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#31 of 38 Old 01-25-2011, 05:53 PM
 
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I guess I have other comments, but they would have to be presented in Religious Studies since Spirituality is not for debate.


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OP, I would yield to your husband on this one without guilt.  All the best to you!

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Peace to you, Trigger.  I will be supportive as best I know how based on my world view, and I trust that you will do the same.

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AM - I was just reminded that a friend of mine asked me, about a year ago, about Church teaching and her tubal ligation. (She's battled cancer twice, and has a host of other health issues that make bearing another child a very serious risk to her life; plus two small children, one of whom has become extremely difficult due to some psychological issues.  All of this has put an enormous strain on her marriage, and on her own emotional & physical well-being.)  Part of my repsonse was

 

In any case, you obviously did what was best for you, for your physical and emotional health, and for your family.  And that is strictly between you and God, in my opinion.  I truly do not believe that God wants us to bear children at the expense of our physical/emotional health, and especially at the expense of our families' well-being.  "Being open to children" and "Having the physical and emotional capacity to bear children" are two very different things, in my opinion, which the Church needs to acknowledge.
 
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Annette, I can't say what your priest might say, and I haven't read all the responses, but I just wanted to chime in that my very best friend's mother went through a similar situation after her 7th child. She was 40 or 41, and my friend was her 7th child..she nearly died. The doctor told her she should not have another child under any circumstances but she and her husband were very faithful Catholics. She went to the priest in tears and he told her that it was his belief and that of the church that she was released from any guilt or sin because her life was in danger. She actually had her tubes tied after that. My friend (her daughter) and I were recently discussing this because I told my friend I wanted as many children as the Lord would give me, and she told me that story.

 

That was 35 yrs ago..surely things haven't changed. I cannot imagine that putting your life in danger would be acceptable to the church!

 

I'm so sorry you are struggling with this, and I will be lifting you up in prayer.

 

 

 

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. This was just so outside my plan. My plan was to just accept babies if/when they came.

 

I think that sometimes our greatest growth comes from things outside our plan. I'm not catholic, but from a different tradition altogether. I'm wondering if there is a prayer or ritual that would help you come to accept that what is best for your children and marriage requires a sacrifice of your plan.

 

I deeply believe that our children come from god and that we have a sacred duty to them. I believe that nurturing our marriage is one of the best things we can do for our children.

 

All that requires you staying alive.

 

You've been though so much, and you are so very, very loved. May be this is God's way of letting you enough that you've done enough in this area. That you've completed what he wanted of you in this way. You've graduated from this lesson. You did accept babies when they came. You've been blessed with 6 living children, and the heartache of 3 that didn't make it. It sounds like that was God's Plan, and that you were willing. Now it sounds like God's Plan for you to let go and trust that he loves you, even though your body is completely done having babies. May be the peace for you can come from accepting that Your Plan and God's Plan weren't exactly the same.

 

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May be the peace for you can come from accepting that Your Plan and God's Plan weren't exactly the same.

 

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brilliant words.  something I need to be reminded of at regular intervals. 

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