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Yeah he was in disguise in the book during the wedding. I'm pretty sure there was more use of polyjuice and the invisibility cloak in the book, but I understand why it was left out of the movie.


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We finally saw the movie tonight and I really loved it. I thought it was much more true to the book than the other movies. They did leave things out and change little things but that was to be expected. It was interesting to see more of the characters from the book like Bill Weasly and Mundungus Fletcher. The movie felt much more adult. I wish they hadn't done the whole "Harry and Hermione" naked together when Ron was trying to destroy the locket though. We'll have to fast forward through that one big time when I let the kids watch it when it comes out on DVD.


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Yeah, I agree the snogging naked looking part was a bit overboard.


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I get that it's a bit much for a 12 year old to see, but to me the naked Harry/Hermione thing was spot on. The horcrux plays on your fears and insecurities and I'm sure that that is exactly the kind of mental image the 17 year old Ron had in his mind at his weakest moments. It did startle me but that's because my mind didn't go there, I'm sure that Ron's had.

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 Here is one artist's take on the scene from the book. It's from 2008.  I think it fits as well, as it seems to me JKR added a few more grown-up, sexual touches to Deathly Hallows.  Sorry about the spacing in this post. Something weird is up. 

http://browse.deviantart.com/?qh=&section=&q=harry+and+hermione+deathly+hallows#/d18fd0m

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Yeah, it didn't really seem out of place, I guess, just a bit more than I was expecting and a bit much for me, lol. I think the same thing could have been achieved by a slow, meaningful kiss, but I'm sure pp is right that a 17 year old boy would've been devastated by that image of his girl and best bud, which is what the horcrux was meant to do.


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Anyone else noticed that the reviews from professional reviewers have tended to be that the movie was really boring and/or not good?  I'm yet to meet a person who loved the books to say the movie was bad.  Maybe it is b/c we know what's coming next? (I don't tend to agree with review people anyway, though.)


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Roger Ebert gives it 3 stars and seems to like it well enough.  He says this about reviewing a movie even if he's not a fanatic of the books:

 

"I make it a custom to avoid becoming expert on the endless characters and plot strands of series movies. Life is too short to become an authority on all of the movies about James Bond, "The Lord of the Rings" and so on. I'm sure students of Harry Potter will comprehend "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows" better than I was able to. They'll see a character and recall scenes from a movie made seven years ago. For me, its more about the immediate experience. The important thing is that the characters know what's happening. At least by the end, anyway."

 

And here's the whole review:

 

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20101116/REVIEWS/101119969

 

Unlike with the rest of the HP movies I haven't read any of the movie reviews.  Well, until Ebert's here, just now. 


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dh has only seen the movies with me and never read the books and through each one he asks if its harry who ends up with hermione or ron.  he always forgets cause she is always so harry crazy in the movies
 



 Harry only ends up with Ron in some fanfiction.  Bolt.gif



 

 

Only in some fanfiction.

 

The rest of it he ends up with ... Draco.  whistling.gif

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Dude, it's fanfic. I don't think psychological realism or hermeneutics are high on anyone's list. I hear there's every pairing from Nagini/Ron to Voldemort/Hannah Abbot out there - it just doesn't bear thinking about.

 

Also, I loathe and abominate the concept of fanfic to begin with, but does no-one else find the underage porn thing... sick and vile? Especially the Snape/Harry fanfic, which apparently is quite popular? I mean, at the END of the last book the kids are only 17. It's like... writing erotica about the Narnia kids or the freaking Bobbsey twins - and yes, I'm sure that's been done too, but still. Ew. These are KIDS, people. Fictional, but still.

 

i totally agree about the HP fanfic stuff.  it really grosses me out to read erotica based on would be 15 year olds at boarding school.  maybe if the whole series had been twilight or something, it wouldnt' care, but i hate hate hate that porn HP fanfic stuff. 

 

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IIRC, the last movie had a bazillion posts only a few days after it opened. what is going on?? only 70 responses??


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IIRC, the last movie had a bazillion posts only a few days after it opened. what is going on?? only 70 responses??



I think because this was only half a movie.  As good as it was, it really did feel (to me, anyway) like half a movie.  Because it was only half a book.

So we've only got half the responses.  LOL

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IIRC, the last movie had a bazillion posts only a few days after it opened. what is going on?? only 70 responses??



I think it's because AnnetteMarie is unable to post currently ;)

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Here is this:

 http://www.mothering.com/community/forum/thread/1283172/hey-mamas-i-m-home

 

And she now has a birth story up, linked at the end of the above thread.


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Oh, wow - no wonder she hasn't been posting! :( What a fiasco. Thanks for the link!


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loved it!! :) can't wait for part two.

 

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The movie seemed to whiz by! It's two and a half hours long I think, and I was surprised when it was over.

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Thing is... and bear in mind I'm Aspie and didn't really have any male friends until I was 16 or so... but is it normal for teenage opposite-sex friends to touch that much? It seems surprisingly mature for the average teen friend-couple to have that level of physical affection without romantic involvement. I've never been huggy even with my female friends, but I can certainly see why Ron was jealous of Harry - she was constantly hugging him and hanging off his arm and holding his hand and resting her head on his neck and so on and so on. It doesn't ring natural to me. Being comfortable with someone doesn't equate to being that touchy-feely, you know? And they've been at it for a few films now, when the teenagers were at an age a lot of kids would still be "Ew, boy germs!".



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I'm only 12 posts in, but I will catch up. I read all the books in like a month before this movie came out. And I watched all the movies again, multiple times smile.gif I've seen this one twice! I really thought Snape was bad a$$ and kinda awesome in the second scene where he bursts through the gates to the Malfoy manor. I love Luna's character in the books too and would always like to see more of her. I like Harry and Hermione's relationship - to me it is a wonderful friendship and I don't get any other vibes from it.

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Thing is... and bear in mind I'm Aspie and didn't really have any male friends until I was 16 or so... but is it normal for teenage opposite-sex friends to touch that much? It seems surprisingly mature for the average teen friend-couple to have that level of physical affection without romantic involvement. I've never been huggy even with my female friends, but I can certainly see why Ron was jealous of Harry - she was constantly hugging him and hanging off his arm and holding his hand and resting her head on his neck and so on and so on. It doesn't ring natural to me. Being comfortable with someone doesn't equate to being that touchy-feely, you know? And they've been at it for a few films now, when the teenagers were at an age a lot of kids would still be "Ew, boy germs!".



Okay - I've actually seen Deathly Hallows now (ds1 had a couple free hours in his schedule!!). I had a lot of male friends when I was younger, and none of the Harry/Hermione touching seems out of place to me at all. I can imagine touching my male friends that much, even without the pressures of being on the run, having a quest to save our entire civilization and feeling bad for him because he lost his parents. The amount of touching between H & H is all well within bounds, imo.


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This thing is annoying me. I had a fairly long post that was a reply to another post and all it posted was the quote of what I was responding to. Then when I tried to put a note in about that it said that there was nothing in the box to post. hopefully this will work.

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Does anybody know why I can't edit my posts? It shows up that it was edited, but then the edited text is not there.

 

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One thing to keep in mind is that these are NOT normal teenagers. They've spent most of the past 6 years with their lives in danger. And for the most part the only thing they could really count on was each other. It seemed a little life-affirming to me. Like "yes we are still alive and still in one piece." Also I can see how it would be easier for Hermione to be touchy-feely with Harry than with Ron. with Harry there is no subtext, she can hug him, lean on him, whatever, without it being taken as something else. Hugging a guy that you're in love with but not actually dating can be weird. Hugging a guy friend who you pretty much consider to be like a brother, not so much. Harry is safe in a way that Ron is NOT. Kind of like the end of the second movie when Hermione ran up and hugged Harry and then shook Ron's hand. One thing about seeing it through a child's eyes: when I watched it with my 5y.o. nephew he looked at me and asked if Hermione marries Ron. He knew that hugging your friends is okay, but not hugging someone you LIKE.

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Hey y'all hola.gif. I just saw HP 7 in the theatre last night. I'm late to the game, but it came to our local $4 theatre for one week and a friend and I took a late night and went. I rarely go see movies w/o the kids, but wasn't going to take them to this. They have seen the first two and DH is reading them the 3rd book so we'll probably watch that one, but I don't know if we'll go beyond that. Dd1 just got into HP this year at school (which I was thrilled with because it was the first book she really enjoyed reading on her own). She's a very sensitive soul, though, so I felt like I needed to read ahead to know what she was getting into and make recommendations and well, wouldn't you know it, I got completely sucked in and read all 7 books in about a month. I felt like this might be the only chance I would have to see a HP movie on the big screen.

 

As far as the movie, I liked it. It was a little weird for me because I've seen the first two movies with the kids and I've read all the books, but I haven't seen the movies in between. It was hard to see it end where it did since I knew the rest of the story, but it seemed to me the kind of movie where you really needed to know what was going on in the earlier movies/books to understand much of it. I felt like they left out a lot of stuff and was sorry they didn't make room for another smidge of Snape (although I guess he's really not in the first half that much). I did enjoy it, though.

 

I wish they could have included everything, but then it would be, what, 15 hrs long? Probably have to be a TV series then, but _that_ would have been interesting...


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In my opinion you aren't particularly missing anything, having missed the rest of the movies. There was a time when I would have been horrified, and would have commanded you to rectify this issue immediately. :-D While I still love going to the HP movies they have never done the series justice. Deathly Hallows was an improvement. Or maybe my expectations are finally low enough.

A lot of people would like to see a mini series! I know I would! Cut way back on the giant special effects. Spend 4 or 5 hours on each book. Beef up character development. Include SPEW. Include both Colin and Dennis Creevey.

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My kids were really mad that Peeves was left out of the first two movies! I think SPEW was pretty important, but I guess it wasn't my decision to make, huh? I will eventually get around to seeing the other movies, but probably not until the kids are older. I think they just might be too intense for them. They're pretty sensitive.

 

Our way so far has been for dd1 to read the books first (she's on #4) and then we read them again out loud with dd2. Dd2's a pretty good reader for a first grader, but these are a little bit above her comfort level. She's making her way through #1 now, but it's slow going. After we've read them out loud then we see the movie. I'm not sure we'll read 4 out loud. I thought that opening scene with the old gardener in the Riddle house and then end scene with Voldemort in the cemetery were just a little much for my little one. Number 4 is going  a lot slower for dd1, too. She's not a speed reader, but really got into the first ones. Four is long, though. She's certainly not read a book that long before. I told her if it got scary she could put it down. So she might be 13 before she finishes it and we move on to the next step. It may be many, many years before I see the movies for 4, 5, & 6. I could sneak and watch them while they're asleep, but I don't see myself doing that. I think I will see 7 part 2 in the theatre this summer, though. Kinda hafta finish that out. I was pleased with the kids' acting in 7, really. I watched a little bit of 1 or 2 one Christmas when it was on TV before the kids were into it and I really thought the kids were not very great, but seeing it again recently with my kids soooooooo excited about it I thought they did fine and were cute. Funny how it works like that.

 

We have also embarked on the audio books in the car for 1 & 2 and my girls really like those.


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