's candidature doesn't divide votes to cause ??? to be in office.

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Good point, Madrone, about Jesse Ventura....I hadn't thought of that. Since I didn't live in Minnesota, I didn't pay much attention to that race. Also, my knowledge of politics has only recently grown. Since I do live in California...I am watching THIS situation much more closely.

The recall is scheduled to be in October, unless Gray Davis wins his lawsuit to stop the special election. At that time the ballots will have two parts; 1.) whether the election of Davis to the Governor's office should be recalled, and 2.) who should be elected to replace Davis. The first part, whichever gets the most votes, yes or no, decides that question. If "Yes" wins then whoever got the most votes in the second question will be the new Governor for the remainder of the term. If "No" wins the first question, then the second part is moot.

It's an interesting process. Yes, I wondered wether the "distraction" of Flynt's running would be an issue. However, I'm certain that he will be taken very seriously by some people. He's not a dumb man, I'm just not certain that he is properly prepared to turn the troubles of this state around. For that matter, really, it's tough to say who is. To me, Flynt is not an option. If the election were to happen tomorrow...I would have a tough choice as yet. Luckily, people are just now beginning to throw their hats in the ring. The next "big one" is tonight when Schwarzenegger announces on Leno what he has decided. I'm not sure about him, either, though I know he is a moderate Republican. I tend to favor moderates of any party rather than extremists either way.

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While I can claim no first hand knowledge of Larry Flynt's magazines , I understand that they oftentimes go deep into their subject matter. Perhaps California needs a governor that looks at more than just the surface of something. :
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____Larry Flynt

____Arnold Schwarzenegger

____Arianna Huffington

OH! the entertainment value alone!

Is Michael Savage running?

At least Arianna and Arnold cannot run for U.S. President. No more CA governors for the White House.
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Jerry Springer is NOT running.

Twenty years of hosting "I had an alien's and my gay uncle's baby" panels have typecast old Jerry.

People do have memories. Too bad he just didn't stay in politics after he was Mayor of Cincinnati, OH.

Guess it was fun while it lasted.
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It will be intresting to see the final list of who all is running for gov. of California. It seems they are coming out of the woodwork. The best quote yet was "I have applied for every other job why not this one " apparently all it takes is $3000 and 60 signatures. This will be fun to watch.

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Originally posted by miriam
At least Arianna and Arnold cannot run for U.S. President. No more CA governors for the White House.
Perhaps I'm just dense this evening (it's been known to happen). But, ....Um....why not? They are both U.S. Citizens....which was my FIRST thought about "why not?". Do US Presidents have to be natural born Citizens?

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Yes.

The Federal Constitution has only three requirements for the Office of the President. Article II, Section I of the United States Contitution requires a residency of fourteen years, age of at least thirty-five years, and a natural born citizen. Oh, yes, they have to be elected by the electoral college, also.

Learn a lesson from history. Three leaders who lead countries they were not born in are Napoleon, Stalin, and Hitler.

A sweeping generalization, yes. But, true, I think so.
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Gary Coleman is running too! Gotta love California....

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I'm just praying that Flynt wins the hearts of some gun toting rednecks ecause his mag is their favorite. Heck, everyone votes for different reasons, lets just pray Arnie doesn't get elected.

For goodness sake, he announced his running on the Jay Leno show! Eeeeeeek.

I'm so sad. Thank god I live elsewhere.

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I think the re-call election process sounds kind of scary. No run-off between the top contenders?! And not a requirement even that 50 percent of registered voters vote to re-call Davis?! 50.01% of the turnout voters could decide to re-call Davis and what if the vote was split greatly between all of the candidates. It would be possible that the governor would be someone who only a small percent of people voted for. What if none of the candidates end up with even 20% of the vote? Or even 10%? I understand why Davis is taking this to court. Was this the result of a petition?

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Yes it was the result of a petition drive. It qualified with 400,000 more signatures than were needed.

This was the third recall petition drive against Davis.

California also has the initiative and referendum format from the days of the Progressive Party a century ago.
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Originally posted by miriam
California also has the initiative and referendum format from the days of the Progressive Party a century ago.
Yes....we are known to be progressive in some ways, but behind the times in others. :

Only registered voters were allowed to sign the petition to recall. The proponents of that drive, Issa and his group, are counting on all of the people who signed the petition in favor of recall will actually VOTE in the special election to recall, first of all and then to vote in a replacement.

I've noticed that all of a sudden there is a flood of people jumping into the race. Likely, that will split the votes between many people, so, realistically, someone with a small percentage COULD take that seat as was noted. Scary? Yes, in some aspects, but even scarier, to me, is to allow Davis to continue to make poor decisions for the State.

I am still learning all of the politics of politics. I kind of like the idea that Arnold Schwarznegger cannot be elected to the White House. I think that allows him to really be interested in the state of the State, so to speak, rather than use it as a stepping stone to the Oval Office. He is also a Moderate Republican, which, until now, I didn't believe existed, except for DH, who does favor Arnold and who knows a LOT more about politics than I.

To get back to the original topic, I think Larry Flynt's penchant for smut trash and shock talk is very likely his motivation for trying for the seat. I think that he may say he has concerns for the social ills of society, but his focus and his actions don't back that up for me. Again, this is very interesting all the way around and I think it's a great way to learn about politics to watch such a situation unfold.

Though....I kind of wish I didn't LIVE in this State since I will be affected by the outcome and have an obligation to vote in the election. If the election were tomorrow, I would have a very tough choice. It probably won't be much easier come October.

SSSOOOO interesting!!!!

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California voters ought to reflect a bit on France's elections of 2002. Jean-Marie Le Pen, of the National Front (a racist political party) had the support of his party and pulled in their votes fully. Chirac and Jospin, among others, were competing for voters. Fortunately in France, there is a run-off between the top two candidates. The run-off ended up being between Chirac and Le Pen, in which Chirac had a landslide victory. The racists that voted for Le Pen previously still voted for Le Pen, but the rest of France voted for Chirac, even if they weren't happy with him.

What if all of the people who like porn vote for Flint? He could end up with the largest percent of the votes and be the governor. Would you think that having Davis in office is even scarier than that?

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