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Anyone know when we will know for sure one way or the other?
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I think they are still in a two hour long debate. I bet it will be after Midnight before there is a vote.

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I only posted that because I just ate popcorn.
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I have to say that it's times like now that I'm glad I'm not in front of a TV - I can only imagine the endless news cycles going on right now, I just get to refresh CNN.com

and I'll : along with you all

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just waiting. Nancy Pelosi is speaking now.
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They approved the rules of debate, that is all.
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it passed!
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YAY

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Where is the text of the bill that actually passed? It was so confusing what *exactly* was even being pushed at this point

 

 

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Just wanted to post a reminder to stay within the rules of the N&CE forum on this topic. Specifically:

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We welcome most topics of News & Current Events. However, we do not wish to host political debate or political/celebrity gossip or speculation.

Incidental and occasional reference to politics is understandable. However, politics should not be the focus of the thread. Political or partisan topics will be removed at moderator discretion. If members continue to post in a political or divisive manner, we reserve the right to restrict their participation.
Lets keep the focus on heath care & away from any partisan bickering or posturing.

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Where is the text of the bill that actually passed? It was so confusing what *exactly* was even being pushed at this point
yep, now that it has passed, my uterus has some big questions. like how long is it okay for maternity care to excluded from my plan.
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oh yeah yet another mandate that we have to spend money

I can't wait till November, this is going to be FUN!
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yep, now that it has passed, my uterus has some big questions. like how long is it okay for maternity care to excluded from my plan.
considering that we will be paying for it for 3 years before anything happens, don't hold your breath.
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Just to be clear, Rush retracted right? he'll be staying here anyway.
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huh? I have no idea what you are talking about.
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huh? I have no idea what you are talking about.
Rush Limbaugh said he would move to Costa Rica if Heath Care passed.

The real confusion? Why Costa Rica:
"Socialized" heath care
New president pushing carbon neutrality


 

 

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Oh, I don't follow Limbaugh LOL so I hadn't heard that.
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The actual text of the bill is over 2000 pages.

Someone want to read it and let me know what it means for me?
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The actual text of the bill is over 2000 pages.

Someone want to read it and let me know what it means for me?
What I want to know is how many that voted on it ( either way ) actually read it.
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What I want to know is how many that voted on it ( either way ) actually read it.
That is a good question. I know many were actually stating a lot of incorrect information.


I did write to my Congressmen regarding the bill but they don't tend to vote the way I ask them to.

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I am very interested in what it all will mean.

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I am very interested in what it all will mean.
Yes, after a bill is passed is when they start fine tuning it. We might not end up with precisely the same thing that passed today.

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Here is what the National Partnership for Women and Families claims this means for me. This is obviously a special interest group, and I'm not calling their report unbiased (nor am I looking for an abortion debate). So, is "Employers will be required to provide a reasonable break time and place for nursing mothers to breast feed." really true?!?

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I don't know much about what the bill actually says; however, one major issue I have with it (as it is being reported by the media) is that it requires people to have insurance. What if someone doesn't want insurance? They get fined for it, I think that's stoopid.

Also, I think the bill will fine employers who don't offer insurance to their employees. If they don't then they get fined. Unless the fine is larger than the amount the employer would have to pay for group insurance, then I think many employers will just opt to pay the fine.

Someone let me know if my facts are off.
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I found this article interesting:

The Top 10 Immediate Benefits You'll Get When Health Care Passes

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Prohibit pre-existing condition exclusions for children in all new plans;

Provide immediate access to insurance for uninsured Americans who are uninsured because of a pre-existing condition through a temporary high-risk pool;

Prohibit dropping people from coverage when they get sick in all individual plans;

Eliminate lifetime limits and restrictive annual limits on benefits in all plans;

Require premium rebates to enrollees from insurers with high administrative expenditures and require public disclosure of the percent of premiums applied to overhead costs.
I do wonder what #3 (On the quoted portion) will mean in reality. I the concept of the last one listed.

 

 

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Thanks, TiredX2.

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I don't know much about what the bill actually says; however, one major issue I have with it (as it is being reported by the media) is that it requires people to have insurance. What if someone doesn't want insurance? They get fined for it, I think that's stoopid.

Also, I think the bill will fine employers who don't offer insurance to their employees. If they don't then they get fined. Unless the fine is larger than the amount the employer would have to pay for group insurance, then I think many employers will just opt to pay the fine.

Someone let me know if my facts are off.
I also wonder about this. I don't believe it dictates what level of coverage you have, so you could still just have catastrophic, which isn't a bad thing. I don't know the particulars though, so I don't know what exactly this will really pan out to be, you know?


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I don't know much about what the bill actually says; however, one major issue I have with it (as it is being reported by the media) is that it requires people to have insurance. What if someone doesn't want insurance? They get fined for it, I think that's stoopid.
That is one of my biggest complaints too.
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Rush Limbaugh said he would move to Costa Rica if Heath Care passed.

The real confusion? Why Costa Rica:
"Socialized" heath care
New president pushing carbon neutrality

Well maybe he wanted to go to the second worst socialized medicine in the world? Or he wanted to move to a country where they make even more absurd empty promises than in the states?

Ironically, it was probably the recent crack down on immigration policy for which they have been borrowing from US policy that made him change his mind. It's too much of a pain in the ass to bother any more.

I was under the impression that the intent of the intial bill was that it requires adults have insurance for their CHILDREN, but not themselves. IME the only time private insurance is worth a penny of its premiums is when it has to compete with a competent and high qulaity public health care system.

As far as I can tell this is hardly healthcare reform, it's just insurance reform.

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