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I'm glad you got to see the baby, even if it was traumatic. The natural mc was easier for me because I got to bury him or her, whereas the D&C I never got to see anything and that bothered me. We never knew the sex of the babies we lost, so we named them gender-neutral names (Valentine and Gabriel). I got them each a Christmas ornament because I am afraid of them being forgotten. A mother never forgets.

I hope the test results give some sort of clue as to what is going on.
We have a burial spot at home with a grotto with Mary. For my last D&C I demanded to have the baby back after they ran the tests. I had to sign a TON of paperwork and I think they only did it because my doctor is my friend. We also have Christmas ornaments too.

Katie, I will pray for you to heal. I also pray that our Father will bless you with a healthy baby for 2010.

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CherryBomb - I'm so sorry for your loss.

I'm not sure if I belong in the *traditional* Catholic thread, but the other thread seems to have fizzled. I was hoping for some prayers - I'm going to see my priest to discuss the possibility of pursuing an annulment (or declaration of nullity, I guess is more precise). I'm very anxious about it, but also think it really wasn't a true marriage. I hope that's ok to request prayers for this - I know some people are not comfortable with annulment.
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CherryBomb - I'm so sorry for your loss.

I'm not sure if I belong in the *traditional* Catholic thread, but the other thread seems to have fizzled. I was hoping for some prayers - I'm going to see my priest to discuss the possibility of pursuing an annulment (or declaration of nullity, I guess is more precise). I'm very anxious about it, but also think it really wasn't a true marriage. I hope that's ok to request prayers for this - I know some people are not comfortable with annulment.
I shall pray for you, as I am going through the same thing.

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Thanks everyone 2 miscarriages in 5 months has taken a lot out on my body and my heart, so I think we're going to be TTA for 6 months or more. We want more children but we need a break from this.
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Thanks everyone 2 miscarriages in 5 months has taken a lot out on my body and my heart, so I think we're going to be TTA for 6 months or more. We want more children but we need a break from this.
Thats so hard. I hope you'll find time to talk to a priest. I'm sure he'll have some good advice.

I have a question for you mamas -- Have you ever heard anything (Catholic) theologically, that would imply it was okay to call each other saints because one day we will be? I am so disturbed by the homily I heard for All Saint's Day I just want to make sure I'm not being overly critical. We went to a real circus of a Mass with people standing, sitting, and kneeling at all different times, extra prayers added into the middle of the Mass, and everything else was a total ad lib. I'm still kind of in shock ..I need to talk to a good priest about what to do.

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CherryBomb - I'm so sorry for your loss.

I'm not sure if I belong in the *traditional* Catholic thread, but the other thread seems to have fizzled. I was hoping for some prayers - I'm going to see my priest to discuss the possibility of pursuing an annulment (or declaration of nullity, I guess is more precise). I'm very anxious about it, but also think it really wasn't a true marriage. I hope that's ok to request prayers for this - I know some people are not comfortable with annulment.
I'll say some prayers for you Rosehip.

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Thats so hard. I hope you'll find time to talk to a priest. I'm sure he'll have some good advice.

I have a question for you mamas -- Have you ever heard anything (Catholic) theologically, that would imply it was okay to call each other saints because one day we will be? I am so disturbed by the homily I heard for All Saint's Day I just want to make sure I'm not being overly critical. We went to a real circus of a Mass with people standing, sitting, and kneeling at all different times, extra prayers added into the middle of the Mass, and everything else was a total ad lib. I'm still kind of in shock ..I need to talk to a good priest about what to do.
We are all "s" saints, since we are washed of original sin. "S" saints are those that the Church officially recognizes.
Were the extra prayers in the middle of Mass the Litany of Saints, because that is traditional on All Saints' Day.

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Mamas,
For the first time in a long time, I'm looking for new health care providers for our family, and I'm running into a few obstacles. Since I assume y'all are pretty serious about pro-life values, I thought I'd ask how you handle it.
We are really wanting to find a family practice that can see everyone from newborn son to mother-in-law, as well as handle OB/GYN stuff. This isn't a problem in our town, and I've gotten a few recommendations for good doctors that might be AP-friendly, however you define that.
The problem is they all seem to provide other "services" ranging from flat-out saying they do tubals and vasectomies to the much murkier "comprehensive range of family planning." I don't expect to find an NFP-only doctor in this small-ish town, but I'm uncomfortable thinking there might be an abortion performed in the room next to me, if you know what I mean. I can certainly call offices but I don't know where to begin.
How have y'all handled reconciling your pro-life values with finding good medical care that respects your other priorities?

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For the first time in a long time, I'm looking for new health care providers for our family, and I'm running into a few obstacles. Since I assume y'all are pretty serious about pro-life values, I thought I'd ask how you handle it.
We are really wanting to find a family practice that can see everyone from newborn son to mother-in-law, as well as handle OB/GYN stuff. This isn't a problem in our town, and I've gotten a few recommendations for good doctors that might be AP-friendly, however you define that.
The problem is they all seem to provide other "services" ranging from flat-out saying they do tubals and vasectomies to the much murkier "comprehensive range of family planning." I don't expect to find an NFP-only doctor in this small-ish town, but I'm uncomfortable thinking there might be an abortion performed in the room next to me, if you know what I mean. I can certainly call offices but I don't know where to begin.
How have y'all handled reconciling your pro-life values with finding good medical care that respects your other priorities?
have you checked OmSoul.com (One More Soul) for providers in your area? They will list all NFP-only doctors in your area. They will also have contact information for NFP instructors in your area, as well. The instructors, or even NFP diocesan office, may know of NFP-only doctors in your area who are not listed with OMSoul.

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We are all "s" saints, since we are washed of original sin. "S" saints are those that the Church officially recognizes.
Were the extra prayers in the middle of Mass the Litany of Saints, because that is traditional on All Saints' Day.
See that is what I've never heard before. I always learned that saints were people in heaven with God, and Saints were the great canonized ones of course. We only get to be saints once we die and make it to heaven, not at all before. Maybe I'm being too critical though.. there were a lot of other things wrong all the way through.

But no, the prayers inserted were not related to All Saints.. they had a "parish prayer" and some other things things I assume are the norm there. I think next week we might try the Byzantine Catholic church...

sarahsmiles - Usually, I try to find a Dr. where it's not going to matter. I think its harder when you go to a place that does comprehensive baby - adult care. I just moved but my old "primary" Dr. was actually a specialist/internist who mostly dealt with older folks. Then I took ds to just a pediatric practice. We're looking for new Dr's now though and I might have to look into that.

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See that is what I've never heard before. I always learned that saints were people in heaven with God, and Saints were the great canonized ones of course. We only get to be saints once we die and make it to heaven, not at all before. Maybe I'm being too critical though.. there were a lot of other things wrong all the way through.

But no, the prayers inserted were not related to All Saints.. they had a "parish prayer" and some other things things I assume are the norm there. I think next week we might try the Byzantine Catholic church...

sarahsmiles - Usually, I try to find a Dr. where it's not going to matter. I think its harder when you go to a place that does comprehensive baby - adult care. I just moved but my old "primary" Dr. was actually a specialist/internist who mostly dealt with older folks. Then I took ds to just a pediatric practice. We're looking for new Dr's now though and I might have to look into that.
Was it the prayer for vocations? Many parishes are starting to do that lately.

Did you have to listen to the political homily? My Mom called me all in a tizzy Sunday over the "homily" they got.... about how they were all morally obligated to call their senators etc to get the health bill passed... she was even writing a letter to the Archbishop about it.

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Thanks everyone. Dominic will be buried tomorrow in a communal service for unborn babies. Dh went and spoke with our priest this morning, his Mass will be Dec. 13th. Dh talked awhile with Fr and it seemed to help him.
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Was it the prayer for vocations? Many parishes are starting to do that lately.

Did you have to listen to the political homily? My Mom called me all in a tizzy Sunday over the "homily" they got.... about how they were all morally obligated to call their senators etc to get the health bill passed... she was even writing a letter to the Archbishop about it.

No it was a nonsense prayer about "help us to be welcoming". DH said the whole thing meant nothing real at all - I tried to close my ears because I knew I would get too worked up and it wouldn't be good for me. Our was not a political homily.. it just wasn't a Catholic homily. I won't say more because I don't want to edge into detraction. We just need to find somewhere else to go this Sunday.

Katie - will keep up the prayers for you.

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Just popping in here with a question.

I am a convert and am at a loss for how to emphasize the advent season with my 3yo DD. She is crazy about "Mama Mary" and "Baby Jesus" but other than that I'm at a loss.

Can you share some of your family traditions so I can get some ideas?

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Oh! I think advent is the easiest for little ones to understand -- Jesus's Birthday! NAK at the moment. Just going to share a couple general Advent ideas...Hopefully we can all share a lot on this topic as the season approaches.

-We do an Advent wreath. I want to start lighting it each night after dinner (hopefull right before family Rosary) and sing and Advent song while you do. O Come, O Come Emmanuel is pretty traditional Advent song.

- Set up an empty manger and slowly have the people an animals arrive -- Either from around the room if possible, or just one at a time. Some people set up a creche and let the children put a piece of straw in for every good deed during advent to make a nice soft bed for baby Jesus.

-Save true Christmas songs until Christmas! (Silent night should be heard for the first time on Christmas Eve)

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For Advent I just ordered this:

http://www.chinaberry.com/prod.cfm/p...2101/inv/15381

We also have an Advent spiral, Waldorf style but it isn't as "daily" as I think my 4 year old needs at this point. I would love the Willow Tree creche set but it is just too $$ for us. Maybe I will see it on sale this coming spring and can get it for next year.

I would love some good craft ideas for each week of Advent. I want this year to be really special for my DD.

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Just popping in here with a question.

I am a convert and am at a loss for how to emphasize the advent season with my 3yo DD. She is crazy about "Mama Mary" and "Baby Jesus" but other than that I'm at a loss.

Can you share some of your family traditions so I can get some ideas?
Advent is always a lot of fun! We have done Advent calendars where you read a little each day about Joseph and Mary's progress, till the last day when Jesus is born. Setting up your own Nativity is always a good one too, add each piece.... On Christmas you add the baby Jesus and the angel or star, my kids love it. I have to schedule who gets to put what in.

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We also do oranges and chocolate coins in the kid's shoes on St. Nicholas' feast day (December 6). Kids love the advent wreath
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Oh, the memorial service was very nice (and emotional). It was the first time in the 10 years dh and I have been together that I saw him cry (full on cry, not just tear up). I think that scared our 8 year old, though. But it was good, I'm glad it went and very grateful to the Sisters for doing this.
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My sister just separated from her abusive husband. She said that NOT being angry is actually MORE painful. We are encouraging her to pray for comfort and focus on the needs of her children. Our Father never gives you more than you can handle so have faith that he has a larger plan for you.

I divorced and went through the annulment process. I found the annulment process to be very healing. I feel mine was done right...it was very lengthy and I had to meet with a Church appointed therapist to get me to open up more than I did in the paper I wrote answering the questions ( over 10 typed pages) plus spend time with the priest. I came to learn that I WAS a good wife but that both partners have to be present and want to be married especially in the way that God wants HOLY Matrimony to be. You cannot carry the whole wagon. This process will help you learn more about yourself and help you heal.

On a positive note...I met a man that was REALLY meant to be my husband. God answered my prayers to give me what I needed...it has been the best 9 years of my life.

I wish you much love and healing.
this was beautifully written!!

I also agree that the annulment process helps so much.

P&L, are you the woman I 'spoke' with last year?? I met a momma here and shared my story with her via email.

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I'm doing well

I went out to lunch yesterday with a lady from my new church which was great. I'm starting to think about Christmas gifts -- which will have to be slim this year. I think I'm going to buy some Mystic Monk coffee which is roasted Carmelite Monks and totally delicious and send that out with some hand knit coffee mug cozies. I'll send Christmas cards and photos and that will probably be it.

I'm also planning our Advent and Christmas decorations. I need to see if I can find some dairy free chocolate coins for St. Nick's day. I might also get him a children's nativity that we can put out slowly. He won't get it this year(18 months) but next year he will.

I don't know where any of our Christmas decorations are -- not like we had that many -- so I'll be crafting mostly everything. I'm going to make some snowflakes for the windows, foil stars for the tree and maybe some foil icicles... any other ideas?

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we're good - trying to plan our advent and Christmas plans. I'm a convert, and don't honestly know much about the little things of the church - like advent wreaths, etc so I'm really having to look into things.

I'm trying to find some type of advent wreath with electric lights - DD is crazy about candles and I worry about her burning herself.

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I'm trying to find some type of advent wreath with electric lights - DD is crazy about candles and I worry about her burning herself.
Just an idea - what about those battery operated tea candles? Get votive glasses of the appropriate colors, put them in a wreath of some type, and use the battery-operated tea lights? I found a pack of six at Walgreens for $5. I've also seen them at Target and all sorts of other places, near the regular candles.

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we're good - trying to plan our advent and Christmas plans. I'm a convert, and don't honestly know much about the little things of the church - like advent wreaths, etc so I'm really having to look into things.

I'm trying to find some type of advent wreath with electric lights - DD is crazy about candles and I worry about her burning herself.
Leaflet Missal actually sells electronic advent candles that fit into a regular advent wreath.
What I do is actually use the large 7-day candle holders and I bought some electronic pillar candles from michaels when they were on sale. The candles sit on either side of the nativity scene.

Additionally, the wise men begin their trip in the farthest room of the house, and Mary and Joseph begin traveling from the nearest bedroom the week of Christmas. The wise men move once a week, and Mary and Joseph each day. By Christmas, Mary and Joseph are at the stable. Our Lord makes his appearance after Midnight Mass, and the shepherds show up Christmas morning. And the wise men, of course, arrive on Epiphany.

Lastly, our Christmas decorations don't really go up until Christmas eve. The tree goes up on St. Nicholas' Day, but only has the white lights, and maybe some pink and purple balls. We put the rest of the ornaments up Christmas eve. The Christmas dishes don't come out until then, either. And everything stays up until the day after Epiphany (sometimes the weekend after, depends on what's going on!)

I hope that gives you some ideas!

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PatienceAndLove - that actually is exactly what I was looking for! Now to see if I can find them on amazon {I think leaflet missal sells on there}. I may look at Michael's too - they are only 3 blocks away and I have some discount coupons for there.

It's very interesting about the Christmas decorations - I grew up setting up & decorating everything normally the day after Thanksgiving, so waiting until Christmas Eve is a whole new concept for me. I like the nativity idea - I'm still on the hunt for a child-safe nativity to use this year as DD has broken a lot of my religious items.

I'm curious - what if anything, do you normally do for St. Nicholas Day? I read about doing small gifts & candy in shoes/stockings, but I wonder if DD would understand it. She knows the story of St. Nicholas well thanks to the CCC video about him.

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frugalmama - We do (or are doing this year - didn't bother in the past since ds was so young) oranges and gold coins in a shoe. I'm going to surprise DH this year as well and just set up a little display in front of the fire place with one of each of our shoes, full of gold coins and some extra oranges.

This may be helpful to some if you haven't seen it. It is [U]Around the Year with the Trapp Family[/U] by Maria von Trapp (the family the Sound of Music was based on). It has some really great ideas for Catholic family tradition, both that she brought from Austria, and others she learned of when they came to America. There is a table of contents and its organized by the liturgical year.

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Hey all, I've just lurked on this thread so far (loving the Advent and Christmas ideas, by the way!), but just had to share something that happened at Mass on Sunday: Just a couple of minutes before we went up for Communion, my 4-year-old looked up towards the ceiling and said (rather nonchalently), "Hey Mommy, I see angels." When I asked what they were doing, she said, "Praying." Isn't that awesome??? It made me cry (in a good way, of course).

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I'm still on the hunt for a child-safe nativity to use this year as DD has broken a lot of my religious items.
How about a Little People Nativity set? It's plastic but it is kid proof!

http://www.toysrus.com/product/index...LAID=107515107

I'm Orthodox, but just popping in to give this link (and the idea about the battery-operated tea lights).

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Hi all!
Inchbyinch - that is really sweet! It's amazing what our children see isn't it?

Thanks for the great ideas P&L! I might do that with our nativity set this year.
I am having a very challenging week. My little girl had surgery on tuesday and the kids have all been super difficult today and yesterday. I am also exhausted and emotional. Add that to a few other things going on, and I am a mess! I am glad that I planned a field trip for the kids for tomorrow. On monday we planned this and I had no idea how much I would need it - we are going down to my great-grandparents church. We will attend morning mass and then go see my grandfather's headstone (that we haven't seen yet) and make a rubbing. After that I might take them for a walk by the river near by. I think that mass is the only thing that will get me thru the day!

please pray for me. I having a hard time with a few things that I can't discuss here. And pray that my daughter doesn't do any damage to her stitches while she plays!
thanks everyone!

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