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|Girls do not get themselves pregnant - very often, they have a boy's help!"|
|Originally posted by Greaseball
I'd also like to see them invent an artificial womb, or a way to transfer embryos into a surrogate mother.
|Originally posted by Potty Diva
sincee we can't afford to donate to charities outside of our taxes.
|Originally posted by Greaseball
Another thing that would help is if more (all) "fathers" paid child support. This could alleviate single-parent poverty and maybe even reduce the need for welfare payments.
Right now it's hard to go after a male parent-by-means-of-genetics when he doesn't pay. And if he skips a payment, it's not like the state makes it up to the mother in the meantime. That's what they should do - pay the mother anything she doesn't get from, you know, that guy, and then send the bill to him with a lot of interest fees and such tacked on. If he doesn't pay, it could come out of his taxes. He'd learn that it's much simpler to just pay the mother.
I'm sure this will not go over well, but I think child support payments should start while the woman is pregnant, since it is, after all, a child with real needs. He could pay for the extra food and a birth attendant of the woman's choice.
Men who don't pay support are often looked at with sympathy, while women who support their children with govt funds are seen as people who ought to be shot.
It would also help if mothers got half of the father's income. (If there is more than one mother, as is often the case with man-types, divide it among them.) I think that's what is needed to adequately support a child. My father made $15,000 a year and was only ordered to pay $25 a month for two kids. He sent $200 a month, which although not enough was at least a nice gesture. Men, unlike women, seem to have more of a choice in whether to have sexual intercourse or not, and they should suffer for their choices when they harm women.
|Originally posted by kama'aina mama
MNS.. can you link to those stats by any chance? Because I suspect that the 71% is still a far lower number than the 15%... and that there are far more children living in poverty because of non-paying dads than non-paying moms. If I am mistaken I would like to know. If I am right then I don't see that it is male bashing to discuss that. I know that you are correct when you say that some men are ordered to pay more than they make and that paying child support is a huge financial burden but I am not convinced that enough people of either gender put paying for their non-custodial children ahead of their own needs.
|71% of women DO NOT PAY and you do not see a nationwide DEADBEAT MOMS campaign. There are only about 15% of dads that do not pay ordered support.
|Census figures show only 57 percent of moms required to pay child support -- 385,000 women out of a total of 674,000 -- give up some or all of the money they owe.
That compares with 68 percent of dads who pay up, according to the figures.
|But more moms that don’t have the kids simply can’t afford to pay child support since they are poorer, said Geraldine Jensen, president of the Association for Children for Enforcement of Support. Studies show the average income for non-custodial moms is only $15,000 a year, whereas non-custodial dads average about $40,000 a year.|
|How is a male supposed to survive to pay his support?|