|Originally posted by Jennifer Z
I think the most moving part of the film was the speech he gave to the college crowd.
Was this on the 2nd DVD??? Because I didn't see that.
I'll have to rent it again. I really enjoyed it. (DH
felt he was full of it. I found myself agreeing with most of what he was saying.)
I started sobbing (unexpectedly) when I saw the planes flying into the WTC. The South Park bit was brilliant. I also loved the interview with the South Park artist and what he had to say about the Columbine shooters.
The part that got me angry
was about the welfare mother who had to drive so far and be away from her 6 yr old for so many hours. I just learned that the Senate (?) passed a measure where they would increase the back-to-work hours from 30 to 36.
If Americans were really connected to each other, and really cared about each other (instead of their own nuclear families) then Dick Clark would have cared enough to listen to what RM had to say. Then he would have done something positive about it. He's rich enough... he can afford it.
Maybe that's just really it... we are not the "UNITED" States of America. We are pretty divided and keep it that way. I love Oprah (many people can't stand her) and one of the things she loves to do is highlight her "Angel Network" where ordinary people around the country start doing good deeds to help others. That's what we need more of... more people need to step up to the plate.... because we are all the part of the same tapestry.
I do think we are a culture of fear and paranoia (vaccines being one example) and I loved his interview with Marilyn Manson.
and my favorite part was when Kmart came out the 2nd day to announce they would no longer sell bullets. I was sooo sad for the kids who were shot.
I was about to sit down and write them a letter that I would never shop there again.
T THE FOLLOWING PARAGRAPH IS A DESCRIPTION OF A VIOLENT SHOOTING. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO READ IT, SKIP IT.
Sadly, the same week I saw it (about 2 weeks ago) a father in San Diego (I read this in the LA Times, I don't watch local news) waited in a parked car on a street for his 14-year-old son to come jogging by with his track team. He got out (son smiles and says "Hi Dad!") and when his back is turned, dad shoots him in the back and drives away. The parents were never married. The boy complained in therapy that he was afraid his father was going to harm him and dad was just served with some papers by the sheriffs department to stay away from his son. They were going to have a hearing about whether or not he should turn in his fire arms. The father went home and made a few calls telling people what he did "I just killed ----" and shot himself. I guess he felt that he had no access to his son, the boy was better off dead.
What the hell?
See... I'm not opposed to hunting, etc.... but there are one too many insane Americans (and you won't know until they snap) or slimey Americans (like the kids in the Columbine movie - who went into poor, black neighborhoods to sell guns
I think there needs to be * some * limits on gun ownership - for everyone's safety. But the NRA won't hear of it.
The Canadian house-tour was enlightening... what the hell is wrong with Americans? Why are we so destructive?
|Originally posted by dentente
This film helped me see how dehumanizing this society has become and I do not think it's the video games or the movies that are making it happen.
Is it our babyhood? Our upbringing? The fact that many of us were FF and left in playpens for many hours alone? Left alone to CIO? Does this set us up for rage? Stress-prone? Jumpy? Paranoid? Fearful?Edited to add
: I believe we start out being alienated
by our parents... and that alienation (from self and others) continues through young adulthood. Some people snap (Columbine shooters) many more don't.
THEN we are pumped by TV, society, and now government which doesn't help matters. Public education (we are all taught at an early age to sit still and follow orders and not question) does not help.
Is the "nuclear family" part of the problem.... all of us are so isolated from each other... maybe humans really need tribes ??? And when it is not present in the formative years in healthy ways... normal, good people find their own tribes (MDC, PTA, LLL, NRA...) and other people just go more inward and snap (the unabomber...).
Just my rambling off the top of my head...
|Originally posted by dentente
America remains a mystery to me and I live here.