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Old 02-18-2004, 11:43 PM
 
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I guess I just don't understand how the current stuff in San Francisco could affect the Massachusetts stuff.
I took the article to suggest not that it would adversely affect MA, but the rest of the country. Instead of an orderly, law driven effort the first memorable "gay marraiges" would instead be considered civil disobediance by more mainstream people. And for many, civil disobediance seems to equal bad/scary/ruination of society.

I can see the arguement, but I am not going to be the one to stand and say, "Hey don't get married, wait til MA in May." I'm just not, there is too much joy, too much hope, too much belief in a real reform to overlook this as merely a road bump, IMO

 

 

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Old 02-18-2004, 11:55 PM - Thread Starter
 
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Honestly, sounds like a pissing contest because some in Mass may be mad that they aren't the center of the gay marriage issue for a few moments :
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:LOL
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Arduinna---

I have to agree because in all honesty, I just don't see anyone saying, "Hmmm I was really thinking about being supportive towards gay marraige but now that those people in SF went and actually got married, nope, I'm going back to being a biggot." Yeah, obvious proof that gay marraige leads to law breaking (hello circular argument!)

 

 

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Honestly, sounds like a pissing contest because some in Mass may be mad that they aren't the center of the gay marriage issue for a few moments :
even conceding that...think about what you said for a second...different parts of the country competing to institute gay marriage...



it's aaaaall good!
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You guys are too funny,

and Dado excellent point!!!
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Let me first say that it's awesome!!!

but, I'm reminded of that nutcase in Alabama with the unconstitutional 10 comandments...

wouldn't it better advance democracy and the will of the people to change the states constitution? and because i'm not to bright about these matters, is it something that was voted into the constitution?


just confused as to what's up!
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but we need a case to take to the supreme court to challenge that states defense of marriage act. And this might just offer the opportunity.
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a ha...
thanks
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What is the situation with gay marriage in Canada?
I seem to recall hearing that same-sex marriage has been on the books for a couple of months now.
Cheers to all of those people who are finally able to make a public and legal commitment to the one they love.
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Has anyone seen "Iron Jawed Angels" on HBO this month? It's about Suffrage but it makes the point that sometimes the moderates in a movement, no matter how much they decry their extremist counterparts, often owe their final push over the finish line to them. Suffrage took over 60 years. Anyone want to wait that long on this one?
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Old 02-19-2004, 02:21 AM - Thread Starter
 
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I haven't watched it yet, but I completely agree. I for one am NOT willing to wait around for the moderates to get around to doing anything.
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Watching the lines in SF & the people *getting married* has reminded me of the fall of the Berlin Wall. It just happened. People just getting together & doing it. I am very happy for what will happen in Mass. too.

if you want to do something to support, check this out:
www.millionformarriage.org to sign a petition.
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And if you just want to look at something silly:

http://www.sfgate.com/columnists/fiore/

A great little animated piece on "the gay agenda". Funny
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Just to add a little personal perspective to this...My partner and I were married on Monday morning after sitting in the rain all night. I wrote out the whole story but here is how I ended it....

I know that there are already fights against it and it may be overturned and voided, but they will never take this day away from us. This is a day that we were part of the struggle, a part of history. And they cannot ever take the feeling of community, love and commitment that every single one of us experienced. And finally, they can’t take the feeling I had while I looked into Laura’s eyes when he said, “I now pronounce you Partners for Life”
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Just to add a little personal perspective to this...My partner and I were married on Monday morning after sitting in the rain all night. I wrote out the whole story but here is how I ended it....

I know that there are already fights against it and it may be overturned and voided, but they will never take this day away from us. This is a day that we were part of the struggle, a part of history. And they cannot ever take the feeling of community, love and commitment that every single one of us experienced. And finally, they can’t take the feeling I had while I looked into Laura’s eyes when he said, “I now pronounce you Partners for Life”
Wow. I got tears in my eyes and goosebumps from reading that.

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Just to add a little personal perspective to this...My partner and I were married on Monday morning after sitting in the rain all night. I wrote out the whole story but here is how I ended it....

I know that there are already fights against it and it may be overturned and voided, but they will never take this day away from us. This is a day that we were part of the struggle, a part of history. And they cannot ever take the feeling of community, love and commitment that every single one of us experienced. And finally, they can’t take the feeling I had while I looked into Laura’s eyes when he said, “I now pronounce you Partners for Life”
That is sooo wonderful! Congradulations!

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Contrats, Sophie. I keep wondering if some of my old friends in the Bay Area were there too. You are part of history...I'm a tad jealous.

Mama to DD September 2001 and DD April 2011 *Winner for most typos* eat.gif
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Thank you for sharing your story, that is so beautiful!!!
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All blessings of the Goddess on you 2! How wonderful.

Even if you do not get legal protection any time soon, you are married.

Like in the movie Cold Mountain, sometimes we have to marry ourselves without institutional approval.

I marry you. I marry you. I marry you.

Powerful for gay marriages soon!

(I have a bisexual dd.)
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Gotta stop opening this thread. I'm running out of tissue.

Congratulations and best wishes to you and your beloved Amazlilith!
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