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Jennifer-does your happiness depend on that cup of coffee? What would happen if you didn't have it? If a physiological reaction (ie: cravings and withdrawal) didn't ensue, is it an addiction?

There's a big difference between routine and addiction. If it brings you joy, you look forwards to it but your day and well being doesn't hinge upon it then you aren't talking addiction (I know you know this.) If you would be in pain without it, couldn't function without it and would be paralyzed with fear at the idea of skipping it then it is an addiction and a crutch.

I look forward every day to making my tea. I blend nettles, alfalfa, red raspberry leaf, red clover and whatever else I feel like. I heat water and pour it over the herbs. I put them in the window sill, covered to infuse. I love watching the water change, I love seeing the sun shine in on them, I delight in the anticipation because it tastes so good and feels nourishing. If I didnt' get to make it I would be sad, but it wouldn't physically affect me. I would move on and look forward to the next day when I could stick my hands in the bags of herbs again. No biggie. It's not an addiction, it's a a routine.
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So to me, this is both scary and exhilirating at the same time. I want to figure out how to ultimately rely on myself, to really embrace that it is only me, and that there is no limit. But how does one do that??

I believed my kids had problems with dairy too, and we never drank milk. Ocassional yogurt and cheese, but i NEVER gave them milk to drink. I finally decided to try raw milk, and they started drinking that the past several months. Then, this winter, both my kids got strep throat. I couldn't help but wonder if it was related. So, from what you are saying, that is just a story, something that I am attaching myself to. So what do you do? Is it about just letting go, and believing in our bodies and understanding that our bodies do go through illnesses, and then they right themselves again?

Uccomama, when you were suggesting those elixirs to FF, are those flower essence combos?
I can't answer how you do that! I'm working on it though. For me a big part of realizing this was to understand that my body did not have negative reaction. My body was simply out of balance and letting me know. When I began to be thankful for the "symptoms" instead of angry or upset it was a huge change.

When I realized that there is no healing if you don't touch the emotional level that was another lightbulb moment.

What I did was started looking for patterns and releasing them. I started seeing imbalances and working to bring light to them. In the beginning it is about honoring the pain and cultivating practices that nourish the body. You eliminate habits that are destructive. You realize that all physical manifestations are ultimately results of emotional imbalances. Instead of taking medications and drugs to suppress symptoms you let them play out-supporting the body by simultaneously working on the emotions.

Here's the crazy thing....your body was an egg in your mother who was growing in your grandmother. That is a fact. The energy patterns, beliefs and experiences of you GRANDMOTHER let alone your mother are a huge part of who you are today. Same for your kids. IF you experienced ways of believing, thought pattern etc OF COURSE you passed them down! Your experiences are not only encoded in their genes, but in the genes of THEIR children unless you can work to release them.

So to answer as closely as I can...it's about *trusting* your body. It's about loving yourself. It's about making a choice to live in joy and have gratitude for the experience. If you have a commitment to health then you have to look inside yourself. Understand what the symptoms are telling you! Next time you have a cold or flu see it as your body cleansing. Know that if you support it and don't micromanage you will be healthier for it. If you see a rash or infection...change your thinking. It is not something to be fought. It is a sign that your body is working perfectly. I believe you often don't see things until the end stages. The body has ALREADY launched it's defenses and is purging. IF you cover it up with creams and ointments you are not only preventing the body from doing it's work, you are telling it that it is INCAPABLE of doing it and that you have no faith in it's process.

Uccomama was recommending star elixirs and a combination. I have a call into the company as we speak!
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What a fabulous thread, I'm so excited to jump in here!! This is all so fascinating to me, but don't have the time right now to post more. BBL!!!!!!

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That is wonderful! I love when stuff like that happens. So are you going to get it?????
Heck yeah! I'm ordering the essences for my son this week and will add it on to the order.
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but who is to say that all "addictions" are misdirected? what is an addiction?

my dh would say that i am a coffee addict - i have my cup of half-decaf every morning. it could easily be full-decaf if my coop had a better selection of decaf beans. part of my "addiction" i suppose is coupled with the goal to make a good cup of coffee (it always is so hit-and-miss). so i experiment - with beans, with grinding technique, with bean-water ratio, and so on. [in truth, my ds makes the best coffee i've had yet though he knows nothing about selecting beans!] are you suggesting, then, that this "addictive" behavior has something underlying it, besides just plain ol' curiosity?
My personal definition is doing something over and over again (compulsively) that you know is destructive or not in your best interest. But I'm by no means an addiction specialist--or even an intellectual. Personally, looking at my addictive behaviors, I have found what I posted to be true. Seeing what the behavior is really seeking (comfort is a big one for me) and then finding other ways to fill the need that ARE in my best interest. The addiction is a learning tool to show me what my soul really wants. My experience is with the light addictions--not any hardcore ones which can became huge monsters. For someone addicted to tobacco or cocaine my thoughts are probably overly simplistic.

It sounds like your coffee experiences are very pleasurable and you have rituals around the process. It involves your senses. You like educating yourself about it. It involves family and bonding. Some teasing too. It doesn't sound addictive to me from what you said--sounds very healthy and rewarding. So I'm not suggesting that your behavior is addictive. Your DHs opinion doesn't matter here--course mine doesn't either. If it doesn't feel destructive then it is a non-issue IMO. But I would *think* that there is something besides just plain ol' curiosity behind it. Sounds like you get a lot more out of it than that.
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wow this thread is going so fast in some really facinating directions. i have been thinking alot abt healing and their for disease as physical or spiritual ailments. I also want to let you know that everything I am saying is comign from a perspective of Judaism. This is where I am at right now: Obviously physical manifestations of disease are at their core spiritual - everything in this world is. But that does not mean that the solution cannot be physical. In Kabbalah there is a concept that some things happen b/c of an "awakening from above" and others from an "awakening from below." (Some events are put into action by G-dly instigation and others by human instigation.)So I beleive that the physical can influence the spiritual as well as that the spiritual can influence the physical. A good example is that someone is depressed and she starts doing aerobic exercize to get her happy hormones flowing. As a result she is a happier person, kinder, eats healthier, more sympathetic to others. or she could have begun her healing process with prayer/affirmations or flower essences and arrived at the same place. I read a biography of this couple who were real tzaddikim (hebrew literally righteous people, it means morelike saints but i dont really know what a saint is so.... ) But the husband was constantly toiling on behalf of others and all he ate everyday was a pita and some garlic. His energy source was either spiritual or b/c of his mature soul he was able to gain benefit from just those meager foods.

With regards to all the "issues" we have and whether or not we inherit them and how to heal them. I would think (and i have to look into this) that if someone healed the emotional core of their own dis-ease then it would be pretty easy to help the physical manifestation to "pass" from both the parents and the children.
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but choosing to do something physical comes from somewhere. You are in alignment enough to make the choice to better your experience. How many "depressed" people can't exercise? Can't muster up the will to do anything?

Our physical reality does of course play a huge part. But what is it that you are calling into your experience?

From *that* perspective you and I aren't really saying different things, and it's a chicken vs. the egg thing. I believe that it always starts vibrationally and how it *proceeds* depends on how we align.

Exercise releases endorphins, lowers cortisol, uses adrenaline...these are biochemical processes to be sure. It does make you feel good. But you know that. What is it that gives you the drive to feel good? Why do you choose to go for a run? Clearly it is your body's compulsion to feel *good.* Which ultimately comes (from my perspective) from your being aligned and choosing something beneficial.
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i dont think it contradicts but i think that is where free will comes into play. That voice saying "come into alignment" is always there as is the voice saying "don't come into alignment." This seems way off topic though.

But i think the spiritual action that we take are more powerfulthan the physical ones for sure.
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Just wanted to say I'm loving this thread!

I've been feeling drawn to it for weeks, but it looked SO long and daunting . . . so I waited until I had some time to really sit down and READ for a while, and can I say, wow! Thank you, everyone!

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That voice saying "come into alignment" is always there as is the voice saying "don't come into alignment."
I'm not sure I agree. We have an innate drive to balance ourselves. I think our inner voice will always be pushing towards alignment.
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I just had a really cool idea!

so, I always felt bad that I had to wean my oldest son before he was really ready. He is now 3.5 with absolutely no interest in nursing, but I know that he still has those issues left over from being weaned before his time.

Well, it just occured to me I could probably put just a drop of my breastmilk in some water for him and he would get the vibrational energy of the breastmilk which would be comforting to him.

What do you ladies think? Is there a better way to do this?

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there are several remedies made from milk....so it's definitely not an idea without merit! I have made my milk into a remedy for ds when he first presented with gut issues.

In fact many people do things like this with various bodily fluids known as "auto-nosodes." I got an email from the great great grandson of the founder of homeopathy with a recommendation to do this for this year's flu. I didn't, but know a couple of people who did in my school. They did great, actually.

LTB, hat would be a great thing to do. You can easily find instructions on potentization online. You may also look at flower essences for the same issue.
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Firefaery, maybe you can help me figure out what flower essences would be helpful for my son.

I had a lot of nausea and depression when I was pregnant with him. Then I had a traumatic, extremely painful 30+ hour labor with him. Four hours of painful and horrible pushing. Poor little guy. I've been giving him Star of Bethlehem (actually I just started) and I also tend to give him some of what I take, since I figure he tends to receive a lot of my energy anyway.

He is very emotionally sensitive. He is 3.5 and I feel bad because I don't think he had sufficient time to be my "baby" before I had DS2. My 3yo has always been very high-needs. He was just a very fussy, colicy baby. Very particular, hardly ever satisfied. He is still awfully particular about his food. Everything has to be prepared "just so" or he will refuse to eat. As you know, he has lots of food intolerances and sensitivities. And yet all of these little symptoms don't really begin to touch on the thing that worries me the most. He just seems like such an old soul. I've always felt so guilty about him-- like I really screwed up with the whole pregnancy/birth thing with him. He's so serious and soulful, like he's been through a lot or something. I guess I'd like to see him be able to be more relaxed and playful in general.

I'm sorry I don't feel like I described the situation well enough. Mostly he is a very happy, normal, well-adjusted child, if incredibly serious. We joke with each other about what a "square" he is!! He will be watching TV and say things like "Dragons can't REALLY fly. Can they Mommy?" With a rather disapproving look on his face. It's adorable, and part of it is just who he is, but it's just this sense that I have that there is grief and loss there that hasn't been healed all the way.

Oh, he is also prone to getting frustrated with his little brother, and he likes to take his frustration out by hitting things, but there isn't a LOT of frustration. Just every once in a while. And he is odd, because he is usually a very quiet, mellow child, except sometimes he will just yell/holler/scream randomly for no reason-- almost as though he is purely releasing steam or wanting to hear his own voice or something. It's annoying.

He is such a sweetheart though. He gets embarrassed SO easily; I really feel for him. When he gets embarrassed he says "Mo-omm!" or "Da-ad! Stop talking!" And holds his hand out to block our face from view. Or he goes and hides behind a chair or the sofa or something. But even with his sensitivity, he is plenty assertive, and tells us to do things whenever he feels like it: "Stop singing mom. Mom, be quiet. Mom, you can't have any." Etc. We respect his assertiveness but we don't let him boss us around either.

Gosh I love him. Thanks for your help.

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In case it makes a difference, he is also a Moon in Capricorn.

And he really, really has meltdowns with any kind of pain or discomfort. Just crying and screaming and can't handle being sick or hurt.

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...voice saying "don't come into alignment." This seems way off topic though.
That voice is called fear.

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So lately he's been asking for Willow and Star of Bethlehem (DS1) and they seem to be helping him a lot! He seems more confident, relaxed, and playful just in the last day or so.

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he sounds like my dd a bit.
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I have used Rescue Remedy recently and in the past but I am looking for some suggestions. I would like to be more confident and feel at peace with my decisions (less need for approval), lose the excess weight and really take good care of myself in all areas.
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firefaery you pm box is full.

can you get me the contact info for your student homeopath friend? as soon as you can?

if anyone else has it can you pm it to me?


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How's that for synchronicity? I jsut checked my email and you should have the info in your box. I'll be back later to catch up on the thread. Busy, busy, busy round here.
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FF,

I would love the name of your homeopath friend? The one I had been seeing no longer has time.

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Question,

Are flower essences easier to use than homeopathy? Are there any dangers in selecting the wrong essence? Is there a reference guide to essences that I can get to read up? Also, are they used mostly for "acute" things or can they used for chronic things? For example, if you've been feeling a certain way for a long time, rather than just, say, last week?

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You asked if there was any danger to choosing the wrong essence, and I was wondering, what people think if there is any concerns with choosing the wrong homeopathic remedy. I mean, I know it won't hurt you, but I was seeing a homeopath, who had given me a constitutional remedy, that seemed to help, but then he gave ne a higher dose, and after that I felt worse. And then shortly after that, I got sick, and took a long time to get better, and I felt like maybe it was my body's way of clearing the remedy from my system. But I don't know. I mean, I really know that the wrong remedy can't hurt you, but I read someone who posted here before that said if you take a wrong remedy in a higher dose, like the kind a homepath prescribes, that it can stamp that on your constitution. Is there anything to that?

I want to go back to the homeopath, because they thought maybe I need a different remedy now, like maybe the first one uncovered some layers.

I'm really interested in learning more about the flower essences, and am going to read up on that.
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Question,

Are flower essences easier to use than homeopathy? Are there any dangers in selecting the wrong essence? Is there a reference guide to essences that I can get to read up? Also, are they used mostly for "acute" things or can they used for chronic things? For example, if you've been feeling a certain way for a long time, rather than just, say, last week?
I think they are "easier" to use than homeopathy. There is absolutely no danger in using the "wrong" essence, it will have no effect. There are plenty of references, and I will defer to FF on books. Here is a link to some informative charts which can help you select an essence. Essences are an excellent tool for releasing long-term states.

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Thank you for that link!
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Is there one for teething?

Or for the frazzled mother of a teething infant?

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Is there one for teething?

Or for the frazzled mother of a teething infant?
They are probably two separate issues, but DH tends to recommend banana for teeth issues. He might also suggest a mouth/jaw combo that includes Pineapple, Silversword, Snapdragon, Aquamarine, Beryl, Green Jasper, Jasper from Idar-Oberstein, Kunzite, Krypton. It is actually a combo he developed for animals, but works perfectly well on humans too!

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You asked if there was any danger to choosing the wrong essence, and I was wondering, what people think if there is any concerns with choosing the wrong homeopathic remedy. I mean, I know it won't hurt you, but I was seeing a homeopath, who had given me a constitutional remedy, that seemed to help, but then he gave ne a higher dose, and after that I felt worse. And then shortly after that, I got sick, and took a long time to get better, and I felt like maybe it was my body's way of clearing the remedy from my system. But I don't know. I mean, I really know that the wrong remedy can't hurt you, but I read someone who posted here before that said if you take a wrong remedy in a higher dose, like the kind a homepath prescribes, that it can stamp that on your constitution. Is there anything to that?

I want to go back to the homeopath, because they thought maybe I need a different remedy now, like maybe the first one uncovered some layers.

I'm really interested in learning more about the flower essences, and am going to read up on that.
Yes, there is danger (so to speak) in using homeopathy improperly...but IMO (which is *only* my opinion) it is hard to create that danger.

Flower essences are much gentler, much easier to use and just all around lovely. The founder of essences meant for them to be used by individuals rather than "practitioners." Right there that tells you they are pretty accessible. I am a practitioner, and most clients just don't want to take the time to learn the different systems. That's where I come in.
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They are probably two separate issues, but DH tends to recommend banana for teeth issues. He might also suggest a mouth/jaw combo that includes Pineapple, Silversword, Snapdragon, Aquamarine, Beryl, Green Jasper, Jasper from Idar-Oberstein, Kunzite, Krypton. It is actually a combo he developed for animals, but works perfectly well on humans too!
Lol-yep, separate issues! Good recs, uccomama. I also like walnut for transition/protection and chamomile for the irritability.
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Question,

Are flower essences easier to use than homeopathy? Are there any dangers in selecting the wrong essence? Is there a reference guide to essences that I can get to read up? Also, are they used mostly for "acute" things or can they used for chronic things? For example, if you've been feeling a certain way for a long time, rather than just, say, last week?
THey are for both acute and chronic issues...but undertand they are for the EMOTIONAL issues. They really don't specifically address the physical. They can, however change your attitude and the way you deal with physical things. While most illness is a result of emotional issues there are things like car accidents or external trauma that they don't treat....but are very useful in the recovery process.
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