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Oh and its not that I am ignoring recent posts. I really struggle with Catholicism. It confuses me so I need some time to digest and think about it.

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Were virgins living anywhere in the Herodian Temple ca 1 CE? Temple virgins seems so --pagan. I dunno.
I dunno either. Interesting topic for when I have more time and access to a decent library. Though, would it be 'virgins' a la vestal virgins if she was a child? Assuming they kicked her out at 12 bec. she started menstruating.

I do know that various early Christian writers were fairly obsessed with celibacy/chastity (like Origen, who is the first recorded mention of this text). Don't know if it's related to this account, though.
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I think I have this story in my book The Other Bible with commentary. I will go look it up.

Been very busy today or would have done it sooner...had to get dd to airport in a blizzard. I still don't know if she is really on a plane but I think she is!
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Remembered I have this online source as well:

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/infancyjames.html

This proto-gospel is dated to mid 2nd century.

Much commentary, here is a snippet:

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According to Hock, a major development found in the Protevangelium of James is this: "Mary, the central character, is no longer a virgin in the ordinary sense of a young woman of marriageable age, but a virgin of extraordinary purity and unending duration." Hock goes on to argue: "Indeed, Mary's purity is so emphasized that it becomes thematic and thus answers the fundamental question which guides the narrative: why Mary, of all the virgins in Israel, was chosen to be the mother of the son of God. The answer: no one could have been any purer. Thus Anna transforms Mary's bedroom into a sanctuary where she receives no impure food and is amused by the undefiled daughters of the Hebrews (6:5). When she turns three years of age, these young women escort her to the temple in Jerusalem where she spends the next nine years in absolute purity and is even fed by the hand on an angel (7:4-8:2). When, at age twelve, she is made the ward of Joseph, she spends her time spinning thread for the temple with the other virgins from Israel (10:1-12:1). When she is later suspected of impurity, she passes a test and has her innocence proclaimed by the high priest (15:1-16:7). Finally, when she gives birth to Jesus, two midwives certify that she remains a virgin (19:18-20:11). In short, it is through her purity that Mary fulfills the blessing which the priests made when she was only one year old: that she might be blessed with a blessing that could not be surpassed (6:9)."

Cameron also sees another theme in this infancy gospel: "In using and expanding the infancy narratives, the Protevangelium of James has carried forward the aretalogical tradition of the gospels, including in the traditional enumeration of heroic feats the birth of the holy family. The bucolic scenes in the narrative of Jesus' birth recall other stories of the birth of 'divine men' in antiquity, and are part of that tradition of Christian propaganda which sought to demonstrate the superiority of Jesus among heroes and gods."
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OK, got my book. As I suspected, it says scholarly consensus is the story was probably written by a Gentile (formerly Greek pagan) Christian. Which might explain, IMO, the sketchy imagery of the set up of the Temple and its inhabitants.

At the time of its writing (which was pre-Catholicism, HMC), the reputation of Mary was in question. Some even thought she was made pg by a German/Roman solider named Panthera.

Obviously, then as now, some were taking the idea of her virginity literally, and some (many gnostics) were taking it metaphorically.
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Huh. It's interesting to me how I can objectively read about stuff I "don't believe in," yet take it so personally when it's talking about stuff I "do believe in."...

On a different note, SQ, I was thinking about the question you posed regarding which parts of scriptures liberals chose to believe in and not...not a liberal, but was thinking it's like how some people take the NT headcovering passages literally and others not. And some people are quiverfull and others not. I don't think people who disagree with my stance on those issues are more or less Christian than I am. Or, for example, I believe in infant baptism...my dd is getting baptized tomorrow, BTW, but many others believe in believer baptism. That's fine, I just read scriptures differently from them...so I guess I'm echoing what Daryl said...it's more our interpretation of it, even as "conservative Christians," SWIM? I believe God is merciful to our human misunderstandings and misapplications of his Word, b/c one thing I know for sure is that none of us have the corner on complete knowledge/understanding of it...

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OK, got my book.
What book is this from?
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Oh, as I said above, The Other Bible.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...041054-1017437


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The Other Bible is a unique sourcebook of essential selections from Jewish Psudepigrapha, early Kabbalah, Haggadah, Midrash, Christian Apocrypha, and Gnostic scriptures.
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Thanks! Does the book say which version of the text you are talking about? What language is it written in? Who translated it?
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Early manuscripts of the book exist in Greek, Syriac, Armenian, and later, Ethiopian, Georgian and Slavonic. No Latin ms survived the condemnation of this book in the West. There are 130 extant early Greek ms. Cameron (The Other Gospels): "The entirety of the P of James is steeped in the language of the Septuagint, the [4th cent BCE] Gk trans of the Jewish scriptures."

The trans in this book is taken from Documents for the Study of the Gospels, 1980, by Cartlidge and Dungan. It does not say which ms they worked from, but I imagine a variety of early texts.

There are variations in the texts. For ex: Mary's age at conception varies from 12-17 yrs.
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Regarding the theory of Jewish temple virgins, there are certainly males dedicated to service mentioned in the OT - 1 Samuel talks about Samuel remaining with the priests in the service of the Lord. Was there a similar activity/vocation for young women?

Interesting is 1 Samuel 2 22: "Now Eli was very old. He heard all that his sons were doing to all Israel, and how they lay with the women who served at the entrance to the tent of meeting." Were these women prostitutes? Exodus 38:8 "He made the basin of bronze with its stand of bronze, from the mirrors of the women who served at the entrance to the tent of meeting."

I have read discussions about the Hebrew terms zonah and qdeshah/haqdeshah that introduce lots of speculation about whether there were women attendants hanging around/living in the temple who were either prostitutes or 'holy women'/virgins/whatever. I haven't seen a definitive treatment of the subject anywhere. Do you know anything about these?
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Do you know anything about these?
Oh, do I! Don't want to derail the thread too much :LOL

But the things you quote were pre-exile were they not? I think the Jews learned their lessons about Asherah and her qudesha during the exile. Surely they wouldn't have made the same "mistake" into the 1st cent CE? :
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Oh, do I! Don't want to derail the thread too much :LOL

YOU? Derail a thread? Pshaw!

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Just wanted to say g'day and g'night at the same time and mention that I felt blessed by our pastor's sermon today. He was talking about Philippians and how Paul talking about not thinking about things that are not pure, good, etc. (sorry don't have the reference in front of me) was an encouragement rather than an admonishment and how saying "What am I thinking about?" can stop you and make you reflect on this and take corrective action if you need to. "The world" seems to have so many ways our thoughts and minds can be dragged down, even socially acceptable ways like reality TV, tabloid news, etc., and we can stop now and then and say "what am I thinking about?" and find that oasis and work on our thoughts being closer to God.

Sorry so rambling and not sure if that made sense, but it really spoke to me.
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tracymom--

you know, i do not know the verse you are referring to but i keep thinking of 'take every thought captive'.

when you get a chance to look it up will you post it and more of your thoughts? you've piqued my interest....
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oohh...thanks for that, Tracy! For some reason, I wasn't getting any email reminders...

This thread and our discussion has totally been on my heart all weekend, it's weird... I got a great quote this am from Bible Study....I'll have to hunt it down so I say it right!

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Is it Philippians 4:
8Finally, brethren, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is of good repute, if there is any excellence and if anything worthy of praise, dwell on these things.
Dh and I have been really talking about this lately ... not necessarily this verse, but the whole concept of being a "holy nation and peculiar people" unto God and what that looks like. We've been talking about how so much of today's TV is basically trash and we need to start filtering what we let in. Music isn't an issue as we listen 99% of the time to Christian/Messianic music anyway, but TV is much harder (especially for me). Not that I'm one for censoring, per se, but I definitely have been feeling that so much of what I am watching is just wasting my time and could be spent on much more "worthy" stuff - from reading the Bible, to reading books, sewing, cleaning (), exercising, writing letters to friends ... you get the picture. TV is such a crutch for me, though, to fill in those quiet moments of life (I was a latch-key kid from late elementary school and often used the TV as a companion between getting home from school and my mom getting home from work - usually only an hour or so, but enough to get me hooked).

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Is it Philippians 4:
8Finally, brethren, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is of good repute, if there is any excellence and if anything worthy of praise, dwell on these things.
Dh and I have been really talking about this lately ... not necessarily this verse, but the whole concept of being a "holy nation and peculiar people" unto God and what that looks like. We've been talking about how so much of today's TV is basically trash and we need to start filtering what we let in. Music isn't an issue as we listen 99% of the time to Christian/Messianic music anyway, but TV is much harder (especially for me). Not that I'm one for censoring, per se, but I definitely have been feeling that so much of what I am watching is just wasting my time and could be spent on much more "worthy" stuff - from reading the Bible, to reading books, sewing, cleaning (), exercising, writing letters to friends ... you get the picture. TV is such a crutch for me, though, to fill in those quiet moments of life (I was a latch-key kid from late elementary school and often used the TV as a companion between getting home from school and my mom getting home from work - usually only an hour or so, but enough to get me hooked).
Yes, MLW! I think it must be that; I'm in the choir and never have my bible with me where I could mark the passage during the sermon. :

ITA with the filtering idea. I think it just goes along with being critical and discerning and saying "is this a good thing?" We're bombarded with so much information all the time, and most of it is not in God's interests, it's for somebody's bottom line. It's hard to shut it all out and "dwell on those things."
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Please pray for this man and his family.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp..._mi_ea/iraq_10
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Hi,
It great to see all you christian mamas.I got born again (dont y'all hate the way that phrase is used sometimes) some years ago, and having Christ has definetely made all the difference in my life... God bless
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welcome, chio...

yes, i DO dislike the way the term born again is abused and stereotyped but sadly that is the world we live in so i try to be sensitive, like you, when using it.

glad to see you here. there are some really neat women in the MDCommunity and I hope to see you around more and get to know a bit about you.
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welcome, chio...

yes, i DO dislike the way the term born again is abused and stereotyped but sadly that is the world we live in so i try to be sensitive, like you, when using it.

glad to see you here. there are some really neat women in the MDCommunity and I hope to see you around more and get to know a bit about you.
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I used to not like to hear "born agian" overused, but as of late I didn't know that there were so many people that called themselves christian yet reject the bibles teachings and the Jesus. I guess I assumed when people said they were christians I jumped to the conclusion that they put their faith in Jesus and believed the bible.

I'm on day 27 of reading my Bible through. I haven't missed a day yet. I'm trying to read with an open heart to see what God is teaching. When I was reading about the Israelited complaing after they left Eygpt despite the fact they witnessed so many miracles, I thought how true that was of myself. Time and time agian God has proved himself faithful, yet I complain.

MLW, that is so true. I let to many things fill my mind that shouldn't be there. :
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Hi, I just found this thread...dh and I are Christians and I am an MDC member, occasionally posting but mostly reading...I'm feeling a little worn down and I hope it is not too presumptuous to ask for prayer requests for my dd on my first visit to this thread.

DD is 23 mos and has been quite healthy and happy all her life but has had chronic diarrhea since late October and we are finally scheduled to see a pediatric gastroenterologist next Tuesday to try to figure out what is causing it. She still breastfeeds a lot, but also eats some solids. At first they thought it was yeast but the probiotics suggested to us did not resolve it. Then they ordered tests for parasites and the more common bacterial infections that can cause this type of ongoing thing. All the tests came back negative but they found many red blood cells and many white blood cells in her stool. They thought, based on this result, that it might be either a food sensitivity OR some weird infection that sort of "flew under the radar" of the standard tests they'd ordered, and suggested elimination diet (eliminating dairy and gluten). We've been doing that for just over 3 weeks (me too, since she still nurses) and we've noticed slight improvement in her appetite for solids and her sleeping habits, but the diarrhea continues.

Of course it could be food related and we haven't eliminated all we need to, or it could be an infection that is treatable and then her little gut will heal...but my mind just jumps to the worst fears sometimes, like it is going to be something really awful. So I would appreciate very much any prayers offered on dd/our family's behalf, that she can feel well again...thank you so much.
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((weegift and dd)) How sad for your poor baby and how sad for you. I prayed for you guys and for the drs to find answers. My mom spent a week in the hospital b/c of something similar...they never did find the cause, said it was stress (which is probably was, she has a *really* stressful job situation). She has found a lot of help in taking folic acid (yep! weird, eh? )...I pray that you find answers...

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welcome chiomama.

l, <>< wife to my sweetie, proud mama to 3 cubs, 2 who clw & 1 that i i ep for . baby was evicted early by induction due to severe pre-e/hellp syndrome
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prayers for yall weegift.

since she still nurses, have you also eliminated darity and gluten in your diet?

l, <>< wife to my sweetie, proud mama to 3 cubs, 2 who clw & 1 that i i ep for . baby was evicted early by induction due to severe pre-e/hellp syndrome
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also, if you ladies would be so as kind as to keep my family in your prayers. dh seems to be dealing with yet another kidney stone, and it has been giving him lots of pain.

also i need some dental work done. i am gonna hafta get my wisdome teeth cut out, sicne they are giving me such trouble. i cant take thie pain of it much longer. the cloves arent working for long-term numbing. my mom also has recently had testing for a heart defect. please pray that she has nothing major.

also a dear friend has likely got cervical cancer. she will be having another biopsy soon. she is very scared. PLesae pray for His peace, and that she does not have cancer.

l, <>< wife to my sweetie, proud mama to 3 cubs, 2 who clw & 1 that i i ep for . baby was evicted early by induction due to severe pre-e/hellp syndrome
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I'm a Christian who mostly lurks the boards looking for encouragement because my almost 3 and a half year old son refuses to give up breastfeeding. I am ready to stop, and have been trying to wean him for a LOOOONG time but he just tells me he still needs it. No sense in arguing with that! My Dh is getting a little unsupportive because he thinks I am ruining him and being selfish because I don't just cut him off cold turkey, and he is WAY too old to nurse (and wake me up almost every night by coming into our bed). My older two boys nursed for 12 months and 14 months so this extended nursing is new to me. I have enjoyed it and will miss it when we are done, because DS#3 is our last baby, but I am ready to stop.

I am not a home birthing, cloth diapering mommy, but have respect for those who do. I'm not judgmental, but some of what I read here is so different from what I'm used to, it is freaking me out a little (polyamory, eating placenta, etc. I wish I hadn't read that over the weekend when I was suffering from food poisoning or a bad stomach virus!). I love to lurk the boards and have appreciated the encouragement in my experience of nursing a walking talking preschooler!!

Glad to see this thread!

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