I really appreciate these responses. I hope I am not sounding critical toward any of you -- I don't have a problem with your patriotism. It is just the additude that a Christian *ought* to be patriotic that bothers me, because I can see another side to it. I appreciate your validation NM.
Gossamer -- what an amazing experience for you. Of course, the freedom we have in the US would astound most of the people in the world. And it does. And I am very grateful for these freedoms, and grateful that my life is not worse than it is.
RM -- I think what you are saying is that patriotism is the conviction to carry on with the calling of our Christian forefather's who had an amazing vision for this country. And that it is also a sense of pride in their accomplishments, and admiration for their efforts, and gratitude for what they left us. The problem I see is that I'm not convinced the way they went about it was best. I would not give up what we have now that we have it -- but I'm not convinced the prices paid were worth it. War, mainly. And the disregard for native american life. While we can be grateful for what we have, I'm not convinced that reflecting on the process for that acheivment should be prideful. And what about the exploitation, the violence, the capitalism that maintains our contemporary "right" to freedom?
Again, I'm not suggesting we give up our freedom. I'm saying that perhaps we ought receive this gift more humbly.
|It is the ideal that people strive for and if we ever accomplished that ideal -- we would be better than all the rest.
See, to me, this sounds like a another tower of Babel. Or at least like building a house in the sand. Our efforts as Christians should be toward spiritual ends. The ideal country just can't happen in this kingdom. But it is happening, and it will be complete. However, it is not a place on a map that we can draw boundries around.
Jesus did not come to affect political change, as much as the people of his time would have liked. And as persecuted as they were, the apostles and early missionaries did not "fight for religious freedom." They didn't argue their right to worship God or to preach salvation. They just DID it. They knew that time was short, worldy establishments ever-changing, and that their priority was singular and spiritual in nature.
EnviroBecca -- Yes, I like what you said. And I also struggle with the boundries by which we define "family," wishing to broaden them. Though, that is OT.