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#121 of 211 Old 11-16-2009, 07:34 PM
 
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We try really hard not to shop at chain stores, but sometimes it is unavoidable. We have a new Hannaford in our town that is LEED certified and has a beautiful produce and natural foods section, so I enjoy going there. We had a Mom and Pop drug store that we did get our prescriptions at but it was run out of town by Rite Aid so now we have no choice about that one...

We stay far away from Walmart for many of the same reasons as the PPs, and the one in our town is just plain disgusting.

There is also only one health food store in our town that we are not too crazy about... the family that owns/runs it are part of some sort of religious group and (save one employee) are pretty rude...UNTIL they found out we have a Jack Russell terrier...they have a female one and have been trying to find one that is not fixed so they can have puppies, I said sure so now they say hi to us every time we go in and know our names (and our dogs name) oh well, I feel like at least we've made friends with them so it's not as awkward shopping there.

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I won't shop at Wal-Mart or go to any OB who offers Botox (apparently Botox and pap smears go together in my town).

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Fry's Electronics: supplies are forced to except less then their invoiced prices (I work for a supplier). They don't negotiate for a lower price, they just won't pay the amount on the invoice
Not to mention bait-and-switch. Lately my dad has been trying to find a new monitor for his computer and they had a particular model on the showroom floor he liked, but TWICE IN A ROW they were "out of it" and tried to sell him something else. This is the exact same reason our family has never shopped at Best Buy; they were notorious for this tactic in the '90s.
Now all we have left are Sears and Micro Center (which I think is a mom-and-pop shop; correct me if I'm wrong).
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No Walmart here in germany (seems the germans didn't tolerate the way they did things here and wm lost too much money so they shut down and went away a couple years ago).

I "boycot" (purchase other products if available/cost efficient) Nestle, hfcs, most modern pharmacuticals (prefer homeopathy as much as possible), well baby checks (just an excuse to get you in there to get vax's), Abercrombie & Fitch (advertising practices) and Hollister (owned by A&F).

We are lucky to have a farmers market here locally twice a week almost year round (there are some weekends where they don't have it because of festivals or rarely for bad weather) so we get what we can there. However sometimes we don't have a choice and have to get our produce at the commissary (Oh how I wish I could boycot the commissary but we'd go broke even for as much as they overcharge) because the exchange rate gets bad or its toward the end of the month and we don't have any more/extra euro. I've stopped buying harsh chemicals for the house (more of a health/green thing than an outright boycot of other products). As far as online shopping, I do use Amazon mostly because I detest paypal (long story) and most WAHM type stores (as much as I desperately WANT to support WAHM's, I cannot and will not use paypal) only take paypal. When I find ones that use the googlecart, I am all kinds of happy lol The biggest reason I use Amazon is because for me, its more convenient to purchase from them considering I have yet to make a single purchase that wasn't from umpteen different catagories which would have ended up being from 6 different stores (which means more places that have my cc info).

There is more that I do and don't do... but I have a little one who needs my attention lol

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As far as online shopping, I do use Amazon mostly because I detest paypal (long story) and most WAHM type stores (as much as I desperately WANT to support WAHM's, I cannot and will not use paypal) only take paypal.
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I will not buy anything from Proctor and Gamble or Unilever for their horrific animal testing practices. They pretty much own everything but I will not gibe them any business.

I do not shop at walmart or buy anything from nestle.

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I loved the local book stores but they are all gone now with competing B&N and Borders. I buy most of my books from Amazon.com now. Anything evil there? I buy LOTS of books - I'm a librarian/bibliophile.

I stopped buying from Amazon a couple of years ago because they carried dogfighting videos and cockfighting magazines. The Humane Society sued them two years ago over the issue and they recently settled. Amazon no longer carries the materials, but not by choice. Here's more info: http://www.humanesociety.org/issues/...on_110909.html

Although to be honest even before this I didn't like Amazon because they aren't really passionate about books. I feel like they see books as just one more money-maker... they don't really value reading like a traditional bookstore.

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I also highly recommend reading Confessions of An Ecosinner. I finally understand 'Globalisation' after reading that book :{. I will try much harder 2 buy Organic / FT cotton clothes & sugar from sugarbeet in future, for instance.

I just don't buy that much stuff, I think. That said, 4 what I do buy --
I shun Nestle, KFC & Primark (UK very cheap clothes chain), & try hard to avoid Starbucks (over-rated stink of coffee), McDonalds, Del Monte & Dole food items (banana wars). Am annoyed with General Mills for marketing Cheerios via Nestle outside the USA.

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I don't shop at Best Buy because of a ridiculously stupid event a friend had there. DH & I went to help our friend buy a pc monitor. When he got the monitor home that day it had several lines of pixels that weren't working. So, took the monitor back for an exchange. The manager wouldn't open the box and plug in a new monitor to test it without it being purchased first. Something about not being able to sell it after the box was open. So, our friend does buy the replacement monitor. They test it and it has the same problem. Fast forward to 9 monitors being purchased and tested that day all with the same problem. There was a huge stack of monitors blocking the doors. Each of which gets taped back up and put on the shelf to be sold to someone else. ERGGG That manager was so full of crap. Yes, I'm still hot about it nearly 10 years later. My boycotting them has absolutely no impact except making me feel better. DH does shop there though and lucky for bestbuy, because he is always needing some new pc thing. I go with him and rehash the story each time as we walk in and then start complaining about 5 min later. I guess you could say I turn into a 13y.o brat when we go there. Boy, my dh must love me for putting up my crap........

Also, I don't buy food with hfcs. The corn refiners ads make me ill. My goal is to produce as much of my own veggies as possible. I still have a few jars of home canned tomatoes from last season.
lol, you sound like me that made me lol.

ON BOYCOTTING I DO
BURTS BEES
WALMART PHARMACY- I have tricare and one day I was in there in line trying to get my son some cream which takes a whole five seconds for them to grab and they told me no they were closing 5 min early and wouldnt do it WTFFFFF! So I said oh really ?you are making a killing off of tricare and you wont take 5 second to give me this sh__ I'll go elsewhere. I went down the street to carrs (safeway in alaska) it took them 5 seconds give or take a few and I was done.
I am also considering mostly boycotting walmart for obvious reasons that have already been stated but alsp because an employee there a male who obviously had a serious problem refused to let a lady go in the bathroom the other day because he needed to clean it. now how is letting someone use it interfering with his job (which he is going to get to do 2 minutes later anyway) when he's the one who chose the busiest time of the evening to do it? He was rude too and thats what I had the most beef about. what if that lady would have had bladder problems? horrible employees will make me stop shopping there and I may even get you fired if the offense warrants it. If you dont like dealing with people get out of customer service jobs because there are plenty of jobless people who would love to have it.

Also I boycott olan mills photo studio...because they were horrible to my 5 kids in a photoshoot and to me. the one lady barked orders at my kids and the other two just sat on their behinds and I did all the work. where's my paycheck? My MIL paid for the pics in advanced for us and I took the kids. So I didnt even pay for them and I'll boycott them. I am also going to complain about how 3 employees just sat there and treated my 5 small kids and myself horribly and didnt help at all get my kids into positions or anything. You know gosh forbid they have to do their JOB! UGGGH lol

Sorry to rant but I can think of more just let me stew it over for a while LOL LOL

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I live in NZ, so Walmart doesn't exist here, but there's still plenty to boycott.

Nestle, obviously. Dick Smith Electronics, a chain store at which I received absolutely appalling service from a really rude manager. Pumpkin Patch... a kids' clothing store. It used to sell clothes that were made in NZ and 100% cotton, but now it's all MIC and synthetic. I can live with synthetic but was pretty disgusted to hear about the MIC thing. It's not terribly logical perhaps, because they do say it right there on the labels - but it seems like they still market themselves as made-in-NZ and everyone I talk to is surprised to hear the clothes aren't local. So it seems sneaky to me. It's a pesk because the clothes are actually pretty and well made, but I can sometimes get them second-hand.

In fact, I'm more or less boycotting the fashion industry in general. It's not a sacrifice - I never really bought clothes for the fun of it anyway, and I'm just so disillusioned about mass-produced soulless clothes that are badly-made, non-customisable, don't fit and were almost certainly produced in a sweatshop. I'm learning to sew. And my city's got a few pretty decent second-hand clothing stores now.

I do try to avoid MIC in general, but I'm not terribly consistent about it. (Example: the "learning to sew to avoid the evil fashion industry" line sounds great, only I bought fabric the other day and noticed halfway through purchasing that it was MIC. Even if I'd noticed earlier, I still would have bought it - not everything can be reconned from vintage thrift store sheets, even if you're into the vintage thrift store sheet look, you know? Anyone know any fabric manufacturers with decent labour practices?)

It would be too strong a word to say I "boycott" diamonds, but I don't buy 'em. I don't fancy them anyway.

I can't do non-free-range eggs any more.

I have a friend who boycotts halal meat because she says the killing process is more painful.gory/cruel than the regular bolt-in-the-head method. Anyone know about this? NZ is pretty OK with meat, comparatively - the beef and lamb is all grass-fed and seems pretty contented chewing in the pastures when you drive by - there are still battery farms for chickens, though. I'd have a much harder time eating meat from a grain-fed/Michael Pollan-described environment.

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I removed a few posts from this thread. Please remember that this is not for debate about the companies that people don't shop at. If there is information that clarifies something about a company that is being boycotted, the information is okay - as long as it is not presented with an editorial comment. I have left the info about American Girl for that reason.
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I also buy BP gas because they offer paid maternity leave (better than Texaco, Exxon, etc. and their human rights/environmental evils). I try to support companies like these: http://abcnews.go.com/images/GMA/100%20Best%202005.pdf
Hate to tell you, but BP is owned by Disney. And of course, there's lots wrong with Disney. Mostly leading our kids into valuing unimportant things....

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Hate to tell you, but BP is owned by Disney.
Really? I couldn't find any verification of this. Do you have a link that shows this?
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My husband works for BP (an excellent company) and they are definitely NOT owned by Disney. That's ridiculous. And if you are looking for any more reasons to boycott Wal-Mart, check out this story that came out in the national news a couple days ago:

http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/beaut...-goods-562909/

When in doubt, buy American.
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This is a great thread!!! I'm super bummed about Burt's Bees, I love that stuff.

I avoid the following:
- Nestle (for obvious reasons)
- Walmart
- Babies R Us (mostly for the reasons posted in post #3 of this thread)
- essentially all major clothing stores because their clothing is made in sweatshops (though I do buy their stuff secondhand... is that bad?)
- The Body Shop - this is a new one - because they buy palm oil for their products from a company called Daabon, which has been responsible for the forcible displacement of over a hundred Colombian farmers from their land in order to grow palm oil plantations - replacing subsistence farming with environmentally unfriendly monoculture. I have a friend who is working in the community affected by the displacement, and he is leading the charge on the Body Shop boycott. More info on http://www.cpt.org.

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Anyone know any fabric manufacturers with decent labour practices?)
A quick Google search pulled up these two: http://www.fairfabric.org/ and http://www.fabricandart.com/.

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Hate to tell you, but BP is owned by Disney. And of course, there's lots wrong with Disney. Mostly leading our kids into valuing unimportant things....
I'm going to be the second to say this is absolutely not true.

I worked there for 2 years and my best friend still does. They have excellent benefits, and are consistently voted as one of the best companies for working mothers. They really bend over backwards to help their employees, from what I have seen/heard/experienced.

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- essentially all major clothing stores because their clothing is made in sweatshops (though I do buy their stuff secondhand... is that bad?)
There's one school of thought that says buying obviously branded clothing (with visible logos, say) contributes to them problem by making the brand more visible and thus fuelling demand for it... and of course, most people won't buy the clothes secondhand. So if you're worried someone might see you in a Nike T-shirt and go "Wow, she looks AMAZING, I MUST HAVE that shirt!" and run off and buy one, you probably shouldn't wear a Nike T-shirt. Personally I don't like obviously logoed clothes anyway, so my second-hand clothes don't advertise where they're from. I mean, people can't usually pick a Cue top just by looking... can they? I can't. And if anybody asks where I got my shirt, I tend to say "Er, from the op shop". So no fuelling rampant consumerism there.

Anyway, it's totally not something I worry about. Nor do I worry that someone might admire the cubit zirconia in my engagement ring and dash off to buy a blood diamond. I know some people for whom that is an ethical dilemma, but personally... I can sleep at nights, y'know?

Comtessa: Thanks for the link to that silk site. Lovely stuff! I just found a second-hand store in town that sells fabric, and pretty decent stuff too.

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I live in Texas and see a lot of this. I, too, am turned off by restaurants and physicians feeling the need to post religious fish symbols next to their business signs. It seems to scream, "We are good, Christian people. Give us your business!" Since when has being a Christian or not being a Christian had anything to do with how food tastes or how good a pediatrician is at his/her job? : If I ever open up an interior design business, I'm going to put a big rainbow next to my sign because everyone knows that we gays are the creative types.
Umm, I'm not sure you aren't wrong about that. For example, I tend to patronize Catholic doctors because they don't give me flack for my immunization choices (religious exemption). It's MUCH easier for me to have a doctor who right off the bat isn't arguing with me about which shots and when, KWIM? We also practice NFP and it's easier to deal with a doctor or midwife who already knows what it is instead of one who has to look it up or recall from medical school. For me, it's easier to reflect my lifestyle AND my religion.

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Now I won't buy at any store that has a local alternative. For example I use the local lumber yard, NOT home depot.
Yes, this. The county I live in has a 15% unemployment rate (nearly 28% in the county seat!!!), skyrocketing foreclosures and our relief and charities are maxxed out. If I can shop somewhere that brings in local jobs, I do. Even if it costs me a bit more.

I also try to buy things made in the USA. I check labels and prefer that. Maybe it's because I live in a state wrecked by the loss of manufacturing jobs, but I know how devastating it is to a community when there are no jobs to be had.

I also am trying to boycott anything on Life Decisions International's planned parenthood boycott list. Reading through it, I realize how much of my money goes to groups that fund planned parenthood, and given of what I know about them on the national and international stage, plus what I know about them personally and from our local clinic, there's no way I want to support them. Horrific things have been done to girls right here in my area based on PP's advice.
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I live in Texas and see a lot of this. I, too, am turned off by restaurants and physicians feeling the need to post religious fish symbols next to their business signs. It seems to scream, "We are good, Christian people. Give us your business!" Since when has being a Christian or not being a Christian had anything to do with how food tastes or how good a pediatrician is at his/her job? : If I ever open up an interior design business, I'm going to put a big rainbow next to my sign because everyone knows that we gays are the creative types.
Actually, this is very common in Key West. Many local businesses fly the rainbow flag to let people know they are gay friendly or gay owned. (I'm not sure if gay owned is even a real phrase)

On the other side, Human Rights Campaign (HRC.org) published a book that has an equality index in it. They rate companies in a variety of areas; policies, benefits, etc. You can see how many companies rate. If all things were equal, I go to the one with the higher rating.
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Too many recalls won't buy their products any longer. Too expensive too.
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Not buying products with a bunch of unnecessary added toxic crap: not cleaning products, not food, not even diapers. This has dramatically increased my food budget. But we eat healthier, feel heatlhier - and I have lost a little bit of weight It helps my family and my earth - and hopefully the future generation. My soapbox: we need to stop polluting our world. We're messing it up. And killing ourselves.

Also, doing my best not to buy gmos. I don't think it is a good idea to be messing around with mother nature AND giving it to an unsuspecting world population without any real testing. That is one of those things that it will suck to look back on and see oops that was a bad idea. Prove something is safe before you sell it. I am not going to use my life to prove it unsafe.
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I'm tending to focus on boycotting organizations and businesses that support political causes and issues I oppose.
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Boycotting for me has taken a bit of a different turn, but I have done it this way. I graduated as a chemical engineer and had employment opportunities at many big oil companies, pharmaceutical companies, environmental firms (where I thought I'd go), and government environmental agencies (EPA).

1. I refused jobs at the big oil companies because I didn't want to be part of the organization that was supporting the governments who subjugate millions of human beings.
2. I couldn't work in big pharma because I couldn't work for companies who were deliberately poisoning billions of children.
3. I really thought I'd work at an environmental firm, but it turned out they were mostly into figuring out ways to get around adhering to protection regulations. There's a regulation against putting sulfur gas into the air, so lets react it into a solid and put it in the ground water. Conscience couldn't deal with that either.
4. EPA, well really thought I'd do well here, but it turns out they are mostly just trying to appease particular groups who fund the political parties who vote the EPA more funds. This was very disappointing and I could have handled it, except that they were making a lot of regulations that were meaningless and some that were even harmful.

Choosing to work for companies that we support the practices of is important in making sure we are helping to create the world we want to live in.
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no walmart, ever, for so many many reasons.
victoria's secret uses prison labor (even if i could afford it!)
starbucks is notorious for union busting, plus it just feels.so.wrong. they're like the exploiters of coffee pornography.
i try really hard not to buy new clothing. none of it from major stores is ever "clean" and not from sweatshops in some way or another.
we try to buy local produce, etc, and we are very diy for everything else (beer, meat, entertainment) and there was a looong period of time where we were dumpstering fools but what are you gonna do?
it IS really hard, especially when you're trying to buy ethical natural products and the big corporations keep buying out the small ones, it's nearly impossible to keep track.
this is pretty awesome
as is this article.
If you're interested in the prison labor issue and how that ties into the clothing & products we buy, this is an excellent resource.
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I guess we don't boycott but choose to support more locally owned business. We are very lucky in the area that we live in that we can find most everything sold or produced locally. Now with that being said I do occasionally go to the big box store but that is after I have tried the little guy first. I really don't like shopping at the bigger chain stores because I feel like they have lost the customer service. We shop at a local, family run grocery store because they have better produce and meats and they seem to care. That is the biggest thing that is important to us.

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I won't shop at Bath and Body Works because they fired a store manager based on the fact that she practices Wicca. This case is still in litigation and I MIGHT start shopping there again if the settlement includes an apology to the employee and some sort of sensitivity training for District Managers.
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I really don't have any grandiose reasons for boycotting certain businesses. I do understand that if I have a negative experience at a business, it's usually caused by a particular employee, so I still try to give the business itself the benefit of the doubt in most cases.

However, I refuse to buy things at businesses that do not accept credit cards. There's a local (popular) burger joint here called Arctic Roadrunner that takes cash only. I swear they're probably the only business in town that accepts cash only. I never carry cash with me and credit cards have become so mainstream and convenient, I refuse to inconvenience myself by running to the bank to get cash for lunch just because they want to save a buck or two on credit card usage fees.

I could understand if the business is in a remote village somewhere, but that place is smack dab in the middle of a city of 280,000 people. Even little rinky-dink mom and pop shops or tiny booth stores take credit cards. I think the Arctic Roadrunner owner is on some kind of cash hoarding trip. I'm happy to never eat there. Unless of course he starts taking credit cards, then I'll reconsider.
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I won't shop at one of the locally owned, small business natural food stores in my town BECAUSE:

having never used formula, and because i knew it would be short term, i felt like i needed to look into organic options. the MANager at one of the stores said to me, "have you ever even CONSIDERED breastfeeding?"
Wandering through this thread. Reminds me of why I won't shop at our locally-owned, small business natural food store here. I was looking for a place to buy dd some less-toxic nail polish when she was 3 1/2 or so, since she was really wanting to paint her nails. I asked the owner if she carried any. She gave me a giant lecture on how I was leading my child into the evil world of perverted body image. I went to Whole Foods instead and have only gone in there once or twice in desperation after that, and only when said owner isn't there. Grrrr.

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I refuse to buy things at businesses that do not accept credit cards.
I've been boycotting credit card companies since 2001.

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