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I'm sure you guys have all hashed this out before and are possibly sick of talking about it. I read a web page on it that was pretty interesting though. It sounds like it happens on the Solstice. I highly doubt it would happen and, like the page I read says, I highly doubt humans would be able to come together for peace and unity to avoid it.

 

I always hear people say the Mayan calendar has predicted other things that have actually happened. I'm wondering what those are. And I guess I just wanted to discuss this in general. People made a big deal of it a couple years ago and then it was written off (especially after that stupid movie came out lol). But is anyone talking about it now?

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Maybe spirituality was not the place to post this? I consider myself agnostic but I wasn't sure where else to put it.

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Here's a long thread that might be helpful...

http://www.mothering.com/community/t/490943/astrology-changes-2008-2012

 

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HI I just wanted to post and keep you company. I am thinking the predictive nature of the mayan calander is related to the writing of people like Calleman http://www.calleman.com/content/13_heavens.htm. He said that the final day of our time was two months ago. To much of it is people trying to make a name for themselves and make money. The underlying thread of this conversation is very spiritual and interesting though. That our existence on earth (and the universe) is cyclic. Most indigenious peoples of the world have always said that time is not linear, and that this age is the age of darkness. As for unity consciousness I would say that something cosmically unprecendented would have to happen. What would it take to make humans realize that the inner path that yogis, prophets, shamans have always directed seekers tword is true. The ego has overrun the mind, and impaired our true potential. Our western fragmented left brain dominated world view is a symptom of this disease.  I don't think all will be revealed on the majic day, but I don't think that anything can stay the same indefinitely. I have open arms to a "changing of the guard". We are mothers, what can we offer the future if not a vision of the better world our chidren will live in.

 


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I really agree with everything tri31 just said. I honestly think that we are at the end of an age, and a new age is unfolding...not that we're approaching the end of the world, but, rather, that we're approaching "the end of the world as we know it" (to quote that REM song).


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Hi I am just to curious? Have any of you read about this? In my previous post I did not mean imply I was not actively interested in 2012.  I recently stumbled on the work of Dr Dieter Broers, he is a biophysicist who has been studying electromagnetism and it’s measured effects on biology and consciousness. If you are not sure if developing a daily meditative practice is really you? Check this out.

http://www.realitysandwich.com/2012_and_electromagnetic_effects_consciousness

I am so rocked by this idea. And they are all merely ideas; it is what your consciousness resonates to that is transformative.  When I meditate I feel a tangible energy source I am merging into. Sounds weird, but during the times the sun is actively throwing  flares, there is a energy resonating, like a pressure wave pulses. A little more than a year ago the Chandra x-ray telescopes actually picked up a massive “explosion” originating from the galactic center. Christine Page has an astrology book out about the galactic center and the divine feminine, I can’t wait to read! http://astrology.about.com/od/reviewsandrecommendations/gr/2012Page.htm

 

 

 


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Wow tri31! Thank you so much for sharing this work by Dr. Broers! I just finished my first reading of it but want to go back and read it all again when I can.

 

One thing that really resonates with me is the fact that creativity and intelligence expand when we are in states of chaos -- that this is when lots and lots of new connections are formed. I'm excited about the new mental connections that will be formed during the chaotic periods of 2012 -- not just the connections in our own minds but also the connections between many and diverse people.

 

It's really exciting to me that Broers is encouraging people to begin meditating now to prepare for these approaching changes. I just felt led to begin meditating some months ago...and became really serious about it in about the middle of October.

 

Nothing is impossible -- no combination of connections is beyond the realm of possiblity. I've been realizing that I'm intensely and continuously connected to even those people from whom I've felt a need to physically/emotionally/socially distance myself. I'm not exactly feeling any sense of urgency about calling these people up or anything -- I'm just very much feeling alive, inside, to the endless possibilities regarding what may happen...and I'm feeling the joy of learning to open up so that I'll be able to ride and embrace whatever waves are about to come coursing through my life...


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Wow tri31! Thank you so much for sharing this work by Dr. Broers! I just finished my first reading of it but want to go back and read it all again when I can.

 

One thing that really resonates with me is the fact that creativity and intelligence expand when we are in states of chaos -- that this is when lots and lots of new connections are formed. I'm excited about the new mental connections that will be formed during the chaotic periods of 2012 -- not just the connections in our own minds but also the connections between many and diverse people.

 

It's really exciting to me that Broers is encouraging people to begin meditating now to prepare for these approaching changes. I just felt led to begin meditating some months ago...and became really serious about it in about the middle of October.

 

Nothing is impossible -- no combination of connections is beyond the realm of possiblity. I've been realizing that I'm intensely and continuously connected to even those people from whom I've felt a need to physically/emotionally/socially distance myself. I'm not exactly feeling any sense of urgency about calling these people up or anything -- I'm just very much feeling alive, inside, to the endless possibilities regarding what may happen...and I'm feeling the joy of learning to open up so that I'll be able to ride and embrace whatever waves are about to come coursing through my life...



 

I love your observations! Especially the prospect of allowing for new neurological connections! Babies are born with massive potential for neural pathways, which are naturally pruned down as new connections are reinforced. Easy for them, but hard work for us. Through meditation, the quite mind becomes the builder. I think this is key, to allowing the next evolutionary step in consciousness, to unfold. We must allow ourselves to examine the world of knowledge, with the eyes of a child.

My husband turned 50 this year. It is quite a slap in the face to see the clear distinction between him, and some of his friends, that have started to assume an “over the hill” attitude in life. It is that attitude that seals off new learning. Habit and unexamined belief (dogma) are catalysts for mental entropy. It's a chioce we make, and maybe that is the phase of the cycle we are in, as we make our beliefs about the world manifest. I love the lyric "wake up to find out, that you are the eyes of the world". Each of us mired in our own experience and only through embracing ones self, and ceasing to condemn ourselves and others can we begin to heal, and step forward. 


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I think this is key, to allowing the next evolutionary step in consciousness, to unfold. We must allow ourselves to examine the world of knowledge, with the eyes of a child.

This is so true! And it's such a wonderful journey -- one that I was not even ready for until last summer, at age 47! Of course, I now see this state of readiness as very much attributable to the readiness of the Universe and the Universe working in me. And I see it much more as me getting into alignment with this Great Spirit or Universal Soul and flowing with the energy, and not so much as me "changing the world." I do realize, though, that as more and more of us get into alignment, the world is going to be different simply because we are different.

 

About the contrast between your husband and his friends -- I recently had a much older woman tell me that, when she was my age, she went through a sort of "searching" phase (this seems to be kind of how she sees my practice of meditation) -- but now that she doesn't feel she has so long to live, she just wants to stick with what she already knows. I do understand that there are different phases of life, but I never want to lose my openness!


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By the way, tri31, I've been meaning to tell you how much I love your quote from the Upanishads. I've just recently started reading them and I'm looking forward to reading more.


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I thought this artical was really relevent to this discussion. http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html

What is the dark age, in the cycle, ancients have been refering to? I believe that consciousness as we a familiar with it today is weighed heavily tword an unbalanced fixation on fear. Have any of you heard of the research done George Gerbner, or seen the documentary based on it?  http://meanworldsyndrome.com/

 

This is truely the threat humanity is facing. In defeating it, by becoming aware that we are infected by it, we see the promise of a new cycle. I am way to excited for 8:30 in the morning!


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Subbing! I am hoping for amazing world peace, but a big spiritulal guru of many I know has said that he predicts a huge solar flare to wipe all electric out and will lead to panic and crisis. I don't beleive him or atleast don't want to. He predicts this in November this year.
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This is great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA0nqbmHPoM

They had him on Gaiam Tv recently, too. Simply put, Earths' position in space and time initiates the end of one world cycle while heralding the beginning of the new cycle. When we look at the changes taking place in our world, it is only the unsustainable ways of living that are collapsing, based on our unsustainable ways of thinking. So, we are not talking sunshine and lollipops. Modern people fervently believe in our mistruths, and discovering yours will really impact you. This cycle ends this winter, but it is no end time! There is so much work to do, especially if our leaders keep trying to piece together the last centuries unusable parts. The end of the world is just a mass delusion people use as an excuse to avoid taking responsibility for the work ahead.


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This looks really good! I'm going to go back and listen to his whole talk when I have more time, to get more ideas about how to prepare.

 

I must say, though, that one time when I was feeling really anxious during my meditation time, I became impressed with the knowledge that I am connected to the Universal Soul, which is connected to -- or is the Source of -- everything I need and everything my family needs. I'm connected to everyone and everything everywhere! We all are.

 

So, while I think it's good to prepare in the ways that we can, the best preparation is to just get in tune with our connectedness...and this may very well be what he is encouraging us to do in the video. I look forward to listening to it!


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I must say, though, that one time when I was feeling really anxious during my meditation time, I became impressed with the knowledge that I am connected to the Universal Soul, which is connected to -- or is the Source of -- everything I need and everything my family needs. I'm connected to everyone and everything everywhere! We all are.


 

This is our emergency plan. I feel strongly that everything will happen just as it is meant to happen.

 


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I love this topic and couldn't resist sharing.

"Mental attention of all types can stimulate neuroplasticity, the ability of the brain to change its own wiring, including stimulating new and different neurotransmitters, building circuits, and enlarging and shrinking brain centers. Meditation is one of the many ways that a focused mind can change and rewire the brain."

 

http://jonlieffmd.com/blog/neuroplasticity-and-meditation-self-directed-neuroplasticity-new-default-mode

 

 


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I'd started this article a few days ago and found it very exciting...and I just made it back today to finish it. How exciting that we can reshape our brains by meditating!


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Hi Susan! It is so reassuring reading your posts. Sometimes I feel like no one understands where I am coming from. Then I read your posts about meditation and I am aware of how silly I am behaving. The community vibe I am seek, is broadcasting to a different frequency. Thanks for reminding me we are never alone. 

 

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And I thank YOU for introducing me to so many new ideas and resources! I'd never even heard of the Reality Sandwich website 'til you posted a link to it a while back.

 

About community -- I think this is something I seriously need to visualize, too, and keep meditating on until it becomes a tangible reality in all our lives. I know we are all connected, and I\ve had many experiences of having our needs met through others -- and am seeking to be more aware of the ways in which we can also be there for those around us -- but the in-real-life, day to day community living is something we're taking a long time to grow into.


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Hi everyone! It's May already! This weekend marks Wesak, which in terms of the esoteric calendar, is a very (if not THE most) important full moon of the year. It signifies the birth, death, and enlightenment of the Buddha. At this time, if we are attuned to the energies of this day, we can open ourselves to an amazing current of upliftment. I read that at Wesak, the Planetary Hierarchy of Masters and Teachers gather to bless the Earth and its humanity.

 

The Mayans were pretty focused on the movements of Venus,  two predicted transits begin May 20th. Here is a cool little blurb I read last week.

http://astrology.about.com/b/2012/04/24/the-mayan-walker-says-big-date-is-may-20th-2012.htm

That will be followed a rare transit of the Sun and Venus around June 5th-6th.

 

Not everyone is as fixated on the sun as I am, it is indeed true that the poles are shifting ahead of the maximum.

http://idealab.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/04/scientists-stumped-by-suns-asymmetrically-reversing-magnetic-field.php

 

It’s important to keep it in our awareness that Dec 21 is just one of the dates indigenous people are looking to. Like a landmark, as one finds their way to a new destination.  The question is what are we paying attention to?


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Oh, I really was hoping someone would want to discuss this! It’s interesting to me. So a few weeks ago, I posted that the May 20th is noted in the Mayan calendar. And yes there was an amazing eclipse.  Did you know that the cosmic winds ramped up around that time? The sight below seems dedicated to pin pointing an external event.

http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/05/21/an-interplanetary-shock-wave-swept-past-earth-on-may-20th/

That’s cool, but, if you read about the Mayan concept of the fifth sun you will find it is the dawn of a spiritual sun.

 “As such, it will come to be felt to be even closer to us than the physical sun.  Just as our physical sun has a solar wind, a spiritual sun has a divine wind. Perhaps the most noteworthy quality of a spiritual sun is what we can call its esoteric self-awareness.  Its self-knowing subjectivity lends both vivacity and authority to the wind that blows inside our spirits. As it births itself inside us it seduces us into harmony with itself. This sun is expected to form the internal organizing principle of a major new cosmic cycle in human culture.  In so doing it will manifest its own spiritual cosmology and become the fountainhead of all living poetry and culture.” 

I welcome any of you who are interested to read this. What are your spiritual musings?

http://mayanfifthsun.wordpress.com/2010/04/14/the-definition-of-the-maya/


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I really loved "'The Definition of the Maya" and feel especially empowered by the way the wrter differentiates between capitalism and free enterprise.


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Just today, I felt led to start implementing some advice from James Redfield's book The Celestine Prophecy about focusing my love on the food that we're growing.

 

My husband and older daughter have been gardening for a few years now, and it seems that something generally happens to totally destroy or deplete a huge amount of whatever foods they planted. And it suddenly occurred to me that I could help by really learning to love and develop a relationship with these growing foods.

 

It was so spiritually renewing for me to sit out there today, and just pray in the tongue that I learned many years ago when I was an Evengelical Christian.

 

So many of my beliefs have changed since that time -- but my core spirituality really hasn't. It has only deepened. I realize I'm going to learn so much just by learning to celebrate life with these other living beings who are part of who I am just as I am part of them.


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Hello everyone! I see that it's less than a week away now! What are everyone's thoughts?


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Nobody has any thoughts?

 

I don't know what's gonna happen, I don't know if things will be good or bad tomorrow.  I'm pretty sure the world isn't gonna end (I'm Christian, it says in the Bible that we won't know when it will end).  I've been feeling antsy for several days now and an downright nervous about tomorrow, though I didn't think I was any kind of person to worry about all those "end of the world" theories.  My older son has been "antsy", too, and my toddler has been very clingy, though I'm pretty sure I've hidden my antsiness from him, so maybe there is something in the air, so to speak, that we can subconsiously feel.  I just hope it's all good.


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I live in the southern hemisphere where it is coming into the end of the 21st of december. So far a completely normal uneventful day. I wish you all safe and happy 21st of december days.

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I've been reading and listening to what some actual, living Mayas are saying about it. I figure they know their own calendar(s) better than some Hollywood producers just out to make a buck. The Mayas have been saying loud and clear that this doesn't herald the end of the world -- but the end of an age and the beginning of a new one. So I'm not really anxious about the end of the world, which I couldn't do anything about at any rate; I'm really just praying to be fully aware and in-tune because I've heard we'll experience a period of intense awareness for about eight minutes around midday tomorrow, the 22nd.


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Around midday Mexican time.


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In case anyone's interested, here is the link to a video of a talk given by the Maya Ac Tah.

 

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I have also been rereading the article at the following link, which tri31 posted a bit up-thread. I highly recommend it to anyone interested in the Mayan prophecies.

 

http://mayanfifthsun.wordpress.com/2010/04/14/the-definition-of-the-maya/

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